What if modern Russia time traveled to 1941? Would it win against WW2 Germany?
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This video, chosen by our fans in December, tries to answer the following question: How would the modern Russia do if it somehow time traveled to June 22nd 1941, as Germany commenced its attack on Soviet Union? How would its fight go? Would it do better than the Soviet Union did? The video was mostly made before the events of February 24th 2022.
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heres ideas for other vids:
1. what if the modern 2022 US NAVY went up against the kriegsmarine and the IMPERIAL JAPANESE NAVY
2. what if the modern US ARMY fought in ww1 interwar WW2 and cold war
3. what if the modern 2022 RUSSIAN ARMY went up against Wehrmacht
4. what if the modern 2022 german army went up against RED ARMY
5. what if the modern british army fought in ww1 interwar ww2 and cold war
6. what if the modern 2022 royal navy went up against Kriegsmarine and the IMPERIAL JAPANESE NAVY
7. what if the modern 2022 french army fought in ww1 interwar ww2 and cold war
and also make a discord server for ideas and stuff
Modern Present day Germany in ww1 ww2 and cold war
modern day Estonia in the estonian war of independence
modern day russia in ww1 ww2 cold war
modern day america in ww1 ww2 cold war
and others set in an alternate timelines
Russia cant beat modern Ukraine.
but you think it has a chance against the superpower that is Nazi Germany.
Western cute people and their propaganda networks say there is no Nazi in Ukrain.
Yet there is Azov.
Yet Azov is fully supported Govt.
And millions and millions of russian were killed by nazi in WW3. They know the pain and fear of nazi.
So, the truth is Russia has legitimate security concern.
No matter how many propaganda you do, this is what I see as an third person to both west and russia.
Imagine german special force manages to capture modern russian "wonderweapon", then their scientist try to reverse engineer it. Suddenly, they realized they can't comprehend microchip
And that "JĂŒdische Physik" was right.
Do they not believe Jewish physic?
@@ymj4256 they donât, they fired all their Jewish scientists.
@@freeeggs3811
Missed the opportunity there. Fire them instead.
@@TrollingHistory changed it
Russia:I m gonna fight against nazis!
ukraine appears*
Russia: I SAÄ°D NAZÄ°S!
TELEPORTS BACK Ä°N 1941*
RUSSIA: PERFECT!
The good ending
"Putin claims they are fighting Nazis in Ukraine?
Well, what would happen if they would've really fight Nazis?"
~ Binkov 2022
in both cases we will win
@@Sightless111
Also in both cases, Russia was controlled by an authoritarian, ultra-nationalist regime.
do you think ukraine not nazi country? ten years ago russian in ukraine was the language of everyday communication for aat least 65% of population.. and it was native language for ebout 40% of pop.. they closed all russian schools, expelled russian from tv and newspapers ..they began to plant the cult of Stepan Bandera - it is necessary to explain who he is and what he became famous for? just look at the photos of the members and logos of the Aidar and Azov battalions.. listen to what they say.. do I need to explain something else? Ukraine is a 100% nationalist state that infringes on about 40% of its population on national and linguistic grounds
@@Sightless111
Three points that are pure facts:
1) That is an enormous exaggeration, and you should check the facts from every possible source you can get, and not only from Putin's controlled media obviously.
2) Whether you believe the Ukrainian government is bad or not, the dictatorial, oligarchic, corrupt, human rights abusive Russian government is 1,000 times worse both for Ukrainians and Russians alike.
3) DON'T YOU EVER USE THAT TERM NAZI LIKE THAT!
The Nazis were the nothing like anything you've ever seen. Nothing that exists in this world today is even REMOTELY close to the damn Nazis.
The Nazis committed the largest by far, the most brutal, the most racist, the most abusive and horrific *GENOCIDE* in human history.
Calling anyone you see about today is nothing but pure disgrace for the holocaust victims.
@@Sightless111
The Russian media is litterally censoring entire communication systems, and imposed only propaganda news.
Just like in the "good old" Soviet times.
Do you want the truth? Search for all the information from every single media possible and obviously not only from one side.
Let's be real, if that were to happen they'd aim for pure domination over the entire European continent. After that nothing could stop them attacking whatever they wished. The entire world would be more in awe of them than the world was just in awe of the power that produced those nukes. Not that I'm a fan of Russia, but I think that'd be a fact. The knowledge they'd possess would be almost godlike, like mentioned dozens of times in the video.
I don't doubt other nations would eventually capture and reverse engineer some of the equipment. I'd wager it wouldn't take the brightest minds of the time too long to figure some of the tech out, modern rifles and night vision for instance. The means to reproduce the more advanced stuff wouldn't exist (guided munitions or computer systems), but I assure you all the major nations would take notice. There would be a major leap in military tech once the UK or USA got their hands on it, Germany would be too screwed to make any use of it, but if they can capture some equipment in battle of kaliningrad they could use it against the Russian army also. If they send some back to Germany for research this will also open it up to espionage from the allies. I also believe even if the modern Russian military was fully mobilized it couldn't hope to control territories outside Europe and Asia. One thing not mentioned in the video is how much they rely on imports for things like microchips and other military materials. Without modern day China also going back in time they will need to create from scratch a whole industry, and might even need to invade parts of China for a guaranteed supply of rare earth minerals.
@@danielgloyd4529
Considering they have conquered Manchuria, Korea and Japan they should be fine
Cold War in 1942
Civil Rights Movement gets a huge boost as Social Media shows the uglyness of Segregation
There would be a Space Race to see which side establishes a Space Colony first
Colonies gain Independence much earlier
@@christiandauz3742Russia would probably try to invade USA in this scenario to prevent its rise. Which might actually do massive damage to USA economy and infrastructure and cripple the country.
Yeah while loasing against ukraine đ
â@@danielgloyd4529Yeah, except they can't even comprehend microchips.
The time travel is more believable than Russian army being able to supply their tanks all the way to Berlin
@yaboynickgurr But theyâre not doing now.
@yaboynickgurr because the US gave the hundreds of thousands of trucks to transport their logistics, they can't even supply a convoy a couple of hundred kilometers from their border.
@@TheDrewdavis06 Russian soldiers have even been seen raiding Ukrainian shops for food and tanks and armoured vehicles are regularly running out of fuel, they're clearly struggling to keep up with their logistic needs. Putin really underestimated the Ukrainians willpower and didn't expect the west to respond as they have. I think that it'll take quite a bit of time for Putin to fully realise his mistake but there's no way he's gonna take over Ukraine, even if the regular Ukrainian military is defeated he'll have to deal with a very well supported insurgency and a population of determined people who don't want to be under Russian rule
@@TheDrewdavis06 on point, I have a novel called how the allies won the war..it focuses on materials and not on battles. The amounts the the USA give the soviets was beyond reckoning. Trucks, boots, belt buckles, gloves, food, jeeps...toys for kids and more and more
@@Mewithabeard well yeah you are right but if it was a total war and Russia doesn't care about its economic issues nothing stops them from bombing Ukraine to the core and insurgents wouldn't stand a chance against modern day bombers
And do u think any European country would dare invade a nuclear power?
Imagine being a german grunt getting stuck in night duty and look into the distance in a woods and seeing T-90 Red eyes
Or more likely: imagine being a German soldier, and coming across a T-90 stuck in a ditch, because it ran out of fuel.
@@socksjunior7792
Images being a Ukronazi stuck in the Donbass knowing you're a dead men no matter what happens.
@@socksjunior7792 yeah due to lack of supplies and logistics ,Germans would capture thousands of equipment such as anti air vehicles and guns which would then be used to destroy russian aircraft
And yes,every thing doesn't require a microchip to reverse engineer
@@ericvonmanstein2112 the Germans would DEFINITELY reverse engineer, and we would be looking at a timeline where humans are more advanced sooner as Germany produces what looks like alternate universe, reverse engineered, modern weapons in 1940.
ââ@@ericvonmanstein2112bro how would they capture anti aircraft vehicles and gunsđ those are very easy to carry they might capture tanks and armoured vehicles but not anti aircraft vehicles and guns
You also forget they still have T-55/62s if they run out of T-72s, I think even their legacy tanks would be more than a match for the Panzers
That is so true T-54 and T-55 could easily outclassed german tanks in ww2
@@norvikingg246 only a king tiger could at all match them
Germany hasn't even begun to mass produce infantry AT weapons so tank and armored vehicle losses would be fairly low especially since every German position would be spotted and annihilated from range before the Germans even see let alone get in range of Russian armor
â@@yeetyeet5079only a Maus could
i love how the comments are divided under:
A: Russia gets curbstomped by Germany.
B: Germany gets curbstomped by Russia.
Germany gets demolished, the Russian military is a formidable one.
â@@Reinhard_Erliknot to mention even the tigers wouldn't scratch their tanks and the Luftwaffe would essentially be grounded by the spaa and S.A.M
Well one is made by salty wehraboos, the other by people with common sense
The answers yes, I highly doubt Tiger II and Jagdtigers would take out T-54 and 55s let alone T-72 and 80s. Panzer IV, Stug, and literally any of their more numerous tanks would be so useless it wouldnât even be funny. Russias army would also be way better armed with assault rifles and body armour
Donât need to actually penetrate a tank to take one out. When your in a tank and get hit by something that still doesnât pen it rocks your world. Plus if the inside is poorly manufactured bolts, or really anything that flys off on the inside turns into shrapnel.
@@OksmanTV Yes i see russians with body armor,You must be blind.
@@OksmanTV If chechens have them then why wont the main army have then
I don't think they had Tigers in 1941
RPGs give Russian Infantry a massive advantage
@@stevenrodriguez763 Yes, 1941 tanks could theoretically damage the tracks of a russian tank but considering that russian taks outrange them and can one-shot them it wouldn't happen very often. Also if you consider that every russian infantry squad has a granadier with an RPG-7 (which can destroy 1940s tanks) you really strt to see how the germans would have no chances in this scenario. Also what you said about bolts turning into shraonel was common in the first world war but alreadr with the second world war this issue was mostly solved let alone in the modern era
God the amount of "people" in the comments who straight up did not watch the video. Binkov says modern Russia absolutely steamrolls Germany so hard that they invade imperial Japan early and deny the US their sphere of influence in Asia. Cold war era equipment in a defensive war against early ww2 equipment is not even a question of who wins, not even counting anything Russia has produced in the last 30 years. Russia is struggling in Ukraine because their military is designed for international force projection, what with the nuclear arsenal and insistence on maintaining a large navy and large missile stockpile. It wasn't designed for a rapid surgical strike into a recently modernizing military country. But faced with an all or nothing existential threat, the modern Russian military would wipe the floor with nazi germany in a defensive war.
Even in a offensive war. There's no way for germany to intercept russian planes even with the latest WW2 fighters. It would be a reversed situation. They encounter one T80/T90 and germany will lose a bunch of tanks. You dont even need a modern tank when it comes to defense. A single KV1 during the early invasion destroyed an entire column of panzers and the crew lived an another day with a damaged tank.
@@patriktoth6258 yep and a tiger 2 could be penetrated frontally by a rpg-7. people don't realise how overkill modern weapons are compared to ww2. not to mention that back then there was no automatic decryption of field radios so any modern military could listen to virtually all radio chatter of a ww2 army.
For those who say that Russia showed too much incompetence in the war in Ukraine for this scenario to be realistic, I remind you that in this scenario Russia would be actually defending itself, so morale would be much higher, and level of tech advantage would be immense. Modern PC with a clever programmist would make mockery of even most advanced Enigma coding, so Russians would basically read every message sent by German radio network. Precison guided munitions could take out such crucial targets like Schweinfurt ball bearings factories and Ruhr dams with ease, ruining German industry. Same goes for crucial fuel facilities like refineries, or bridges on major rivers...
Against Ukraine with relatively modern air defences, Russia came close to completely blacking out electricity. Imagine this against 1941 Germany...
"For those who say that Russia showed too much incompetence in the war in Ukraine"
Anyone who thinks that are the incompetent ones. Because seriously, anyone gullible enough to believe in the western propaganda faerytales are incapable of rational thought.
Anyone who actually bothered LOOKING at what happened rather than listening to the fancy wishful thinking of the west, will notice that despite having massive numerical disadvantage, having the disadvantage of attacking and the disadvantage of attacking into the biggest set of fortifications since the Maginot line, and Russia is still utterly trashing the Ukraine military.
The US people that trained the Ukraine miltiary since 2014, back last March, bragged about how it was the best Nato army in the world, and how it would soon march into Moscow.
Yeah, that didn't work very well now did it.
Instead, we're looking at an absurd killratio advantage for Russia.
Russian KIAs, somewhere in the 10-14 thousand range, plus a similar number from the formed DPR/LPR, who up until recently had distinctly inferior equipment. Less than 400 captured by Ukraine.
Ukraine KIAs, above 300 thousand, probably above 400 thousand. Minimum of over 20 thousand captured by Russia(those are the confirmed ones). Probably over 30 thousand.
"Russia would be actually defending itself"
So, you completely missed all the times western leadership has by now admitted that this war was planned and created by the west?
Most prominently, Angela Merkel, TWICE.
Did you miss how members of the EU parliament just over a month ago held a conference about how to "decolonise" Russia?
Strange how similar that was to the Wannsee conference.
Or did you miss the publication "Extending Russia" from Rand in 2019? Wherein arguments are made for how to best destroy Russia, by forcing it into war with Ukraine.
Just to take a FEW of the many blatantly obvious examples that have floated to the surface by now.
"so morale would be much higher"
Maybe you should try asking the rank and file among the Russian troops instead of people incapable of telling the truth?
Troops with poor morale does NOT consistently defeat an enemy who has a 3 to 1 numerical advantage over them like Ukraine had most of 2022.
@@DIREWOLFx75 Man, you are the first Russian troll I have seen in the wild. Can I get your autograph?
Most commenters talking about ukraine as a reason how Germany could win are failing to note that modern ukraine is still many leagues ahead of any military in the 1940s, be they Germans or americans
ââ@@bensonfang1868And Ukrainian equipment by this point is NATO equipment. It is being helped by the West with billions of dollars and a lot of equipment that is some of the most advanced on the planet.
that's not incomptenet. if the war had been quick, we would not have seen killed leopards, abrams and f16s in the future
Video idea: What if the modern danish military replaced the ww2 danish military and could it resist the german invasion?
Iâm guessing youâre Danish
Due to cut backs...we will stay lose....but we might hold out long enough for the invasion of Norway to fail.
@@carstenrenekjrulff6272 bruh no even with just a few planes that would be enough to stop the Germans
@@Justinian506 all it takes is to hold out at the airfields for 3-4 days....Then Luftwaffe wouldn't have been able to support the Kriegsmarine the first week of the operation.
No. The technological advantage would be huge, but sheer numbers, and no depth into which the Danes could fall back would mean German victory. A staggeringly costly victory, but victory nonetheless. The Danes simply could not rearm and resupply their modern weaponry fast enough to avoid being overrun.
People down in the comments are acting like Ukraine is a 3rd world country with no tanks, fighter jets, and unprofessional army and isn't constantly supplied with artillery shells, HIMARS, ATACMS, Leopards 2s, Challenger 2s, AMX 10s, Bradleys, CVs, Marders, M113s , Strykers, MRAP vehicles, Patriot air defense missile systems, M777s, Caesars, Stormers, Drones and to top it all off with NATO training.
I'm confident that Ukraine is a way bigger threat to Russia than Nazi Germany will ever be. It is common sense and it is embarassing that i have to explain it to people in the comment section, they come up with BS like reverse engineering, with your logic North Korea could mass produce F22s if they ever caught one.
but i thought russia was number 1
3 right now.
1@@Reondos
Don't need a time-traveling scenario like this cause it's a daily occurring thing in War Thunder, folks.
"oh shit i got a full uptier"
I am pretty tired of seeing people claiming that nazi Germany could actually win a war against modern day Russia (I mean⊠they couldnât win against 1940s soviet union but somehow they would be able to win against an army with technology 80 years ahead, whateverâŠ) so now I will compare the military equipment of the russian army (as of 2022) and an "ideal german army" (doing so with the 1941 one would be too easy). The "ideal german army" is a german army with all the technology they managed to produce throughout the entire war and with their peak production numbers for each category. The categories analyzed will be: Infantry squad composition, tanks, armored vehicles, helicopters, aircrafts, surface vessels, submarines and anti-aircraft capabilities (if you think I have to add other categories please let me know). This reply will also be pretty long so it will be divided in multiple comments.
German infantry squad (1944/45): composed of 1 squad leader (stg44 or MP40), 1 deputy squad leader (MP40 or captured ppsh) 1 machinegunner (MG42 or MG34), 1 assistant machine gunner (kar98k), 1 senior riflemen (G43) and 4 riflemen (kar98k); there might be 2 or 3 panzerfausts. This is the tipical composition of the late war and is the one with the most firepower, I did not include special units. All soldiers have a stahlhelm (steel helmet) for protection from artillery fragments and have a late war camouflage pattern (Splittertarnmuster for the army and Platanenmuster, Rauchtarnmuster, Palmenmuster, Eichenlaubmuster, Erbsenmuster for the waffen SS. There is also the Leibermuster which was also able to absorb infra-red but it was produced in very low numbers)
Russian infantry squad (2022): composed of 1 squad commander (AK-74M with GP25), 1 senior rifleman (AK-74M with GP25), 1 machinegunner (PKP/PKM ), 1 assistant gunner (AK-74M), 1 grenadier (AK-74M and RPG-7v2), 1 assistant grenadier (AK-74M) and a marksman (SVD Dragunov). Sometimes the marksman is replaced by a riflemen with an AK-74M. All soldiers have a 6B47 aramid fibre helmet for protection from artillery fragments, a 6B46 plate carrier containing 6B45 body armor for individual protection and have EMR digital pattern camouflage.
Comparison: Regarding the armament the russian squad is superior in nearly every aspect: despite the numerical superiority of the german squad the russian one has more automatic firepower because every soldier has an automatic weapon and despite the higher fire rate of the MG42 the PKP has better sustained fire capabilities and higher accuracy. The German have more long range weapons but most of the engagements occur at distances below 300 metres and the german squad also lacks the optics for accurate long range firefights while the russian Dragunov is scoped. It is also worth noticing that the russian have two portable granade launcher which are very useful both at long and medium range. For protection the russians have a huge advantage as they have better helmets (made of aramid fibre instead of steel) and body armor. The russian 6B45 body armor is rated GOST 6A (in theory) which should be able to stop a 7,62x54mmR at 10 metres but due to corruption inside the russian military many soldiers are issued worse types of body armor (allegedly around GOST 2 or 3 which should still be able to stop a 7,62x39mm or a 5,45x39mm at 10 metres). Though not as good as its contemporaries and, if GOST 2, not enough to stop the bullet of a kar98k at close range the russian body armor is definitely better than the nothing the germans have. The russian EMR digital camouflage pattern is a better and more performing pattern than its german contemporaries of the 1940s.
It is also worth noting that, at least in theory, the russian units have scopes, night vision, KRUS Information control and communications system and combat radios as part of their ratnik kits and although limited in numbers because of the internal corruption of the russian army there are some units equipped with them that would be even better than their german counterparts and could do raids in the german rear lines.
Also all the russian infantry is mechanized or motorized so every russian infantry squad has a BMP or a BTR to support them.
German tanks: I will not consider the german tanks considered (by the german high command) obsolete even in the late war (mid 1944 onwards) as though numerous they would be even worse than modern armored scout cars so in this situation, similarly to what happened in the real late war, the german generals would consider their use just a waste of crewmen.
Said so the tanks âidealâ germany would have are 8500 Panzer IVs, 6000 Panzer Vs âPantherâ, 1349 Panzer VI âTiger Iâ, 492 Panzer VIs âTiger IIâ, 2 Panzer VIII âMausâ, 10000 stug IIIs and 1100 stug IVs for a total of 27443 tanks and assault guns (circa as the numbers of Panthers and stugs are approximated). I remind you that these are the total production numbers of the entire war and that germany never fielded this many tanks all at once.
Now letâs see the armor thickness and penetration power of these tanks:
stug III: no more than 80mm (front); at most 85mm of penetration at 1000 metres
Panzer IV: no more than 80mm (front); at most 85mm of penetration at 1000 metres
stug IV: no more than 80mm (front); at most 85mm of penetration at 1000 metres
Panzer V âPantherâ: no more than 100mm (front of the turret); at most 150mm of penetration at 1000 metres
Panzer VI âTiger Iâ: no more than 100mm (front); at most 193mm of penetration at 1000 metres
Panzer VI âTiger IIâ: no more than 185mm (front of the turret); at most 193mm of penetration at 1000 metres
Panzer VIII âMausâ: no more than 260 mm (front of the turret); at most 230mm at 1000 metres
Russian tanks: I will consider russian tanks (as of january 2022) and I will also add their stockpiles of older soviet armor because I think that in this scenario, being drastically outnumbered, the russians would use these tanks to arm the soldiers of the other soviet republics (which have not time traveled) and so plug the gaps in the frontline.
Said so Russia had (as of 2022) circa 20 T-14 Armata, circa 70 T-90Ms, 350 T-90As, 170 T-80BVMs, 200 T-80BVs, 110 T-80Us, 840 T-72B3Ms, 850 T-72B3s and 650 T-72BAs plus 200 T-90s, 3000 T-80BVs/T-80Us, 7000 T-72s/T-72As/T-72Bs, 2500 T-64s, 800 T-62s, and some hundreds of T-54s/T-55s (the others were sold to african countries because they are outdated). I remind you that these are only the tanks available to Russia in 2022 not the ones of the entire soviet union or the total production numbers, otherwise they would outnumber by far the german tanks. Following there are basic statistics (armor protection and penetration capabilities) of the base variants of russian and soviet tanks:
T-55: at most 205mm on the turret front, at least 130mm at 2km
T-62: at most 214mm on the turret front, at least 150mm at 2km
T-64: 575mm against HEAT rounds (without ERA), at least 150mm at 2km
T-72: 600mm against HEAT rounds (without ERA), at least 150mm at 2km
T-80: 650mm against HEAT rounds (without ERA), at least 150mm at 2km
T-90: 850mm against HEAT rounds (without ERA), at least 150mm at 2km
As you can see all the base variants (because is important to consider that upgraded variants perform significantly better than the base varian which is often some decades older) can not be penetrated even by the âmightyâ 88mm cannon of the tiger tank and can deal without problems with everything the german army had in the second world war. The only exception is the base T-55 which could be indeed be destroyed by the heavier late war german panzers but this issue can be solved easily by adding kontakt-1 ERA: this ERA decreases penetration by 55% (on average and it also depends on the type of round but this is true for the shells used during the second world war) so this way even a T-55 can survive against a maus.
Note that I used the highest penetration armor thickness on both german and russian tanks (usually on the front) but on the sides armor is less protective.
Comparison: all of the russian tanks not only are basically invulnerable to their german counterparts but are also equipped (except maybe T-55s) with night vision (or thermals on the more modern ones), fire control systems, hunter-killer capabilities (only the more modern ones) and other features that make them simply superior in every way to even the heaviest of the german tanks. I does not matter how much you hype a panther tank a T-62 will always oblitarate it, let alone a T-72B3 (most common russian tank).
German armored vehicles: despite the german army being well know for being highly mechanized this is more a false myth as for the entire war the vast majority of the german infantry divisions used horses.
Still panzer grenadier divisions were equipped, on top of tanks, with many armored cars and halftracks mounting machine guns. Germany used various models and many foreign modes taken from conquered nations during the entire war, here I will describe the most common ones but it does not require a genius to understand that the performances of two slightly different models of halftracks with an MG slapped on are basically the same agains a modern IFV armed with a 20mm autocannon.
Said so âidealâ Germany would have circa 2400 sd.kfz 221 (and variants) armored cars, 470 sd.kfz 231 (and variants), 478 sd.kfz 234, 6600 sd.kfz 250 and 15200 sd.kfz 251.
sd.kfz 250 and 251 are open top half tracks lightly armored and armed with a MG42 machinegun (note that the machine gunner is exposed), they can barely withstand small arms fire and can transport an infantry squad..
sd.kfz 221 and 231 are armored cars with a turret equipped with a MG34 machinegun, the gunner is not exposed and they offer a little more protection against small arms fire but they can not transport an infantry squad.
sd.kfz 234 is an armored car mounting a pak 40, it has a more powerful armament but the protection is still the one of an armored car.
Russian armored vehicles: the russian army (like any modern army) is highly mechanized and every infantry squad is supported either by an IFV or by an APC. Russiaâs main IFVs are the BMP-2 (active 3000, reserve 1500) and the BMP-3 (active 650) while their main APCs are the BTR-80 (active 14000) and the BTR-82A (active 6000). Without considering its consistent reserves of 7000 BMP-1s, 500 BTR-70s, 4800 BTR-60s and 5550 MTLBs which despite being outdated for today's standards are more than enough for a war against a 1940s army.
The BMP-2 Has good protection against small caliber firearms and a decent one against 30mm rounds (just on the front). Can carry an infantry squad and is armed with a 30mm autocannon, a ATGM (usually a KONTURS or a KORNET) and a PKT machine gun (the gunner is in a turret)
The BMP-3 Protection is pretty much the same as the BMP-2 but it has as armament both a 30mm autocannon and a 100mm cannon (on top of ATGMs and a PKT machine gun)
The BMP-1 has a protection comparable to the one of the BMP-2 (even if it is a littler more lightly armored) and is equipped with a 100mm cannon, an ATGM and a PKT machine gun. Like the other IFVs can carry a complete infantry squad
The BTR-80 Has good protection against small caliber firearms and can even survive some hits by a 30mm autocannon on the frontal armor. Can carry a complete infantry squad and is armed with a 14,5 mm heavy machine gun in a turret (the gunner is protected).
The BTR-82A is literally just a BTR-80 with a 30mm autocannon instead of the heavy machine gun (and a little improved armor)
The BTR-70 and BTR-60 have similar performances to the BTR-80 but have worse crew ergonomics and other minor differences that make them obsolete for modern standards but still more than good for dealing with 1940s armies
The MT-LB is in theory used just as an artillery tractor and for logistical purposes but against a 80 years older army it can still serve its purpose. It's armed only with a PKM machine gun (in this case the gunner is exposed) and can not withstand 30mm bullets like heavier IFVs or APCs but can still carry an infantry squad and protect it against the MG42s mounted on german halftracks.
Not every russian IFV has thermals but still a relevant number of them has generation 2 thermal sights like the BMP-2M and the BMP-3 (is a complicated topic because currently russia is producing BMPs with and without thermals at the same time and is hard to find exact numbers about it but I thought that this was worth noting) so this gives them a huge advantage against german armored cars and halftracks.
Comparison: The Russian army not only has more armored vehicles but also better ones. All german armored vehicles can be destroyed by just a few hits by an autocannon while the only german armored car capable of destroying a russian BMP is the sd.kfz 234 with its Pak 40 anti tank gun but even âidealâ Germany doesnât have a lot of them and they are more of a âglass cannonâ considering that they are still vulnerable to a BMPs autocannon. The MT-LB is for sure the weaker russian armored vehicle but it does not matter much because it would likely get used as an APC and it would deliver troops just a few 10s of metres away from the front lines and then retreat like an âarmored taxiâ. In the end, yes russian IFVs can be destroyed by a german tank but they can hit back with their ATGMs or even with their autocannon against a Panzer IV or a Stug and German tanks are vulnerable to so many things Russia has they would likely not have the time to be a threat to anything.
Regarding helicopters there is not much to say: Russia has them and nazi Germany doesnât.
Russia has a large variety of helicopters such as the mil mi-24 (Russia had 328 of them in 2022), the ka-52 (Russia had 116 of them in 2022) and the mil mi-28 (Russia had 112 of them in 2022) each of these attack helicopters alone carries enough missiles to be a threat even to modern tanks let alone 1940s models. To note also that I did not consider all the utility helicopters that Russia has which, if needed, can for sure be cheaply equipped to deal with 1940s vehicles and fortifications. On top of this modern helicopters have the capability to attack their targets with missiles from more than 10 km away so even in this field the germans would be hit by something they simply canât see (and therefore deal with).
Air Forces comparison: a deep analysis on the modern russian air force and the 1940s luftwaffe is not only unfair but also useless. Russia has circa 800 fighter jets of various nature while the luftwaffe could only count on propeller planes which are so slow and fly so low that they would be no match for even 1960s jets. The only jet plant nazi germany ever had was the Messerschmidt me-262 and only 1430 of them were built. This despite being ahead of other planes of the 1940s still is no match for any modern airforce as every modern jet can detect and hit its target 100s of kilometres before making contact and the me-262 simply does not have such capabilities.
Just like the air force, a deep comparison of a 21st century navy with a mid 20th century one is unfair and unnecessary. The kriegsmarine was subpar even to its contemporaries and quickly lost the Atlantic due to a constant lack and mismanagement of resources. You donât need a you tube comment to understand that modern ships, which are capable of carrying missiles and hit targets 100s of kilometres away, would dominate a navy which bases itself on battleships and cruisers which use cannons instead of missiles. Not that a navy comparison matters anyway since the complete control of the sky that the russians would easily achieve would wipe out every german ship.
Even the mighty U-boots which sunk many allied convoys would be a quick work for the russians for many reasons: first the russians have far better sonars (because the USSR spent the entire cold war racing with the USA on who had the better submarine) one every ship and submarine they have, second the russians have many ways to sink a german U-boot like torpedoes from their own submarines, torpedoes from specialized planes or a missile from a surface vessel while a 1940s torpedo would probably just scratch any modern military ship and third because U-boots are not properly submarines but rather submersibles, this means that they are slower underwater and have to spend most of the time on the surface (even during the second world war the greatest enemies of U-boots were planes) so it would be easy for the russian air force to destroy them one by one. The only U-boot which can be called a real submarine is the type XXI but Germany had only 10 of them working in may 1945 and anyways are still made in the mid 40s and so their sonars and torpedoes are inferior and are also far louder than even cold war submarines.
Russian anti-air capabilities: Russia has a wide variety of SAMs to take down modern fighter jets but to destroy the propeller planes Germany had in the second world war SPAAGs are more than enough. In 2022 Russia had 480 ZSU-23-4 Shilka and 250 2K29 Tunguska SPAAGs which can take down modern planes and missiles so it wouldnât be a problem for them to destroy propeller planes.
German anti-air capabilities: The germans had many anti aircraft artillery but it was all maneuvered by hand by a human crew so it would just be unable to hit a modern jet. Is also to be considered the altitude to which modern jets fly and that this makes it even harder to spot and hit a russian jet. On top of all of this I remind you that russian jets are capable of hitting targets many kilometres away so the german anti-air crews wouldnât probably do any damage to the russian air force.
Thatâs it, as a source for the data (on top of common sense) I used wikipedia which, I know, is not the most reliable source but for a comment like this is more than enough. I am not an expert in the characteristics of every equipment used by the russian army so if there is someone who has a passion for these things I will gladly change the data and the information if I mad some mistakes or inaccuracies. The final part of the comment (the aircraft and navy sections) are not as complete as the others but as you can see this is comment is quite long and in the end I was a bit tired of writing obvious things and considering that, as said, Russia has jets while nazi Germany has propeller planes there is not really a need for a deep comparison.
I also want to add that I do not support Russia and I am not one of those tankies saying that the russian army (as it is now) could win against the united states but, well⊠1940s Germany is not 2020s USA.
Come on guys, I know that making fun of Russia is the mood right now, but all the modern technologies that Ukraine has in the current war wouldnât be on 1941, even t-62âs and mig-21âs can obliterate 1940âs equipment, and without himars or long range artillery Russian logistics would be practically untouched, moral would be a lot better, and 2020âs Russia still has more people than 1940âs Germany.
So, this fictional and entertaining war would end with an absolute Russian victory, no matter how uncomfortable we feel with Russia right now.
This video is basically how Putin sees the war in Ukraine
Exactly how Nato saw the Taliban for 20 years.
@@mihirshetye4624 you're cringe
if this happened the entire world would be soviet russia by 1955
They would have expansion goalsđ
Stalin would probably go for US after dealing with Germany.
Jesus weâve given up on Russia so badly that weâre sending Russia back to 1941 lol
Russia have to lower the game setting to a very easy mode but still fail on logistic.
Russia accidentally set their difficulty to Veteran and are putting that shit down to Recruit
@@lokisg3 Russia will have to use cheats to put infrastructure to level 10
After that Russia can even win on hard mode
@@lokisg3 like the US trying to fight Afghanistan, vietnam and bombing iraq
@@Jame-me-me-me-mes
Yeah, except the US is on the other side of the continent and they lose politics because all three are corrupt as fuk.
Meanwhile Russia is invading next door!
Ok, but what if Atilla's Huns
had ridden He-Man's Battle Cats
against a Rome commanding 350 AT-AT Walkers,
while the Goths counted a Keanu Reeves among their ranks?
And remember: Only true peace can bring us all together, but her milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
The AT-ATs have a massive firepower but 350 is not enough to hold off a hordeof Huns riding battlecats, which by the way can get rid of the AT-ATs if at close range and in numerical superiority. Also you have to consider Keanu Reevs massive plot armor which would make him absolutly immortal and so a huge asset for the Goths.
Yall are so fixated on Ukraine lol. Yall really think ww2 tech can beat modern?
Modern Serbia could win against ww2 germany
If they have the capacity to produce an invasion force or conduct a high precision airstrike then yeah maybe they could
Modern Hungary could beat Yugoslavia.
@@Crusading_E-100 Highly doubt that BUT with the support of NATO well then yes it can
This man is giving me gate anime vibes a Japanese modern military travels back in time to medieval times
GATE
Russia, after suddenly becoming the most technologically advanced nation on earth:
*confused screaming in slavic*
Russia seconds later: Oh yes, this is hyperpower time
Breaking news - Russian military got demoted in Binkov universe to point they have to compete against '41 opponents!!
it's like modern Russia against the troops of Alexander the Great.
Given their situation of Ukraine, Russia still loses
@@iamaloafofbread8926 not exactly Russia could of been leveled the cities but doesnât want high civilian casualty rates
@@tman7390 Exactly! I'm glad that someone else is educated enough to realize that as wellđđđđđđ
@@catherineharris4746 lol i swear the same people that fell for the covid narrative are falling for the Ukraine narrative the mainstream media is nothing but propaganda they know how to control the population with the next planned crisis
@@iamaloafofbread8926 yeah nođ
The german be like: thre nothing we can do
There nothing german to defend berlin very sadđąđąđą
Yes nothung german can defeat russian or defead land from t-14 armada
â@@amrullahainun1174The T-72,T-80,T-90 tanks:"Yum yum panzers"
There no changer that german defead
Modern Finnish army in the winter war could be nice
Definitely!
Letâs upvote this idea so it will be a new video babeh!!!
Yes;
They still lose
Like they would get clapped harder because Stalin will do anything to make sure they get hands on modern technology. So instead of 300 k Soviet soldiers it's going to be 10 millions.
Hey, for everyone getting mad at Binkov - let me explain a few things :
- The video was published at a bad time - it's bad timing, not some kind of propaganda or support for Russia ;
- Binkov is NOT from Russia, he's from Croatia and he can say anything about the war in Ukraine ;
- He always makes videos where both armies are at the top of their functioning - this includes morale, logistics and such + the video would have been in the works for MONTHS - that's why he did not mention Ukraine ;
- Anything not mentioning the war in Ukraine while mentioning Russia is not automatically propaganda, relax, people!
thought this channel would have a more intelligent audience to see that but guess not
@@laggindragon7166 Well, what can you do? I am trying to at least inform some that this is not anything pro-Russian...
@@mabeSc ya that's all any of us can do, people will always jump to conclusions regardless as annoying as it is
"Supported by modern russian industry"
Umm... what industry ?
There is... some... Industry
@@Walterdecarvalh0100 like 7 buildings left working lmao
Did Putin time travel with them? If he did, Russia would totally be in big trouble, again.
"Which went well"
Obviously Russia is gonna win, what I would like to know is if the German military of 2022 could hold off theallies in 1945
no )) the German army does not exist in 2022. less than 100 leopard-2 tanks on the move and a bunch of pathetic gays
@@Sightless111 German army is generally more conservative
The modern day Bundeswehr is not numerous and in many areas quite weak.
Modern Germany sues for peace with the Western Allies while stopping the Soviet advance
NATO curbstomps the Warsaw Pact
Defensively they could def win due to AirPower alone
Binkov: "Imagine Russia suddenly banished to June 1941"
Sounds like one of the project that USA might currently working on
Wonât even need to, Ukraine might just do it themselves đżđ
@@abel_underwater
This comment is really funny in hindsight. Why do I get the feeling you lost your brother in Lviv?
I think the modern Russian army would chew up the germans terribly. While they are not as effective against modern western tanks, they are 5 generations ahead of the short barreled 50mm Pz III...
I am wondering if they could beat WW1 Germany at this point.
maybe the clown should put up another show for congress, he was pretty funny
Yes actually, planes and tanks weren't a thing since the 1915 and even then all of those tanks and planes were literally garbage
Yes. They would curbstomp the Central Powers in less than a year on their own.
Then there would be a Cold War in 1915
Ukraine literally gets so much NATO aid lol.
German farmers with tractors may turn the tide.
How confusing for the Axis: being shot at by all these futuristic weapons, and still be sniped by Mosin Nagant PUs.
Itâs army isnât large enough, and Russian logistics are very degraded. I think they get smoked surprisingly
I honestly think modern Russia would easily wipe the floor with Germany. However Russiaâs ability to fight all the way to Berlin, I am not sure. Not any military expert, however this is just my opinion.
The Russians has Garbage equipment and the nazis were better Trained and There are Corruption in the military meaning soldiers will turn against or surrender
I regret saying this lol I forgot about the tanks of nazis and how bad they were
â@@UFOEater đ bro These modern Soldiers will also know what the Nazis are planing. You can be sure they will not surrender
â@@UFOEaterbro ww2 Germany has WAY WORSE equipment than today's Russia.
Shittiest BMP is wunderwaffe
@@UFOEaterno they wonât dude. Modern day weapons from any country would make this fight super one sided
â@@UFOEater
Tigers and Panther tanks engines and transmissions were always break down lmao without mentioning the fuel shortage they had
This Scenario with the information as of today:
German: âHans⊠ze transmission broke!â *sad face*
Russian: â Kiril, blyad⊠where are we? And where is our fuel?â *surprised special operations face*
Konigsberg and Kaliningrad are teleported into eachother đ€ Russians and germans in the same house, a few unlucky people getting fused together...
"The morale would be high as they're winning a war where they're actually protecting their homeland"
lol I see what you did there
I don't know who would be more surprised in this scenario, Hitler or Putin. On the one hand, Putin suddenly finds himself being attacked by Nazi Germany, which would cause all manner of confusion. But on the other hand, Hitler suddenly finds out Russia has capabilities eighty years ahead of anything Germany has.
Hitler, because his own generals will assassinate him
40 years. Not 80.
Russia military technology might not be 80 years ahead of Nazi Germany but enough to make Putin, Tzar of the world after defeating Axis and Alliance power.
@@ilmaio 2022 - 1922 = 80
@@user-te7rf8ik7z Most Russian stock is from before the 90âs
Next do Russian tank army vs Ukrainian farmers
Brother that's not even a skirmish.... farmer's emerge victorious hands down every time
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The brute force VS the COURAGEđșđŠđȘ
Vs Ukrainian television victories ^^
@@Head_Coach vs Russian TV censorshipâïžđŽđ»
Well we've learned that modern Russian forces use mobile phones for communications and since their are no cell towers or satellites in 1940's Russia would be blind, deaf, and unable to use any modern weapons tech that uses gps.
Even the Gate anime took that into account
Don't bring reality into this now...he needs to click bait.
@kamenai they wouldnât since modern rockets including space ones require GPS. Not to mention Russia doesnât make its own rocket parts despite owning the most. The West does ironically.
Just the Russian helicopter force with 23mm or 30mm cannon would absolutely destroy German tanks of 1941 vintage, let alone the rockets or antitank missiles. the russian tanks would wreak havoc with german armor, being almost impervious to the weapons available then. this fight would be extremely unfair.
If Russia in 1941 could beat 1941 Germany Iâm sure 2022 Russia could beat 1941 Germany
Russian moral would actually be high as a result of a defensive war, unlike the one in Ukraine.
Moral is part.of the reason why Russia is doing so shit in Ukraine.
@@Anonymous-ld7je so whatâs your point? Russia wouldnât be able to defeat Germany without Tajikistan and Azerbaijan or smth?
In 1941 the Soviets were almost wiped, but ultimately saved by the vast distances and an early winter. A modern Russian military would probably smash the Germans at will, but the Russian Wunderwaffe would struggle to inflict more casualties on the German military than the actual Russian winter did.
In 1941 the Soviet military was a vastly larger force with far larger pools of manpower. A modern Russian force would never be beaten in the field, but would it have the scale to advance across (and hold) eastern Europe?
Russia would absolutely obliterate ww2 Germany , imagine a Fw190 against a MiG 29... or a panzer III agianst a T80 or a bmp...
and Tiger against T90 or Tiger II against T-14 Armata
@@robloxlol672 a tiger would break down even if was not facing a T90
Yeah russia could just spam cold war era weapons and won lol
@@zidanfirmansyah5600 not even cold war era tanks , they could , bc they have more advanced industry , repair the already billions of ww2 tanks russia still has
a Kirov class battlecruiser and even the kuznetsov ad any soviet submarine as well as sovremenny udasloy and even russian frigatres would eliminate any german ship EVEN THE TIRPITZ OR BISNARCK
engrish
true if the Bismark was sunk by a Dorsetshire cruise ship torpedo, then a Modern ICBM Cruiser can took it down.
I know the war in Ukraine is horrible, but this video is not Russian propaganda, just a channel doing what it usually does with what if scenarios for fun. You donÂŽt have to like it, but donÂŽt assume this is praising RussiaÂŽs actions on Ukraine in any way or saying that they will win. ItÂŽs totally different situations.
To all of you who think that this is Russian propaganda, because it doesn't tell that Russian army sucks and is incapable of anything... First of all, he clearly stated that the video was made before Russian invasion of Ukraine, when some weaknesses of Russian army were exposed.
Western experts also expected Russian air force to dominate the skies in Ukraine, you have quite a few articles on the Internet about them being perplexed as to what went wrong when the war started. Everybody had reasons to believe that Russian airforce was more capable than they really were, they proved themselves in Syria. Only later it turned out that what they showed there were operations of limited scale, and that they lack the ability to perform large scale operations needed to take full control of Ukrainian skies. And even that way, they still pretty much dominate the skies, albeit not having full control.
Regarding logistic problems Russia is facing, they were not obvious before this war, so you cannot blame that on Binkov either.
Also, about the morale, why do you think morale of the army would be the same as in Ukraine war? In Ukraine, they are sent to wage a war against a brotherly nation, a war that they don't understand, but in the scenario from the video, they would be fighting to defend their land agains nazi Germans. Their morale would be very high.
And at last, it seems a lot of people here think Russian army is totally worthless because of it being portrayed that way by western media, regarding the current war. While it is obvious that Russian army is underperforming, it is certainly not worthless, and they've made some progress. For example. they've taken whole Herson area. They made significant ground in Donbas.They are slowly encircling Kiev. Mariupol will fall in a matter of days. Sumy, Kharkov, and Cheringiv are under siege, and they are moving towards encircling Ukrainian army in Donbas.
If the video came out before the war your comments would be fine but it came out today.
Binkov even made a video about the war before releasing this one. He should have reworked it based on the new information.
@@JD-wf2hu Well if the video had come out before the war, this whole discussion would be meaningless anyway...
@@protector1990 that doesn't counter my point though does it.
@@JD-wf2hu No, you're right. However, whether he should or shouldn't have reworked the video is a matter of opinion, depending on what you actually wanted to see in this video. I honestly don't know what is Binkovs release schedule nor how long does it take for them to create a video, so I don't know if it made sense from their point of view. And in all honesty, I don't think end result would be much different. You could say that Russians would need more time to reach Berlin (although even in the video, Binkov predicted it would take almost a year).
Many of the problems Russian army is facing is partially caused by Ukrainian army also being a modern army and not a WW2 one. For example, Russians wouldn't have to worry about SAMs, manpads, guided anti tank weapons, nor drones in 1941.
@@protector1990 it's true we don't know his production schedule, there may not be much space for rework. It wouldn't take much though just expand the existing bit about it being made in December a bit more. Mention that russian night fighting, logistics and airforce would be weaker than the video suggests and the timeline would be longer and that addresses about 80% of the comments.
Even in the the current state Russian army world obliterate the axis with artillery and absolute airpower.
war thunder matchmaking
lol
What if 300 Spartans touched 1941's grass?
There is no way a 100 German airplanes could ever win against a single modern-day jet.
100 german fighters in the right formation, spraying full auto cannon fire in the right direction could easily take down a modern jet fighter
@@TheGreenguy85 not really, difference in altitude, speed and agility would mean that the only way germans would be able to take down Russian planes would be when the jets are refueling or generally inoperative on the ground
@@TheGreenguy85 If the jet fighter pilot is careless enough together in range.
Would be better to see if German army traveled through time and fight with Soviets
The modern Germans kill Stalin and democratize Eastern Europe
They then kill Mussolini and Hirohito!
â@@christiandauz3742The modern German army is way too small
@@rarescevei8268
Jets and Drones have no counters in WW2
Panzer IIs are crap against Leopards
@@christiandauz3742 Germany would still be fighting 2 million men with 181000. Sheer manpower would very much still win here
@@rarescevei8268
What would that do when Hitler and the other leaders are dead and there is a Civil War within Nazi Germany?
Those 2 Million German soldiers would be fighting each other
Weâve definitely learned Russia has little night fighting capabilities in Ukraine
Did you learn that from the talking heads on a video screen or from first hand experience? Because we all know after the past few years that the corporate news and social media companies ALWAYS tell the truth. đ€Ł
@@Johnny_Tambourine well if you consider none of the pictures from ANY source actually show Russian troops with any nvgâs or even red dots/ holo sites. Iâve seen one ak from the Russian side with a scope but it was from a Chechen fighter.
@@curiousentertainment3008 Optics win wars?
@@Johnny_Tambourine reality.
They aren't moving or flying at night because they use civilian electronics from Ali Baba
@@sideshow4417 yes they do actually. If you give an optic to pretty much anything that shoots it increases their engagement range by leaps and bounds. It increases effective range pretty much. So yea for modern wars it does make a difference.
For once people, can i not see a comment in a SINGLE video mentioning russia in it *NOT* relating to Politics or the Current War?
They deserve the mockery
@@DonetskChildrenBidenBomba i know they do, but they really make it like the entirety of russia is supporting this...
@@ZeroScotland because they basically are.
@@DonetskChildrenBidenBomba *russian civilians trying to get the f away from russia:*
@@ZeroScotland and the majority of them only did that to avoid the draft, not to get away from Russia
8:30 I am fascinated by the animation where a wife and child transforms into a combat ready soldier, it tells a whole story of its own and I had to rewatch it a few times.
HAHAHHAHHAHAHA
this series is just the reasearch all command in hoi 4
Research all in rise of nations mod đ
its a command @@Scurvybubble242
Modern-day Luxembourg vs the Mongolian Empire would be interesting.
Mmmmm mongol win (same polonia 2019 vs soviet nazi in 1940 ) yes heavy mongolian unity lost but the numbers win
The Lux curbstomps Temujin's empire
100 Luxembourgish armoured vehicles pulverise few hundred cavalrymen and run over Chingis and his commanders, the rest of the army flees from âmetal beasts with invisible and all-piercing arrowsâ, easy win for Luxembourg
@@limita9961
Luxembourg then starts the Industrial Revolution in the early 13th century
@@limita9961 Yes, I don't see how Mongolians would deal with a single helicopter. It will destroy them and demoralize them.
80 years of technology is just too much for any scenario. Heck, if you instead sent modern Finland back to 1940 I wouldn't bet money on the Soviet union surviving the war even though the difference in numbers.
So I don't really see the point here, it is like setting up a naval battle between the Imperial Japanese Navy of 1941 against the Royal Navy of 1804.
It works better if you go further back in time, it was really around WW1 technology moved so fast forward that just 20 years make so huge difference the oldest side can't win. But then, people probably wouldn't enjoy "What if Napoleon's France were sent forward to the Crimean war" as much.
It's a power fantasy trope, but we do get situations where even with the technological edge, it still wouldn't be enough to actually defeat the enemy simply because of the numbers.
Modern Finland doesn't have the capacity to occupy the USSR, and they'll probably run out of ammo and supplies before the Soviets run out of bodies and tanks to throw at them.
@@madensmith7014 Occupy? No, the worlds largest country is a tad bit difficult to occupy even for a huge nation like US.
Defeat is another matter.
Pretty sure putin would ally with 1941 germany at this point
He's literally fighting against Ukrainian Nazis
@@BiggusDickusthe15th good bot
@@NeiNonni he being a bot or not its a fact putins "justification" for the invasion is to stop nazis, thats just what he said , he being rigth or wrong wouldnt change that it would be very stupid to totally change your narrative and allie with guys you celebrate to have destroyed every year
@@BiggusDickusthe15th 1. Far right elements in Ukraine have no power in government and make up a statistically irrelevant proportion of the Ukrainian people . 2 The 2014 Russian invasion and subsequent civil society interference was the main driver of far-right actors in Ukraine. 3. Russia has a much more significant issue with far right actors and produces more far right policy than nearly any other state. That entire justification is a lie peddled by either the ignorant, the indoctrinated or the evil, which one are you ?
Putin is clearly a fascist despite having grown up in a communist country. Heâs fairly similar in philosophy to 1930s Germany, Italy, or Spain. Ukraine in fact has some fascist militias, but their numbers are very small and they hold no power.
At this point, I donât even feel confident that modern day Russia could beat 1942 Italy⊠lol
If you think that because how things are going with ucr4in3, the real reason Why Russia is not advancing as quicly as it could, Its because there's no point in getting ukr4in3 if Its useless
I am not confident into the US not being an imperialist group with retarded and obese citizens
After the Ukraine war, it does look like some videos could be revised:
-This one still seems fine, modern technology vs. World War 2 technology is still a huge gap, certainly in the heavier weapons/machinery.
-Can Russia invade Canada? No.
-Russia vs. EU: Russia loss. Though looking at how that plays out still fills a video. Does not start with Russia
occupying Ukraine.
-Russia vs. Turkey: Turkey holds back Russia or wins
-Can Russia conquer Scandanavia? Doesn't look like it.
-Russia vs. China: Russia ends up defending and has to get its supplies to Siberia, China has to attack into hostile terrain in Siberia, so video is probably about the same.
-US vs. Russia: Looks like US could invade pretty easily.
-Russia vs. India: India defends itself
-Japan invasion: Not happening
But there are some new possible videos: Russia vs. Chile, or Peru, or Iran, or Kenya, .....
(Or possibly Russian military leaders get scared and actually build the thing properly over the next few years, and the country gets more scary next time. but that's the future, maaan.)
Yes, with the current Russian invasion of Ukraine, it is evident how much the world has seriously overestimated the concentional, non nuclear capabilities of the Russian army.
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Hell this video would be different if the reports on how bad everything is in Russia is true (which I believe they are). Reports are saying they don't have enough pilots so everything about their Air Force is a third of what he talks about. And all the bad maintenance on their vehicles would mean that the destroying of the tires in any of the mud that happened everywhere in this part of time since roads were non-existent. On top of all of that they're having problems with getting fuel to the front lines in today's Russia let alone 1941 Russia.
@@War7123 I feel like in this video, the Germans would just cut off the supply lines of the modern Russian army of 200k so the modern Russian units would simply run out of supply as they get outnumbered by 3.2 million Germans.
From what we are seeing so far.. I would be surprised if modern Russia could defeat even WW1 germany
Ww1 Germany wasn't nazis
Ur hilarious bro đđđđđđ, so fucking funny
Russian troops would propably panic and not know what to do when they find out their phones doesn't work anymore and they can't call their mommies for comfort
@@dyremose Oh man oh man I did not expect this one I almost shitted my pants. But in real life, we have yet to see true Russian war fighting. We will get to see it very soon.
@@thelovertunisia I'm not so sure.. with 4 russian generals already dead.. who will have the ability to finally launch a modern combined arms push?
Their logistics are so horrible they would be dismantled.
Notice we do not see any reports of lacking logistics anymore.
It is likely that in the first week Russia did not expect such fierce resistance fron Ukrainian defenders and thus was not ready for a sustained conflict. Now that it might have gotten its shit together, we don't see reports of fuel or food shortages anymore.
@@TheNicestPig We don't see it first hand, but fact that planes can't refuel on russian airfields and lack of activity on the part of russian air force suggests that they have severe shortages of avitation fuel.
Also, russian army had become more and more static, so they don't use so much fuel as before and don't carry out deep operations that will produce out of fuel tanks for press(only destroyed ones).
@@kacperkociszewski6796 the RuAF also recently became quite active conducting airstrikes and combat air patrols, however their lack of Close Air Support seem to suggest poor coordination between branches in the Russian Armed Forces
Organising a major assault on large urban environments and distributing suitable equipment and refuelling takes time. Especially when we are talking about large armies. Much of these logistical problems seem to have already fixed but deliberate restraint has been a witnessed problem, as Russia has postponed major operations to reorganise.
The lack of an airforce presence is normal as Russia does not rely on major air support and operations unlike the United States, they rely on ground based artillery and are probing and scouting out defences for future operations. An important thing to not is the involvement of the Russian Railway forces which have been helping transport and reorganise logistical forces and transport.
@@dampug True, but russians had months to prepare and still is not able to carry out a deep offensive. Actually, it is not suprising, operability of the russian army was awfull even before the war and now it is in shambles.
That's exelent news for Ukraine. Such tactic will not only break their logistic but also expose slow and stationary altilery to ukrainian ambushes and drone strikes(if i rememer corectlly this is exacly what was happening lately - ukrainians capuring russian altilery positions near Kharkov and Nikolajev).
Throwing modern Russia back to 1941 would do to the Germans what throwing Operation Barbarossa and German-occupied Europe back to the start of 1812 would do to Tsar Alexander I's Russian Empire. The technology gap is so massive in both cases that the more modern force would mop up the less modern one with ridiculous ease.
This is a prime example of why people say Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics." The Soviets in 1941 didn't have the logistics to support a 1940s military how are they going to support a modern military?
The modern Russian military would run out of ammunition, parts in a couple days at best. Bridges that could handle modern Russian tanks would be an issue. Recovering stuck modern tanks would also be an issue.
@@Matt-mt2vi You seem to be thinking about an entirely different scenario. The scenario being talked about was "What if MODERN RUSSIA went back to 1941", not "What if the MODERN RUSSIAN MILITARY went back to 1941".
In the scenario I was addressing, the logistics "the Soviets in 1941" did or didn't have would be entirely irrelevant, as it would be replaced by the logistics of modern Russia. The entire modern nation of Russia (plus other now-independent nations adjoining it that were within the USSR's 1941 borders) would be replacing the USSR, with its modern population, industry, infrastructure and so on, not merely the military element going back and trying to be supported by the civilians, industry and so on of the 1941 USSR. While international things would be very disrupted (to get anything they didn't make themselves, modern Russia would have to try to establish trade with very confused and probably very distrustful 1941 nations outside their borders), the short-term technology gap would make the Russians unstoppable if they used their initial reserves of resources wisely and exploited the sheer terror it would inflict on the Germans, who already severely underestimated the historical Red Army and would be completely blindsided by the modern technology of present day Russia. Also, as modern Russia has a modern nuclear arsenal, they could easily use that to take out the entire 1941 Axis if more conventional combat was too costly in terms of fuel or other supplies that the Russians were running short of.
@DamonNomad82 my point still stands. Also, it is just Russia, as the map show, it doesn't include what are now independent countries. You still have a problem, even if it did. Modern Russia is still dependent on all kinds of things that will not be available in 1941 parts, chemicals, and numerous other things for its equipment that are made outside of Russia. To get a better understanding look at what is already being embargod and what alot of people are demanding be embargod.
Whatever stockpile they have is all they will have thereas well. This was also before they invaded Ukraine for the 2nd time. The number of equipment breakdowns was enormous. Poor maintenance and lack of spare parts availability was overcome eventually. But it required importation of numerous items. The bridges outside of Russia are still not made for Russian tanks. Admittedly, a good bit better than Western modern tanks would. But not a big deal for most of the way to Germany.
Distrustful would be understatement, more likely to be viewed as a bigger threat than the Nazis. Russia/Soviets do not have very good historical relationships outside very few countries.
It's unknown how many functional nuclear weapons Russia really has, the up keep of the claimed number far exceed Russia military budget. Nuclear weapons, unlike regular weapons, need a lot of maintenance to keep them operational. Some of that has to be imported, and I believe the most important item isn't even being mined yet, much less processed. A number of Russian p
Wonder if they'd run in to the problems mil sim people find with time travel scenarios, for instance, WWII prop planes put out so little heat compared to modern planes that IR missiles have a hard time locking on.
DCS, one of the more realistic flight sims out there, does not seem to have any problems of missiles locking onto props except maybe the earliest R-3 and AIM-9
@@TheNicestPig Yeah, they were talking about that issue in a DCS video was watching on YT a while back.
Ir missiles had trouble in like, the 60s. By the 80s, that wasn't a problem anymore.
@@thelordofcringe fair enough. I watch Grim Reapers what if videos, and I remembered them saying something like that in I think a time traveling super carrier taking on the Pearl Harbor attack fleet, though it might have been a different video of theirs. Might of been stuck in older munitions though given the planes they were using in the specific scenario, I dunno.
@@16randomcharacters Very possibly. Early 70s was when air to air missiles became reliable just against jets, so even missiles invented late 70s could still be unavailable in the 80s, to some planes at least. Idk what the navy uses today, but I'd assume its the same as the air force, in which case they should be fine. Especially in the cold air of the eastern front, and with german planes which ran hot.
Didn't see the vid yet but it is more : how long could Germany last against modern Russia? How to produce weapons if all factories got destroyed - not even by modern fighter but by long range missiles - how to have logistic while being attacked every time ? (maybe guns you can make them in some caves, but tanks, fighter-bombers, artillery ?)
Can German fighter go to high altitude to shot Russian bombers?
Can they avoid modern AA missiles?
3:52 Kaliningrad is a huge thorn in the German side though-even by modern standards, its a military fortress armed to the teeth and bristling with modern day defensive weapons of every kind. Germans would expend tons of manpower tryna take it and failing
Yes, even among the civilian population there are many armed militias that are preparing bunkers and trenches. Given the huge accumulation of german forces, their losses would be colossal
@@mrditkovich5817yeah Kaliningrad alone probably has the firepower to completely destroy army group north, especially if resupplied by sea and air, and buy enough time for Russian special forces to arm Ukrainian and Belorussian forces and civilians with AK-47s and RPGs. That alone slows down the German advance fast enough for the Russian army to get ready
@@bensonfang1868 And if we take into account the fact that modern Russia is in a war, and they are already mobilized, the war against Germany will probably last 1 month or so.
@@mrditkovich5817yeah and even if Russia overall isnât mobilized, Kaliningrad itself is always on high alert
@@bensonfang1868 Without considering their stockpiles of cold war tanks which would be far superior to the german ones
Expect that German Farmers with Tractors pulling empty Russian T-90As MBT stuck at a mud
If modern Russia traveled to 1941 it would run out of fuel in 1990.
Omg this was a good one lol
They probably would plan on world domination to prevent USA dominance. They have a chance to succeed in this case, considering they would have a large technological advantage.
Coments here are kind of dumb, those advance military euipments and military tactics can easily demolish nazis who have like far inferior equipments.
Agreed.
The Russian military never left 1941.
Yes it did under General Zhukov. When he was removed from Power the Russian military went right back to 1941 and they took precautions to make sure there would not be another Zhukov
Ah Germany. The country that lost the war due to poor logistics and resources management. Wait, that sounds familiar...
We had a far better logistic than russia today. German Blitzkrieg has worked too
You seriously think Russia is losing the war?
@@nickandersson4165 Right. Nothing to be proud of, but history books will compare it. From june 22nd to july 9th 1941 the Wehrmacht made it from Brest to the Dnepr, 450 km (more than the distance between Belarus and Moldowa). Then they slowed down to 5 km a day, then slower. In December 1941 though, they passed Tula - 1.000 km from the start. Hands down, incredible. Outcomes are difficult to predict. But Germany definetly was better in logistics.
I don't always agree with their scenarios, but I still appreciate the effort they put into it.
with all respect binkov, such scenarios doesnt make sense. its the same as for example modern usa gets back in time to 1941. the adversary doesnt stand a chance. it would be more interesting if for example modern germany went back to 1939.
Modern Germany wouldn't be fighting the Allies though
Modern Germany curbstomps the Soviets then Italy and Japan
@@christiandauz3742 hmm, i didnt think about it. lets say that the modern germans wanted to help hitler win.
@@ussindianapolis487
Beyond unrealistic. Modern Germans kill all the Nazis/Fascists/KKK in bloodlust-fury
@@christiandauz3742 true but binkov already did that in modern luftwaffe in 1940.
@@ussindianapolis487
I don't like those scenarios
I like the ones that make sense and get a lot of Nazis killed
Thanks a lot for making this, I always wondered about this scenario but I didn't have that much knowledge of History to imagine how it would play out.
The technology difference would end the war quickly
20-30 years gap in tech is significant, but that only matters if you can put fuel into the tanks of the tanks.
@@demomanchaos You forget. Stalin did the same stupid things in the first year. In any event, it wouldn't matter. The rapid German spearheads would advance to the Russian tank line - to get the surprise of their short lives.
Once the modern tech got going, the Germans would not stand a chance.
Based on how Russian Troops have performed recently, you might have to review this.
You mean them having air superiority in Ukraine and haven't lost a single battle yet?
I Don't think that's bad
Putin believed in his own propaganda about the alleged Bandera in Ukraine, and thinking that the Ukrainian people were suppressed by their state, Putin expected to take Ukraine in 3 days. This is evidenced by the words of Russian propaganda (I live in Russia), as well as the situation at the front now. Russian military command apparently didn't prepared sufficient supplies, and the Russian troops don't have any numerical superiority over the Ukrainian army, although the attacking side suffers greater losses than the defending side. At the same time, Ukrainians have high morale, and Russians are demoralized and don't want to fight with the fraternal people. The Russian army is advancing without normal supplies and doesn't actually establish control over the territory, moving with the help of convoys vulnerable to ambushes on the roads. And after 2 weeks, the Russian army got bogged down, having just reached Ukrainian cities and achieved average success - Kherson and Melitopol were occupied, Mariupol and Chernihiv were taken in encirclements. There is no supply in the encirclements. And the Ukrainian troops in the encirclements are doomed.
Russia need to reinforce the Ukrainian theather and form the frontline, stopping the attack by roads and establishing control over the territories. Russians need to build supply infastructure. When Russians doing this, Ukrainians would have opportunity to mobilize manpower and counterattack. Russia would win this war, but there would be high casualities from both sides and the war would last for a long time. Of course, the real fighting capability of a Russian army is much and much higher, Russians showed themselves not well in Ukraine only because of small numbers, low motivation of Russian soldiers to fight against brother people, and poor supplies, because Russian command wanted to take Ukraine in 3 days.
There is possibility that Russia would accept a peace threaty, like in 2008 - when Russia didn't fully conquerred Georgia and peace threaty was made. The only difference, is that Russian army in 2008 wasn't defeated.
@@chrisklitou7573 lost heaps of tanks and quite a few aircraft and thousands dead đ€·đ»ââïž yeah they are tactically inept. Lucky nato ainât involved or else theyâd be in Moscow by June
@@Arvivez NATO are lucky China and Russia don't team
@@Arvivez you realize the numbers ukraine gave are propaganda? I saw numbers as high as 15000 dead russian soldiers. And russia claimed 500 dead....
There is propaganda on every side so there is no way of knowing anything now
Russia planned on ukranians welcoming them with open arms
Putin sent reserves 18-25 years old
Children
Instead of the Germans, the Russians would probably get stuck in the mud or without fuel themselves.
Russia don't have fuel? Are you serious?
@@arty5876 So why they are leaving tanks empty?
Quality or quantity?
Quality wins
Probably quantity AND quality with russia. Due to their numerous t-72s tanks and such more.
@@notassortedstuff plus Russia is resource self sufficient and has more manpower than Germany
@@yeetyeet5079 if it added with the PREVIOUS ussr. So, real.
It depends on the quality diffrence: 1000 soldiers from the 70s would win against 100 soldiers from the 90s but 100 soldiers from the 90s would win against 10000 soldiers from the middleage.
In this case (modern Russia vs WW2 germany) quality would win.
More realistic question. What if modern Russia time traveled to 1941? would it win against Winter War Finland?
bro dont kick a dead horse, its already dead in current world
@@linnymiddy Binkov has been putting out multiple videos pumping up the image of the Russian army in direct contradiction to what reality is telling us today. I'm merely saying that Russia couldn't hope to have the logistics to invade 1940's Europe, it could well be bogged down in Finland.
I just question Binkov's credibility at this point.
@@flyboymb
You're full of shit
It's like Zulus vs Spetsnazs with Hind Helicopters!
@@flyboymb
You're full of shit
It's like Zulus vs Spetsnazs with Hind Helicopters!
â@flyboymb russia expected a quick war against Ukraine. And Ukraine is being aided by most of the world, while Russia alone with Finland would destroy them. The Finns are de adwould b
"decades and decades modern day weapons" doubt
Much of Russias equipment may be outdated by our standards. But that same equipment in 1941, would shred through everything like paper.
What you mean by outdated? Russian arms tech is actually much better then whole asian,african and europe (yes NATO joint Europe as western Europe uses American parts and asian microchip)
@@Constantlybusyimproving I mean compared to America.
So many people are stupid and calls this propaganda...
Being put on the defensive at the start would definitely ameliorate a lot of the weaknesses that we're witnessing in Ukraine right now. The Russian's would benefit from their interior logistics, which are a lot more capable of moving supplies, and it's wildly easier to get quickly trained conscripts to fight like demons against an invading army as you mass mobilize the entire nation.
Even the dated Russian gear would be leaps and bounds above what the Nazis have access to. And I'm pretty sure the Nazis don't have nearly enough tractors to shift the odds.
đyou fr? Why is that even a question?
the people vote for it, is called democracy
@@migueltejada2776 I love democracy. I love the Republic.
Putin is so smart that he is in 5th-dimensional planning on Ukraine because his denazifying them ahead before the time travel event.
If they couldn't that would be pretty fucking sad with all the modern equipment at their disposal .
The problem I see with these time travel scenarios is why the older country would keep funneling resources into something pointless. If the Luftwaffe is getting liquified from attacks they can't even see coming and therefore accomplishing nothing, why would the Germans even bother putting up more planes?
Because they would have no choice. Hitler would demand it until the Russians were at his doorstep.
because allowing the russians uncontested air supremacy is a bad idea, even if you are hopelessly outmatched.
@@matthewbarabas3052 With missiles that can hit you from further away than you can even perceive, from altitudes you can't reach, they basically are uncontested.
@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva so idk if u would get this but even today ukrainian aircraft are also fighting russians when they are hopelessly outclassed....what i mean is that u always need aircover not just to fight but also for reconnaisance and other missions
@@AdityaSingh-fy5vv I "get" the idiotic point you're driving at, moron.
The difference is that today's Ukrainian planes are actually capable of engaging with Russian ones even if they're outmatched. WWII era propeller craft can literally do nothing against modern air power and would only be semi useful for kamikaze attacks on large ground/water targets, if that.
"Infantry capable of fighting in night"... yeah doesn't seem like it.
It does since they are winning with less than half of the troops that ukraine has đ€Ł
they got sanctioned so much that they got time traveled
They should go back in time to 700
Depends, if Putin was in charge, they'd still be stuck in traffic.
well unlike ukraine the german have excuses thogh not blowing them up since they dont get force feed the whoule world satilite and intelegence data ,-))))). thogh logistics would be a mess while trainlines existed the state of road networks wouldnt be anywere near compareable outside telepoted rushia.
Next: What if Modern Russia and Modern Germany both went back in time to 1942 and fought each other . No nukes. đ€Ș
A better video. Although as things stand Germany's army wouldn't really function on that scale, if we give Germany two years to prepare it would be more interesting
I do think that they would definitely truce and go as allied and definitely go for world domination
This is like a Alexander the great vs. modern Danish army What If. He would be oblitterated despite low Danish numbers because of their technological superiority and guns that go "brrrrr". Past merits it little to go by.
This topic were clearly chosen by armchair historians with a WW2 Germany power fetish.
If Modern Denmark went back in time to 340 BCE, then the world would be in a much better place!
I mean yeah theyâd win, but itâs a bad sign when nowadays you have to think about it for even a moment and ask the question with a straight face.
Here's an idea for a vs. video: one loosing country near the end of a war vs. A winning country in the beginning of that same war. It will give some perspective of just how quickly war-time mobolization(conscription) , production, and advancements in technology and tactics change and how devastating those changes actually are when they're not being equally countered in the moment by an equally experienced aponent.
Like how your enemies shape you with lessons learned. How ancient cultures who went on the war path and conquered people whom lacked any understanding of the previous methods employed by the invaders and thus defensive strategies never evolve and nations fell to the equivalent of spamming the fireball and kick in street fighter.