Turn Any Guitar into a Guitar Synthesiser - Jam Origin MIDI Guitar 2
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Nice, thanks for the showcase!
Playing orchestral instruments sounds amazing. Definitely gonna give it a try
Glad you found it useful!
Great video, really enjoyed learning about Midi Guitar. Thanks Darren!
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
Incredible! I'm sold!
Excellent down to earth demo. I can't believe there is no hardware which can do this. I have to buy this! Thank you sir.
You're welcome. Glad you found it useful!
check out the Jam stick
roland has midi pick-up for years
Thanks for posting this!
No problem!
thanks man, really good review
Glad you liked it! 👍
Like anything else, practice makes perfect. It's easy to get frustrated at first but perseverance pays off.
I prefer using it in Gig Performer 3 for a live setup. 👍😎
Yes, I've heard good things about Gig Performer!
Awesome vid:). Can you record the midi live or do you have to record guitar first?
Either way. So, if you arm the MIDI channel, it will record the MIDI data or you can just record the audio performance.
Nice video
Great Video!! What if you wanted to use this live? Did you first run the 1/4" jack with audio from the guitar through an audio interface (like for recording)? I was hoping for something or some way to use it with an iPad; however I didn't want a ton of extra gear like an audio card.
Well you could use a laptop, though you’ll be happy to know this is available www.jamorigin.com/products/midi-guitar-for-ios/
Very good!
Thank you! Cheers! 👍
Thanks a lot!
You're welcome!
great vid man was just about to ask if I can use Kontakt with this and then I saw you using it...thanks!!!! I do have a question though do I have to change anything in kontakt for this to work or just select what sounds I wanna use and off you go?.....have a good one
It's easy to set up. You just need to have an instance of Kontakt in the channel strip next to MIDI Guitar 2 and make sure it is getting the MIDI in from the other plugin. If it was difficult to use, I wouldn't be using it!
@@DarrenLockMusic thanks man
Hello. Something is wrong. Even when selecting the tones, the clean guitar sound comes out along with the chosen tone. I've tried adjusting the mix, but it didn't solve the problem. Do you know how to fix this?
Nope!
Do you know how well this program tracks complicated chords like 6 note chords and altered dominants? Or tight intervals like minor seconds?
Nope...not a clue... 😂😂😂 If you want accuracy, play a keyboard...
great video man! i feel silly asking, but may i ask what albums those are hung up on your wall? i really like the artwork on both of them.
To the right, “In the Land of Grey and Pink” by Caravan and to the left, an EP of Laurie Anderosn’s United States of America box set.
@@DarrenLockMusic thank you so much!
You’re welcome! 👍
Hi, a question please. With this way, can i write on mu daw like fl studio? I explain better, can compose on the piano roll of fl studio? thanks
I don’t use FL Studio, sorry! 👍
Did you have problems with chords? Particularly major 7th intervals? For me it was constantly jumping around when i played it, especially when open strings were involved. Great monophonic response though!
My advice, as per usual, when it comes to ANY kind of pitch-to-MIDI conversion is if you want total accuracy, use a keyboard. There will always be tracking issues and you'll have to adapt your playing style to the technology, not the other way around. So any problems you are experiencing are to be expected as I've never found a system that is 100% without compromise.
@@DarrenLockMusic Yeah that's fair. Ben using the AXON AX 100 for years now and it's much better for polyphonic stuff. I do have a sneaking suspicion that one day a plugin like this will have perfect tracking. Thanks for the video!
Indeed, as computers get faster and have more spare processing capacity (I'm thinking of those Apple M1 chips), I do believe that will happen. But it won't be a hardware solution, it will be a software solution. But I imagine it won't necessarily be a guitar product, but more a pitch-to-midi application you might find in software such as Ableton. Stay inspired!
Thanks for the video how well does this track compared to hardwares likes of GK3 or FTP?
I see zero benefit of buying a hardware MIDI guitar interface these days when you can do pitch to MIDI like this. The same goes for guitar pedals in general when you can do it all in BIAS FX 2.
I see you have Kontakt Strummed Acoustic. I’d like to be able to realistically trigger that via Jam Origin. Have you tried that? Thanks for the video.
I am afraid that it's even possible. It could, but not realistic.
Would this be a good product to use your guitar in conjunction with a good quality bass vst? Im doing Latin jazz and I have a decent jazzbox and a decent percussion section (Toontrack Latin Cuban percussion), but pitch shifting my guitar with amplitube sounds a bit weak and I don't know how to access a good bass guitar vst without a fishman or something equally pricey
Yes, that could work.
... Consider Craigslist. You might be travelling (hence having issues carrying it around), want to focus exclusively on guitar as part of your regimen, have health issues, small hands, or have any other reasons.
But if its price, don't ignore pawn shops, garage sales and the like.
Its a nice thing feeling a small tremor every time you strum an open string. Also, the mass of these strings can can help guide your composition and give you some killer sustain that is worth experiencing.
You sir are a genius!! (meh tips hat) ...now i dont need a stinkin keyboard!! Can you run signsl back out to hardware synth like Deepmind 12D?? great stuff thank you.. Wait oh no please tell me that plugin isnt ios/mac only!!
Yes, you can route the MIDI out to hardware. It is available for PC. (Not sure about Android)
Can you do a video or explain how you use in your DAW? I couldn't understand the thing with the channel strip
That’s how you use it in your DAW, as an effect on the channel strip.
sick
if I replace the synthesiser VST by a Guitar VST will it works ?
Nope...
I just got this, oh my god this is game changing
Yay! I hope you're having fun with it And then go onto Positive Grid's BIAS FX 2 and then you'll ditch your amps and guitar gear.
@@DarrenLockMusic i'm using it with MODO BASS, it's crazy
@@DarrenLockMusic i'm currently using amplitube, if you ever used both tell me which one you prefer!
I use Bias FX 2, myself.
Hey! Thanks for the tips... I used this software today for the first time and yeah... It's pretty good for making some sounds and messing around... But then I tried recording something and yeah it was having problems with that high E string... Everything had to be very staccato so it barely captured it... I'm wondering if I should buy a midi pickup or not because I don't want to be disappointed with that... Any experience with midi pickups??
Yes, plenty experience of MIDI guitar. I used the Roland GK equipment for 26 years and quit it last year. It's expensive and quite a folly (IMHO).
@@DarrenLockMusic Hi Darren, thanks for the reply... There's actually a bit of a trend I see where people with experience in Midi playing on guitar say it's a bit of a gimmick, very expensive etc. I just wanted to make sure I'm hearing you correctly though... I was wondering if you would say a Roland GK3 would pick up the notes and durations quite better than the software only option would? The software is a good way to get my feet wet in this style...
Any better? Ooooh, that's a complicated question. You do have to adapt your playing style no matter what way you try to do MIDI guitar. You will get different results on different guitars. Don't expect to "shred" and the MIDI pickup to track you. Even if you play the same thing multiple times, sometimes it may track differently. The MIDI pickups have improved since the GK2 & GK2A - the RMC piezo pickups are tight, but then you've also got the Fishman Tripeplay systems to consider. But if you want something that you will fuck around endlessly fiddling with, then MIDI guitar is the life path for you. Alternatively, consider pedals that transform your guitar audio to synthy style like the Electro Harmonix ones. The best advice would be to actually go to a music shop and try one of these systems and you'll see for yourself if it is the sort of thing you want to waste your time and money on. Then ask yourself: is this really going to serve me and my music creation? Now, there are so many other cheaper and more fun options (like Guitar MIDI 2 and the plugin of your choice or hardware pedals that mimic synths - like the Synth 9). But personally, I wouldn't advise anyone to go down the hardware MIDI guitar route...not because of tracking accuracy, but because one day you'll wake up find that Roland no longer supports the hardware you've purchased!!!
Hahaha interesting insights!! Thank you for taking the time to replay and the detail of your response... Some great tips there... It's something I'll definitely not rush into... I guess the main driving force has been my lack of keyboard skills but I haven't been practicing either haha so lots to take into account!
Its quite easy to create these "quick reviews" of gear when there is so much more information lacking. I have a MacBook Pro Retina and a Focusright 18i8 Interface so I'm not running some old system with Logic Pro X. I'm running Tons of Amplitube FX from TRacks for MIxing and you have to figure out the latency when I'm running 4,5,6 plugs ins! Unless your some computer "geek" who knows all about MIDI and find it hard to explain to people the setup, latency, channel setup, its going to be frustrating for you and feeling stupid after spending 100 bucks on this! After seeing there is a newer version of Roland MIDI pickup I'd wish I knew this before coughing up 100 bucks to pay for this. If I was you, or anyone reading this, save your money and buy the Roland MIDI device and save yourself headaches figuring out latency of the incompetency of people posting these fantasy everything is going to be perfect as soon as you plug in your instrument and whale away at your guitar to sound like a massive church pipe organ! I have watched tons and tons of You tube videos and VERY VERY VERY few people take any time to show videos on how to set these things up, they all do the same crap... review the sounds! It took me hours last night to set up my MDI Guitar to run on Logic Pro and open up another program like T Racks to run other Synth sounds because the MIDI Guitar App is a bit lame on the Synth sounds! Try overlapping a few Synth sounds on your DAW track and your going to get it to crash! It crashed on me several times and there are features on Logic Pro pertaining to latency NOT JUST ADJUSTING THE BUFFER SIZE! I'm going to work on this again later today so I can fix this/these problems before buying what I think I should of at first but did not know there was such one and that is.. a Roland MID device to your guitar. If you just want to take your music to a "hobby" level then this plug in app is for you but taken your music serious is worth spending 200+ for the Roland device! I'm sure you will have to adjust latency with the Roland pick up but at least your much closer to reducing your headache using the MIDI pickup and not fool like a "jack ass" after spending 100 bucks on a plug in app where even the instructions are lame! Gee, I feel compelled ot do a video on this and with thiese words! In fact, you know what? I am! If anyone wants to see it, goto my channel in a few days or even week and I'll have one done very extensive and fully informative and NOT just a "oh check this out.. ok, so thats my review." If you want to learn, go to my channel and hopefully we can work on fixing THE DREADED LATENCY DEMON! Gee, I just found my tittle also. Imagine that! im at HEADBANGER MINISTRIES You Tube Channel. I wrote this because I'm pissed at so many You tube videos being lame and focus on just how it sounds. A l of us are stoopid and we need help, like me! Duh!
Hey can we use jam origin midi guitar for live performance??
I can’t see why not.
hi darren great video and thanks. i have a question. the audio signal from the guitar, can you alter the attack decay sustain release (ADSR)? i just thought that if im using the guitar to trigger a slow synth string ,it would good to actually get the audio from the guitar strings to match the ADSR off the slow synth if you know what i mean. cheers
No…
@@DarrenLockMusic afraid your wrong. i found a way last night using a series of effects. your right as in you cant directly affect the main audio signal but it is possible plus a friend is giving me a zoom 1010 multi effects that has a patch which you can adjust the ADSR . but thanks for your reply
I'm not wrong. You need the cleanest, loudest (without distortion) signal from the guitar to the plugin in order to get the best response. I don't understand why you'd want to alter the ADSR to match a synth patch. That would be counter productive. But hey, I've been using guitar synths for about thirty years now...so don't listen to me. I know nothing!
@@DarrenLockMusic why would i want to play with the ADSR on the original signal ? i have been into modular synthesis about 20 or so years now . max control creativity and experimentation is the word im looking for i guess.
in the 90s i had this zoom multi effects pedal. on one of the patches you could add distortion and also alter the ADSR i remember making a sound with a very slow attack rate and release . it sounded effing awesome when playing harmonics through it , i then made a slow orchestral string with low cutoff frequency and max resonance creating a type of harmonic sound on my JV1080, i played the same notes for the orchestral string to match the guitar then bounced them to one track . i added the sound to an ambiant track i was making and i then used the finished product for my leeds uni music tech interview. well it got me in uni and the ambi track was actually used by my lecturer in a few lessons as an example of creativity for other students who were fixated on the 4 to the floor bass line and synth tunes . why would you want to change the ADSR ? why not ?
Is a behringer umc404hd enough to run this and record midi from vsts?
Should work with any audio interface.
Is this software less/more percise than a hex pickup like the FTP? I tried this software and it's completely messy and glitchy and more annoying than helpful. I am considering getting the FTP connect as it seems more suited for what I am doing and seems to track better. The thing I wonder about is whether the FTP is equally as "good" as MGII, or whether it actually tracks better and more precisely and cleanly? Most people on YT don't seem to push these devices hard enough, so it's hard to tell how it would fair in my situation, as most of what people play is slow chords/strumming or slow stuff, as opposed to fast thrash riffing, which is what I am doing.
You will never be totally happy with guitar to MIDI. If you want to spend money on hardware that will age, lose support, go wrong and never quite satisfies you, then go ahead. There’s a whole rabbit hole for you to waste your time, money and music making efforts on. This is a good compromise for those who are not looking for perfection, because from what you’ve said, you will never be able to achieve what you think MIDI guitar promises. Also, you do have to adjust your playing style to get half decent results with MIDI guitar. Or you could just spend the time learning the keyboard… 😂😂😂
i would appreciate if u could help met out. Why when i play do i get other notes that play too? i get double notes for every note almost
You might need to adjust the sensitivity.
@@DarrenLockMusic How do i do that?
Have a read of the online manual. All the details are there. 👍
do you need to purchase the official version to record ?? can someone help with how to set it up and if in fact i do need to play 150 bucks for it? i keep reading hearing people pay 35 bucks , i go to the website and they wanna charge me 150 bucks..what is the deal? I got the trial version i can somehow make it work but cannot record the actual synth sound, it just plays as normal guitar sound , help please/
I had to pay for it, so I would assume everyone else has to pay for it! 😂😂😂
Hi I just bought this program and I also use logic pro den but I have not found any video of someone doing a setup for latency. It is absolutely annoying to keep hearing latency and had my program logic even crash numerous times. I run the program and I run T-Rex from amplitube or centronics. I still don't really even understand how to set it up well but the latency is just a nightmare is there any way you could do a video on how to set that up with logic but very detailed please? I feel like I spent $100 for nothing cuz how can anyone play comfortably and write music and get all of this insane latency and crashing and the website for the company doesn't really even show you anything and it really sucks cuz a hundred bucks is a lot of money.
Latency? I’m using the software with its opening presets. No crashes, no issues, no nothing. If it’s audio latency, you might either want to consider upgrading your Mac or audio interface.
friend is compatible with kontakt 6 libraries
You can use this with any VST/AU plug-in! 👍
Damnit I just bought A Fishman tripleplay connect
I noticed that my high output EMG pickups sound a lot better than my low output single coil Strat. But be warned that it will pick up any errors that a player may make.
Yup…
How to connect guitar to it
Just a regular cable from your guitar to your audio interface.
@@DarrenLockMusic thxx bro
@@DarrenLockMusic can we connect through 3.5mm pole ?
Sure...
@@DarrenLockMusic thank u so much😍😊😊❤
As a bedroom guitarist that just likes to noodle, this seems fun... can anyone direct me to a website/video to detail what I would need from that angle, no interest in recording, just want it for shits n giggles.
You just need a guitar, a cable from the guitar into your computer and the software.
@@DarrenLockMusic cheers Darren, sounds too simple, lol.
That’s because it is! 😂😂😂
@@DarrenLockMusic downloaded the trial version, can confirm it was THAT easy.
if someone on earth tried to use it with for actually record a vsti Guitar, with fast strumming, fast attack? You know, recording a progression chords like we usually do as a guitar player...
Or you could just record yourself playing guitar? 🤔
@@DarrenLockMusic i want record a acoustic guitar. I don't have a good acoustic guitar, don't have a good microphone, don't have a acoustically traited room, so vsti acoustic guitar should be perfect here...i thought that this software, for guitarist, was meant to record a regular guitar track, with full chords, regular strumming pattern...hell, i was fool!
Oh, OK…sure…why not?
@@DarrenLockMusic hi darren, because i tried, and it is a total mess. Bad timing, missed notes, added notes. I think It is a known issue. The technology is not ready for this. Did you try to record this type of track with midi guitar 2? Full chords, 6 strings, a good strumming pattern?
You can't do that. You wouldn't be able to do that satisfactorily with a hardware synth pedal. You'd need to use a guitar modelling system like a Roland GP-10 or VG-99. MIDI guitar has many limitations and isn't really a replacement for a MIDI keyboard or anything else. It's a fool's folly trying to push the technology into the realms of fantasy.
Oiii!! ROLAND....NO!! Comin in my home wiv yer synathis non gratis!! you need a SLAP!! and severe Admonishment..NO!!!
Ha ha ha! I actually get that reference! 👍😬
@@DarrenLockMusic I thought you might! Anyway thanks for the Tut, I'm trying to get some saxaphone happening, its a work in progress.
Hey Darren, I watch you recent reviews or prog releases and stumbled on this content. Actually, I installed Midi Guitar 2 for a couple of days and I wanted to see what kind of VST people are getting, I have mostly amp sims for guitar and none for synths.
I have actually downloaded for music notation purposes, It's counter productive for me to write note by note of my songs in a notation software and honestly prefer to import the midi stems. Maybe I'll be looking over for the KORG one you have showcased. Thanks man!
Hey, glad you found it useful! 👍