Bushcraft Cookset - Crusader MK2 Review & Test | TA Outdoors
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- This is the cookset that I currently use whilst out doing buschraft. The Crusader MK2 cookset is great value for money. It's lightweight, strong, durable and versatile. I use it with a trangia alcohol spirit burner and it works a treat! It even has a mould that perfectly fits the trangia burner. Below is more information on the cooking system:
Weight: 105grams
Multicam carry pouch comes with:
1 x Hard Anodised cooking cup (1 litre)
1 x Plastic Black Osprey NATO drinking cup (0.5 litre)
1 x Plastic Black Osprey NATO drinking bottle (1 litre)
1 x Hard Anodised Steel base cooking plate with folding rack
The additional items I use with it are:
Crusader Cup holder clip: www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/cr...
Crusader MK2 Aluminium Lid with strainer holes: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Handmade-Me...
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Best review ive seen for a while well done you👍so sensible to test outside,keep it up sir🙂👍
Great review Mike clear and concise at first thought bulky but once it was stripped down I was pleasantly surprised definately worth a thought for the future .. most pots and pans out there aren't big enough to seat a boil in the bag comfortably...
Well worth the effort thank you for sharing.
+John Lindsay Thanks John, I used a boil in the bag today and it fit fine - Mike
Good review. Thank you. Just bought a system....nice to see one working
Fantastic video! I love looking earth, explore and decompress...
A good review of a stove that has had many reviews:) Good tip on cutting down the draught.
Thanks
Sandy
+Wiltshire Man Thank you Sandy
Great review. Many thanks for making it.
Tomorrow I shall try to purchase that lid. Cheers 😎
I like this kit, might be a good replacement for my Swedish mess kit, thanks for the review.
That's a really nice stove. I think the best design I've ever seen.
I use it with wood too, works gret!
just bought my set and like you i have used the meths burner, which also fits in the kit and for me it is a fantastic bit of kit.
i like the way the cooker keeps all of the flames contained so that all the energy goes directly to the bottom of the cup which makes it super efficient
It does all fit together as a kit really well. Still using it and still like it! - Mike
Good review,I've been waiting for someone to do a review using the Trangia burner on this cook set.Absolutely brilliant.
I have exactly the same unit,I love it.
All the best Kim......
+Kim Bullock Thanks Kim
It does work, but it doesn't produce enough heat to boil as fast as it could. The mug sits too close to the burner. The Trangia is also getting very hot due to how close the mug is. This might actually be a benefit in the winter if using ethanol which doesn't work well below 16C.
I've noticed that when I trialed it at home Peter, the flames were licking out of the pot stand and up the side of the pot..
Excellent system and test video.
Great review,some people say that the Crusader cook set wont take a Trangia burner,but you have proved them wrong.I think i will buy one of these cook sets.Thanks again for the review.
Hi Karl, glad you liked the review. I really like the cookset and so far I am still using it - Mike
Great review and I would agree that this is an excellent versatile cook system. You can use small tinder and twigs/pine cones, trangia, firedragon or other gel fuels, nesbitt or hexamine blocks. An all in one solution, even if you don't get the lid. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. I love my MKII system.
Great review. I have the MK1 and i can see all the improvements in the MK2 that we all moan about with the MK1. The trangia does not fit in MK1! The flame rolls around thew sides of the MK1 and wastes heat! The MK1 takes longer to boil!
Hmmm!!! Was looking at the Mk2 in a bush craft shop the other day and I must admit, I was impressed with the size of both units and how light they are. The Mk1 isn't ideal for a day walking/hiking fairly long distances and I'd swapped it for lighter kit (a French army aluminium mug with an aluminium US army pot stand) but this might be a good all round alternative. Thanks for the review!!
Great set ta.
Thank you for a great review 👍🏻
Great review of a decent bit of kit.
+Steves Outdoors NE Thanks Steve
I like your makeshift wind screen. :)
That's precisely why I don't bother packing a wind screen. You can always find something to do a simple job like that. I know a piece of aluminum foil is not heavy, but it's one more piece of kit I don't need to worry about.
+IamNemoN01 Thanks!
Excellent !... Perhaps review some suitable food for it sometime ?
Thanks for this review. Rather than the Trangia meths burner, I use a Trangia gel burner, though an empty airgun pellet tin works just as well. I line it with aluminium foil (changed regularly) to keep it clean. I use "Dragon Fuel" gel, which is available from "Go Outdoors" for about £4 per litre cachet. A litre goes a very long way!
Great review! I've got to find this system in the US that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
What would be the total burn time , when full , of this stove ? Also , what temperatures would this stove be ineffective , i.e. cold ? Thanks
Great video.
Nice kit
Yes great review...thanks
I like that yours is very compact system.
I thend to use trangia 28 a nd kelly kettles.
Also have us type waterbottle and mug made in sweden but no cook stand. Stainless steel not plastic.
Like the puches
Looks good!
Thank you
Hello, I wanted to ask you if you can drink hot drinks or eat hot food in the cup, thanks !!!
Hi, i've got the 2013 osprey, and that burnt plastic smell inside, i've tryed a lot of things... boiling water inside for a minute... toothpaste with luke warm water shaken up and rinsed a few times. lol any ideas? :)
The Swedish military cookset has everything this has and more... including a frying pan built into the lid and an actual lid which this set does not have either as default.... At £60 for this set, your better off buying a refurbished Swedish military cookset which you can buy for half the price :)
Not any more you can't. Prices have gone through the roof...
Does it tho? Swedish military cookset doesn't have a bottle, a drinking cup as well as a pouch.
I've got the swedish Cook set too, It's excellent, uses a bigger burner, the pan / cup can be used as a lid to reduce boil time. It's only down side is its a lot heavier and takes up a lot of pack space. You can store your meths, lighter and wot not in the main body of the set but you have to store your water separately..
Why would a squaddie need a frying pan,totally useless for rationed food,never ever have I or any other soldier started frying food on ex.
looks good but how do you put the flame out if you are on a quick refreshment stop
very very good review!
+Konstantinos Tsagkalidis Thank you
Hello. Great video. I have the original BCB Crusader Cook set in stainless steel and don't carry the plastic cup but instead an additional steel crusader with all fitting together with osprey 58 bottle and cooker unit really well. The addition of a coil of stove rope in the cooker base really increases the burn time of meths and I no longer carry my trangia burner or penny stove. It really is such a versatile and bombproof system. I may get the MK2 cooker unit as it is deeper and could therefore be used to burn wood. I have managed to boil water doing this in the original cooker but it is not ideal as not deep enough but the MK2 looks like it could be done more efficiently. Thank you for sharing. I have subscribed. Happy wandering. Paul :)
I have found the opposite. The Trangia is much more efficient with fuel as the rope just burns the fuel more quickly. However, the rope does boil more quickly as the gap to the bottom of the mug is better than with the Trangia.
Paul Outdoors I do the same with two steel mugs and the burner mod except I used carbon felt and also have a bean tin can bottom cutoff with a 25mm hole to use as a simmer device. It slides over the burner perfectly! Along with 2 diy steel lids and a long titanium spoon all nestles in a dpm BCB pouch it’s probably my favourite cook kit......not the lightest but absolutely bomb proof!
why carry spirits when you can burn wood? 14 mins seems like ages in this vid
can the plastic cup be replaced with a metal one, which fits the bottle.
Cool review, my son uses the mk 1 mug with the mk 2 base, not a exact fit, but still works ,trangia as you do as I find fire dragon (apart from emergency fire lighting), is rubbish, expensive for what it is, even a mk1 crusader mug half full (unless in perfect conditions) takes 2 tabs, alright if you get them free, but crusader is a brilliant system, good health and safe travels, cheers craig
Excellent bottle, very beautiful, good design, and very practical! Maybe you should take some cloth handles with you, so you don't burn yourself when you pick up the pot, and I think it's nice to insert a strainer in the same way to boil fish, potatoes and vegetables. What do you think about it? What I don't know is if the strainer will be left out of the bottle when you built it... Good morning, Mike.
Nice video greetings from Poland :)
you shared many amzn purchase links, but seems forgot the major thing is the 「Bushcraft Cookset - Crusader MK2」 itself, can buy from where?
Is the bottle rated for hot water? Can I melt snow and pour the hot water back into the canteen? I wish they had a stainless steel version of the canteen as well as the cup.
Where can you get it with the pouch? Cheers.
The straps on the pouch are for the web belt as it fits along with ammo pouches and it's not really ment to go on a Bergen as in a battle mode you might need to dump the bergan then you got no water
Well, i fixed it quit for normel molle system. And now is connectable with all my Bags.
is there a titanium cup you can replace the plastic one with, but also fits the bottle. cheers
Love the review but I was always told in the army not to drink the water after you have used it to heat up your boil in a bag meal. They gave us ration heaters in a bag . You put your foil bag in, add a little water and it reacts to a small device in the bag and heats up with no flame. I do love the Crusader 2 kit and will be adding it to my wish list. CHEERS.
Far better off having dehydrated meals, no, so you can just pour water in imo.
@@ryand141 Hi Ryan, the idea of wet mre rations is that when you have no water or fuel or are in a non permissive environment the meals are still palatable. Dehydrated meals are not palatable when eaten dry I know, I've tried😃
Could you post a link for the alloy lid, I have been looking for days cant find the guys who make it.Enjoyed your video.
It was on ebay I just typed in crusader mk2 lid and found it
Good man, I found it problem is the page will not let me select which one I want, lol so sent him a e-mail, see what happens.
thanks a lot man.
Hi there, how long can we go with a full reservoir on those trangia ?
I think it's around 44 mins..
Great review - but this kit is NOT 105g. Just the plastic bottle and cup are 255g combined. Im not sure about the rest of the items, but im guessing that the full kit could perhaps be 1050g. Mine is 350, and includes a 1,5liter Trangia pot, handle, and burner, and a Bushcraft Essentials "Bushbox Ultralight" (70g wood stove that packs flat, and can also be used as a stand for the Trangia burner). The Trangia pot fits almost perfectly in the bottom of the stuffsack for my sleeping bag, so when i then pack my sleeping bag on top of this, the cookset takes almost no room at all. The stuffsack on my Zpacks Duplex tent also fits pretty snugly inside this pot, so which method i use depends on what backpack i use (backpacks with different sizes require different packing methods for getting maximum efficiency) 👍
I bought one of these and its not bad, my only observation is the osprey waterbottle isn't a genuine one its much thinner contstruction and you can flex it with your hands. my genuine osprey bottles from the 1990s will withstand a landrover driving over them. a no nonsense bit of kit with nothing that can fail, that's a win in my book. thanks for the upload, best wishes from mountain bear outdoors.
Yeah, I'm a teen that likes military kit and camping (eventually wanting to join) and when I got a Osprey surplus bottle from the 2000s i was upset it wasnt new, then quickly realised how much better it is than the "New" ones these days.
The amount of holes on the top side could be less I think. That would improve the heat transfer into the cup. If the windshield was higher and enclose the pot more, the heat transfer into the pot would also improve. The pot inside the Swedish army mess tin cooker stands also quite deep inside the windshield. Giving it a very high efficiency.
If you bought it on the web can you share a link please I really would like to purchase one.
+Tons of Fun ! It was from a website called heinnie haynes
Can you burn wood or coals in the burn chamber? Thank you for all your videos and knowledge sharing. God Bless.
+Debbie Holland I haven't personally tried that as I have a Firebox stove which uses wood. I feel that there wouldn't be much room underneath to burn wood on this stove
Debbie Holland you can get a few inches of stove rope.. at hardware store..coil it into the base where you would put the alcohol burner..pour your alcohol over the rope I use about an ounce usually...the rope will not burn..cools quickly..you can leave it in stove or drop into a small baggie when not in use
Debbie Holland ..if you use the rope no need to carry the stove
I've used wood for fuel. It does work but is a bit of a pain due to the lack of space under the mug. I found you can only put very small pieces of fuel in, but it did work so the option is there.
Great vid subd
+Sid Organ Thanks
Where can the whole set be purchased?
Looks like a nice kit but are you sure about it being only 105 grams?
More like 1050grams
Nice system, wanted one since I saw the mk1 advertised years ago. The cost and shipping is what stops me from buying it. Just googled the mk2 this would be the cost if I bought it. (£54 + £39.50 shipping) from 1 company. Been using the 58 cup and bottle with a US army aluminum cup since 1974, (British and Canadian forces) can’t justify the shipping cost 😂
Just got one from the UK via Amazon in Canada. $102 all in delivered to my house. Awesome cookset , I think I like it better than my expensive titanium Kieth canteen set.
I think that BCB have tried to re-invent the wheel and haven't succeeded. The only improvement for me is that the mk2 is lighter. You can use a Trangia burner but it overheats so there is there is no improvement to the stove. The mug has a larger capacity but 750ml is big enough for me, has rivets which protrude on the inside and an awkward ridge in the bottom which is more difficult to clean. All in all the mk1, in my opinion, has not been improved on.
Yeah, I have had this sitting in a cupboard for about 6 years. It's bulky, noisy to carry and pretty over priced too. Considering I can take a folding gas stove and leave no mess, it's a no brainer. The little stove was £22, weighs next to nothing and can fry an egg in 3 minutes. Good luck cooking on that.
I think the push buttons of the pouch should be at bottom side not at top. I am pretty disappointed that the mug doesn’t slight that deep into the stove as expected, there is nearly zero volume reduction when packed.
After 7 minutes, my trangia burners are going crazy within this bcb cooking set. seems to me that they are overheating in some way and start burning the fluid from the inside, instead of burning the gas through the jet holes. you can see this in this video too. Look at the bubbles within the fluid in the middle of the burner..
pew!pew!Lasergun! There was prob to much wind which makes it bun quick you need a good wind screen to keep it burning I used solid fuel instead of a tranga. But the has as burner was one of the best the mug is half ltr NOT A LTR
I get the same the Meths is boiling and Im using more fuel then usual.
Yes. It is called thermal runaway with the heat bouncing off the walls of the burner and over heating the alcohol. This burner is not suitable for Trangia type stoves.
The trick with trangia is you have to wait a couple of mins for it to establish a good burn / bloom , many people put pots on within seconds , thus causing a wild burn , , this still boils water ok , but the mk2 cup is aluminium, hard coated yes , but can start to deteriorate with excessive heat , one final solution , for a more natural burn that works well for many including my self , is fire rope in bottom if burner with meths , , or simply let trangia bloom before placing pot on top , take care guys
@@in0124 Thanks for this advice and I'll try that. TBH ive only used this system a couple of times due to the poor performance of the Trangia burner and Im not impressed using gel either. The Trangia system I have is still the go to system for now
is the mk1 water bottle the same as the mk2 water bottle?
The water bottle is a standard 58 pattern water bottle, so is exactly the same
Where did you buy your kit?
Heinnie haynes website
Did you mean it will DECREASE the boil time?
Great video ! How much did it cost?
+PUNK HIKER www.denbigharmysurplus.co.uk/... I found the kit here for 45 GBP. Plus you can choose between 2 different carry bags. Good shipping rates as well.
Thanks for getting back. I have bought one. Very pleased 😌.
i bought a metal 58 mug which was non stick back in 1986
And do you know if this will fit in a Condor Hydration pouch?
Hi, not sure to be honest as I don't have that
DjFingerSlinger301 no the hydration pouch you just can get the water bladder in
i like it. could use it on the beach at night but the dogs would have it turned over in daytime
+David Harvey I will be trying it out on a beach fishing session that's for sure!
They should of made the cook cup flat bottom like the first one to clean out easier. The one downfall of the second version
Proper comparisons require consistant start temperatures, water volumes and environments....
All wats going on, im stocking up ready.
Interesting
So you think a review should be done like how a person would use it. But you do the boil test with a lid that is not a part of the standard kit?
Use silver foil if you don't have a lid. BCB are too tight to add a lid. Its just common sense to use a lid.
Standard kit comes with a plastic lid. Crusader is designed for cooker which plastic lid will work with, but many people use the mug in the fire directly which is where the metal lid is best. This is a bushcraft channel.
The aluminum cup looks pretty good. Can’t say much nice about plastic
Please tell graham to jet wash his back yard lol!!
methalated spirits is just the liquid variant of hexiamine blocks
Drinking Cup - weight: 110g, capacity: 580ml
Water bottle - weight: 140g, capacity: 1 Litre
Cooking Cup - weight: 190g, capacity: 950ml
Cooker - weight: 180g
Total weight: 620g
Thanks for that. I'm an American and I don't think in grams at all, but I knew 105g sounded ridiculously light (about 4 ounces). According to your numbers, the cup alone is more than that.
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Nice job, one suggestion- maybe clean up the bird poo next time before shooting! ;^)
Adds to the taste 😋😋
Looks like this would be about perfect without the plastic
16 min. boil time seems a little too long, and inefficient. I am surprised that MK II would take that long. BCB original canteen's bottom area is smaller, so I understand it takes longer to boil. Yet I would expect MK II to perform better.
The issue is the distance from the burner to the mug is too small. Ideal is around 1.5 inches. Resting the mug sideways on top of cooker results in much quick times, but is more exposed to wind. Basically, this doesn't work well as is.
+Deador I've picked up the mk 2 cooker and mk 1 stainless steel mug. Trangia works fine as long as you put one of those UL trangia stands on the burner and use that instead of the mk 2 cup supports.
Turn the pouch inside out, and fill with sphagnhsm moss. You have a Millbank bag. Advise from a homeless vet.
Это военный вариант...или комерция??
Chaps??!!
That is not a liter cup or mug. The cup is 500ml. Only the canteen is 1 liiter.
A) There's no way that whole kit is only 105g
B) Does the camo cover get very hot while being used as a windbreak? That could be an issue.
meths in burner are boiling , out of control trangia burner, windscreen will make it even hotter
Yes when I read a comment further up about using the W/S I thought the same that it would increase the heat. I'm guessing that the distance between the burner and botton of the cooking pot is not enough.
UPDATE: another post advised to allow the burner top bloom before putting pans on. I tried that and it works no problem
I HAVE TO MENTION ALL OF THE BIRD SHIT ON THE GROUND THAT HE IS DRAGGING HIS COOK SET IN.
That’s authentic for the U.K.
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No 1. the 58 pattern mug holds more than 1/2 ltr same as the crusader aluminium mug(3 1/4 of a ltr
No 2 . Water bottle is a 58 pattern water bottle in the army we don't say hey were is the ospry mug it's just your mug
No 3 the pouch you think the kit fits in side of was designed for the kit it fits on you webbing belt order most guys squirrel away 2 to 3 extra water bottles as you don't know when you can refill
I used to carry 3 extra on my belt order
I used to get it in the neck from young officers why are you carting that kit about 24 hrs later I still had 2 full bottles he orderd me to let him have one of mine, he didn't get any these sprog officers learn the hard way I needed all mine to cook grub and of course tea every one had water except him he put me on a charge when we got back boss charged him an told me to bog off old story always have plenty of water good vidieo by the way got a way of getting things across keep at it just trying to help FAUGH A BALLAGH
(The 9th and 2nd Royal Irish CGC motto home service battalions)
there are two types of water bottle and mug the one used in this vid is an osprey which is thicker and heavier than the other version, osprey cat number is 973-6904 the other is cat 973-6665 and not an osprey made thinner and lighter and prone to leaking more just so you know
Plastic no thank you
I searched for the British tank.
Nice review but aluminium for me is a no no. I prefer to stay Alzheimers free.
Plastics too with hot liquid are a terrible idea. You do not want that unnatural shit, leaching into you over time. Stainless steel all the way
You can get it also in stainless steel. And the plastik of this osprey setup is stronger than 100°C hot water.
Aluminum lid, plastik cup, PTFE coated cookware ... I think smoking has less risk of cancer than this gear
16 mins for a boil, way to long
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