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- Elisa Au, a three-time World Karate Federation world karate champion, rates 11 karate scenes in movies and shows for realism. She is one of several women poised to represent Team USA at the 2021 Tokyo Olympics.
Au rates the realism of karate movies such as "The Karate Kid" (1984) and "Ip Man 4: The Finale" (2019). She breaks down the martial art prowess of stars such as Jean-Claude Van Damme in "Bloodsport" (1988), Ralph Macchio and William Zabka in "Cobra Kai" (2021), and Michael Jai White in "Blood and Bone" (2009). She also looks at television shows such as "The Office" (2005) as well as the films "Street Fighter: Assassin's Fist" (2014), "The Next Karate Kid" (1994), "Black Belt" (2007), and "Karate Girl" (2011). Au rates the realism of kicks, punches, and throws, along with stance, movement, and tactics.
Season 3 of "Cobra Kai" was released on Netflix on January 1, 2021
Find out more about Elisa here:
/ elisaaukarate
www.elisaau.com/
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Karate World Champion Rates 11 Karate Scenes In Movies And TV | How Real Is It? - Jak na to + styl
I love how she is always stressing the difference between sports karate tradicional karate and karate applied to a street fight because those are actually really different
Agreed! A lot of people don't understand that all competitive martial arts adapt to their rules. This is even true of MMA.
Hate to spoil it for you buddy, but karate doesn’t work in a street fight either.
@@WillJM81280 that s not what i said what i meant was that its a good thing that the woman on the video made that distinction. And besides obviously if someone finds themselves in the middle of a street fight they wont respond by performing a kata or something but of course it makes a difference if you have martial arts knowledge. There are some simple things that karate practictioners instinctivly do like knowing how to close your fist properly even that could be of help if the situation ever arrives (i say that because i have seen a lot of people who cant even close their fist right before throwing a punch and end up hurting their thumbs or whrist and for someone who has experience with martial arts those things come naturally)
@@beatrizfroufe2247 I would also say co-ordination/timing plays a part. Any martial art inducing karate, MMA etc depends on how and what you train for. In a "street fight" the opponent is likely to have no experience at all.
A common comment that annoys me a lot, is "there are no rules on the street." There are. They're called laws. Not every street fight is life and death. What ever happens, I don't want to go to prison.
@@WillJM81280 well Wonderboy would beg to differ....
Love how she pointed everything wrong and didn't hold back on her ratings, but still was nice and funny about it.
Why would she hold back? It's not like she's offending anyone
@@sep2474 A lot of the reviewers on this series don't "hold back" but they also don't give real ratings. Like, the reviewer will say, "This one tiny thing was accurate but everything else was wrong. 10/10!" Elisa was truly committed to give a realism rating that looked at the whole video. At least, that's what I liked about her style: She was having fun but also was committed to actually ranking the videos on realism.
Exept the last clip hina tobimatsu who she says dosnt know anything about karate and Can't punch ect, is infact a bonafide black belt
@@karazor-el9596 well to be fair the movie stretches this out into unrealism so from her perspective it would look that way
@@TannerHinzeFitness unrealism? It's her doing everything no stunt double no cgi
The actor in the white gi for "Black Belt" is actually Sensei Tatsuya Naka. He is a 7th dan black belt in Shotokan Karate and one of the chief instructors at the Japanese Karate Association (JKA). He's part of an awesome CZcams Karate channel, Kuro-Obi World. Glad to see that Elisa recognized that real Karate talent and rated the movie a 10! Great job!
Kuro Obi is an amazing movie, I highly recommend it to anyone that hasn't seen it
He is a great technician in Karate. Beautiful technique
Does she not understand that their are other karate styles besides Shotokan?
The guy in the black, I believe, is Fuyuhiko Nishi who is the guy who produces the Kuro-Obi World videos. IMDB also lists him as both production planner and martial arts choreographer of the film.
Yes... You could see the karate in his moves. Pure karate.
I’M SO HAPPY TO SEE HER ON THIS VIDEO!!! She won her first world championship when I was training karate over 10 years ago. I remember her because I had a poster of her on my bedroom wall and the Male world champion who were affiliated with my school. Im gonna be cheering for her in Tokyo.
As someone who has fenced for 20 years and has never watched a minute of sports karate before this, I thought her fencing comparison was spot on. I was watching the competitors bounce...and while we don't quite do as much as we did like 15 years ago (general consensus at the international level seemed to be that while the bouncing did help disguise your movement, the added vulnerability of getting caught mid bounce wasn't worth it), it's certainly within the same ball-park.
Also, as she said for karate, distance is absolutely king in fencing. I was taught that there's a line that divides two fencers. Once this line is crossed, either fencer can launch an attack and be likely to score. So the trick for our distance was to either 1. Mislead your opponent into thinking that s/he had passed that line and launch an attack that would not hit (to facilitate your own follow up action to score) or 2. Misdirecting your opponent into believing they *haven't* passed the line while they have, which would then allow you to attack the opponent in turn.
Pretty cool stuff in the video. I guess martial arts is martial arts...whether you're in Europe or Japan and whether or not you're using a "sword" or your own body.
I hope you guys do a fencing video. Almost every fencing scene in movies/TV shows is absolutely attrocious--like 2/10--at least in turns of Olympic fencing.
Distance is everything. If you do not understand positioning you do not know the basics of martial arts. Because if you´re not positioned correctly then all of your attacks will miss or be dodged/countered easily. One could argue that Katas are good for muscle memory, but sparring is the only thing that will make you understand how the real thing might play out. Because to everything you do there is a reaction from your opponent, which ties in to your examples of misleading and misdirecting. I bet "intelligent fighter" sounds crazy to most people, but there are generally lots of mind games going into it.
I can’t believe the office got a 10/10 I love it 😂,thank you so much for doing this I really hope you win your next competition
The office sucks balls
@@TinoT84 yo mama
@@fe2890 you couldn't handle my moma. I do hear that yours is well known and easily accessible
I trained sport karate for like 10-11 years and my sensei explained to me the "kiai" in a physical type of way. She told me that I must "yell" every time I punch/kick, not only so that I can score points, but to release the air from my lungs, so that If I get a counter punch I don't get the air blown from me.
Just as I side note, but she is spot on, on everything. Brings back sweet memories :)
It definitely helps, but an exhale would suffice. I think yelling adds more to encouragement.
It also helps to get more energy out of the punch. All fighting styles teach you to exhale while punching or kicking, just to get that extra energy out, but kiai will get you there faster, allowing for those power punches Karate is known for.
Thai Kwando is known for its powerful kicks, and you can hear practitioners kiai when they kick as well.
Can´t remember if it was Ramsey Dewey who said it, but you are in control of your exhaling so use it wisely. The body will take care of the inhaling so don´t worry too much about that.
@vasilmilchev9362 I only was trained in judo, got up to a brown belt and then stopped because I tore my ACL and then my dad said he wasn't paying anymore so I decided to not go to it.
I was trained by my dad who was a brown belt in both judo and Taekwondo, and a 1st dan (Shodan) black belt in Kyokushin karate, but instead of going for his black belt in judo, he decided not to in order to focus on his job and helping raise his kids.
So, when I was picked on, and going through judo training, I got into a fight at school with a bully.
This bully had real training as well, but his grappling was not nearly as good as mine, and as such, I grabbed him and threw him, but before that, he got quite a few good shots in on me.
Fun fact about Karate Girl: Rina Takeda, the actress seen in the main role, is actually a Shorin Ryu Karate black belt... but almost nothing in the film is actually karate...
probably not her choice which is sad
@@iviano1149 Yeah because I've seen her in other films, and I think she did a video with Kuro Obi world, and she is legit
The "shorin ryu" style is very similar to the technique of kung fu
When I was 16 and taking Judo, I finally beat an opponent I could never defeat by using The Crane. I stuck my hands and foot up in the air in the Crane position, he burst out laughing and I tackled him. :-)
When "The Office" is the most accurate karate 'film' shown. 😂
Regarding The Karate Kid - my understanding is that, in the 70's and early 80's, there was a LOT less padding. My martial arts instructor (Arnis, but he also teaches TKD) has lots of stories about some fairly seriously injury-causing incidents during his high school days. So while it's certianly a cinematic fight scene, I'd guess it's not QUITE as unrealistic as it would be in a more modern movie.
Same, I was working recently for a dude who started training of Karate in 80's when they became popular in Central Europe and damn, seems like half of his group had serious injuries, including him. His right leg is in such serious condition that his doctor already told him that in 4-5 years amputation is a huge possibility.
Read stories and testimonials about guys like Nick Cerio when he trained under William Chow in Hawaii. He spoke, at length, at how brutal the training regimens were, and how they would "test" their technique by going to the local bars and picking fights to see what worked and what didn't.
VERY different times.
@@shawnoconnor6785 - I have a friend that trained (early 2000's) in a school that had a similar training methodology - punching until your knuckles bled, zero tolerance for deviance, kicking steel posts until you couldn't walk, 2-week-long seminars in the summer for 10+ hours a day, etc.
My friend learned later that they were the shunned splinter group of a larger organization - ie, THEY were the black-gi wearing bad guys. The phrase "are we the baddies?" turned out to be "YES. Yes, you are."
Yep. In the 60s-80s, the protective equipment used was usually just mouthguard and cup.
When I competed in the 2010s, I wore a full kit of protective gear, head hands and feet.
Depending on federation, even today there might be little in the way of protective equipment. All we use are light padded gloves and mouth guards, and up to ~5 years ago the gloves were just thin leather (to avoid cuts I guess, because sure as hell they did nothing to help with blows). It is actually not that bad if the competitors actually hold their blows like they are supposed to, the most I've personally seen is broken noses (the new padded gloves don't really avoid that, but the number might have gone down) and a few broken toes (again, if you kick while the other guy is coming and hit is knee there's little to do).
If you are supposed to actually land your stuff then yeah, I can see a lot more gear being necessary.
Fun Fact about Ryu & Ken from the Street Fighter franchise: both character's designs are inspired by real-life Karatekas.
Ryu is inspired by Grandmaster Mas Oyama, the founder of Kyokushin Karate and Ken is inspired by legendary US full-contact Karate/Kickbox champion, Joe Lewis.
Also Joe Lewis like most American Karateka in the old days did fight sideways until he started kickboxing. Bill Wallace always fought in a side ways stance though.
@@killaben85 Bruce Lee also favoured the sideways stance, which he took from fencing, for better balance.
@@doublep1980 well yes but his sideways stance was different. Joe Lewis actually adopted that stance as well since he and Bruce used to train together.
FACTS
These "How Real Is It?" videos have pros, but some of them lose their train if throught and begin talking about something irrelevant to the scene. I love the fact that she stuck to karate and just karate. Because in many scenes shown taekwondo and judo were very realistic and perfectly executed.
"they look like jumping beans" relatable! I used to spar a lot, and being light on your feet is super important, great video!
From my limited experience, you could run your tank empty just staying "light on your feet". I would be winded before I ever threw an attack.
"Why is the referee there if he's not going to call poor sportsmanship?"
Oh, trust me...that's the LEAST unrealistic thing in Bloodsport...😄
Yep. That is the least unrealistic thing in Bloodsport.
Hahahahahaha yeah, the entire thing was made up
I’d like a Kyokushin fighter to critique some Karate moves. Their matches are exciting to watch.
Me too, I don’t really like point based sparring...
"Black Belt" (2007)
Me: this is a real karate!
She: this is a real karate!
Me: this is a real karate!!!!
Yes I thought that one was very good.
The first set of sound in "Black belt" feel so real like it's come from the real scene.
As a 3rd degree black belt in Teakwando you definitely kiap when sparing. The purpose is to clench your diaphragm to A. scare/confuse your aponent and B. it can increase the power of your move if used properly
I studied with ATA TKD and like you we always kiai and you forgot one other reason atleast one that was taught to us it also helps you to remember to breathe which is literally 90% of the fight crazy thing about TKD its actually very useful in boxing as far as stance and movement goes
You can't even spell your own technique right.
A few people have mentioned kiai, but one thing I haven't seen mentioned: it's a good tool in training for making sure people aren't holding their breath because they're concentrating too much on body movements and direction. It's a surprisingly common problem in beginners!
A second good reason to kiai is to startle the opponent, especially by shouting on a feint (which plays up the importance of the move and encourages the opponent to commit to a block against it) or just before a strike. You would be surprised just how a spirited shout can put someone off-balance, or delay them, allowing you to establish dominance and control the rhythm of the fight.
And, as ethical martial artists learn, the fighting skills learned are meant for self-defense. Which means if you're attacked, and you fight back loudly with kiai, you're more likely to attract attention from others whose presence might make the aggressor self-conscious and decide to leave you alone so he doesn't get in trouble, or even attract some armed authority who can step in and stop the aggression.
There are many things we can learn about and think about deeply :)
I actually did mention lol but yeah I was thinking the same thing because breathing is literally 90% of the fight
I see Street Fighter Assassins Fist I instantly give it a 10/10. So many memories man :') always tear up a bit.
The Greatest live action movie adaptation
@@isaacyeon6334 Straight facts
Most martial arts movies (especially the ones from the 80's and 90's) get ruined the second you focus on what the bad guys are doing. The last clip on here is exactly what I'm talking about.
From what I've gathered the fancy flying kicks are best left for the movies.
or for fun and productive training!
Tell that to any high level practitioner of taekwodno.
Agree and for competitions. Real life situations you can’t do all that. It’s best to keep it simple.
Check out shotokan karate. Flying kicks end fights
A 6'2" 200 lbs guy who launched himself into the air with a jump roundhouse kick in a match is not to be underestimated. The intimidation factor is real.
I agree with her but she did say Taekwondo doesn’t yell. I’ve studied Taekwondo for 20 years and we always yell. It adds power and gets the air out.
That’s true
True a lot of body movement comes from the breath first
How can a so-called "expert" get something as basic as this so wrong. The "Kee-ya" is a huge part of Tae Kwon Do. Her discipline is obviously just competiton Karate and nothing else. That's why they should have gotten a true Mixed Martial Artist for this breakdown instead of someone who is obviously closed off in her knowledge. That's pretty embarrassing to get something like this so wrong.
Terry silver assahhhhhh assahhhhhh aaaSSAHHHHHH!!!😂
i did taekwondo since i was 6... really depends on your coach
I love your comments on the movies! I was cracking up the whole time. "using them as a springboard". Thank you for making this rating video.
That last clip, Karate Girl, her punches were more Wing Chun Kung Fu than they were karate.
The real short, rapid flurry to the center line, designed to open up an enemy's defense and break him down is a lot closer to what Bruce would do than what Chuck would do.
Actually isshin ryu is known for using the same type of punch as wing chun.
It also helps if all your opponents (1) step up against you one by one instead of attacking all at once, (2) don't actually attack or block, and (3) actually stage themselves up as springboards :P
Never did Olympic style Karate. I did the Naska league when I was young. There are some big differences in both styles. Not the biggest fan of Olympic style but super glad the art is finally being represented in the Olympics and I hope you take home the gold.
No disrespect, but it was really funny when she called Ip Man "the kung fu guy" hahaha
? wing chun is kung fu
@@whybro3516 indeed, but that's not the point. It's like calling Muhammad Ali "the boxing guy", or Michael Jordan "the basketball guy".
@@CainhuPenido Not really. Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan were actually really good at their sport; arguable the best of all time at it. There's nothing about Ip Man that was especially spectacular except the mythology that's been built around him. And his martial art is actually garbage with very few practical applications.
@@seraphinaaizen6278 bro, chill out. Whether he is THE BEST at kung fu or not, whether he is very good at it or not, he still is very famous because of it. He was the master/mentor of Bruce Lee and there are SEVEN movies about him. So regardless of his fighting technique and efficiency or whatever, calling him "the kung fu guy" is kinda funny.
@@seraphinaaizen6278 U do know that the movie IP Man is actually a pretty close account to what actually happened? He really did kick them 10 Karatekas into the ground.
I trained in tai kwon do for a lot of years and we learned to "kiah" as well when we land a hit. My trainer explained that it helps keep your energy up and the vocal component will encourage you to hit harder and make you less afraid. Like a way of psyching yourself up every time you hit.
I am glad she dissed all that Miyagi crap. Cobra Kai is the way!
loool
Cobra Kai never dies!
Indeed
This is the way
I would love to see more videos with this lady!
She's awesome :)
as a fencer i see so many moves that are just like ours and notice all the weird flourishes from "flashy" moves, too. glad you brought up the similarities early on.
awesome analysis of these fight scenes
Would be nice to see her back rating more martial arts moves.
So, she's a world champion, so I won't even say she's wrong on several things, because I know I'll get asked "who are you to correct a world champion?", but that being said... the first thing you have to understand is that she's talking from a sports karate perspective. There are a lot of different karate fighting modes, from sport karate which in my opinion is the weakest form of karate all the way up to JKA, Kyokushin and Karate in full contact including MMA like UFC. So after that intro, this is what I think is wrong with this video: hook punches, while uncommon and inexistent in sports karate, do exist in other karate competitions like Kyokushin and full contact karate and even some traditional styles, karate kid and cobra kai tournament are not all karate (even the story admits there is a lot of tangsoodo), those are mixed styles tournaments which usually have their own rules, they don't follow WKF rules which she wrongfully presents as universally accepted in karate, which is not the case, even scoring and scoring areas change also protective gear requirements. Karate IS about a single blow... at least that's the philosophy, the spirit and that's why we train so much in makiwara and kotekitai and other body strength training, specially in okinawan and old school karate, non-contact karate does not exist, the technical term is "McDojo". True karate focuses on deadly blows. Not to mean that for some supernatural reason you'll win a fight with a single punch, but the spirit when training and fighting is "punch to kill or get killed" touch karate is essentially a sport and focuses on speed only and touching... very far from the true spirit of karate. Sports karate and traditional karate, full contact karate are very different. Karate is for long range??? (laughing in korean and thai) Sports karate is the only one that is terrible for short range fighting. If you've ever been in a fight in real life you know that once you have to defend yourself is usually close range combat. So all in all, I think her views reflect that she only sees from the sports karate perspective, which is fair, but misleading... so it is not correct to take these opinions as karate... that's way too broad. I'm not talking about her opinions on the movies, I'm talking about her arguments on karate.
I practiced tae Kwon do and we always yelled. Don’t know where her experience on us not yelling comes from. We do to help with using our core and exhaling for more power in our movements like with power or weight lifting.
Yea idk why she would say that tkd doesn't use kihap. My master was 6th Dan tkd and 10dan hapkido and former korean national team and kihap one of the first things you learn. I think her commentary was more scripted. Especially given that tkd came first and much of karate is styled from tkd.
Ahhhhhhh!
I practised Kyokushin Kai for a couple of years and we were told why it'd be better to yell, but wasn't a necessity, we weren't punished for not yelling. When we were on tournaments, some people yelled. It was kinda funny, but we knew what's up.
Exhales on hitting and getting hit, though, were a must. Those really made a difference and whenever we were sparring with new people, we always were telling them them to intensively exhale.
Cobra Kai is inspired (clearly altered to look cool on film) by Tang Soo Do and Miyagi Do is inspired by Goju Ryu.
shito ryu, not goju
Chojun Miyagi, from Okinawa, is the founder of Goju Ryu.
Guys it's a mix of both. The crane kick is taken from shito ryu but the rest is taken from Goju Ryu
I loved this and Elisa Au is a really insightful and witty commentator. Please bring her back for more movies! Gotta do Bruce Lee vs Chuck Norris.
This is so cool ... The genuine article commenting on what is portrayed on TV and movies
i missed Best of the Best.. Great explantion!!
In the 80s when the movie was taking place we didn't have much protection equipment :)
I wonder what she thinks of Raymond Daniels. Raymond Daniels is a point Karate specialist, but he's also trained other striking disciplines. Anyway, he is a kickboxer and his style is mostly point Karate based yet he has done what was thought impossible he's used his point Karate style to demolish some really talented kickboxers and Thai boxers. It's amazing and has to be seen.
In fighting games, the distance thing she talks about is called “footsies”, and it’s exactly as she described. Trying to put the opponent at the perfect distance for one of your moves to land or one of their moves to barely miss, giving you an opportunity to counter. So if you watch high level fighting game matches, a lot of times it’s just people moving back and forth over and over until they find that sweet spot.
"We don't use karate chops"
Okinawan practitioners: We joke to you?
It's like she doesn't even train Karate, wtf
@@joatanpereira4272 do you do karate lmao
@@ryanu1046 yes, traditional
well, she didn't say nobody uses karate chops, the people she fought against probably don't use, so that is the "we", her and other competitors
She’s referring to WKF competition rules regarding not using chops 🙄
I was always told the reason we kia is not just to bring out your fighting spirit but also incase you get countered and punched in the stomach they cant knock the air out of you
Wished she'd looked at the fight in Fearless between Jet Li representing wushu and the Japanese fighter representing karate.
I studied Tai Kwon Do when I was a kid for about 4 years. I had to stop when I was about 11 years old because the company that my dad worked for dropped it from their health plan so my parents had to start paying the full price of $35 a week. It sucked, too, because I was really into it and I had made it to green belt and my next test would've been for the blue belt. I haven't practiced it since then so I don't remember a whole lot of it, but one thing I do remember is our teacher having us do the Kiai.
love cobra kai!! cant wait for s4
Elisa Au is a great teacher. Her explanations are thorough, she is not overly judgmental, and she contextualizes her critique fairly.
She may be but do you think she could handle herself in a street fight! As that she's not really trying to hurt the people she kicks
I took a more old-school version of Tae-Kwon-Do, when I was a kid,and we did the equivalent of "ki-yai", "kya!" Which seemed to get phased out in the 80s. I remember walking into the dojang and hearing the floor rumbling. We would just sit in the corner and watch Jae Soon Park (one of the highest decorated body guards for the president of S. KOREA) and his nephew go back and forth sparring. Big concrete building with a woodworking shop to make boards. Master park was much more about fists and getting on the inside. Master Kim was much more into kicks and conditioning. Glad I had them both as teachers.
I love how she gives respect to Kung fu also, very good episode!😁😁😁😁
Even normal fights, shouting gives you boost to fight your enemies. It's called War Cry. I always use it to ran away from the stray dogs on our street.
I really liked the moments where she’s explaining that fists or hand position, or using the heel in round kicks are often totally wrong. She stopped short of saying the the girl in ‘the next karate kid’ would’ve broken her wrists, but she would have. Great demystifying of many karate scenes!
Theres a BIG difference between "SPORT" KARATE and REAL KARATE.
Olympic and traditional
Yes, finally someone said it
Yeah sport karate is better...
@@jackmcd277 better at what? They're different. Are apples better than oranges?
Practice both
Loved the commintary. And good luck at the Olympics! Hope you get gold!
11:39 You underestimate the power of Miyagi-Do karate!
Very fun to watch Elisa's critiques. I always wondered why Hollywood wouldn't want to consort with a REAL fighter of whatever technique. Because I get flashy, but real effectiveness is so much better looking to me. I mean, the movies that are authentic actually tend to do the best. Most recent is John Wick. So, if you're going to represent Karate specifically, get someone that knows it to help out. Even with the flashy! LOL
Really enjoyed this 👍🏾
2:20 I just wanna say that in kyokushin style karate..... We do pose before beginning.
I was going to say the same, except that then she goes on to say that they go into kumite dachi/fighting stance after the ref calls it - which is how it works in kyokushin too. We stand in fudo dachi facing each other, and go to kumite dachi when the ref calls it. I think she meant that we/they don't go straight to a kumite stance the moment we walk up to the line.
Good assessment. When we watched Cobra Kai se 1 finale for the 1st time we noticed that no one had any gear on. + they all wore black belts out of nowhere. How did the Miyagi-Do kid who just showed up know that he had to go online and order himself a black belt?
I've often questioned the actual effectiveness of "sports karate". I once got into a fight with a guy who was a competition winner some form of karate and none of his punches or kicks actually hurt enough to cause me any damage. The fight ended when I powered through a hit and headbutted him on the nose. It just didn't seem like he could actually fight even though he'd been training all his life (supposedly).
I've never been able to tell/understand the various differences in Karate styles, so I hope me saying "some form of karate" isn't too offensive or anything. Also to my limited knowledge it wasn't any major competitions he'd won, but I don't know what level you'd call it. He was supposedly black belt, that's about all I know.
As a black belt myself in two styles of karate, I can totally see that being the case. Most karate schools seem to give little in the way of realistic fight training. No body conditioning, no close range attacks & defense, and only light contact point sparring. No wonder karate has lost its edge.
Power control from modern style will ruin you in a real fight believe I know which but you can learn valuable lesson to build a good foundation I still train there but I've also moved on to more full contact sports like boxing and mma yes martial arts is great and actually very crucial but you also need to be able to take a real hit
It's a sport not a fight
Yes! I was wondering if someone would do this!!!
TaeKwon Do learns about yelling right off the bat. It is part of the theory of power and is tested on by yellow belt. No TaeKwon Do practitioner would question a yell.
I need to watch Black Belt. The first thing that struck me with that scene was the sounds. It does not sound like they added effects in post, that sounded like they just picked up the sounds of the hits straight from the scene.
Never seen that done in a fighting film before.
Am I the only person that gets annoyed when people just call it karate. I mean there are so many different styles and forms of karate for example my style with is kyokushinkai karate and shotokan . And in my style there are techniques that are for close range e.g shita tsuki
that's on you tho. For example, if you now nothing about videogames, I don't care if you call Call of Duty a game instead of a shooter. Everyone ignores most things because there's just so many things to know. Why would the average person know about all the different styles of karate?
I agree with the root of your point. Yes, it bugs me too when any martial art is generalized as karate. You mention variations of karate, and for those I'll let the generalization pass. Kung fu or tai kwan do, for instance, are not karate. They aren't even created from Japanese culture. One is Chinese and one is Korean. Not to mention all of the other styles from other countries not called Japan.
At the same time, very often in these films, what they will address as "karate" on-screen usually really isn't. It tends to bear more in common with the generalist melange that is MMA, or might even resemble more tae-kwon-do or muay thai. For instance, a lot of what was going on in Bloodsport read a lot more like American kickboxing, or muay thai than it did karate, which is unsurprising given Van Damme is trained in both, in addition to shotokan and tae-kwon-do. The preponderance of spinning, flourishing kicks seen in many of these clips also lead one to think more of tae-kwon-do, while the close-range fighting often looked a lot more like muay thai than anything else, given the use of elbows, forearms, and hands to strike.
In film, "karate" is just as often a "buzzword." Casual viewers often don't know what makes up "judo" or "jiujitsu," or any other singular martial art, but have heard of "karate," "kickboxing," or "kung fu," and have built up a specific image through the media of what those are. So, while "kung fu" in Hollywood is that martial art that people think of as either "Bruce Lee's style" or as that kind of swirly movement style that might even be named after animals, and "kickboxing" is anything that punches like Rocky Balboa while also kicking, "karate" is usually a conglomeration of everything else. It might actually be Brazilian jiujitsu or kenpo or kajukenbo, but Hollywood isn't going to use the proper name when they can just lump it under the common names people will understand.
It's no different, really, than a number of things films do for the sake of simplifying it for their viewership. I could go on a number of tangents about inaccuracies of medieval weapons and armor in film, the absurdity Hollywood and fantasy media in general has created about archery being "for women and other fragile characters," and a whole lot of other things that are used to convey things simply to an audience who might not know the errors committed...
@@markbrowning4334 To be fair karate comes from Okinawan origin(with the style being based off of Chinese martial arts).
@@michaelterrell5061 that is true
I'm a Israeli Black Belt in WC Shotokan since July 2000 and I approve this video!
BTW, in the 80's and most of the 90's we used to spar with very thinly padded white gloves (about 1/2") and later also with slightly thicker shin/foot pads. that was before those godawful massive padded blue and red gloves where you can barely keep your hand straight as it is curved and thick - I like my hands as free as possible so I can block with my palm as God intended.
Oh, and a real life anecdote - on my Black Belt test one of my sparring partners really liked to do a flashy combination of Mae geri to Mawashi geri to Ura Mawashi geri. The first time I was almost caught by surprise as I barely blocked the last kick (a roundhouse kick in reverse, so it reaches your head from the opposite direction). But naturally I was ready when he tried that again - I closed distance fast between the 2nd and 3rd kick with a powerful Gyaku tsuki punch straight to his midriff that it's not possible to block in mid-kick-transition. After a while he tried it again, and I reacted the same. He spent the rest of the fight mostly standing there with no active attacks anymore, was to afraid to try anything (and I'm hardly an imposing physical presence). Moral of the story - Flashy kick combos are stupid!!!
I can hear my brother that is the karate movie buff saying the opposite on the rating lol 😂 great review by the way
I love the freeze at 6:20 when you can totally tell its Ralph Macchio's double
Fun video...But to be a bit nitpicky, you guys should specify differing types of karate, and specify her Olympic style...Because some of the things she was saying weren't Karate actually were, such as the leg kicks which are a staple Kyokushin Karate, or the Bladed/Sideways stance thing, which is incredibly common in Kempo and oldschool Point Karate.
Still overall, a great video.
i feel that the cobra kai series got inspired in the kyokushinkai karate style for the tournaments, since there is no protection used and it is full contact, and also the combatants start in a fighting stance not a neutral stance, and also the use of elbows is allowed.
The original Karate Kid has one of the greatest endings in 80’s cinema and the thought of Daniel-San hobbling around trying to punch Johnny would be 💩
Black Belt is an AMAZING movie! The BEST Karate movie made about Karate!
Kiai is basically like saying "UNO". Anyway I loved the vid, she's super badass, funny, nice and cute at the same time.
What i learned while taking Karate, If a girl says to hit her, and you hold back, she will hurt you.
As a female martial artist sometimes the only way to get some guys to train with you properly is to put in a few hard hits so they figure out quick that they better put effort in. It's Shitty but as with anything women often have to prove their worth before guys take them seriously, we don't get the automatic respect another guy does.
@@chocolate11193 Hey now, I don't respect anybody until they earn it.
Hate to break it to you, but most guys have to hold back. Men and women fight separately for a reason. You’ve seen too many movies if you think otherwise.
@@WillJM81280 On the professional level, on average yes, but that is certainly not to say a woman couldn't beat your ass.
@@Jexorz86 hahahahahahahahaha am average bar brawler would beat the absolute snot out of any woman fighter in the entire world and quite easily, in fact he could probably take on multiple world class female fighters at a time
This is really good reaction video, However you got to admit that if the other person is just standing there getting hit it is becase it is either too fast for them to respond or they are in pain or both
I love your content 💥💥💥
There are some more legit karate sparring techniques that they left out when she watched Blood and Bone such as the back fist feint to roundhouse kick.
That’s an illegal move?
I liked the fight scenes in that movie. Michael Jai White is incredible.
Pretty interesting ... but where is "Figher in the Wind" (2005 - Yang Yun-ho) ? Very nice biopic and good fight scenes ... i think :p
Thx anyway for this content :)
lo que sería bueno
es tener a alguien de WKF y alguien de una liga abierta que sea buena
porque en WKF tiene muchas restricciones de muchas técnicas
que cuando peleas en la calle es otra historia...
Sport karate videos I've seen they're arms are wide open leaving the solar plex wide open for either a punch or front kick a sideblade kick.
On that one with the 2 guys, 1 in a suit. She mentioned a roundhouse kick while the guy in the sweater was doing a double spin kick, that was not a roundhouse, at least from I was Trained on. A Roundhouse kick used the Top of the Foot (Think Chuck Norris), the spinning kick uses the bottom the foot, particularly the Heel, which is optimal.
I noticed that too. Looked like a spinning wheel or hook kick.
I spent almost every day as a yellow belt in taekwondo , yellow is when we could first start sparring in my class, doing pushups because I would always do the Bruce Lee/ Matrix move when you take a stances and wave... everytime our instructor would say ok stop, "hey Bruce" go do fifty push ups.
11:55 interestingly enough the crane kick is a legitimate technique in the style of karate 'Daniel-San' does in the movie (goju ryu) created by Chōjun Miyagi as he was trained originally in various Kung-Fu styles such as Shaolin Nam Pai Chuan and Fujian White Crane (Whooping Crane style) where the crane kick comes from in that style of karate. A lot of people think the history side of The Karate Kid is bullshit but in actual reality it's mostly true.
In the shotokan style I learned is called mae-geari aka front kick
@@matt1839 a crane kick and front kick are different a crane kick is more like a jumping front kick not a mae-geri
@@Tendog05 well, a modified jumping Mae-Geri. Yes I know the technique because I learned the kick in shotokan style u usually target 3 areas chin, diaphragm and groin. I’m a blue belt in shotokan karate
@@matt1839 yes i know but the point im making is that it is a goju ryu technique a real technique my dad is a black belt in shookokai and wado-ryu and i was told by him and many other people i know who do shotokan wado and many other styles that the crane kick is not in those styles
@@Tendog05 nice, how long ur dad’s black belt??
"you can tell she's not a martial artist" I mean, in the movie she learn karate in 3 days or something so...pretty realistic...
I was so happy when they showed black belt. (koro obi)
But I was so disappointed that they didn't show. Fighter in the wind. Which is inspired by one of the most important Figures of karate history (MAS OYAMA)
And one of the best martial arts movies of all time
1:08 - No, if I can chin him in the Talus, I could disable the foot!! :D
10:10 - Purple belt a novice!?! white, yellow, orange, green, blue, purple, red, brown, black - or at least it was when I did Karate (Shotokan Ryu), but that was nearly 30yrs ago!?!
8:20 the girl pinned in the corner, at around 8:30 I would have moved to the outside (Her right our down) to escape the corner and open more space to move. I say this as a defensive fighter who moves and dodges until I see an opening to exploit. All of my fights have been street or friendly sparring, but the concept still applies. "Never back yourself into a corner. Always have an escape plan."
That karate kid move was used by lyoto machida in ufc once...
Old school karate tournies didn’t use many pads back in ‘the day’.
Kyokushin karate, mouth guard, groin guard. I started in sport karate, mitts use to be different, but the rules were more or less the same.
I participated in karate tournaments in 2013 and 2014 and the only gear we had was the gloves and mouthguards. Granted this is in South Africa, but considering that most of our competitions are held under JFK standards I'm assuming some places actually allow no padding in fights.
Lyoto machida used the crane kick to KO randy couture in UFC 129 therefore the crane kick is effective and real 😌
Sure, but in reality it looks nothing like the way it's portrayed in Karate Kid. The real "crane kick" is just a jumping front kick.
Also... Back in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's (even earlier) we didn't use pads in class or competition.
I've heard that it was kind of brutal back in the day. I'd always heard that the Karate Kid made martial arts real popular, which is great. But the instructors weren't ready to handle the surplus of new, inexperienced students, so the structure of the class and how to properley run them was a little barbaric.
@@markbrowning4334 no martial arts got popularized when a movie called 5 Fingers of death was shown in theaters. Then Master Lee came and then it really blew up.
With proper teaching and proper guidance, no one got hurt back in that 70s and 80s when we trained with no pads.
Would have loved her take on "Best of the Best"
Theres only one man that can land a crane kick. Machida.
What about Silva under the tutelage of Sensei Seagal 🤣🤣🤣
The crane kick existed before karate kid
Nice 😀😀
I love Enter the Dragon, Best of the Best and Cobra Kai. They are good and entertaining
Was surprised and not surprised to not see Napoleon Dynamite scene with grand master Rex Kwon Do! At least we know now there’s nothing to critique about breaking the wrist and walking away
If you look at the office clip you can see Dwight wearing a Goju Ryu (an okinawan style of karate) patch on his gi.🥋
Would have loved to see her opinion on Tony Jaa in the ong bak movie underground fight scene.. a lot of elbows there XD
I am doing Viet-Vo-Dao its a self defending and Martial arts verry efficiant. And our pose in a fight is 100%like in 2:35 but not on in self defense situation.
One leg in the front to protect abdomen and other stuff. And the hands a bit crossed little bit so if sb punches from front there is no gap
I had not heard of this martial art before. just looked it up. Very interesting. Thank you.