Do you know Claire's story? Let me know your thoughts, and who I should interview next! Here are the timestamps for you: 0:00 Losing her British accent 1:20 Born into UK Scientology (Sea Org nannies) 4:45 Tom Cruise: Katie Holmes & Nicole Kidman 6:00 How parents treat their kids 8:00 Claire bawled her eyes out 9:20 Claire’s mom: the hippy Catholic 12:50 Scientology SCHOOL 15:10 What ‘Banky’ means 19:50 Her abusive scientology teacher 22:14 Claire started auditing YOUNG 25:30 Gay: Banned (Oh No Nora) 28:30 How HIGH Claire got 31:30 Proud of Scientology success? 33:15 WHERE IS SHELLY MISCAVIGE 36:00 The worst things Claire did to people 39:10 Does she believe in a higher power? 41:00 Her husband Marc’s escape 43:50 Claire had to escape ALONE 48:00 Love for Marc - seeing him again! 50:30 She hid THIS from Marc 52:40 That South Park episode 54:00 Her mom’s video attack on her 56:00 Her grandma passed…CONFLICT
I’ve listened to enough of their chats and also read Marc’s book, to know a little about Claire’s life. It’s hard to believe she was separated from her mum at such a young age, especially when you know the environment in which she grew up, heartbreaking
Interview @DegradedDaughters, two former scientologists, one of them now working in the mental health field. So inspiring yet another example of a heartbreaking disconnection story!
2 weeks ago, I was at my Dr. office,and there were Narconon pamplets in the waiting room. I brought them to the front desk and explained that it was Scientology,and I showed them articles online. They said they never even knew the pamplets were there,and asked me to trash them. Very sneaky...... It was great to hear Claire's story. I've read Blown for Good twice. 😊
I hope that the desk attendent didn't tell you to throw them away. Then go and fish them out of the trash after you left. It makes me wonder if different people who claim that they don't know about Scientology, but they really truly do. So infuriating.
Yeah, they tried to suck me in when I was getting clean. I didn't know why, but I just knew God was telling me not to go. So I didn't. When I found out who they were, I was SO GLAD I listened to God & didn't go!
Claire, I know I don't know you, but I'm so proud of you for standing up to your stepfather and for having the bravery to escape. I can't imagine what it takes to start your life over with nothing in your pocket. But what and incredible achievement! I'm amazed by your story. Thank you, Andrew, for bringing another incredible story of scientology survival to light.
it's heartbreaking and absolutely maddening that children are denied time with their parents under this cult. I'm sorry for your loss, what a despicable, evil program.
Exactly children need to have their parents with them. To help then navigate life. Keeping parents from their children is just a recipe for their children to be victimized by creepy adults with bad intentions.
I watch several ex-Scientologists, and Claire is always my favorite to watch. Her story is so compelling, and as a mother I find it so difficult to understand how her mother could abandon her. I hope she has gotten the help she needs, and I’m sure she is an amazing mother to her own children as a result.
Her mother was abused in a Catholic school and there hasn’t been enough work around that in England. Maybe Ireland and Canada have just started, Ireland mostly with unwed mothers and raped boys but the girls’ not dealt with so much. Canada of course entitled North American genocide of the First Nations with killing FN children and sexually abusing them in Catholic schools. England and the USA are still in denial a. of it happening and b. of it happening on their own soil. I can not imagine what American school deaths and abuse numbers would be like if they can’t admit even one and Canada studied American schools to make theirs.
The more I hear/watch Claire speak, the more impressed with her and the more respect I have for her, Mark, Mike and A-A -Ron. They are the abolitionists of our time.
Don't forget Amy and Matt Scobee! They are all outstanding human beings! How many people could go through ehat they have and not spend the rest of their life being bitter or hating their parents for putting them into Scientology? Instead they have a mission to spread the truth about Scientology. By doing this, they are helping people to not get sucked into it, as well as giving help to people to get out.
I am so glad that Clair and Marc got out. It must be hard to spend so many years in Scientology and then find out it is all bs. Enjoyed the interview. 🇨🇦
Really looking forward to this. Claire Hedley is an extremely intelligent and thoughtful person and what she has to say about Scientology and cults in general is certainly worth the time.
@@j0nnyism No, I believe that currently it is probably Mike Rinder. When he escaped he was in one of the top 5 positions in the organization. In Claire's case I think she is so knowledgeable because of a confluence of factors. She was a 3rd generation member, raised from birth in the cult. Add to that her innate intelligence and her drive to achieve. All those things conspired to raise her up fairly high in the org.. One need only listen to her in a couple of interviews to realize that she is a very astutely intelligent person. I love listening to her and I respect her for her devotion to her husband and family as well. She's a class act. Nothing false about her. If she hasn't already, I believe that she has just finished her book about her life in Scientology. I intend to get one and dive right into it.
She is certainly all the things... and very, very credible. She just testified for the prosecution at the Danny Masterson rape trial, resulting in a conviction. A true heroine.
Claire is an absolute warrior. I love her, Marc, Mike, Leah, and all the other escapees from that despicable cult. Keep on fighting Claire. Sending love and hugs.
Feeling the validation when she's to talk about the horrible experience would be exhilarating. But there's two sides to every coin, so as exhilarating as it likely was, it also could be very overwhelming. However, some people thrive best on encouragement...and a bunch of hugs. It had to be like seeing the daylight for the first time ever! Scientologists have got to be the nastiest and rudest outside of their existence
Claire is an amazing person and she is an example of using the wisdom gained through overcoming one's difficulties to grow as a person and to be of service to others. Full admiration.
That was a great interview Andrew. Clair is one of the sweetest people I know. I don't actually know her but from watching her and Marc's channel I feel that I know her. It surprises the hell out of me to think that she was a top tier executive in Scientology. She's a naturally empathic person and to think of her as a ruthless scientologist is extremely hard to do.
They still do. Spy on them.. still fair gaming all. I worry for Aaron doing real estate. Women showing homes alone is dangerous but they can be even more dark. It’s awful. I have never seen a Cruise movie other than first Top Gun & Jerry McGuire. I will purposely now not watch any Mission Impossible movies bc he’s obviously giving a lot of his fortune to the cult. Disgusting!
After 8 years in a Roman Catholic School, I can 100% say that my experience of Catholicism is the exact OPPOSITE of Scientology. I was the only 3rd grader in the school's 40-year history to ever see the Monsignor to ask what I was confirming in my Holy Confirmation ceremony. He listened to my questions and answered them, was very open and accepting when I disagreed on purgatory, and told me to "never stop questioning" and assured me that whatever i decided was okay because it's a very personal decision. I've chosen another faith as an adult -- and had no fear of leaving. No one was spying on me, chasing me down or threatening me and I'm getting pretty sick of people attacking Catholicism when they admittedly know very little about it. I choose not to drink but if you know anything about Polish weddings, there is plenty of drinking and dancing. (And most Pols are Roman Catholic.) Other differences, they NEVER discouraged time spent with parents. They NEVER made us pay for additional courses. They NEVER shamed their students by forcing them to to take responsibility for other people's actions. They NEVER flipped from a belief in God to belief in a space alien. Unless you knew the people personally, you NEVER heard about who left the church and we were NEVER told to shun them. They NEVER sent you to some camp to repent. They NEVER even suggested we worship the Monsignor over God. And we were never told that the Monsignor was anything more than a mortal man educated in Theology and Catholicism. They were very accepting of the kids in the school who weren't Catholic, and there was no push to recruit them. On the contrary, it was open discussion during religion class (one period a day). How is ANY of the above reminiscent of Scientology or any cult? How many people are leaving the Catholic Church and starting social media channels? Since when does a cult tell you to keep an open mind and to never stop🎉 questioning your beliefs? Where exactly are the similarities? I was looking forward to this video and, despite the fact I'm no longer a practicing Catholic, I had to tune out early. I come to a Journalist's channel for truth. This is not a channel where I expect see so many mistruths and vitriol over things you and your guests admittedly know very little about. Both you and your guests say you know very little about it. That's where you should have stopped because you're right. One last question: Why do I only hear this stuff about Catholicism being a cult on Scientology channels? If that's what Scientology taught them, why aren't expats questioning that?
Thank you for the clarification. I am Catholic and as always the comments made about Catholicism are clearly misinformed. Nothing is perfect, so there will be good and bad in everything. I know when my kids were going through confirmation, they were told that it was their decision. Not their parents or the church. There was one girl who changed her mind the day of confirmation and it was respected.
@@soonerbmama6727 Thank you for sharing your experience. I've since asked a non-Catholic friend 20 yrs younger that attended a different Catholic school whether there was a big drive to recruit or convert her. There wasn't. So where did all this "cult" talk start? It seems to be most repeated by Scientologists and the timing seems to be about the same time so many people started leaving and speaking out. To my recollection, the first time I heard anything about Catholicism being a cult may have been by Leah or during one of her interviews with ex-Scientologists. I guess because they know so much about Catholicism? (not) Thank you for the credibility your truth lends to mine.
I’ve noticed this as well. I’m Baptist but half my family are Catholic. I grew up going to both churches and was allowed to decide what I believed and where (or if) I felt faith. Some in my family are not involved in church at all. Yet we are all Christian and none of us feel obligated to disconnect from each other over our difference’s. I have friends of many faiths and of none. I’ve never been forced to do anything, certainly not forbidden to ask questions or speak to others. I could walk away from my church tomorrow and my family would never think of disconnecting from me and my church definitely wouldn’t demand it. They sure as heck wouldn’t hunt me down, lock me away as a prisoner and abuse me! I’ve noticed a lot of the channels of ex Scientologist or those that interview them are anti religion or anti faith period. But most often anti Christianity. Because they are often people who see everything as a cult now. It’s sad and misleading. Any religion, faith, believe or ideology can be cooped by horrible people and used to do horrible things. That doesn’t mean the are right or represent that belief correctly. I think it’s disappointing to see people who obviously don’t understand the beliefs of others to put their own judgment on it. Just as we try to understand how good people got sucked into Scientology without judging as we don’t know the reality behind it. But unfortunately people assume they know about all faiths and assume all are bad because a cult decides to call itself religion or faith.
@@LadyLibertyBella Thanks for chipping in to the conversation. Coincidentally, as I was writing that comment, it occurred to me that in the old days it was the Baptists that were picked on. Since the priest pedophilia thing, those that were picking on Baptists flipped over to pick on Catholics. Since pedophiles exhibit psychopathic behavior, and psychopaths enjoy positions of power and, like Scientology, other religions may be operated by (or have officials that appear to be) psychopaths, we can be certain that there are pedophiles in every faith/religion. But even having pedophiles in a religion does not define it as a cult. I guess people are just going to hate on whatever they feel moved to hate on!
Cradle catholic here and my experience is similiar to yours, with the difference that I returned to the church after looking around at other churches. In no effin way it is cult-like. I question all the time and can donate or not. Catholicism is also the largest charitable organization in the world - I give to there’s in need through the church on a weekly basis. There’s no cultish aspects about it.
Great interview! Claire is a wonderful, strong woman that despite all she's gone (and goes) through, she continuously braves that cult to teach others about what they do to families and also how to help. We are all lucky to know of her and to learn from her. Claire, you're awesome ❤
Andrew Gold ; the man who dismantled the church of Scientology. Maybe just maybe. Another great interview Andrew. You’re getting really good at listening
I am listening from the beginning now. This is a real gem of an Interview. Claire is very knowledgeable about Scientology and has many stories. Well done Andrew, loving this. 😊
The Sea Org has no problem with permanently destroying families if it means getting or keeping another slave. They tried to steal my wife and I went ballistic. We are both out now. This is probably the worst crime they continuously attempt to commit.
Andrew, this work of yours is FANTASTIC!! You have no idea how much you have been hepling people around the world to know about this cult. Here in South America in the last year, I believe, you literally opened many eyes. People as you said, just knew this was "Tom Cruise's cult" but now we know better. Fortunately, the subtitles availability help a lot. THANKS!!
Thank You 💕 for giving people (especially women) who have been abused a voice 😢 I have been thinking about writing a book about my experience with abuse.?. Don't know yet? I really appreciate you though ❤❤❤
@@fairyspunfibers9098 I had just finished writing another comment when I liked and commented on yours. She did speak on something she admitted she knows little about. Andrew did, as well.
@Just Me True, but she always admits it when she doesn't know much about something. That's the humble-stuff. 🤗❤ As an aside, I've noticed that most ex-Scis tend to be amazingly truthful and self-deprecating, which is just astonishing considering their horrible training (brainwashing). I would do well to emulate this! 😊
*Andrew!* It was absolutely AMAZING having Claire on! Thank you so much! She's an absolute inspiration to SO many ppl! She's wonderful & beautiful, and a sweetheart of a human bean!! 😇🥰♥️✨️🤗 *Great video!* Shows just how EVIL scientology & scientologists actually are. 💯
Claire, I read Tony's report on Substack and I felt impressed by your outstanding record while Holley doing her best to discredit you. I felt proud of you for speaking with such clarity and confidence. I'll be watching your channel, Claire. Much 💜 to, Mark and your family.
❤ How Claire could overcome all she has is admirable! I'm betting your a wonderful mother. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! What I find so hard to understand is how any mother can put anyone or anything over our children! Just can't comprehend that one! God's blessings on your family! ❤
I love Claire, she's amazing. I'd so like to hear more about her childhood,,, but maybe not if it still taumatises her. The real life stories have been such an education on Scientology, and the way all those guys deliver it means you know its not hyperbole. What I've found so far on Claire's where is Shelly series, is that there is very little ,,, personal reflection on what Shelly was like when young - is that on purpose do you think (it is Shelley's story to tell maybe). Claire had even interrupted a small anecdote Mike Rinder was relling about shoe laces - no big deal but I was enjoying it and had wanted to hear the end.
As a war veteran, and my ex-husband was a war veteran as well, two people with PTsD often don't stay married, hence me and my ex. Glad they made it through.
Hi. I’m catholic and it’s a christian faith not a cult. Faith is from free will. Christians honour keeping family together and people are free to come and go in the faith. Understand ppl who don’t know catholic/ Christian may feel in some way it is cultish I guess? Far far far removed from Scientology Thanks for another great interview Andrew 👍🏼 Claire is amazing ❤
Scientology is a “church” for tax purposes and improperly avails itself of the protections that the framers of our Constitution wished to provide to secure religious freedom In truth, Scientology’s abusive, Criminal “doctrine” is cancer on the body of real religious freedom.
@@eileenbates-bordies1604 well that’s on them as Jesus nor the church, doesn’t teach that, in fact the opposite. We are called to love and care . Your right, it is really sad 😔 A sign of a cult is cutting of those not involved, I’m disappointed your family did that too you, it’s not ‘love thy neighbour’ is it? My sister cut me out of her life years ago (so I lost contact with my neice and nephews who o loved dearly) and it still hurts so I sympathies with you. Jesus is awesome but his followers can really mess up. I hope you have ppl around you who do love and support you. Have a blessed day 💖
Within any organization there can be abusive and destructive people. With fundamentalists in any faith, people need to be aware of what can and does happen. If you are able to question a religion or an organization (I won't call Scientology a religion) and can walk out freely, it's not a cult. If they refuse to let you leave even by just blocking you from a door or not allowing you talking to anyone you wish, then get out. There are people such as Aaron and Claire that can help.
I don’t know why Claire, but when you speak, it really cuts through the bs, in a way that nobody else does. I know you are such a bright spirit to bring light to this darkness. I feel honored to have heard your story. It is totally inhuman and inhumane. It also reminds me of an episode of Black Mirror, where everyone was forced to play this Star Trek fantasy, some freak had. I think of Star Trek often when I think of Scientology. He was his own Captain Kirk, in his mind. He believed his own delusions so much that other people did too? I think the whole lot of you “sp’s are really awesome people. You all seem extraordinary in one way or another. I’m sure your children help you continue to heal. Hope your loved ones come around.
Dani, today is May 26, 2024. I just got this video on my YT feed. I have been subscribed for a while to your channel. Good job advocating for our beloved friend, Elena. Thank you for the reminder of where our thoughts and actions should and shouldn’t be. No doubt I can do some more inner child work on myself. Your various videos on breaking contracts, protecting ourselves on all levels, and your many experiences with benevolent and regressive beings, and demonic entities has been a great help to me. I’m not alone anymore. Bless you and keep safe in the constant love of our Source and Earthly Mother. Your grateful follower. 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
FANTASTIC INTERVIEW! 👏🏼👏🏼 I remember watching Claire and Marks story on the show The Aftermath I had tears in my eyes so sad I’m very happy they got out of this ridiculous and abusive cult Love Claire love U Andrew Gold sending ❤ from Canada 🇨🇦
Claire is such an amazing, strong, inteligent and whole-hearted woman that it's just mind blowing. Among all great things she does, she still has been helping all these people who are trying to escape this cult. I've read Marc's book and cannot wait to read hers. You did it again, Andrew! Thank you ❤
Fantastic interview Andrew I really appreciate your skill and tact in all your videos. You allow people to speak without constant interruptions and ask profound questions that keep it moving along at a nice pace. Claire is such an inspiring person and it’s amazing that after a lifetime of indoctrination she managed to not only escape but to help others who struggle in leaving. Hip hip hooray to the both of you!
What a strong, brave, intelligent and capable woman Claire is. She’s an inspiration to people regardless of if they’re Scientologists or not. I truly enjoy watching her and I support everything she’s doing now with SPTV and everything else.
Andrew - thank you for interviewing Claire. We just love her dearly. Claire - thank you for being open and honest in telling your story. It cannot be easy to speak about Scientology so often. You have helped so many people, it’s incredible. I especially love hearing your perspective shift after becoming a mother - absolutely gut-reaching. You’ve done everything you can possibly do from the “outside,” and hopefully one day your mom will realize that and join you in your journey, together. Somewhere, deep down, I sense that she knows that. She knows your safe, and she knows you are happy. Sending so much love your way. ❤
Andrew, once again you’ve shown such compassion and empathy. Just one of the reasons I love watching your CZcams channel! Congrats on a fabulous podcast!
Love Claire! Team Claire Bear here 🐻💓 Thanks Andrew, for having her on your channel to talk about even more of her life. Looking forward to her book! - Saskia Kidd
Hearing Claire story is heartbreaking. I am a wife and a mother I can't imagine how her family could just turn their backs on their own children. Scientology has destroyed so many amazing people v/ families. Thank you for speaking up and helping others through the Aftermath foundation. Claire you are such a loving , caring and compassionate person. May you and Andrew know how appreciated you are. I am an ex-Mormon and can relate to how difficult it can be to walk away knowing that you have to do it. Religion and cults aren't always what they appear to be. Your courage is very admirable. Thank you for your dedication to such a deserving cause.
Well, not sure where my latest comment went, but just wanted to thank you, Andrew, for interviewing our beloved Clairebear! 💕 Bless her heart, she and Marc went through hell, and not only survived, but thrived! Bless all who are still stuck in the Mind Prison of Scientology. I pray daily for their freedom. 💕🙏
I love listening to 'escapes' because there are many people in really difficult 'shituations' not necessarily 'cults' who are thinking their way out of or trying to get free of difficult situations. It gives one courage. It's almost like a thriller, and I have personal experience of 'escaping' certain narcissistic family members. However once you've escaped you are left to your own devices to pick up the pieces of your life. It's also such a difficult thing to explain to others.
I knew this would be tough to hear, so I waited a couple of weeks. Somehow, I knew that child SA would be in there somewhere, and I have to be cautious for my mental health. The man who assaulted me was a public school teacher. He was finally arrested, tried, and sent to prison, but only after several children had been harmed. My Catholic Christian faith has helped me throughout my life, and I’m glad that child abuse is widely recognized as something that happens in every church (including mine) and in every school system, and just about every place that children frequent. The fact that we now have laws that require the reporting of either known or suspected child abuse to police by educators and health care professionals and religious “confessors” and others in professions where an adult might be in a position to find out about it is a great step forward. It’s extremely difficult to understand or to accept that there are adults in the Cult of Scientology who know about children being abused, and who do nothing about it in terms of our common justice system. Those adults had better wake up, because non Scientologists won’t be putting up with this heinous behavior. And you can bet, if a person is doing this within your cult, they won’t miss an opportunity to do it to children outside of it, as Claire has described. So if you keep wanting to call some of your members “priests” or religious “counselors”, you had better keep them informed about their responsibilities, because they can now be charged, too, if they fail to contact authorities. God bless you Claire! You and your husband and Andrew and Aaron and Chris and several others now are truly offering hope, support, and information for those escaping Scientology. I’m sure that this is very difficult for you sometimes, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and even physically, as I know that the stress involved can often be a lot to deal with. Thank you to all of you. What you are doing is important! Don’t worry, Andrew! I predict you are going to have a long and beautiful life with family and friends beside you!
Stories about young Claire always bring tears to my eyes. I want to save her. She and her husband Marc have talked about a lot of this on their channel.
Wow, her stories are so powerful. When I was in high school, there were rumors of certain teacher and students. Not long after I left he ended up being arrested for such things. Smh
Claire, you brought me to tears, with your escape, and meeting up with Mark at the end of the ordeal. Just so beautiful. Thankyou for sharing your story. 😊😊😊
Really!!! I am surprised you removed my comment. I absolutely love Claire, and am a true Claire Bear 🐻. I cry for the little girl, all the way until she escaped. I’m so looking forward to watching this on replay as it will start 4am here in Melbourne.
@@heartshapedisle hi Tassie neighbour 😁 it was actually that I asked Andrew if he could have found a less flattering picture of Claire, as I thought it was pretty horrible of our Beautiful Claire Bear. I stated that she is so beautiful inside and out and that the thumbnail didn’t do her justice 🙄
She's such a lovely woman. All these ex-Scientologist we are familiar with now have such magnetic personalities. They have so much if my respect for speaking out and being so raw and honest. X
Really enjoy your interviews. You let the interviewee speak without interruption, just inputting enough to keep things rolling and on point. Many famous interviewers could learn something from you. Great interview skills.
The fact that a verdict hasn't been reached yet for Danny Masterson is terrifying. I don't know how they can't look at the facts and not just convict him. I didn't think it would take this many days. Come on Mrs and Mr jurors.
I'm a bit separated from my family (cuz I'm in a different country), and i can feel quite depressed, but I'm getting courage to be strong, because if Claire can continue, i can too! Thank you to both of you, and to all those fighting for the liberation of those still stuck there ❤
I am in tears Andrew, what an incredible interview with an amazing cult survivor. I am so sorry for what Ms. Headley endured and thankful she is using her voice to help all cult survivors. Brilliant Andrew, thank you for having her on 💕
I've never been a scientologist or known one personally, but I read Marc's book many years ago and their story is just so touching and compelling. Great interview! I can't wait for Claire's book.
I love Claire (and her hubby) when they were in Leah Remini’s show. Thank you for inviting her for a chat. It is simply heartbreaking to hear her story as im sure it mirrors a lot of stories in Scientology. She is so knowledgeable about the whole subject too so i love listening to her.
Do you know Claire's story? Let me know your thoughts, and who I should interview next!
Here are the timestamps for you:
0:00 Losing her British accent
1:20 Born into UK Scientology (Sea Org nannies)
4:45 Tom Cruise: Katie Holmes & Nicole Kidman
6:00 How parents treat their kids
8:00 Claire bawled her eyes out
9:20 Claire’s mom: the hippy Catholic
12:50 Scientology SCHOOL
15:10 What ‘Banky’ means
19:50 Her abusive scientology teacher
22:14 Claire started auditing YOUNG
25:30 Gay: Banned (Oh No Nora)
28:30 How HIGH Claire got
31:30 Proud of Scientology success?
33:15 WHERE IS SHELLY MISCAVIGE
36:00 The worst things Claire did to people
39:10 Does she believe in a higher power?
41:00 Her husband Marc’s escape
43:50 Claire had to escape ALONE
48:00 Love for Marc - seeing him again!
50:30 She hid THIS from Marc
52:40 That South Park episode
54:00 Her mom’s video attack on her
56:00 Her grandma passed…CONFLICT
a shockingly sad story, told by so many ex scientologists
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I’ve listened to enough of their chats and also read Marc’s book, to know a little about Claire’s life.
It’s hard to believe she was separated from her mum at such a young age, especially when you know the environment in which she grew up, heartbreaking
Claire and Marc Headley are proof positive that there is LIFE AFTER SCIENTOLOGY. So inspiring to hear!❤❤❤
Interview @DegradedDaughters, two former scientologists, one of them now working in the mental health field. So inspiring yet another example of a heartbreaking disconnection story!
2 weeks ago, I was at my Dr. office,and there were Narconon pamplets in the waiting room. I brought them to the front desk and explained that it was Scientology,and I showed them articles online. They said they never even knew the pamplets were there,and asked me to trash them. Very sneaky...... It was great to hear Claire's story. I've read Blown for Good twice. 😊
I hope that the desk attendent didn't tell you to throw them away. Then go and fish them out of the trash after you left. It makes me wonder if different people who claim that they don't know about Scientology, but they really truly do. So infuriating.
Yeah, they tried to suck me in when I was getting clean. I didn't know why, but I just knew God was telling me not to go. So I didn't. When I found out who they were, I was SO GLAD I listened to God & didn't go!
Yea I’ve read them without realising what they are. That’s their intent I think
Yea I’ve read them without realising what they are. That’s their intent I think
@j0nnyism when I spoke to them for over an hour on the phone, they never mentioned they were Scientology.
Scientology destroys families and Scientology destroys souls.
Claire, I know I don't know you, but I'm so proud of you for standing up to your stepfather and for having the bravery to escape. I can't imagine what it takes to start your life over with nothing in your pocket. But what and incredible achievement! I'm amazed by your story. Thank you, Andrew, for bringing another incredible story of scientology survival to light.
it's heartbreaking and absolutely maddening that children are denied time with their parents under this cult. I'm sorry for your loss, what a despicable, evil program.
Exactly children need to have their parents with them. To help then navigate life. Keeping parents from their children is just a recipe for their children to be victimized by creepy adults with bad intentions.
Kinda depends on the parents, though. 😊
The parents are guilty too for allowing it and I think even more culpable than the cult because they hand over their children.
Claire may have been No. 3 in $cientology, but she's Number 1 with me! Thanks for having her on.
I admire Claire. She is amazing! She is intelligent, smart, bad ass, compassionate...all in one. Great interview Andrew. Thank you!
Good for you. SHE'S AN ACTRESS NOT A GOD!
@@jacquelinesimpson6672and you are a puppet
@@jacquelinesimpson6672 why would you need to say that... OSA?
I watch several ex-Scientologists, and Claire is always my favorite to watch. Her story is so compelling, and as a mother I find it so difficult to understand how her mother could abandon her. I hope she has gotten the help she needs, and I’m sure she is an amazing mother to her own children as a result.
Her mother was abused in a Catholic school and there hasn’t been enough work around that in England. Maybe Ireland and Canada have just started, Ireland mostly with unwed mothers and raped boys but the girls’ not dealt with so much. Canada of course entitled North American genocide of the First Nations with killing FN children and sexually abusing them in Catholic schools. England and the USA are still in denial a. of it happening and b. of it happening on their own soil. I can not imagine what American school deaths and abuse numbers would be like if they can’t admit even one and Canada studied American schools to make theirs.
Claire is always so positive it blows my mind
The more I hear/watch Claire speak, the more impressed with her and the more respect I have for her, Mark, Mike and A-A -Ron. They are the abolitionists of our time.
Don't forget Amy and Matt Scobee! They are all outstanding human beings! How many people could go through ehat they have and not spend the rest of their life being bitter or hating their parents for putting them into Scientology? Instead they have a mission to spread the truth about Scientology. By doing this, they are helping people to not get sucked into it, as well as giving help to people to get out.
Claire is so smart, effervescent and positive. I just love her. Her story is one of triumph. Thanks for the interview
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good thing they made them write a lot of reports, which enables them to write a lot of books
I am so glad that Clair and Marc got out. It must be hard to spend so many years in Scientology and then find out it is all bs.
Enjoyed the interview. 🇨🇦
Really looking forward to this. Claire Hedley is an extremely intelligent and thoughtful person and what she has to say about Scientology and cults in general is certainly worth the time.
Very cool. I don't know her story, just that she's lovely.
That’s probably why she was so high up in the organisation. I think she’s the highest ex Scientologist. She has beautiful eyes.
@@j0nnyism No, I believe that currently it is probably Mike Rinder. When he escaped he was in one of the top 5 positions in the organization. In Claire's case I think she is so knowledgeable because of a confluence of factors. She was a 3rd generation member, raised from birth in the cult. Add to that her innate intelligence and her drive to achieve. All those things conspired to raise her up fairly high in the org.. One need only listen to her in a couple of interviews to realize that she is a very astutely intelligent person. I love listening to her and I respect her for her devotion to her husband and family as well. She's a class act. Nothing false about her. If she hasn't already, I believe that she has just finished her book about her life in Scientology. I intend to get one and dive right into it.
She is certainly all the things... and very, very credible. She just testified for the prosecution at the Danny Masterson rape trial, resulting in a conviction. A true heroine.
@@michaelwagner8859 yeah I was impressed.
Claire is an absolute warrior. I love her, Marc, Mike, Leah, and all the other escapees from that despicable cult. Keep on fighting Claire. Sending love and hugs.
I know that it is "retraumatizing" to share these events in such detail. Thanks for your bravery and perseverance.
@Peggy Gates
Not always. For some people, it is cathartic.
Feeling the validation when she's to talk about the horrible experience would be exhilarating.
But there's two sides to every coin, so as exhilarating as it likely was, it also could be very overwhelming. However, some people thrive best on encouragement...and a bunch of hugs.
It had to be like seeing the daylight for the first time ever!
Scientologists have got to be the nastiest and rudest outside of their existence
Claire is an amazing person and she is an example of using the wisdom gained through overcoming one's difficulties to grow as a person and to be of service to others. Full admiration.
That was a great interview Andrew. Clair is one of the sweetest people I know. I don't actually know her but from watching her and Marc's channel I feel that I know her. It surprises the hell out of me to think that she was a top tier executive in Scientology. She's a naturally empathic person and to think of her as a ruthless scientologist is extremely hard to do.
She has been through so much!! She is such a strong person. I hope she is able to continue to heal after all this
Really looking forward to this. Claire"s story is amazing. She's a brave, strong, wonderful woman and a total bad ass 👊 💞💞.
Someone protect this woman Claire at all costs. I hope they don’t come after her for talking about this cult.
They still do. Spy on them.. still fair gaming all. I worry for Aaron doing real estate. Women showing homes alone is dangerous but they can be even more dark. It’s awful. I have never seen a Cruise movie other than first Top Gun & Jerry McGuire. I will purposely now not watch any Mission Impossible movies bc he’s obviously giving a lot of his fortune to the cult. Disgusting!
Claire is such an incredibly strong, brave, and kind woman. Her "Where is Shelly Miscaviage" series is great so far and a must watch! ❤️
After 8 years in a Roman Catholic School, I can 100% say that my experience of Catholicism is the exact OPPOSITE of Scientology. I was the only 3rd grader in the school's 40-year history to ever see the Monsignor to ask what I was confirming in my Holy Confirmation ceremony. He listened to my questions and answered them, was very open and accepting when I disagreed on purgatory, and told me to "never stop questioning" and assured me that whatever i decided was okay because it's a very personal decision.
I've chosen another faith as an adult -- and had no fear of leaving. No one was spying on me, chasing me down or threatening me and I'm getting pretty sick of people attacking Catholicism when they admittedly know very little about it.
I choose not to drink but if you know anything about Polish weddings, there is plenty of drinking and dancing. (And most Pols are Roman Catholic.)
Other differences, they NEVER discouraged time spent with parents.
They NEVER made us pay for additional courses.
They NEVER shamed their students by forcing them to to take responsibility for other people's actions.
They NEVER flipped from a belief in God to belief in a space alien.
Unless you knew the people personally, you NEVER heard about who left the church and we were NEVER told to shun them.
They NEVER sent you to some camp to repent.
They NEVER even suggested we worship the Monsignor over God. And we were never told that the Monsignor was anything more than a mortal man educated in Theology and Catholicism.
They were very accepting of the kids in the school who weren't Catholic, and there was no push to recruit them. On the contrary, it was open discussion during religion class (one period a day).
How is ANY of the above reminiscent of Scientology or any cult? How many people are leaving the Catholic Church and starting social media channels? Since when does a cult tell you to keep an open mind and to never stop🎉 questioning your beliefs? Where exactly are the similarities?
I was looking forward to this video and, despite the fact I'm no longer a practicing Catholic, I had to tune out early.
I come to a Journalist's channel for truth. This is not a channel where I expect see so many mistruths and vitriol over things you and your guests admittedly know very little about.
Both you and your guests say you know very little about it. That's where you should have stopped because you're right.
One last question: Why do I only hear this stuff about Catholicism being a cult on Scientology channels? If that's what Scientology taught them, why aren't expats questioning that?
Thank you for the clarification. I am Catholic and as always the comments made about Catholicism are clearly misinformed. Nothing is perfect, so there will be good and bad in everything. I know when my kids were going through confirmation, they were told that it was their decision. Not their parents or the church. There was one girl who changed her mind the day of confirmation and it was respected.
@@soonerbmama6727 Thank you for sharing your experience. I've since asked a non-Catholic friend 20 yrs younger that attended a different Catholic school whether there was a big drive to recruit or convert her. There wasn't. So where did all this "cult" talk start? It seems to be most repeated by Scientologists and the timing seems to be about the same time so many people started leaving and speaking out. To my recollection, the first time I heard anything about Catholicism being a cult may have been by Leah or during one of her interviews with ex-Scientologists. I guess because they know so much about Catholicism? (not) Thank you for the credibility your truth lends to mine.
I’ve noticed this as well. I’m Baptist but half my family are Catholic. I grew up going to both churches and was allowed to decide what I believed and where (or if) I felt faith. Some in my family are not involved in church at all. Yet we are all Christian and none of us feel obligated to disconnect from each other over our difference’s. I have friends of many faiths and of none. I’ve never been forced to do anything, certainly not forbidden to ask questions or speak to others. I could walk away from my church tomorrow and my family would never think of disconnecting from me and my church definitely wouldn’t demand it. They sure as heck wouldn’t hunt me down, lock me away as a prisoner and abuse me!
I’ve noticed a lot of the channels of ex Scientologist or those that interview them are anti religion or anti faith period. But most often anti Christianity. Because they are often people who see everything as a cult now. It’s sad and misleading. Any religion, faith, believe or ideology can be cooped by horrible people and used to do horrible things. That doesn’t mean the are right or represent that belief correctly.
I think it’s disappointing to see people who obviously don’t understand the beliefs of others to put their own judgment on it. Just as we try to understand how good people got sucked into Scientology without judging as we don’t know the reality behind it. But unfortunately people assume they know about all faiths and assume all are bad because a cult decides to call itself religion or faith.
@@LadyLibertyBella Thanks for chipping in to the conversation. Coincidentally, as I was writing that comment, it occurred to me that in the old days it was the Baptists that were picked on. Since the priest pedophilia thing, those that were picking on Baptists flipped over to pick on Catholics. Since pedophiles exhibit psychopathic behavior, and psychopaths enjoy positions of power and, like Scientology, other religions may be operated by (or have officials that appear to be) psychopaths, we can be certain that there are pedophiles in every faith/religion. But even having pedophiles in a religion does not define it as a cult. I guess people are just going to hate on whatever they feel moved to hate on!
Cradle catholic here and my experience is similiar to yours, with the difference that I returned to the church after looking around at other churches. In no effin way it is cult-like. I question all the time and can donate or not. Catholicism is also the largest charitable organization in the world - I give to there’s in need through the church on a weekly basis. There’s no cultish aspects about it.
Great interview! Claire is a wonderful, strong woman that despite all she's gone (and goes) through, she continuously braves that cult to teach others about what they do to families and also how to help. We are all lucky to know of her and to learn from her. Claire, you're awesome ❤
Clair is a thriving survivor!! 👍👏👏👏🎉❣️
You're a great survivor Clare
You are classically Irish looking. If you visit Ireland you'll see so many redheads like you.
Andrew Gold ; the man who dismantled the church of Scientology. Maybe just maybe. Another great interview Andrew. You’re getting really good at listening
I am listening from the beginning now. This is a real gem of an Interview. Claire is very knowledgeable about Scientology and has many stories. Well done Andrew, loving this. 😊
The Sea Org has no problem with permanently destroying families if it means getting or keeping another slave. They tried to steal my wife and I went ballistic. We are both out now. This is probably the worst crime they continuously attempt to commit.
My father lost his Appalachian accent; nobody else in his family did. It was quite weird visiting aunts and uncles and grannies.
Claire Bear is the absolute best. This is such a great interview ❤
Love Claire! Great guest! Wealth of knowledge! Keep it coming :)
Very interesting. What wicked vile organization
Andrew, this work of yours is FANTASTIC!! You have no idea how much you have been hepling people around the world to know about this cult. Here in South America in the last year, I believe, you literally opened many eyes. People as you said, just knew this was "Tom Cruise's cult" but now we know better. Fortunately, the subtitles availability help a lot. THANKS!!
Thank You 💕 for giving people (especially women) who have been abused a voice 😢 I have been thinking about writing a book about my experience with abuse.?. Don't know yet? I really appreciate you though ❤❤❤
It is clear that Claire speaks the truth.
Agreed. But only on topics she is educated in.
@Just Me
That shows a humble spirit. We all would do well to follow her example and not express opinions on subjects about which we know nothing.
@@fairyspunfibers9098 I had just finished writing another comment when I liked and commented on yours. She did speak on something she admitted she knows little about. Andrew did, as well.
@Just Me
True, but she always admits it when she doesn't know much about something. That's the humble-stuff. 🤗❤ As an aside, I've noticed that most ex-Scis tend to be amazingly truthful and self-deprecating, which is just astonishing considering their horrible training (brainwashing). I would do well to emulate this! 😊
Lots of peace, love, prayers and light to you Andrew, Claire and all of you watching xx
Claire Bears unite!!
*Andrew!* It was absolutely AMAZING having Claire on! Thank you so much! She's an absolute inspiration to SO many ppl! She's wonderful & beautiful, and a sweetheart of a human bean!! 😇🥰♥️✨️🤗
*Great video!* Shows just how EVIL scientology & scientologists actually are. 💯
Claire, I read Tony's report on Substack and I felt impressed by your outstanding record while Holley doing her best to discredit you. I felt proud of you for speaking with such clarity and confidence. I'll be watching your channel, Claire. Much 💜 to, Mark and your family.
Hello lovely Claire x always so lovely to see you x
Claire is a gem. Thank you for interviewing her and covering the news of this cult.
❤ How Claire could overcome all she has is admirable! I'm betting your a wonderful mother. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! What I find so hard to understand is how any mother can put anyone or anything over our children! Just can't comprehend that one! God's blessings on your family! ❤
I love Claire, she's amazing. I'd so like to hear more about her childhood,,, but maybe not if it still taumatises her. The real life stories have been such an education on Scientology, and the way all those guys deliver it means you know its not hyperbole. What I've found so far on Claire's where is Shelly series, is that there is very little ,,, personal reflection on what Shelly was like when young - is that on purpose do you think (it is Shelley's story to tell maybe). Claire had even interrupted a small anecdote Mike Rinder was relling about shoe laces - no big deal but I was enjoying it and had wanted to hear the end.
Super excited to hear Claire ❤
As a war veteran, and my ex-husband was a war veteran as well, two people with PTsD often don't stay married, hence me and my ex. Glad they made it through.
Great interview. Claire is a gem.
Hi. I’m catholic and it’s a christian faith not a cult. Faith is from free will. Christians honour keeping family together and people are free to come and go in the faith.
Understand ppl who don’t know catholic/ Christian may feel in some way it is cultish I guess?
Far far far removed from Scientology
Thanks for another great interview Andrew 👍🏼 Claire is amazing ❤
If you act with cult behavior then you're a cult. Some Christian sects are less cult like, some are more cult like.
Scientology is a “church” for tax purposes and improperly avails itself of the protections that the framers of our Constitution wished to provide to secure religious freedom
In truth, Scientology’s abusive, Criminal “doctrine” is cancer on the body of real religious freedom.
Unless you step away from being Catholic. I was rejected by my Sister-in-Law and so also my Brother and all my neice and nephews. So sad,
@@eileenbates-bordies1604 well that’s on them as Jesus nor the church, doesn’t teach that, in fact the opposite. We are called to love and care . Your right, it is really sad 😔 A sign of a cult is cutting of those not involved, I’m disappointed your family did that too you, it’s not ‘love thy neighbour’ is it? My sister cut me out of her life years ago (so I lost contact with my neice and nephews who o loved dearly) and it still hurts so I sympathies with you. Jesus is awesome but his followers can really mess up.
I hope you have ppl around you who do love and support you. Have a blessed day 💖
Within any organization there can be abusive and destructive people. With fundamentalists in any faith, people need to be aware of what can and does happen. If you are able to question a religion or an organization (I won't call Scientology a religion) and can walk out freely, it's not a cult. If they refuse to let you leave even by just blocking you from a door or not allowing you talking to anyone you wish, then get out. There are people such as Aaron and Claire that can help.
Really great interview with Claire Bear! 😊😊😊
Amazing interview Andrew, always love hearing from Claire. Claire I am looking forward to your book and for more Where is Shelly? episodes. 💚
Claire is such an intelligent and beautiful woman. Love watching her content. Great interview, again.
I don’t know why Claire, but when you speak, it really cuts through the bs, in a way that nobody else does. I know you are such a bright spirit to bring light to this darkness. I feel honored to have heard your story. It is totally inhuman and inhumane.
It also reminds me of an episode of Black Mirror, where everyone was forced to play this Star Trek fantasy, some freak had.
I think of Star Trek often when I think of Scientology. He was his own Captain Kirk, in his mind. He believed his own delusions so much that other people did too?
I think the whole lot of you “sp’s are really awesome people. You all seem extraordinary in one way or another. I’m sure your children help you continue to heal. Hope your loved ones come around.
Great to see you finally interview Clair!
I don’t understand how they call it a religion. She’s so interesting and clever. Bless her and her family.
I love you miss Claire!
Bless you, and thanks Andrew, what a charming lady. 🇨🇦 Cheers from Ontario. Xx
Dani, today is May 26, 2024. I just got this video on my YT feed. I have been subscribed for a while to your channel. Good job advocating for our beloved friend, Elena. Thank you for the reminder of where our thoughts and actions should and shouldn’t be. No doubt I can do some more inner child work on myself. Your various videos on breaking contracts, protecting ourselves on all levels, and your many experiences with benevolent and regressive beings, and demonic entities has been a great help to me. I’m not alone anymore. Bless you and keep safe in the constant love of our Source and Earthly Mother. Your grateful follower. 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
FANTASTIC INTERVIEW! 👏🏼👏🏼 I remember watching Claire and Marks story on the show The Aftermath I had tears in my eyes so sad I’m very happy they got out of this ridiculous and abusive cult Love Claire love U Andrew Gold sending ❤ from Canada 🇨🇦
Dearest Claire & Her family, so proud of you for your resilience & helping. Much love from Kate in Australia
Claire is such an amazing, strong, inteligent and whole-hearted woman that it's just mind blowing. Among all great things she does, she still has been helping all these people who are trying to escape this cult. I've read Marc's book and cannot wait to read hers. You did it again, Andrew! Thank you ❤
HI, OSA! Today is a great day to start a new life. The Aftermath Foundation can help you now!
Yes, You can stop being a criminal today, and for only $0 dollars! You are on a sinking ship, anyway. Wake up!
Fantastic interview Andrew I really appreciate your skill and tact in all your videos. You allow people to speak without constant interruptions and ask profound questions that keep it moving along at a nice pace. Claire is such an inspiring person and it’s amazing that after a lifetime of indoctrination she managed to not only escape but to help others who struggle in leaving. Hip hip hooray to the both of you!
What a strong, brave, intelligent and capable woman Claire is. She’s an inspiration to people regardless of if they’re Scientologists or not. I truly enjoy watching her and I support everything she’s doing now with SPTV and everything else.
This woman is amazing
Andrew - thank you for interviewing Claire. We just love her dearly.
Claire - thank you for being open and honest in telling your story. It cannot be easy to speak about Scientology so often. You have helped so many people, it’s incredible. I especially love hearing your perspective shift after becoming a mother - absolutely gut-reaching.
You’ve done everything you can possibly do from the “outside,” and hopefully one day your mom will realize that and join you in your journey, together. Somewhere, deep down, I sense that she knows that. She knows your safe, and she knows you are happy. Sending so much love your way. ❤
Andrew, once again you’ve shown such compassion and empathy. Just one of the reasons I love watching your CZcams channel! Congrats on a fabulous podcast!
Thank you Andrew for this interview ❤
Great interview! Thanks so much Andrew and Claire!
Love Claire! Team Claire Bear here 🐻💓
Thanks Andrew, for having her on your channel to talk about even more of her life. Looking forward to her book! - Saskia Kidd
Hearing Claire story is heartbreaking. I am a wife and a mother I can't imagine how her family could just turn their backs on their own children. Scientology has destroyed so many amazing people v/ families. Thank you for speaking up and helping others through the Aftermath foundation. Claire you are such a loving , caring and compassionate person. May you and Andrew know how appreciated you are. I am an ex-Mormon and can relate to how difficult it can be to walk away knowing that you have to do it. Religion and cults aren't always what they appear to be. Your courage is very admirable. Thank you for your dedication to such a deserving cause.
Well, not sure where my latest comment went, but just wanted to thank you, Andrew, for interviewing our beloved Clairebear! 💕 Bless her heart, she and Marc went through hell, and not only survived, but thrived!
Bless all who are still stuck in the Mind Prison of Scientology. I pray daily for their freedom. 💕🙏
I love listening to 'escapes' because there are many people in really difficult 'shituations' not necessarily 'cults' who are thinking their way out of or trying to get free of difficult situations. It gives one courage. It's almost like a thriller, and I have personal experience of 'escaping' certain narcissistic family members. However once you've escaped you are left to your own devices to pick up the pieces of your life. It's also such a difficult thing to explain to others.
I knew this would be tough to hear, so I waited a couple of weeks. Somehow, I knew that child SA would be in there somewhere, and I have to be cautious for my mental health.
The man who assaulted me was a public school teacher. He was finally arrested, tried, and sent to prison, but only after several children had been harmed.
My Catholic Christian faith has helped me throughout my life, and I’m glad that child abuse is widely recognized as something that happens in every church (including mine) and in every school system, and just about every place that children frequent. The fact that we now have laws that require the reporting of either known or suspected child abuse to police by educators and health care professionals and religious “confessors” and others in professions where an adult might be in a position to find out about it is a great step forward.
It’s extremely difficult to understand or to accept that there are adults in the Cult of Scientology who know about children being abused, and who do nothing about it in terms of our common justice system. Those adults had better wake up,
because non Scientologists won’t be putting up with this heinous behavior. And you can bet, if a person is doing this within your cult, they won’t miss an opportunity to do it to children outside of it, as Claire has described. So if you keep wanting to call some of your members “priests” or religious “counselors”, you had better keep them informed about their responsibilities, because they can now be charged, too, if they fail to contact authorities.
God bless you Claire! You and your husband and Andrew and Aaron and Chris and several others now are truly offering hope, support, and information for those escaping Scientology. I’m sure that this is very difficult for you sometimes, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and even physically, as I know that the stress involved can often be a lot to deal with.
Thank you to all of you. What you are doing is important!
Don’t worry, Andrew! I predict you are going to have a long and beautiful life with family and friends beside you!
Stories about young Claire always bring tears to my eyes. I want to save her. She and her husband Marc have talked about a lot of this on their channel.
Wow, her stories are so powerful. When I was in high school, there were rumors of certain teacher and students. Not long after I left he ended up being arrested for such things. Smh
OMGOSH been waiting for this. Fantastic!
Andrew, Great interview! I truly admire Claire!! Keep it up exposing Scientology!!
she is such an incredibly intelligent woman, so glad she is not wasting away in that cult any more
Good score, Andrew. 🙋🏻♀️
There is no comparison between Scientology and Catholicism.
Except for the auditing part where priests work on guilt, right? Ok, they don’t archive it & do worse, but you get my drift…
Claire, you brought me to tears, with your escape, and meeting up with Mark at the end of the ordeal.
Just so beautiful. Thankyou for sharing your story. 😊😊😊
Really!!! I am surprised you removed my comment. I absolutely love Claire, and am a true Claire Bear 🐻. I cry for the little girl, all the way until she escaped. I’m so looking forward to watching this on replay as it will start 4am here in Melbourne.
Another Melbourne insomniac here
CZcams randomly glitches and removes comments. It has happened to me many times. Nothing to do with this channel or the host
If you posted a link YT removes the comment. And sometimes it's just gremlins (thetans) in the system.
@@heartshapedisle hi Tassie neighbour 😁 it was actually that I asked Andrew if he could have found a less flattering picture of Claire, as I thought it was pretty horrible of our Beautiful Claire Bear. I stated that she is so beautiful inside and out and that the thumbnail didn’t do her justice 🙄
Such an awesome lady! More from Clare pls!
She's such a lovely woman. All these ex-Scientologist we are familiar with now have such magnetic personalities. They have so much if my respect for speaking out and being so raw and honest. X
Really enjoy your interviews. You let the interviewee speak without interruption, just inputting enough to keep things rolling and on point. Many famous interviewers could learn something from you. Great interview skills.
Listening again. Claire you're so well spoken, insightful and intelligent. It is a pleasure to listen to you speak about these matters.
Loved this! Thank you Andrew! Love to Claire 😊
Not that I’m surprised but I really enjoyed this interview with you Claire! Thank you Andrew
Wow!! This is an incredible story!! I am so happy for Claire and her husband to have escaped that evil madness!!
Claire's story is so heartbreaking. Trying to get through Marc's book and that's heart wrenching!!! Love those Headleys!!! Proud to be an Edgehog!!
The fact that a verdict hasn't been reached yet for Danny Masterson is terrifying. I don't know how they can't look at the facts and not just convict him. I didn't think it would take this many days. Come on Mrs and Mr jurors.
I'm a bit separated from my family (cuz I'm in a different country), and i can feel quite depressed, but I'm getting courage to be strong, because if Claire can continue, i can too! Thank you to both of you, and to all those fighting for the liberation of those still stuck there ❤
Had to watch on replay. FANTASTIC interview 😊😊❤❤
I am in tears Andrew, what an incredible interview with an amazing cult survivor. I am so sorry for what Ms. Headley endured and thankful she is using her voice to help all cult survivors. Brilliant Andrew, thank you for having her on 💕
Really loved this video, I hope you do more with Claire 💖
I've never been a scientologist or known one personally, but I read Marc's book many years ago and their story is just so touching and compelling. Great interview! I can't wait for Claire's book.
Go Claire!
I cannot hear Claire's story without crying . What a lovely person, what a heartbreak because of that cult.
I love Claire (and her hubby) when they were in Leah Remini’s show. Thank you for inviting her for a chat. It is simply heartbreaking to hear her story as im sure it mirrors a lot of stories in Scientology. She is so knowledgeable about the whole subject too so i love listening to her.
So excited!!
I am looking forward to her book coming out. I hope she narrates the audiobook herself.
I love listening to her not being interrupted or cut off by Mark. Sorry, not sorry Mark 😅.
Clair is a gem!
Great questions 👌