Take 2: Engine Building Part 13 - Installing, Troubleshoot, & Setting Up a Holley Sniper EFI System

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2018
  • Repost of this video. I had to make some corrections and put more detail into other things to make this video helpful. I added more about finding top dead center for timing the spark on the distributor and about the wiring. The Holley sniper is a good system. Installation is a breeze.
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Komentáře • 166

  • @bryantcurtis2665
    @bryantcurtis2665 Před 3 lety +2

    Can’t get enough of these videos. Thanks for hours and hours on end of great information and entertainment!

  • @ferberb9662
    @ferberb9662 Před 5 lety +3

    The most informative video of the Holley set up not even Holley made a video like this very informative Sr.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks my friend. My goal is to help as much as possible.

  • @michaelpohlman1925
    @michaelpohlman1925 Před 4 lety +1

    Always thoroughly enjoy watching your super informative videos. Thank you.

  • @jamesnixon1537
    @jamesnixon1537 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video, just installed a complete system for 1st time, excellent information, started right up , wow!!

  • @lout3921
    @lout3921 Před 6 lety +1

    This videos of prime example of why I watch your builds. You do a fantastic job giving us all the right information.

  • @RealKeytones
    @RealKeytones Před rokem

    I’ve watched every one of these videos. I already have a bit more knowledge about engines than most people that don’t do it for a living. But I want to learn a lot more. I’ve never built an engine or tore one down. But I hope I’ll get that chance soon!

  • @thedobermangang3503
    @thedobermangang3503 Před 2 lety

    beautiful looking engine my brother

  • @SRZRB
    @SRZRB Před 3 měsíci

    Great tutorial

  • @graff4143
    @graff4143 Před rokem

    Thanks for this.

  • @goldengeologist9834
    @goldengeologist9834 Před 6 lety +10

    Nice to know that you care about your audience!

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 6 lety +5

      I care to be correct, when I'm misleading I have to fix it or nobody learns.

  • @subwoofer8865
    @subwoofer8865 Před 2 lety

    I've been doing a bunch of tuning and never noticed the fwu file business, somehow it just worked. I changed the file, and the system did an update which I'm happy about. Not the information I was actually looking for, but glad I found it.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      It's unfortunate they are not very clear about updates

  • @samperras
    @samperras Před 2 lety

    Thank matey, from Sydney Australia

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Greetings my friend

    • @samperras
      @samperras Před 2 lety

      @@PetesGarage Pete please help, I recently purchased a sniper, I’m try to wire it up to my digital 6Al, I have a 2 wire msd pro billet, and I want to use the timing control module supplied with the kit, I have locked out distributor and have the adjustable rotor button, I’ve watched all the Holley videos and read the instructions supplied with the kit, a lot of conflicting information
      Please help
      Regard

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 2 lety

      email me petesgarageinfo@gmail.com

  • @thedobermangang3503
    @thedobermangang3503 Před 2 lety

    good video my brother .you are truely one of the best mechanics on youtub...you would be a excellent instructor .let me no when your class start i will be there.

  • @CarswithNash
    @CarswithNash Před 6 lety +1

    Good video, very informative & easy to follow.

  • @snake_eyes_garage
    @snake_eyes_garage Před 5 lety +5

    Hopefully Holley has fixed that firmware update issue - great troubleshooting on your part. 👍

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      I hops so too, maybe it was just a mistake at the factory

  • @RebelBubba88
    @RebelBubba88 Před 6 lety +3

    I've always heard EFI systems were tough to set up, I've never done it myself or seen it done, this video confirms how tough it is lol. But, the gains from an EFI system are worth it.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 6 lety +1

      I think this was rare, they usually come ready to go.

    • @turboflush
      @turboflush Před 5 lety +1

      It's not as bad as it used to be. Or if you use a pro system.
      Companies have taken allot of the mathematics out of tunning and made systems more bolt on.

  • @RodeoRanger
    @RodeoRanger Před rokem

    I installed exact same system with the Complete Holley Hyperspark System..could not get it to run right. Finally after 2 months of headaches and nightmares, I happened to look into the secondaries when it was idling way too high when hot. The damn secondaries were slightly stuck open from vacum. I put a little spring on it and "BAM{" the thing runs like a dream. Holley needs to build better quality into these expensive upgrades. After searching youtube , I found hundreds of people with exact same issue. NOTICE : The Clamp On Piece for the Oxygen Sensor is usless unless you have a 2 1/2" Exhaust. I have 3" Exhaust and it didn't fit , it leaked, so I had mine welded in. I would not recommend the Fuel line kit. I went with Returnless Holley Pump and you cannot hear it. One last thing...with dual plenum, I recommend a 1/2" Holley phenolic spacer...To keep the sniper cool.

  • @billyferguson5881
    @billyferguson5881 Před 5 lety +1

    Pete hey I have another question for you I saw you had your oil sending unit by the oil filter? Did you end up keeping it that away or did you install it back up by the distributor? If not what is best to use to cover the hole by the distributor? Also I noticed when you said your distributor your wire hook up was more towards the distributor and then it was like straight on with the bolt on the intake? How did you get it straight inline with the bolt? Thanks Pete!!

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      I kept it there and plugged the hole by the distributor with a 1/8" NPT plug. Which wire?

  • @gametimebullies
    @gametimebullies Před 2 lety

    Can u do a vacuum line hook up for this system which goes to brake booster or pvc valve? Great video though awesome

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 2 lety

      Sure, there are ports on the bottom for vacuum

  • @rororod7513
    @rororod7513 Před 6 lety +2

    goo magnifique vidéo

  • @ParisTheMotorhead
    @ParisTheMotorhead Před 5 lety +1

    Is it possible to use any distributor with the sniper EFI or does a specific one need to be used?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      Yes, any distributor/coil pack will work

  • @petergeorge1544
    @petergeorge1544 Před 2 lety

    Than you for your very helpful video. I am currently having a sniper fitted to 1990 Camaro, replacing a troublesome TPI system. Can the sniper system run the electronic turbo 700 transmission we have, and if so how do we make that work. I would really appreciate your help, here in Australia not to many people are conversant with these cars

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 2 lety

      I don't want to give you the wrong information, but if you contact Holley tech support, they will. They are very good.

  • @georgeadkins2089
    @georgeadkins2089 Před 5 lety +1

    Hey Pete, How much total time did you spend on dyno? I’m finishing 454 build with sniper efi and headed to dyno shop. Do I need half day (4 hours) or full day (8 hours)?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      If they know what they're doing you can get on, tuned, and off in 4 hours

  • @user-nn6nq8kv3y
    @user-nn6nq8kv3y Před 4 lety +2

    Would this efi kit work on a stock intake manifold?
    I’m in California, would the efi kit help my 350 Camaro pass smog?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety +4

      Yes it would. It directly replaces any carb.

  • @Scubasteve22
    @Scubasteve22 Před 5 lety

    Hey pete, does the sniper system require you to set the timing on zero because it takes care of the timing with the system? Cause I noticed you didn't put any advance in the timing, just wondering. Also an FYI. My sons friend put one of these units on his new motor because they don't like tuning a carb. So far they hate it. Dead spots, high idle, timing all over the place. Hope your having better luck.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      It does not control the timing, it's just a throttle body. It is not easy to set up if you're not sure how to resolve issues. It does take some tuning knowledge to get right.

  • @fastjp72
    @fastjp72 Před 5 lety +5

    On a dual plane intake you need to notch the center divider or use a spacer for it to work correctly, Engine Masters did a episode about this problem.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      That may be true for a carburetor engine. I'd have to see what they are trying to prove and how they went about it.

    • @fastjp72
      @fastjp72 Před 5 lety +1

      Does not apply to a carburetor, only TBI EFI. You can also contact Holley and they should tell you the same, just trying to help not criticize.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety +1

      Interesting, I'll have to look into it. Thanks for the comment

    • @EricErnst
      @EricErnst Před 5 lety +1

      @@fastjp72 Holley Tech told me it'll work awesome with a dual plane. First start was last night. It's all engine specific. Sometimes carbs like a spacer to run right. I think it was just an oddball airflow turbulance issue with the cam and intake. I was concerned before ordering mine, but throttle response seems great after the first start last night.

    • @fastjp72
      @fastjp72 Před 5 lety

      @@EricErnst Glad it's working good for you, I believe Holley has rectified the problem now by adding a passage on the underneath of the throttle body to fix the issue they were having on dual plane intakes.

  • @406johnnyboy
    @406johnnyboy Před 6 lety +1

    Nick, I bought the sniper unit to install in a1971 mach1 Mustang with 351 c and C6 trans. It didn’t come with throttle. Brackets for the C6 transmission kick down lever. Called Holley tech, was referred to Lokar for part, Lokar didn’t have the part in stock and didn’t know if they ever would. How can I make this work? Don’t really want to return unit fo lack of a kick down linkage

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 6 lety

      The original one does not fit?

    • @406johnnyboy
      @406johnnyboy Před 6 lety

      The car had an FMX transmission ,I bought a rebuilt C6 , did no come with linkage

  • @FordMustang1969Restomod

    Nice video! Do you think Sniper has good parts/electronics quality? The reason I am asking is because I am dumping my FiTech unit for something else. That thing has lots of issues both mechanical and electronics.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 6 lety

      I think they are very well made. Holley bought Accel which made fantastic EFI equipment.

    • @FordMustang1969Restomod
      @FordMustang1969Restomod Před 6 lety +1

      Pete's Garage Thanks for taking some time for a great answer! 😁

    • @FordMustang1969Restomod
      @FordMustang1969Restomod Před 6 lety

      Pete's Garage Got the Sniper and installed it and it is really great! czcams.com/video/gWSIUy_8TuA/video.html

  • @guyconnell2250
    @guyconnell2250 Před 4 lety +1

    One would hope that Holley would see to it that all necessary files were present on SD card when shipped or on their website. As opposed to having to search forums for a fix.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety

      Maybe they fixed it, I just happened to get one that way

  • @stang1973
    @stang1973 Před 2 lety

    I see you are using an HEI style dizzy with a vacuum advance. My question is does the vacuum canister need to be connected to the sniper?? if so where does it go? Im having trouble getting my timing dialed in and just when i thought i understood it all, i realized the vacuum advance would add vacuum wouldnt it?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 2 lety

      No, connect manifold vacuum to the Sniper. The Sniper does not advance until 2,500 RPM I believe

    • @stang1973
      @stang1973 Před 2 lety

      @@PetesGarage Ok but doesnt mechanical advance kick in first? then vacuum advance? or am i incorrect?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 2 lety

      Yes, if you have an older distributor

  • @fuzzypumper
    @fuzzypumper Před 6 lety

    Hi, is there going to be a Dyno test video on this build?

  • @79series
    @79series Před 4 lety

    Hi , would you have any videos on how noisy the sniper efi external pump is under a vehicle. Is an in tank pump better.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety

      Those pumps are noisy, yes, the in-tank ones are quieter

    • @79series
      @79series Před 2 lety

      @@PetesGarage I ended up installing a retro fit in tank thanks. Just trying to find more videos on hei timing control like the 67 camaro timing.

  • @racer67
    @racer67 Před 5 lety +1

    So many questions but can this efi system run off of the stock fuel pump? I have a 1967 impala and would like to put one of these on the engine and was wondering if it would run off the stock fuel pump or do u need to run an electric fuel pump??

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      This system comes with a fuel pump.

    • @dmoskk
      @dmoskk Před 5 lety +2

      Stock pump is probably not strong enough, the pump it comes with runs 58.5 psi with the internal regulator, the mechanical pump runs somewhere around 10 psi if not less. I cant imagine it running the EFI at all without stalling above idle if it even runs at all.

    • @racer67
      @racer67 Před 5 lety +1

      @@dmoskk Makes sense!

  • @ernestochamorro1
    @ernestochamorro1 Před 4 lety

    How did you like it? Power? smoothness ? idle ? dyno ? vs carb. Thank you

  • @garagehack2060
    @garagehack2060 Před 6 lety +1

    If running dual exhaust. Is it ok that the O2 sensor only reads 1/2 the engine?

    • @AustrianAnarchy
      @AustrianAnarchy Před 6 lety

      I think Holley has inputs for 2 wideband O2 sensors. Was just reading that in some forum. If you have a crossover, iirc, you can run 1 in the middle there. Not sure on max distance from the collectors.

    • @rci-tf2zc
      @rci-tf2zc Před 6 lety

      yes you put o2 sensor in collector as close to header pipes as you can.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 6 lety +3

      It also needs to be far enough away from the header where exhaust gases can get over 1100 degrees F

    • @adriantomlin2902
      @adriantomlin2902 Před 4 lety

      Don't know if this is relevant. My 89 Silverado has true duals with headers with only 1 oxygen sensor. It has the factory throttle body and works fine.

  • @timothyquinn3204
    @timothyquinn3204 Před 3 lety

    So a hei distributor will work with holley efi that yellow wire goes to the coil

  • @tomashton1781
    @tomashton1781 Před 5 lety +1

    Im assuming thats, a constant flow injection system, as opposed to timed port injection, where the injector only squirts fuel just before the intake valve opens , I used to work on the early K system used in Volkswagon rabbits, and you could adapt the system to work with just about any four banger, my question is during overlap the fuel just goes out the over lap cycle, which seems like a waste for fuel economy, but Im thinking constant fuel injection may help power and help cool the manifold, charge, but you still have a problem with fuel separation due to the boundry layer of air in the manifold runners, if I had a choice I would think putting an injector in the manifold runner would work better, but then its runs into more money, your videos are very informative, I like that system you have set up on the 427 with the dual throttle bodies im guessing you can make 650 -700 Hp, geez look at 358 NASCAR engines they make 800 plus but wont idle for a street engine

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      Excellent points Tom, thank you for the comment

    • @cfmechanic
      @cfmechanic Před 5 lety +1

      Speed density system

  • @jiveturkey9993
    @jiveturkey9993 Před 6 lety

    If you shortened any of those wiring harnesses to maybe make them a little cleaner would that mess with the electronics calibrations??

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 Před 6 lety +1

      I doubt it. If anything shortening lines will clean up signals and reduce coupling. I'd do it AFTER I got everything working then walk through the shortening procedure with caution.

    • @rci-tf2zc
      @rci-tf2zc Před 6 lety +1

      no you can buy a tool to remove wires you dont need at the connectors.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 6 lety

      Thanks guys, shortening and cleaning will go up after it's installed

  • @Rick-Williams59
    @Rick-Williams59 Před 5 lety +1

    I wish the one I ordered had been in a box that nice. It was in a Sniper box wrapped in plastic bags.(I ordered it off Ebay from a parts seller, so I'm guessing it was repacked. It is brand new though) The installation was not as easy as Holley said it was, it does not work on a stock quadrajet intake like I was told it would. I had to buy an aluminum intake, the bung clamps were junk, broke while installing. I had to modify the throttle cable mount, I'm waiting on some Earl's 90 degree fittings so I can use my Ram Air breather pan without modifying it. I still have to remount the fuel pump somewhere besides the frame rail because it's noisy as all get out. It works great once I have done all the modifications on the car to make it fit properly. I need to mention that it was installed on a 1970 Pontiac GTO 455 HO. All said and done I like the unit, it's superior over the quadrajet carburetor. I don't want people to think it's bad to install, I just want them to be prepared because it's different to install on different automobiles.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety

      It's certainly not just a bolt on for every engine. Sometimes you have to do many modifications to make it work.

  • @FoScoJo
    @FoScoJo Před 5 lety

    Hey, Pete. Another great series, but.... you skipped installing the spark plugs and valve covers again (and any other steps us newbies do not know about).

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 5 lety +1

      Ok, I'll include that in a future video

  • @RichieCat4223
    @RichieCat4223 Před 3 lety

    13:39 How did you know to select the first file to make the change ? Thanks.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 3 lety

      It was missing a file extension

    • @RichieCat4223
      @RichieCat4223 Před 3 lety

      @@PetesGarage That doesn't tell me anything. Was it missing from the set up wizard ?

  • @northerniltree
    @northerniltree Před rokem

    I was told the "correct" way to do an EFI system (like the Holley Sniper) on my C2 Corvette was to buy an aftermarket fuel tank that will house the fuel pump to keep it cool, like a modern car would have. Do you agree with this advice?

  • @arizonaranger8402
    @arizonaranger8402 Před 5 lety +1

    Adjust your schedule if you ever have to send the unit back to Holley. My money order arrived at Holley on a Wednesday and my unit was shipped back to me the following Tuesday. I'm not complaining in any way shape or form. I'm posting this so people can adjust their schedules. Plus Holley refuses to send me the cable that they said was burned and shorted. A pic of the cable doesn't show me where I routed incorrectly. Don't sell your carburetor. Bring your carburetor with you in the vehicle. Don't leave home without it.

  • @KrukasT4
    @KrukasT4 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you very much for sharing. There is no such thing as Plug and Play !

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety +1

      Almost never

    • @adriantomlin2902
      @adriantomlin2902 Před 4 lety

      Harry!! Agreed!! Don't believe the company videos!! They will lead you astray!!

  • @sorryimajerk735
    @sorryimajerk735 Před 2 lety

    should prolly use high pressure clamps between the pump and the filter

  • @georgemartine2868
    @georgemartine2868 Před 5 lety

    What if you have an older engine? 1979 with mechanical fuel Pump Type

    • @colinhenshaw8946
      @colinhenshaw8946 Před 5 lety

      George martine Holley sells a package with the sniper that also contains an inline fuel pump. You could also install an intank electric fuel pump.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety

      The fuel pump comes with the system

    • @MrRainrunner
      @MrRainrunner Před 2 lety

      @@PetesGarage the "regulator" comes with the system...internally. This product needs a seperate fuel "pump" capable of 60 psi...
      I believe.

  • @rororod7513
    @rororod7513 Před 5 lety

    Bonjour pete, je peut on installer ce système sur un 305 chevy, pour un bateau

  • @adriantomlin2902
    @adriantomlin2902 Před 4 lety

    Don't have a computer Pete. What is an alternative method?!

  • @allenmckinney9533
    @allenmckinney9533 Před 4 lety +1

    I would think for $1200 Holley would have their files together.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety

      So would I, but this was a fairly new product when I bought it

    • @adriantomlin2902
      @adriantomlin2902 Před 4 lety

      That's alot of lettuce!! They should have their crap together!!

  • @allan7934
    @allan7934 Před 6 lety

    Literally just watched the 1st take. And now I feel compelled to watch the 2nd take. Car junkie???

  • @rodcognito002
    @rodcognito002 Před 4 lety

    What do I need to download to my computer to read sd card

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety +1

      That's impossible to answer without sitting at the computer.

    • @rodcognito002
      @rodcognito002 Před 4 lety

      @@PetesGarage Thanks for replying anyway.

  • @kgroombr
    @kgroombr Před 6 lety

    Sounds like Holley's quality control is seriously lacking.

  • @MagnusDominus1
    @MagnusDominus1 Před 5 lety

    350 or 355?

  • @TomKubiniec-Secureit
    @TomKubiniec-Secureit Před 4 lety

    Note: If your sniper does not work... you are on your own. My install -Sniper, hyper-spark system, EFI tank does not work. 68 Vette 427 I have just finished a complete mechanical rebuild and upgrade is dead in the water and I have no course of action other than to un-install all this equipment and send it back.... It's really odd.... I was getting support, they sere struggling to solve the problem and requested the data-log file. Once they received it, they have stopped all communications with me. They no longer return my emails. I was a life long Holley carb user and fan.. Hell I can rebuild a 4160 blindfolded..... But this is really odd. Be careful people... I'm getting screwed...

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety

      I'm sorry that happened Tom, please let us know how it turns out if you can

    • @incrediblysillybutimportan3862
      @incrediblysillybutimportan3862 Před 4 lety +1

      @@PetesGarage Will Do... They have one more shot at this....

    • @incrediblysillybutimportan3862
      @incrediblysillybutimportan3862 Před 4 lety

      @@PetesGarage So I am working with Anthony McKindly in support at Holley. This guy is good and is saving Holley at this Point. Looks like I have a bad unit and Holley will replace it. Note: This morning I spoke with a Holley Tech named "Lou" and he put me on hold to check with a different tech, I was in my office doing other work and left the phone on speaker. 45min went by and I hung up.
      I did not want to blow these guys up as I was not sure it was them or just circumstances.... I can confirm that Dusin Scalf and Louy at Holley are bad news. If he working for me he'd be fired in a minute. Holley has to do a better job. I build a lot cars -Not a pro... just a real enthusiast. This is my last Holley product ever.....

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the follow up Tom, it sucks you had a bad experience

  • @hectorortega9131
    @hectorortega9131 Před 2 lety

    If want Fuel Injection i just drive my OEM Fuel Injection equiped Car or truck.
    But for my weekend Toys?, Thanks, but no thanks, i'll stick to my Carburators..

  • @christopherhaston8847
    @christopherhaston8847 Před 4 lety

    U put ur fuel inlet and outlet rong sides

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety

      It flows through, the sides are vehicle dependent

    • @christopherhaston8847
      @christopherhaston8847 Před 4 lety

      I thought it had to go through one way for the regulator!?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Před 4 lety

      Pressure is regulated on either side, I have regulators downstream on many EFI engines

  • @MagnusDominus1
    @MagnusDominus1 Před 5 lety

    EGR, Engine eating its own excrement.

  • @daviddematos7470
    @daviddematos7470 Před 4 lety

    If my engine have 225hp this sniper is good
    My engine is 5.9 magnum stock i wont To add this sniper tanks