The REAL Insight Of The “PENTATONIC BOX DEBATE” Is A WORTHY Adventure.
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- All the videos you need are linked below! Is it Pentatonic Box Numbers or Pentatonic Caged Chords? They both exist, and even though they are the same thing, knowing how to use the differences makes you a better guitarist. Hope you enjoy!
CAGED Pentatonics Videos. This will help with the relationship between chord shapes and their pentatonic.
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I learned what I think is an easier method for pentatonics, based on what string the root is on. Using A on the sixth string (box one) for example. If you want a minor pentatonic sound, play the box one form starting with your index finger on the sixth string A. For a major pentatonic sound, use the same box one form starting with your pinky finger on the sixth string A.
To move up the neck in tone, the A is now on the fourth string (box two I believe). Simply do the same thing. For a minor pentatonic sound, start with your index finger on the fourth string A. For a major pentatonic sound, start with your pinky finger on the fourth string A. Use the same box form. You can use the same method moving up the neck for the 2,5 and 3 strings. You don’t have to think back and forth from what box am I in, and what string is the root note on.
Anyway, just an idea.
Cool stuff. Do you still play? Also, dig on this, the major scale is just and only groups of 4 notes. Go figure. Look at a diagram- you will never see it the same way again I bet. WWWH WWWH and that's it. W(Do)W(re)W(Mi)H(Fa) W(So) W(La) W(Ti)H(Do) Every string horizontal and vertical you can see that pattern. Easy to hear if you drill it up and down on a single string like the thin E string. Key of C is easy too- no sharps or flats.
I enjoy that you don't mind recovering older material to reiterate for the new generation of questions and viewers. I have been on a stitch binge and this was a great reset for me as I have almost tried to learn to much too soon from too many CZcams teachers. Your frameworks and explanations help lessen the white noise, thanks.
Everything you teach intrigues me. You Rock Groovy One!. Enjoy your vacation.
This was super helpful. As a beginner I’ve found CAGED useful for locating root positions and chord shapes, This video helped me to realize that in order to target chord tones, example, the minor third I just go up one and a half steps from the root.
Thanks for this lesson, feels really relevant to where I've been at in the learning process and I'm gonna practice it.
I really love the tapestry behind you!
Great lesson, Ian, thanks so much! And I understand completely why your gaze was drawn out the window to admire the view. I’ve been to most states and each one has so much to offer, but I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Vermont. There is something truly all its own there. Magic.
Thankyou so much for all this information about guitar, im 5months in playing accoustic guitar and I feel like I need to learn more about why chords sound good together other than just learning my favourite songs and progessing abit too slowly for my liking. You mentioned once that you were also in a similar position and that's why you are giving people such great knowledge you have gained on your own journey through guitar/music.
Hey Stitch. I like it. It makes sense . Clear. Fun . Thanks so much
The light 💡 just come on. Thank you stitch Man I appreciate your lessons and work you do.
Great explanation. I'll check out those other 2 videos too
Awesome information. Cleared up alot.
Another fantastic video , thank you
Mainly I use the CAGED system. However, this video opened my eyes to the importance of the number system. Very good explanation.
thank you for this explanation. i have been struggling with these 2 approaches
Thank you for this video! A few more pieces of the puzzle fell in to place for me. I love everything about this video except that you didn't peel the film off the plastic plate on the headstock. Maybe a follow up video of you peeling it off? Regardless thank you for your lessons. I've learned most the from your lessons. Thanks!
Stich! Hope you've been enjoying Vermont, man. Was great to meet you the other day. Be well and thanks for all the videos!
Great lesson!
Im closer to understanding this than ever before.Thank you.Played by the seat of my pants for 56 years by feel not understanding.This will be a great help.Thank you very much.
As always, Bravo!
Great lesson Ian Enjoy your trip Dermot
This exactly what I'm studying and trying to master to the point of unconsciousness, and you just made it a hell of a lot easier! Thank you. If you make it to Boston on your road trip, let's have a beer Haha
Great stuff
I am forever grateful to have found you. You continue to show me connections that I didn't know existed.
You called box one "the G shape, the Em shape." Do you think of each shape as both the major and its relative minor? Is the C shape also the Am shape, or D is Bm?
Hey stich! Never been this early to a video of yours. Thought I'd say hey
Thank you 😍😍😍
He definitely is the best teacher on the internet! He has clarified soooo much for me that others couldn’t! Thank you🙏🙏
Great lesson Mr. Stich. I had just recently somehow memorized each gaged chord with it corresponding pentatonic box number. Not sure if that's the best way but worked for me.
Ohhhhh Love the background Ian,
Very informative
Great Lesson Ian !
Many thanks!
Ohhh VT...i go gold mining up there, where abouts are you...im in NY...your in my area...i feel the good vibes!!!
To me, the title is Phrygian pentatonic. It really helps me to think of the fretboard in modes.
The answer to the question, “Which mindset is right” is YES. And Stich explained why that is very well.
I understand them both. Prefer the form numbers, though. Because the C shape is also the Am shape, for example.
Near the middle of the lesson: Did you play the form 1, then the form 4, then the form 5, all from the same neck position, for an ADE 145 progression? (the A root on the fat-E 5th fret in that example)
I am a bass player just starting to play guitar. I learned all the Modes and pentatonics a long time ago and in my mind all my numbers are based off the Nashville Number system. 1 is always Major Ionian mode. I learned the pentatonic shapes based on the modes.
1. Ionian - form 2
2. Dorian - form 3
3. Phrygian - form 4
4. Lydian - x
5. Mixolydian - form 5
6. Aeolian - form 1
7. Locrian - x
Since Lydian and Locrian notes aren't used in the pentatonic, there is no corresponding shape. But, multiple pentatonic forms can be played over other diatonic modes.
Ionian pentatonic can be played over Ionian, Lydian, and Mixolydian.
Dorian pentatonic can be played over Dorian, Aeolian, and Mixolydian. etc...
I have watched several videos about the CAGED system and it just seems confusing to me. I have a decent grasp of the diatonic modes and can play any arpeggio in any inversion all over the bass, but when I pick up a guitar, I am really lost. That minor 3rd between the G and B string really messes me up.
Hey man. Andrew from Idlewild: A Celebration Of The Allman Brothers Band. Thanks for the High E string! Lol . Bobby, our other guitar player told me he’s watched a lot of your videos. Hope to see you again. I’ll bring some strings for you. Take care!
You guys were amazing. Glad to help out. I’ll hold you to bringing me my strings back😂. Rock on
Thanks
Enjoy Vermont! What part. Watching from Florida!
Man how will be perfect to see also chord tabb frett in video
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Nice background
If you keep this up I am going to get smart!
Hi Ian? Great video as always! Please, could you make a video explaining 1) what chord types are played in each genre (blues, blues rock, rock, jazz, funk, etc.)?, 2) which of these chord types could be played as an inversion?, and 3) what substitutions could be played to replace each of these chord types? Cheers, John :-)
This is a start…. czcams.com/video/QGlFuc1izE0/video.html
And this…
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You can play any chord as an inversion any time
Hi Ian! Thank you very much for your answer! What about a video about substitutions that can be played to replace each of the chord types used in each genre (blues, blues rock, rock, jazz, funk, etc.)?
Maybe this helps but if you think of form 1 with root on E than think of it as edcag. If your a form 4 with root on E than caged. Your roots follow the letters either way
Ian at 10:58, you call out the second run of 1,4,5. But are you actually playing 1,3,5? 5th fret G string. Should this be 7th fret? Just making sure I follow and by the way I love your videos.
Yes!!! Sorry I was going fast… the “4” is on the 7th fret G
@@StichMethodGuitar just rewound this about 10 times , then saw this comment haha - phew, thought i missed something too lol
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Welcome to Vermont!
I prefer labeling them according to the chord shape it corresponds to. I find it so weird when people shit talk the CAGED system. Makes me think they must not understand it! Or they’re just trying to come up with some bullshit clickbait title. Anyway- much love to you my brother- you rule. ✌🏼
Folks watching this should also watch your CAGED minor chord lesson #8. The numbering system works good for matching up the minor chords with the appropriate scales. The major CAGED chords match up with the scale shape names the minor chords don’t. 😅
Do you have a chart that say this is form for major/minor form such and this is CAGED major /minor shape such. Each shape should have four names right? IDK if my question is confusing. Thanks
Yes…lessons 7 and 8 of my Caged Primer Playlist
Thanks man. You’re the best teacher on the net. Props to you.
Great lesson,are you guys stopping by Northampton, Massachusetts on your trip?
You know I used to live there for a bit? Don’t know where we are going after the festival…. Stay tuned!😬
@@StichMethodGuitar if you guys do , stop by MILL RIVER MUSIC, It's the best music shop in Massachusetts! Have fun at the festival !
Wich festive u hitting up there a bunch goin on lol it seems hey if your around ct lmk I’d like meet you I know Phil an friends are playing soon in ct I’m only planning on goin to ct show but if your hitting up any not only Phil but anything in the tri state or mass area lmk buddy love get a jam session goin I know a bunch of players an Ben part of a many of lot jams lol 😎 I feel we might have some other common interest as well just cause we’re into the same kinda music an life style I’m Mello compared to my younger year but still know how to have fun
Is it good to jump scales with chords? Does it sound significantly better?
E.g. if a song is C F G Am
Is it good to play the whole song in Am Pentatonic
as compared to playing Am when the C or Am is played, Dm when the F is played, and Em when the G is played?
Shifting scales based on chords seems really involved, bc chords change really fast.
It is perfectly fine to play it all in Am but sometimes to sound more melodic you can chase the chord tones. You will also see that these chords will share many of the same notes!
Watch my Caged Primer Playlist lessons 7 and 8 and then watch my Trey Anastasio Wedge video
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Still the best Ian 👍
It’s a lot of work, but knowing where the chord tones are for all 7 chords in a key while staying in one scale might be the best thing for a lead guitarist to learn.
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Where in VT are you?
Was in Randolph, now in Swanzey NH
I don't think I got much from this video, which is very unusual for a Stich video. I think I was hoping for some links that would connect the CAGED shapes with the pentatonic, and thereby improve vision and understanding.
It’s cool… knowing lessons 7 and 8 in my Caged Primer playlist will sort it out. Let me know
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There shouldn’t be a debate. The shapes are the same. You should think about the notes you’re playing either way. The actual note name and the number as it relates to the underlying chord, like root, third, flat 7, #9 etc. Those numbers for the pentatonic boxes are somewhat arbitrary. The CAGED label is in the actual order that the shapes are in. I’ve always called it Caged-a-tonic😂
Yo Stitch. Vermonter here. Where you at?
Randolph
Stitch is wrong! That first solo was AMAZING!
I can’t use the Pentatonic scale.
Isn't 1st position pentatonic, the g shape
Yup
@@StichMethodGuitar Actually, you said it in the video, just after i posted the question Haha :)
I started with the e shape moved it up one fret and barred it making an f Barre. Than I figured out 4 more positions to play an f chord. So I learned in this order e, d, c, a, g. I didn't realize that in different order it spells caged. Most people learn an f Barre chord first( e form). Then they learn an Aminor pentatonic scale next (5th fret, E minor form).that's how I started. My teacher didn't know the technical names he called it a lead run or blues/ rock scale. Then I learned the other fingerings from there. I became the guitar teacher at EDWARDS MUSIC in Tampa(Edwards wrote the fretboard logic books about how the caged system works.) I can't understand why other teachers like Rick Beato don't like it, for most students it a good (but not the only way) to organize the neck). My teacher was Johnny K with Bill Haley for 8 years. And I taught Ralph Santolla (death metal god). He also had many students before he died. Musically yours Butch Darby. Pass it on