Because of other tactics or because it opens up the position and gives some air to breathe for the opponent. Sometimes it could have a counter tactic or you cash in too soon. Or there are 2 tactics and only 1 of them wins
@@passtheyaoi For eg. if the transformation gives the opponent way too much compensation. This is so common when you are bullying your opponent by talking all the space. If you take the piece in the wrong way, you may give up the advantage and make it a draw.
Great series Nelson, keep it up! The puzzle 2 showed us that defense goes a long way, and puzzle 3 showed us the value of patience. There's not always a fancy tactic knockout and not enough channels express that.
Thank you for including a non-tactical position (with #2), I really liked that! Maybe you could have a tactical position half of the time and a non-tactical position half the time (randomly) to keep us on our toes.
I don't think the position is 'non-tactical' at all, the only difference is you have to identify black's tactics (the bishop sacrifice) instead of a tactic for yourself.
@@jasonslade6259 Yes, it's hard to see how eminate Black's play is. My suggestion was 1. b4, because I didn't understand the urge of making defencive moves right now. My over-the-board rating is 1844.
You're right, I almost forgot to play due to missing to notification and not seen the push video. I had to go back to your channel to find it and play quiz 8. No problem for the stats, makes complete sense to do it this way.
This was actually very instructive honestly. Cuddos to those who found f4! The third position makes sense as well, with the goal to put pressure on the backwards pawn weakness, but contrary to the queen and rook combo (my answer), you focus on it with your weakest pieces first (knight and rook) and you can also lift the rook and double potentially. These subtleties are what makes good players become great players! Thanks for this, I like it very much.
Not only is f4 nuts... but blacks attack of Rf3 is also nuts! No idea how anyone see's that. The attacks on f2 are easy to see, but seeing that shift to attacking h3 is mind blowing to me!
Thanks Nelson this was super instructive. I have so many games that become like position 3, so just hearing your thought process on what to do was great (though maybe not necessary to put the multiple choice answers...I would've liked to think about that on my own)
The last position was the most interesting. White has a space advantage. As I'm a positional player, instinct says avoid exchanges as exchanges open lines for enemy activity. My thought would be to infiltrate another piece onto the fifth rank, by moving my Knight to attack the enemy's Knight pawn. Forcing a pawn advance then enables my Knight to gain a second fifth rank outpost. This in turn forces the repositioning of Black's Queen. Eventually Black's position will become too cramped and the resulting exchanges can be manipulated to my advantage.
I think some people, like me, didn't submit their answers this week because the position were less obvious. I just couldn't find a good move so I didn't want to submit something random. But I love this series, and I love watching what other people answered, what the best moves are and NM Nelson teaching us the whole logic behind each answer. Thank you! Please make more of these weekly quizzes! 😊 (I will participate, as long as I think I have a good answer)
These quizzes are fun and a good way to improve. I found the top 2 Stockfish on all the quizzes except the knight g1 move on a separate video. That was not a natural move for me. It would be great if the series continues. The results and Stockfish evaluation at the end are valuable.
Glad he looked at the Na3 in depth. As long as black does anything but defend the b5 square (not pawn necessarily) then white is in a good move. Was the only move I really liked because it's a move highly likely to be an inaccuracy for your opponent if they push the pawn. Just moving the knight to b5 is great because black's forced to do something about the attack on the queen and then you can develop. Pushing the a or even the c pawn would be great. Suddenly Black needs to play carefully as well.
As a lower rated player I was happy to find f4 on the second one when most did not. The third position I also went f4. My thinking was it opens up lines for my rook and queen. More of a long-term plan, since the opponents position was so well defended. I also noticed when black captures the pawn, it lines up my bishop with their backwards pawn and queen. Unfortunately, in my head I missed the knight hop into the weakened square. Although it was not SF’s top choice, i’m glad to see it was still a relatively equal position. Great videos!
Congrats on over 50k subs. Keep up the good work. Please do a series on common opening mistakes of lower rated players or just common mistakes around the opening- middle game Also a lot of lower titles players don’t understand planning properly can you do something on that too. 🙏🏼
My primary reason for choosing f4 in Position 2 was one you didn't mention: I was concerned about the Black Knight ensconcing itself on d3 and wanted to close off its path thither by controlling e5.
This was a fantastic episode, position 2 was an interesting position, that encouraged you to play calmly and I loved the analysis, I would love more like it.
on the first problem, n-d5 was hoping to force an exchange - that black would capture with the knight. white could then sacrifice the rook rxd5, allowing white to push p-f6 on the next move. the goal was to eliminate the knight from inhabiting p-f6. but as you noted, black could capture with the bishop first, retaining the knight. i now see that b-d3 bxd3 RxD3 ... then allows the knight exchange to be forced on d5, with rxd5 threatening p-f6. but it's not forcing.
Nelson, fun series. But please take que evaluation bar away because you can see if its winning or its a draw (attackive or defending puzzle). Unless that one of the best series on yt!
I looked seriously at f4 but I didn't see a good path for white after Qg3 because the pawn could easily become unsupported after Bf2. I guess Qe1? Once I ruled out f4, f3 seemed like the natural action to kick out the Queen with Bf2 and the f pawn now supported.
I liked this quiz! It had a good mix of offense and defense, clear tactics and more strategic thinking. Also it was on the right level for me. Would be cool to find more tricksy positions where high rated players see something different from lower rated.
Nelson last week's quiz looks identical to the week before on mobile phone which is probably a large percentage of your viewers, I skipped it at first because it looked like one I'd already seen
the other idea behind f4 is preventing the knight and bishop from joining the attack giving white time and space to defend. the rook is cutting the bishop off and the knight has no forward movement to join the attack
For the third position, I thought the obvious idea was to move the dark squared bishop because your knight is better on that square. And sure enough, I checked alpha zero, and the top moves in this position are Bg1 or Bf2. It’s important to remember that stock fish is tactical and doesn’t understand positional positions.
I felt clever finding f4 as a 1450. My thoughts: - black has a scary battery at f2. Those rooks are a real problem. - often 'blocking' an attack angle here is a sharp idea. - F4 defuses the rook battery, any takes by black are bad. - en passant? The knight eats it AND the queen is threatened back. Seems good.
In position 2, Qe1 is a nice move because if black plays something else like Ne5, then white can play f4! Black cannot en-passant because the Q on h4 is hanging.
I really loved those position without clear tactics like #2 and #3. I feel like that's the part of my gameplay who has been developed the least and I often find myself making big mistakes in those equal positions. Would really appreciate if you keep using those kind of positions
for position 2: i think the main reason why stockfish likes f4 over f3 (what i thought was right) is that the black knight cant hop to e5, because if black takes en passant the white knight gets a nice position @f3 with tempo
Your theory about the video not being pushed is true. I haven’t seen one of these vids on my feed since quiz 6 and I’m just seeing this today (quiz 9 is already out)
I wonder if the drop in participation was partially due to the labor day holiday. I was busy this week because of that and didn't end up submitting a response.
I didn't enjoy quiz #8 as much as the previous ones. I think it was because the answers were more vague. Instead of finding a concrete solution to a puzzle (mate for instance), it was more about finding the move that was slightly better than the other options?
I didn't participate in this quiz and I usually do because I literally had NO idea what to play so I decided to wait for this video and simply see the solutions. Now that I watched it and understood the point actually was that there was no apparent good move and you just had to play something solid I feel a bit better that I didn't see anything to play 😂
I liked the second position a lot, and I picked b4 which apparently wasn't on other people's radars at all, and the engine says it's not good lol. I didn't see any good tactics for either color, I didn't really like the popular moves that lots of ppl chose (Qg4, g3, f3, and f4), and so I had this idea to play b4 then reposition the knight with Nb3 Nd4. Seemed like a really good improvement to White's position, but apparently it loses for the same reasons as Qe1. Man, Rf3 is a nasty move for black.
As always, appreciate the content! I can guess that fantasy football might have been a reason for lower participation this week... I know personally that I'm in 2 FF leagues and this being week 1 of the season a ton of the drafts and whatnot were this week. I still participated in the quiz but I can tell you that FF was definitely a big time consumer of my week. Just a thought...
On the first one, Nd5 people missed Bxd5. Otherwise, it's a fork on the queen and the knight. Obviously the queen has to move and white has Nxf6+, which forks king and rook. After Kh8, because of the pinned pawn, Nxd7, capturing a rook also. I considered it myself until I saw Bxd5.
I only got #2 right with Qg4. Funny how I don't see the other ideas until they're mentioned. But it's not funny when you're stuck around 1600 :( I kinda wish the ratings split at 1700 instead of 1600 for this reason. (Good idea to have only 3 rating sections. And you are right about the patience and "solid moves" solution)
1:57 it may be because youtube's algorithm literally isnt showing it to as many people. you could check this with your impressions. issues with impressions as far as i know may include less enticing titles or thumbnails and changing them to better capture what the algorithm looks for may be beneficial. if its because of clickthrough rate, then it may be a different issue such as people thinking the title/thumbnail aren't enticing, not seeing the video or maybe even a loss of interest. dont take my word too greatly though since im some random guy on the internet lol
Sad to hear the last video didn't do well. I would like at least the 2000+ category separated since these are experts and I'm 1600 but still hang mate in 1
I played Nd5 for this line. Nd5, Nxd5 - Rxd5, Bxd5 - f6. At this point it feels like you have a winning position with white. Didn't see the bishop could capture.
Position 1: OK, I didn't see the Bxg7 bit at all, very nice idea. (Taking the rook is still decent, though.) Still picked the correct move with the tactic. ;) Position 2: Qg4 gang here. I considered f4, but was a bit scared of opening things up like that. Black is attacking white and I was rightfully scared that white's pieces are elsewhere and not doing much on the king side, but I underestimated how quickly f4 brings _everything_ into the game. (I also considered Qe1 followed by f4 to trade queens that way, but decided I preferred Qg4 since it's more immediate. Never saw the Rf3 move, holy shit that's a disaster for white) Position 3: I went for the "f4 to trap bishop" plan, which seems OK, even if Stockfish slightly prefers Na3. That said, it's very obvious that black can reply with exf4 and trapping the bishop won't really happen, so my real idea was that I'd open up the position and bring in either the bishop or rook... I guess I just prefer a more open position, and f4 _forces_ that to happen, otherwise white does, indeed, trap the bishop.
Hey Nelson, since you group the ratings in the video why don't you make that question multiple choice on the form. Might make it easier for you? Anyway keep up the good work! 😀
Why not move the Knight on F5? If Black takes the Bishop on D5 with the Knight, we can take with Queen then look to capture Knight on C3 with our Queen, if possible. Once Black takes with the Queen, we capture on E2 and fork Black's King and Queen. In the end, we're just up material, no? If Black captures the Knight after we move to F5, can'tbwe just attack the kingside?
Well actually… Stockfish 14 at depth 30 thinks Na3 is a bad move in position 3 because you allow h5 by black with dangerous counterplay. That’s why it thinks you should either push a4 to strike first and bust open the queen side or play Ne3 to gain control over the f6 square. These kind of closed and complicated positions cannot be analyzed with the engine at a low depth. You have to reach at least depth 30 to have a clear idea of what might remotely be the best 2-3 I think Na3 is actually subpar from an human perspective too, because if you give time to black to start an attack on the kingside then he can easily shift some of the pieces over. While white is essentially blocked by is own pawns and has a hard time to move the pieces to defend the attack.
Perhaps Stockfish, or any AI, [1] saves and remembers each Chess Variation, [2] computes more levels in the background whenever it Has Nothing to Do [3] Returns Precomputed Results whenever possible. So when You ask again Later, the AI has Been Working on that Problem in the Meantime, and its Answer might Change.
maybe an idea u could add as a quiz "type": "estimate the following position according to stockfish (without checking stockfish of course): a)+1 b)+0,5 c)0.0 d)-0,5 e)-1,0" (as an example)"
By the way, when it asks about our chess rating, should I use my Daily rating, Rapid, Blitz, or what? Because Daily is ~1600, Rapid ~1400, Blitz ~1200, and Bullet ~1000 lol.
g4 is bad, black can just retreat the rook and play like Ne5 or h5 after (there might be something even better for black but this should already make you not wanna play g4)
This series is so fun, i hope you will continue it for along time!
I would like a quiz where the tactic is actually the wrong move.
how would that work? (im new to chess)
There have been ones like that I think
@@passtheyaoi a tactic that looks really good but is actually a mistake
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Because of other tactics or because it opens up the position and gives some air to breathe for the opponent. Sometimes it could have a counter tactic or you cash in too soon. Or there are 2 tactics and only 1 of them wins
@@passtheyaoi For eg. if the transformation gives the opponent way too much compensation. This is so common when you are bullying your opponent by talking all the space. If you take the piece in the wrong way, you may give up the advantage and make it a draw.
Great series Nelson, keep it up!
The puzzle 2 showed us that defense goes a long way, and puzzle 3 showed us the value of patience. There's not always a fancy tactic knockout and not enough channels express that.
I couldn't agree more! Really glad to see a puzzle like puzzle #2 in these videos.
So refreshing compared to traditional chess puzzles, which are all about finding the cool tactic that might not even exist in your actual games.
Thank you for including a non-tactical position (with #2), I really liked that! Maybe you could have a tactical position half of the time and a non-tactical position half the time (randomly) to keep us on our toes.
I don't think the position is 'non-tactical' at all, the only difference is you have to identify black's tactics (the bishop sacrifice) instead of a tactic for yourself.
@@jasonslade6259 Yes, it's hard to see how eminate Black's play is. My suggestion was 1. b4, because I didn't understand the urge of making defencive moves right now. My over-the-board rating is 1844.
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I hope more people start seeing the videos and participating again. This series is great!
This is one of my favorite series
You're right, I almost forgot to play due to missing to notification and not seen the push video. I had to go back to your channel to find it and play quiz 8. No problem for the stats, makes complete sense to do it this way.
Keep this quiz going! It is quite valuable to me. I am greatly encouraged to find that I often come up with the "correct" solution So many thanks!!!
This was actually very instructive honestly. Cuddos to those who found f4!
The third position makes sense as well, with the goal to put pressure on the backwards pawn weakness, but contrary to the queen and rook combo (my answer), you focus on it with your weakest pieces first (knight and rook) and you can also lift the rook and double potentially. These subtleties are what makes good players become great players! Thanks for this, I like it very much.
I found f4 but it also took a long look after not liking Qg4 Qf6, now you can't f4 anymore to stop Ne5.
It's kudos
Not only is f4 nuts... but blacks attack of Rf3 is also nuts! No idea how anyone see's that. The attacks on f2 are easy to see, but seeing that shift to attacking h3 is mind blowing to me!
Cuddos! LOL
Thanks Nelson this was super instructive. I have so many games that become like position 3, so just hearing your thought process on what to do was great (though maybe not necessary to put the multiple choice answers...I would've liked to think about that on my own)
This kind of video is really helping my game. Thanks Nelson!
The last position was the most interesting. White has a space advantage. As I'm a positional player, instinct says avoid exchanges as exchanges open lines for enemy activity. My thought would be to infiltrate another piece onto the fifth rank, by moving my Knight to attack the enemy's Knight pawn. Forcing a pawn advance then enables my Knight to gain a second fifth rank outpost. This in turn forces the repositioning of Black's Queen. Eventually Black's position will become too cramped and the resulting exchanges can be manipulated to my advantage.
Loved position 2! More equal positions and ones where we have to defend please!
I think some people, like me, didn't submit their answers this week because the position were less obvious.
I just couldn't find a good move so I didn't want to submit something random.
But I love this series, and I love watching what other people answered, what the best moves are and NM Nelson teaching us the whole logic behind each answer.
Thank you! Please make more of these weekly quizzes! 😊 (I will participate, as long as I think I have a good answer)
This episode is the best so far, really found instructive the last 2 positions and the first one was a not so obvious tactic, which is good.
Thank you so much for only 3 categories. Much smoother and more logical.
I like how the numbers right on the left of the match number is the actual quiz number in the Stockfish va viewer chart.
You are helping me improve at chess a lot,I managed to beat the Antonio bot and the Isabel bot,pls make more puzzles
Totally a "for the algorithm" comment, but I appreciate your efforts. Learning a lot from you.
These quizzes are fun and a good way to improve. I found the top 2 Stockfish on all the quizzes except the knight g1 move on a separate video. That was not a natural move for me. It would be great if the series continues. The results and Stockfish evaluation at the end are valuable.
Glad he looked at the Na3 in depth. As long as black does anything but defend the b5 square (not pawn necessarily) then white is in a good move. Was the only move I really liked because it's a move highly likely to be an inaccuracy for your opponent if they push the pawn. Just moving the knight to b5 is great because black's forced to do something about the attack on the queen and then you can develop. Pushing the a or even the c pawn would be great. Suddenly Black needs to play carefully as well.
This is the best series of chess videos on the internet!
Quite proud of myself, found all 3 best moves. I liked puzzles #2 and #3 particularly, keep them coming :)
Great explanations I feel like I’m learning much faster seeing the options combined with your commentary . Thank you 🙏
Great series, loved to participate here!
PS: Lichess tip: On analysis board you can use X button to show threats
Better 3xplanation than Agad or Gotham. Thank yOu 🙏.very good learning experience
As a lower rated player I was happy to find f4 on the second one when most did not. The third position I also went f4. My thinking was it opens up lines for my rook and queen. More of a long-term plan, since the opponents position was so well defended. I also noticed when black captures the pawn, it lines up my bishop with their backwards pawn and queen. Unfortunately, in my head I missed the knight hop into the weakened square.
Although it was not SF’s top choice, i’m glad to see it was still a relatively equal position.
Great videos!
Congrats on over 50k subs. Keep up the good work. Please do a series on common opening mistakes of lower rated players or just common mistakes around the opening- middle game
Also a lot of lower titles players don’t understand planning properly can you do something on that too. 🙏🏼
Love these quiz videos 👍✌️
My primary reason for choosing f4 in Position 2 was one you didn't mention: I was concerned about the Black Knight ensconcing itself on d3 and wanted to close off its path thither by controlling e5.
Like the equal positions!
I liked position 2. Defensive positions are very challenging.
This was a fantastic episode, position 2 was an interesting position, that encouraged you to play calmly and I loved the analysis, I would love more like it.
Excellent video again.
Hey! In the third position I removed knight from heavely occupied C-file, and I was in second category!
New subscriber here! So glad I found this channel.
Welcome!!
This the best keep going man and don’t worry about people and save your time
on the first problem, n-d5 was hoping to force an exchange - that black would capture with the knight. white could then sacrifice the rook rxd5, allowing white to push p-f6 on the next move. the goal was to eliminate the knight from inhabiting p-f6. but as you noted, black could capture with the bishop first, retaining the knight.
i now see that b-d3 bxd3 RxD3 ... then allows the knight exchange to be forced on d5, with rxd5 threatening p-f6. but it's not forcing.
Nelson, fun series. But please take que evaluation bar away because you can see if its winning or its a draw (attackive or defending puzzle).
Unless that one of the best series on yt!
I looked seriously at f4 but I didn't see a good path for white after Qg3 because the pawn could easily become unsupported after Bf2. I guess Qe1?
Once I ruled out f4, f3 seemed like the natural action to kick out the Queen with Bf2 and the f pawn now supported.
I liked this quiz! It had a good mix of offense and defense, clear tactics and more strategic thinking. Also it was on the right level for me. Would be cool to find more tricksy positions where high rated players see something different from lower rated.
i like the simplified way
Nelson last week's quiz looks identical to the week before on mobile phone which is probably a large percentage of your viewers, I skipped it at first because it looked like one I'd already seen
I really liked the idea of position 2
Kinda proud to be a mere 1150 rated new player and finding f4 on the second move :P took some time finding it though
the other idea behind f4 is preventing the knight and bishop from joining the attack giving white time and space to defend. the rook is cutting the bishop off and the knight has no forward movement to join the attack
For the third position, I thought the obvious idea was to move the dark squared bishop because your knight is better on that square. And sure enough, I checked alpha zero, and the top moves in this position are Bg1 or Bf2. It’s important to remember that stock fish is tactical and doesn’t understand positional positions.
I enjoy the equal positions to learn more about how higher rated players think about equal positions
I felt clever finding f4 as a 1450. My thoughts:
- black has a scary battery at f2. Those rooks are a real problem.
- often 'blocking' an attack angle here is a sharp idea.
- F4 defuses the rook battery, any takes by black are bad.
- en passant? The knight eats it AND the queen is threatened back. Seems good.
Very interesting, especially move 2. I would have liked that you, as a nm, say what your thinking process would have been in that position
In position 2, Qe1 is a nice move because if black plays something else like Ne5, then white can play f4!
Black cannot en-passant because the Q on h4 is hanging.
I really loved those position without clear tactics like #2 and #3. I feel like that's the part of my gameplay who has been developed the least and I often find myself making big mistakes in those equal positions. Would really appreciate if you keep using those kind of positions
for position 2:
i think the main reason why stockfish likes f4 over f3 (what i thought was right) is that the black knight cant hop to e5, because if black takes en passant the white knight gets a nice position @f3 with tempo
10:42 its actually a mate in 1, just move queen to g4
Your theory about the video not being pushed is true. I haven’t seen one of these vids on my feed since quiz 6 and I’m just seeing this today (quiz 9 is already out)
A very clever idea
The 600 has the right idea and the best one does to
1:Nd5 2:Qg4 3:Qd3 idk about the first one i think just forgot about the knight
A lot of schools started this week (for USA). It might have affected participation.
in the 2nd Position the analysis sais Qe1 is totally winning for black with -6.92 (depth 41)
I wonder if the drop in participation was partially due to the labor day holiday. I was busy this week because of that and didn't end up submitting a response.
I didn't enjoy quiz #8 as much as the previous ones. I think it was because the answers were more vague. Instead of finding a concrete solution to a puzzle (mate for instance), it was more about finding the move that was slightly better than the other options?
Nelson: I heard you wanted harder positions, so let's look at this one that confused stockfish
I didn't participate in this quiz and I usually do because I literally had NO idea what to play so I decided to wait for this video and simply see the solutions. Now that I watched it and understood the point actually was that there was no apparent good move and you just had to play something solid I feel a bit better that I didn't see anything to play 😂
great job young sir.
In the first quiz: Nd5 people were thinking about sacrificing the rook to push the pawn.
It may have worked if black took with the knight first
I liked the second position a lot, and I picked b4 which apparently wasn't on other people's radars at all, and the engine says it's not good lol. I didn't see any good tactics for either color, I didn't really like the popular moves that lots of ppl chose (Qg4, g3, f3, and f4), and so I had this idea to play b4 then reposition the knight with Nb3 Nd4. Seemed like a really good improvement to White's position, but apparently it loses for the same reasons as Qe1. Man, Rf3 is a nasty move for black.
As always, appreciate the content! I can guess that fantasy football might have been a reason for lower participation this week... I know personally that I'm in 2 FF leagues and this being week 1 of the season a ton of the drafts and whatnot were this week. I still participated in the quiz but I can tell you that FF was definitely a big time consumer of my week. Just a thought...
Good point!
On the first one, Nd5 people missed Bxd5. Otherwise, it's a fork on the queen and the knight. Obviously the queen has to move and white has Nxf6+, which forks king and rook. After Kh8, because of the pinned pawn, Nxd7, capturing a rook also.
I considered it myself until I saw Bxd5.
Position 3 is interesting. It was the only position I found the right solution and I'm under 1000 🤔
I only got #2 right with Qg4. Funny how I don't see the other ideas until they're mentioned. But it's not funny when you're stuck around 1600 :( I kinda wish the ratings split at 1700 instead of 1600 for this reason. (Good idea to have only 3 rating sections. And you are right about the patience and "solid moves" solution)
1:57 it may be because youtube's algorithm literally isnt showing it to as many people. you could check this with your impressions. issues with impressions as far as i know may include less enticing titles or thumbnails and changing them to better capture what the algorithm looks for may be beneficial. if its because of clickthrough rate, then it may be a different issue such as people thinking the title/thumbnail aren't enticing, not seeing the video or maybe even a loss of interest.
dont take my word too greatly though since im some random guy on the internet lol
Sad to hear the last video didn't do well. I would like at least the 2000+ category separated since these are experts and I'm 1600 but still hang mate in 1
I played Nd5 for this line. Nd5, Nxd5 - Rxd5, Bxd5 - f6. At this point it feels like you have a winning position with white. Didn't see the bishop could capture.
I signed up to do one!
Position 1: OK, I didn't see the Bxg7 bit at all, very nice idea. (Taking the rook is still decent, though.) Still picked the correct move with the tactic. ;)
Position 2: Qg4 gang here. I considered f4, but was a bit scared of opening things up like that. Black is attacking white and I was rightfully scared that white's pieces are elsewhere and not doing much on the king side, but I underestimated how quickly f4 brings _everything_ into the game. (I also considered Qe1 followed by f4 to trade queens that way, but decided I preferred Qg4 since it's more immediate. Never saw the Rf3 move, holy shit that's a disaster for white)
Position 3: I went for the "f4 to trap bishop" plan, which seems OK, even if Stockfish slightly prefers Na3. That said, it's very obvious that black can reply with exf4 and trapping the bishop won't really happen, so my real idea was that I'd open up the position and bring in either the bishop or rook... I guess I just prefer a more open position, and f4 _forces_ that to happen, otherwise white does, indeed, trap the bishop.
Hey Nelson, since you group the ratings in the video why don't you make that question multiple choice on the form. Might make it easier for you? Anyway keep up the good work! 😀
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Happy I found Na3 on the last puzzle. The position was so equal it took me a second to find it.
You should take off the evaluation; it makes the quiz easier
I think next time you should expand the range of begginer players till 1200 and intermediate players from 1200 to 1800 to be more accurate
I love this
Why not move the Knight on F5? If Black takes the Bishop on D5 with the Knight, we can take with Queen then look to capture Knight on C3 with our Queen, if possible. Once Black takes with the Queen, we capture on E2 and fork Black's King and Queen. In the end, we're just up material, no? If Black captures the Knight after we move to F5, can'tbwe just attack the kingside?
Really fun series. You could shorten them up by showing less options.
I would like to know how many of the 2600+ rated players would select option 8.
I like how under 1000 elo players finding best moves in equal positions
Well actually… Stockfish 14 at depth 30 thinks Na3 is a bad move in position 3 because you allow h5 by black with dangerous counterplay. That’s why it thinks you should either push a4 to strike first and bust open the queen side or play Ne3 to gain control over the f6 square.
These kind of closed and complicated positions cannot be analyzed with the engine at a low depth. You have to reach at least depth 30 to have a clear idea of what might remotely be the best 2-3
I think Na3 is actually subpar from an human perspective too, because if you give time to black to start an attack on the kingside then he can easily shift some of the pieces over. While white is essentially blocked by is own pawns and has a hard time to move the pieces to defend the attack.
Just a beginner still, but why not g4, checking their rook? White queen covers black queen from taking.
I'm surprised I got the 2nd position right for the right reason and I'm only 800-
Engines don't always consider all moves, so stupid-looking moves like Rf3 were probably pruned at first
Perhaps Stockfish, or any AI, [1] saves and remembers each Chess Variation, [2] computes more levels in the background whenever it Has Nothing to Do [3] Returns Precomputed Results whenever possible.
So when You ask again Later, the AI has Been Working on that Problem in the Meantime, and its Answer might Change.
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I'm from Lebanon, and I'm a fan too
@@moe_1838 really? Nice to find you here 😂 how old are you
f4 only allows EP once. f3 may only allow the capture once. Don't blindly trust the higher rated player.
Guys if you're not getting the videos in this series, ring that bell
maybe an idea u could add as a quiz "type":
"estimate the following position according to stockfish (without checking stockfish of course): a)+1 b)+0,5 c)0.0 d)-0,5 e)-1,0" (as an example)"
By the way, when it asks about our chess rating, should I use my Daily rating, Rapid, Blitz, or what? Because Daily is ~1600, Rapid ~1400, Blitz ~1200, and Bullet ~1000 lol.
Nobody asked for ur ratings
@@ovoj5631 the graph did
@@klingenschmidt9261 if I wanted to see people flex their mediocre ratings I would just watch Levy's streams
I use my rapid rating since for these positions we think for a while
@@ovoj5631 guy is asking a legit question please stfu. Nelson literally asks us for our rating when doing the quiz!
5:37 Isn't there reasoning also provided in the google forms?
You ust mention who's move is it mmyou missed for the 3rd puzzle
Check the spiffing britt to see how to cheat the algorithm
Position 2: I wanted to see evaluation for g4.
g4 is bad, black can just retreat the rook and play like Ne5 or h5 after (there might be something even better for black but this should already make you not wanna play g4)
Can you deep dive to tennison gambit
Why is it when you point it out it's plain as day but when I play it's gray