A Professional's Expert MVM Guide

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
  • After 5 months in development, hopefully it will have been worth the wait.
    Expert MVM is a ton of fun, but a lot of people tend to flail around not knowing what to do until they eventually give up, claiming it's just too hard for them. In reality it's actually really simple and easy, if a bit silly. Hopefully this video can show you how to crush expert between your fingers as easily as the high tours.
    Yes I snatched the opening to the heavy section from LazyPurple. It fits in perfectly with the opening premise of positioning for heavy and doubly serves as a nice reference to one of my favorite creators. I think it's pretty obvious that I took it in good faith and that it's sign of how much I respect him. If he asks me to take the video down for it I will, I can reupload it without that section.
    Twitch: twitch.tv/pride_
    Discord: / discord
    Music/SFX used: pastebin.com/HPaQf9cb
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    - How I feel finally being done with this video.
    This video was a HUGE rollercoaster of waning motivation, busting my ass, learning how to animate and a drive to make something I can be proud(heh) to show other people and say I made. I think I've succeeded.
    This video is really rough around the edges, I'm aware. There are hundreds of things I can think of to improve, but doing so would require basically starting a lot of areas over. For now, this is good enough. My next big project will sand off a lot of the edges, and I hope to keep improving every single project I make. More on that in a future video though.
    There are references to almost all of my favorite youtubers sprinkled throughout this video. See if you can spot all of them!
    00:00 - Intro
    02:51 - Scout
    05:40 - Soldier
    08:40 - Pyro
    10:25 - Demo
    11:22 - Heavy
    13:37 - Engi
    17:35 - Medic
    19:23 - Sniper
    20:47 - Spy
    21:48 - Outro
    22:36 - Afterword
  • Hry

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  • @arbiter771
    @arbiter771 Před 3 lety +5510

    Very decent guide! I think it would've been beneficial to answer some of the stuff about glitched upgrades or stuff like doing more damage to tanks as pyro when aiming at the top.
    Some notable Upgrade "Glitches" and tidbits:
    Heavy's second firing speed doesn't do anything, except on the Tomislav, where the first upgrade instead does nothing. Also, the percentage given is actually wrong. First/second increases it by 14%, the third by 29% and the fourth by 43%. Tomislav is slightly different and maxes at 38%.
    Engineer's Sentries don't benefit from the second or third upgrades of firing speed in a normal server. However if the server's simulation tick timing is slightly off then the first tick will not work, and the second one will be required. Using hitsounds is the best way to judge if the first tick upgrade worked at all, as its usually impossible to tell otherwise. Canteens also work on the Engi's sentry. Crit canteens max your sentry's firing speed (which you can't achieve normally), Uber canteens make your sentry invulnerable. Recall canteens don't do anything. and refill ammo canteens refill your sentry's ammo and rockets. (Having a strange PDA is hell for mvm, just dont have one if you play MVM.)
    Soldier's Rocket Specialist only works on the first tick. The other ticks only slightly increase blast radius on direct hit and projectile speed. Not worth the 200 spent per level.
    Spy's 3rd sapper upgrade does NOT make it affect more robots. It only increases the amount of time robots are sapped for.
    as mentioned before, since Jungle Inferno, Pyro's flamethrower does more damage to the tank when aiming towards the top. With max damage phlog it does about 25ish per tick and 75 with crits. Along with this, the airblast knockback upgrades can be incredibly increased by flicking up or down when you airblast. Greatly altering how and where the airblast sends enemies.
    Unconfirmed but i've heard rumors of sniper's 3rd and 4th charge speed not giving correct amounts of charge speed. Unconfirmed and needs testing.
    Medic's canteen specialist only applies after you buy the upgrade and leave the upgrade menu, and go back into it. Canteen specialist also doesn't work with recall canteens.

    • @Pride_1
      @Pride_1  Před 3 lety +398

      It’s easier to just pin this comment tbh. As I said I would like to at some point make a follow up video covering little optimizations like the ones you mentioned. The video is already like 25 minutes as is, I didn’t want to go overboard with little things in the first big video for fear of
      1) making the video way too long and having me lose interest partway through(which I already almost did) and
      2) making the video too dense with information and not spacing everything out properly enough to keep it engaging.
      As it is, this video should be more than enough to get anyone to a point where they can at least clear expert mvm, and that was the main goal with this first video.
      Thank you for the comment though, I didn’t even know some of the stuff you listed. Of course, I’ll need to double check it myself before putting it in an actual video, but any feedback or tips is much appreciated!

    • @Pride_1
      @Pride_1  Před 3 lety +135

      Yea I have over 200 tours on expert as well and uh, I’m not too sure if I’m proud of how much time I’ve poured into it lmao. At least it was enough to make a high quality video

    • @YttriumtYcLief
      @YttriumtYcLief Před 3 lety +25

      For the record, we've fixed the firing speed issues in Team Comtress and hopefully they'll make their way upstream to the real game. Also Sentry Firing Speed 2 actually *does* improve the firing speed if you *aren't* using the Wrangler, but it does nothing if you are. Third does nothing period.
      The ideal angle for the Flamethrower on the Tank is 75 degrees, but anywhere between 72 and 78 is fine. Above that and some particles no longer hit the tank, below that and they don't do max damage.

    • @arbiter771
      @arbiter771 Před 3 lety +15

      @@YttriumtYcLief Honestly flamethrower angle isn't too important as long as its towards the top of the tank. It works best if you have a hud to track damage. Max damage Phlog should be doing 25 per tick and around 78(?) with crits.
      Also unless it's changed since i remember testing the sentry firing speed a long long time ago and i distinctly remember 2 being really wonky, and most people assumed it was map based when people tested it.
      Also isn't Team Comtress a one woman show? Unless you're mastercoms then i apologize

    • @Crowntes
      @Crowntes Před 3 lety +6

      Oh my god, that’s long..

  • @danielmallory4687
    @danielmallory4687 Před 3 lety +5293

    The sniper bots from mvm are so scary they joined casual mode

  • @spacegodzilla798
    @spacegodzilla798 Před 3 lety +2304

    “You need more damage”
    “Gas passer is too much damage”

    • @7fatrats
      @7fatrats Před 3 lety +544

      Yeah.. i dont get the logic here. I guess people dont want to recognize pyro as being part of "the meta" or something

    • @tonyshum5569
      @tonyshum5569 Před 3 lety +186

      gas passer is indeed TOO MUCH damage, it trivializes the game and ruins the fun of playing, if you want to speedrun manhattan than go ahead, but please we are not here to sit idle and watch.

    • @Gxmb1t
      @Gxmb1t Před 3 lety +464

      @@tonyshum5569 but why wouldn't you want do more damage in the game about damage? The Gaspasser saves your time and spares gives more room for error.

    • @tonyshum5569
      @tonyshum5569 Před 3 lety +81

      @@Gxmb1t gives you so much room for error that you can basically conga and do nothing

    • @tonyshum5569
      @tonyshum5569 Před 3 lety +89

      @@Gxmb1t imagine yourself in something like an mmo, would you still have fun with the mmo if the guy with a very high level killed every enemy for you and you did nothing?

  • @warriorbuilds3145
    @warriorbuilds3145 Před 2 lety +641

    The beggars bazooka actually is the best weapon for soldier in mvm. Because it already has a extremely fast firing speed, it frees up the need for max firing speed, allowing you save roughly 800 credits.

    • @Vizaru
      @Vizaru Před 2 lety +76

      this. beggars only needs 1 rocket specialist plus max reload speed to be viable, though damage and ammo capacity certainly help.

    • @mariustan9275
      @mariustan9275 Před rokem +5

      @@Vizaru Is rocket specialist that necessary? Rockets specialist removes damage falloff and makes robots stunned on direct hit. But the beggars has has an innaccuracy penalty which makes aiming impossible and forces you to stay close so that the innacuracy penalty is negated. This makes it so damage falloff is non-existent, and direct hits are pretty much impossible to land. So is it really that necessary?

    • @Vizaru
      @Vizaru Před rokem +38

      @@mariustan9275 well, beggars with rocket specialist and max reload can permanently stun super scouts, so I'd say it's pretty good. tanks and supers are big targets so beggars inaccuracy is less detrimental. at the end of the day get whatever upgrades you want, it's for fun.

    • @mariustan9275
      @mariustan9275 Před rokem +5

      @@Vizaru Sure, just get reload speed. Then whatever you want.

    • @Thomas_Angelo
      @Thomas_Angelo Před 9 měsíci

      It doesn't have a good reloading speed at the start tho.

  • @Sadihivoch
    @Sadihivoch Před rokem +357

    This is the closest thing to "how it feels to play MVM" that we can get

  • @cake7378
    @cake7378 Před 3 lety +1364

    11:27 we got a lazypurple reference amazing.

    • @theman1657
      @theman1657 Před 3 lety +57

      We got a few

    • @jacquesnouvel6436
      @jacquesnouvel6436 Před 3 lety +44

      And the Engineer section used HeartGold / SoulSilver music, just like Uncle Dane does in his videos

    • @fuze7885
      @fuze7885 Před 3 lety +32

      20:08 lazer pooples voice says just turn around here

    • @araptorwearingahat7735
      @araptorwearingahat7735 Před 3 lety +14

      I can tell lazy purple is a big inspiration for him throughout the video in general.

    • @keithslatteryii6921
      @keithslatteryii6921 Před 3 lety +3

      Lazys da best

  • @yocats9974
    @yocats9974 Před 3 lety +952

    0:27 "Your team loses on wave 1 and when they spawn their first thought is MEeEeEeEeEDIC"
    Whenever my team loses on wave 1, 4 out of 6 people leave without saying a word

    • @sharkking271
      @sharkking271 Před 3 lety +5

      Me too

    • @Yewsarn
      @Yewsarn Před 3 lety +4

      7 people?

    • @yocats9974
      @yocats9974 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Yewsarn I haven't played TF2 in like three years, I don't know how high the limit is

    • @kitkitkatkit
      @kitkitkatkit Před 3 lety +23

      @@yocats9974 There’s a maximum of 6 people in a round of MVM, just so you know.

    • @sweetricecakeman8582
      @sweetricecakeman8582 Před 3 lety +34

      Similar experience in training mode:
      (team loses wave because of five people playing engineer)
      (three out of five people leave after the loss, others leave when someone switches to Pyro.

  • @makkiezps4
    @makkiezps4 Před 2 lety +220

    i like how you took inspiration from how it feels to play heavy at 11:22 to 12:03

  • @thehuggod1682
    @thehuggod1682 Před 2 lety +111

    The most important thing to remember is to have fun. Not ever game has to be 100% serious and sometimes running meme classes or doing sub optimal things work, and that is a big reason why mvm is still super fun

  • @UncleDane
    @UncleDane Před 3 lety +7725

    Great video! It's been years since I've given anything other than Two Cities a go, mainly because I've just gotten used to those maps and I generally play MvM to zone out and shoot stuff. But your video definitely makes it seem like a slightly more demanding experience, but with the same vibe. And I never even considered that it costs less to complete. Entertaining and informative video, and the fact that you learned how to use SFM just to give this video more flair is super respectable. Again, great job... I hope more people eventually see this!

    • @Pride_1
      @Pride_1  Před 3 lety +595

      Thanks! My goal with going so far above what was "necessary" for a video like this was largely to prove to myself that I'm capable of making something people can enjoy. To have someone who inspires me like you say that I did it means more than I can possibly say. Thanks, I hope I can impress even more with the next one!
      Nice work on your recent videos by the way, especially the panic attack one. There's some stuff in there I'm not even sure how you did, and the graphics were super clean.

    • @YttriumtYcLief
      @YttriumtYcLief Před 3 lety +17

      Yo Dane, come play with us!

    • @charalore5764
      @charalore5764 Před 3 lety +17

      its ankie dan

    • @SergeantG18C
      @SergeantG18C Před 3 lety +3

      It's you it's really you

    • @soarinskies1105
      @soarinskies1105 Před 3 lety +14

      *GOD HAS JOINED THE SERVER*

  • @gungisgrand225
    @gungisgrand225 Před 2 lety +2841

    Damn, Gas Passer never gets a break
    It's so bad in normal play that everyone hates it but it's so unbelievably GOOD in MvM that everyone STILL hates it

    • @e3en7444
      @e3en7444 Před 2 lety +156

      Yeah the explode on ignited is soo good

    • @Loner098
      @Loner098 Před 2 lety +81

      Speedrunners also use it, of course.

    • @protogenhorde8515
      @protogenhorde8515 Před 2 lety +12

      Yes

    • @mafyboy0420
      @mafyboy0420 Před 2 lety +87

      How to win wave 666 in 15-30 mins pending on sever.

    • @Loner098
      @Loner098 Před 2 lety +51

      @@mafyboy0420 Some speedrunners *could* try running the Gas Passer. But I don't think use it that often.

  • @sethgamman
    @sethgamman Před rokem +397

    Upgrades
    Scout 3:02
    Soldier (kind of) 7:13
    Pyro 9:53
    Demoman 10:50
    Heavy 13:00
    Engineer 14:24
    Medic 19:11
    Sniper 20:19
    Spy 21:20

  • @skittybug1558
    @skittybug1558 Před rokem +52

    Something that keeps me coming back to this video is the phenomenal music choice. This is especially noticeable in the Engineer section, where all the songs are from Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver - Dane's choice of music (which is another great layer to the homage). But it's not just that.
    Sonic music for Scout, American™music for Soldier, Spoopy for Pyro, Russian for Heavy...
    It really shows how much you care about and appreciate music choice, and coming back from the fact that you took inspiration from EmpLemon; I can absolutely see the influence.

  • @nopejustnope3900
    @nopejustnope3900 Před 3 lety +744

    I had the luck to play my first expert mvm tour with this guy, and he is a saint. I fucked up left and right and this man was super patient.

  • @Mr-Moron
    @Mr-Moron Před 3 lety +775

    “You won’t get kicked for low tour”
    Tacobot: *Reeeeing in the distance

    • @seanrobinson-old-4463
      @seanrobinson-old-4463 Před 3 lety +131

      I literally got kicked for using a teleported which a sniper was standing in the way of. I was then put on a banlist, and was unable to complete my tour for two days. For using a teleporter.
      Edit: just remembered about this again, and want to reellaborate how mad I am
      Edit 2: remembered it again, like holy fuck don’t you have a friendly to kill on Hightower or something

    • @Pocket_Crab
      @Pocket_Crab Před 3 lety +74

      @@seanrobinson-old-4463 don’t feel bad. I was a scout that got all the money, milked every giant, and killed snipers when they spawned. And I got kicked last wave cause I wasn’t on their friend list. There is no point in even trying to show decency to them cause they will never show you it.

    • @Hoparistic
      @Hoparistic Před 3 lety +18

      tacobot made me rage so hard I sold my entire backpack. The upside is as I was able to cash out before they closed down marketplace TF

    • @bigman5306
      @bigman5306 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Hoparistic who is tacobot?

    • @invictus5609
      @invictus5609 Před 3 lety +48

      @@bigman5306 tacobot is A group Of MVM griefer that bullies player for doing something wrong but is right.

  • @toadstuulguy4326
    @toadstuulguy4326 Před 2 lety +71

    10:15 can we all just take a moment to appreciate that Demo rag doll?

  • @nathan_thorn6906
    @nathan_thorn6906 Před 2 lety +47

    The soldier costs can be alleviated slightly thanks to the beggars, since that thing has the 70% faster firing speed with most of the downtime going to loading rockets, so maxing just reload speed actually gives a faster fire rate than stick with max fire rate and reload speed. That saves you 800 credits that can go right into the damage upgrades, which brings him about on par with the costs for scout and heavy

  • @BlakesPOV
    @BlakesPOV Před 3 lety +1203

    I like how the Obama Administration is trying to fix the teleporter.

  • @zachlap3020
    @zachlap3020 Před 3 lety +592

    Can we all agree that the real way to play scout is the equip the fish and beat robots to death

    • @Pride_1
      @Pride_1  Před 3 lety +152

      you're right, that should have been the whole scout section

    • @megaagentj2248
      @megaagentj2248 Před 3 lety +23

      @@Pride_1 put it in the alternate playstyles and Make sure to highlight how good it is

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 Před 3 lety +49

      Fun fact : 4 scout with max attack speed on the bat shred through tank
      Is it practical ? No
      Is it stupidly fun ? Yes

    • @user-dw2fj8bb8l
      @user-dw2fj8bb8l Před 3 lety +8

      @@vivelespatat2670 Fun fact: 4 skneepers with cleaners carabine and bushwakaklakakoo can decimate tanks.

    • @angrybirdsfan9826
      @angrybirdsfan9826 Před 3 lety +2

      *fibsh*

  • @blackyoda2278
    @blackyoda2278 Před rokem +16

    I’d take a gas passer pyro over a high tour demo or sniper any day. Those are the players that actually trivialize the game and make it feel boring.

  • @aetu35
    @aetu35 Před 2 lety +51

    You are partially wrong with spy.
    If you are a giant killer, armour Penetration and Movement Speed should be maxxed first. Combining them allows you to circle strafe and get backstabs far more efficiently. Armour penetration is far more efficient than swing speed as just one point of it will double your backstab damage and maxxing it will quintuple your backstab damage. Movement speed will allow you to make tighter turns faster and strafe around the giants in order to reach their back and get stabbing again. Afterwards, you should get swing speed and resists along with HoK and/or health regen (since giant killer spies won't be killing regular robots much, healing will be helped out better than you think with health regen). Afterwards, you decide what. Jump height can be useful, recall canteens can get you out of a jam or allow you to kill that one giant scout who slipped by, uber canteens can increase your survivability, revolver upgrades could help out with tanks if your team sucks ass. Just get what you feel will be useful and try to have fun trickstabbing those giants.
    Money spy will also benefit from health regen, perhaps at an even higher level since you wont be stabbing giants who are probably coated in mad milk as much. Resistances will be your friend and thus should be upgraded as soon as your speed is acceptable. You should still get armour penetration before swing speed as stabbing giants will simply net you more damage even if it feels like you are doing less. Jump height is more important here as dodging as much as possible while collecting money is paramount, and the extra mobility can get you to places with dropped money far easier. If you enjoy playing scout but want to try something different, you can try this. (But seriously just try upgrading your gun instead of resistances and unnecessary milk recharge its so much better and you actually help the team)

  • @blu_laza
    @blu_laza Před 3 lety +353

    18:59 "Or the medic could just use a shield"
    He says as the medic goes into the stratosphere and the heavy becomes soup

  • @robthesaboteur
    @robthesaboteur Před 3 lety +597

    This is the FIRST time ive ever heard why people genuinely disliked gas passer without calling me a loser and putting my name on tacobot.

    • @Pride_1
      @Pride_1  Před 3 lety +295

      It's ok, I'm on the tacobot kicklist too. I decided to not kick someone and instead taught them how to play and we won after the tacobot guy left. That's enough to put someone on the kicklist to these people

    • @logie3020
      @logie3020 Před 3 lety +87

      it's almost like you can have a conversation about why u hate it rather just saying nothing and kicking the player and calling them ape after. it's pretty funny I found out about taco bots joined one and used the gas pass.
      game was pretty toxic ngl would not recommend

    • @robthesaboteur
      @robthesaboteur Před 3 lety +90

      @@Pride_1 Yeah. It’s astounding how seriously people can take a hoard mode for TF2 and how bent out of shape people can get rather than just taking a few seconds to explain. Great guide.

    • @cottoneyejoe8285
      @cottoneyejoe8285 Před 3 lety +16

      @@Pride_1 Wait tacobot is back? I thought they took it down!

    • @Haispawner
      @Haispawner Před 3 lety +7

      @@cottoneyejoe8285 No it isn't they're just talking about it.

  • @Real_RUBB3R
    @Real_RUBB3R Před 2 lety +68

    4:08, playing Scout myself for a bit in MvM (I'm usually a Heavy kind of guy), typically the only reason I ever miss money is because one of my teammates killed a bot god knows where and decided NOT to pick up the money, or I ended up dying because either a sentry buster exploded by me because I thought the Engie had it handled, or I get targeted by a million crit heavies.

  • @KirbY-su9yn
    @KirbY-su9yn Před 11 měsíci +20

    I think it would be helpful to be clarified that the Sandman is really good, there is a 500 credit upgrade that makes the Ball, AND the bat itself to cause minicrits, letting you stay safe, and slow super scouts to the speed of a heavy. Although, those 500 credits are rather expensive early game, this is still a wonderful alternatinve to the Fan O War.

  • @occamsbeatinstick.3076
    @occamsbeatinstick.3076 Před 3 lety +328

    Wow, this is a switch, conventional wisdom was "Spy and Sniper are useless, no medic means the team is screwed" so this video did a lot to show some more practical knowledge.

    • @JCBro-yg8vd
      @JCBro-yg8vd Před 3 lety +42

      Shows how the meta has evolved as players have learned the ins and outs of waves.

    • @Technotoadnotafrog
      @Technotoadnotafrog Před 3 lety +23

      "Spy and Sniper are useless, no medic means the team is screwed" is how a normal player-versus-player match works, but MvM is very different from PvP

    • @moonmelons
      @moonmelons Před 3 lety +7

      @@JCBro-yg8vd This video is still behind the meta as well. Scout's suggested upgrades here are... pretty bad and his best primaries aren't even touched on at all.

    • @Cat-ki3hy
      @Cat-ki3hy Před 3 lety +2

      @@moonmelons his best primaries being idk but if I had to assume it would be the soda popper or force a nature

    • @moonmelons
      @moonmelons Před 3 lety +1

      @@Cat-ki3hy Soda Popper with Shortstop being an option in waves where you have a lot of credits.
      These are scouts best damage options with Soda Popper being better most of the time, but Shortstop being better when fully upgraded. Like Wave 7 of Hamlet Hostility with Shortstop + Crit O Cola is scouts best option and he competes with phlog pyro at melting the tanks.

  • @megamegamanz
    @megamegamanz Před 3 lety +1615

    Fun fact: using sydney sleeper in mvm is actually decent since it automatically apllies slow.

    • @TheMrSeagull
      @TheMrSeagull Před 3 lety +152

      It also can cause explosive headshots, despite what some people say.

    • @Mik-kv8xx
      @Mik-kv8xx Před 3 lety +26

      Its decent but fan of war makes it unnecessary.

    • @insertnamehere1555
      @insertnamehere1555 Před 3 lety +24

      Fun fact: when I played mvm for the first time I played sniper and used the sidney sleeper.

    • @thelastmlg2699
      @thelastmlg2699 Před 3 lety +1

      Do you need any upgrades for that? And does it apply to explosive headshot

    • @megamegamanz
      @megamegamanz Před 3 lety +59

      @@thelastmlg2699 For the sleeper there’s no upgrade for slow, it is auto applied, you can do explosive headshots, which doesn’t do a lot of damage, but it does spread the piss.

  • @akihikosakurai4013
    @akihikosakurai4013 Před rokem +10

    I used to be a heavy main in mvm but then I got an Aussie scattergun and have been maining scout ever since. At first it was just to flex the scattergun but I came to realize that scout is really fun and it comes with the unintended effect of making my aim better

  • @robloxplayer0003
    @robloxplayer0003 Před rokem +23

    I always wondered why the other pieces of the meta are looked at positively, but pyro with gas is seen as absolutely horrendous.

    • @icyan393
      @icyan393 Před 4 měsíci +1

      for a lot of people it's seen as requiring 0 skill for such a high damage output, that a lot of people view GP pyro as just brainless throwing, running in, and dying

    • @25439
      @25439 Před 3 měsíci

      @@icyan393but that Is beneficial? Sorry is the point of the game to lose or win?

    • @icyan393
      @icyan393 Před 3 měsíci

      @Bobrowanhowes yeah i dont.. really get it either. its just how a lot of players see it. i guess a lot of players care about the process too as well as whether they lose or win the wave ?

    • @25439
      @25439 Před 3 měsíci

      @@icyan393 that’s dumb, but that’s tr2 players,

    • @DespOIcito
      @DespOIcito Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@25439 the main reason people dont like it is because it rewards bad gamesense and no skill by giving high damage, making that player think they're doing well even if they aren't. other overpowered options like crit sticky traps and explosive headshots require skill and reward you for being good at the game. the lack of skill can cause issues if they're making basic noob mistakes (e.g. spamming airblast, popping uber medics if they miss the throw/gas on cooldown, dying all the time, buying bad upgrades, not tankbusting/focusing unimportant bots with gas) and it gets even worse if the team needs the pyro to switch to a different class and their bad gamesense makes the wave hell to deal with. some people view it as a crutch for inexperienced players and would rather a competent sniper/demo be on the team instead.
      to be clear i dont care if people use it, but thats the main reason i see for why people dont like it. it also just takes the fun out for a lot of people as its much easier to just throw gas at the bots infront of you and w+m1 than to memorise the waves and know where the important bots will be/aim and land your headshots

  • @johnf.kennedy2935
    @johnf.kennedy2935 Před 3 lety +493

    A sniper: hits 1 shot
    The other 8 snipers on 2fort: 1:56

  • @racerm007
    @racerm007 Před 2 lety +250

    Me: *misses a single dollar as scout*
    The rest of my team: *GIVE ME HIS TOES*

  • @GimX3
    @GimX3 Před 2 lety +115

    6:13 *meanwhile on wave 666*
    Ive basically always seen soldier having more damage done than basically all the other classes, even heavys and snipers sometimes

    • @packageolies510
      @packageolies510 Před 2 lety +29

      Money

    • @45.chuminh81
      @45.chuminh81 Před rokem +37

      As the guy above me said, money. Wave 666 give you a ton of money at the start.

    • @GimX3
      @GimX3 Před rokem +8

      @@45.chuminh81 yea i was stupid back then, that waves obv an exception.

    • @lordrj4203
      @lordrj4203 Před rokem +3

      Yeah I usually play him or Pyro
      With beggar's and buff banner
      He is nigh invincible
      I have a video that I put up recently , you guys can check it out
      and give me some tips to improve

    • @scottjefferson4048
      @scottjefferson4048 Před rokem +1

      Cause as he said on the video. With the cash, soldier can ourbest them, and 666 has it from the start

  • @tobiasjoemamawillygamble868

    This video is a bloody lifesaver. Ive been stuck on how to get better in mvm for so long, thank you :)

  • @garytee8945
    @garytee8945 Před 3 lety +400

    "don't treat this video as a bible or force people to play it your way"
    You know there will be people who do

    • @Pride_1
      @Pride_1  Před 3 lety +104

      and you can tell them they're wrong to do that because I put that part in

    • @JadedJaden
      @JadedJaden Před 3 lety +63

      Tacobot: That sign won't stop me, because I can't read!

    • @KarnBlueEarring
      @KarnBlueEarring Před 3 lety +26

      My guide: Don't be a fucking elitist and let people have fun.

    • @lerogal3663
      @lerogal3663 Před 3 lety +5

      @@KarnBlueEarring preach

    • @28qwestnmrk
      @28qwestnmrk Před 3 lety

      YEET YEEET YEET YEET YEET

  • @skullylad
    @skullylad Před 3 lety +891

    Gas Passer in normal TF2: So bad it's annoying
    Gas Passer in MvM: So op it's annoying

  • @fluffiefoxboi
    @fluffiefoxboi Před 2 lety +1

    I loved this, first video I've ever seen of yours and I can't wait for more!

  • @St0nek
    @St0nek Před rokem

    I thought about going into MvM and this video is very helpful, also the editing/sfm bits is impeccable, gj

  • @redxo4ever482
    @redxo4ever482 Před 3 lety +384

    Dude, these videos are like, HELLA TOP NOTCH! Keep it up, man!

  • @grizzlyberry
    @grizzlyberry Před 3 lety +231

    Great vid! Def making me want to give Gear Grinder a go. I've never loved Manhattan or Rottenburg, but didn't realize you could get australiums from other missions.

    • @ALPHAMARIOX
      @ALPHAMARIOX Před 3 lety +12

      Indeed, you can get australiums from every other tour except Oil Spill. You can even get some in Steel Trap, but the queue times are the worst, compared to all the other tours, where I spent a lot of time playing Boot Camp or watching CZcams videos when I was duo-queuing. Thankfully, the queue times in Mecha Engine or Gear Grinder aren't as bad.

    • @shybandit521
      @shybandit521 Před 3 lety

      The maps are meh but I have fun and I personally don't like bot killers as much as I like snagging them tasty killstreak kits and bot bits

  • @psyche_1297
    @psyche_1297 Před rokem +8

    Great guide! Really inspired me to buy my three tickets and go play expert mode again. Only to get three servers with low tours who insisted on the two cities meta, I was the highest tour with only 8. I just ended up buying another ticket and playing two cities. Honestly it is a really good video and guide and eventually I completed another tour, I just need a few of my competent friends in the lobby. I do really love expert mode but it is so frustrating to play when many servers can’t get past wave one.

  • @Golden0718
    @Golden0718 Před rokem +4

    Honestly this helped me prepare for doing my first expert mode run through. I main heavy for MVM so this helped me figure out upgrades as I had memorized some positions with the lower difficulties. I cleared my first expert mission without a single failed wave. So thanks for the help!

  • @driphearts8035
    @driphearts8035 Před 3 lety +967

    So the actual way to play Pyro in the Australium Farming game mode is to not make him use his most powerful unlock for the game mode?
    Seems like a TF2 thing to me lol

    • @Pocket_Crab
      @Pocket_Crab Před 2 lety +104

      If you are a pyro main and have not learned to ignore everybody else by now then welcome to learning to have fun with pyro. 1. There are two types of people in TF2. People who know how pyro works and knows out of every class, pyro is the most situationally flexible. The second type is people that will always lean towards meta and at times use it as a crutch. There is nothing wrong with people basing their play style on something that is proven to work, but like the guy in the video shows at 12:32 it can get boring fast. The number one thing you should always have after wave one is one or two Uber canteens at all times. Just like heavy you have to get in the boys face. It only takes a few extra bots to kill you and leave your team down a player.

    • @overlord-6644
      @overlord-6644 Před 2 lety +203

      Taco bot: we want to grind tours fast, play the meta or we kick you
      Me: ok so I go gas pyro since it is very strong and we will win quickly and easily
      Taco bot: wait no…

    • @overlord-6644
      @overlord-6644 Před 2 lety +91

      @@Pocket_Crab as a pyro main with 1400 ish hours on the class, it just gets worse when people realize you know what you’re doing, they will constantly bring up excuses and reasons pyro should do or shouldn’t do blank. I have heard all of it a million times, as if that would change my play-style just because some people can’t handle dying to a pyro. Your advice on ignoring people is 100% valid, but I’m an asshole so I find purposely enraging people very entertaining.

    • @inbeing3464
      @inbeing3464 Před 2 lety +63

      Tbh i dont understand why people dont like gas passers. Its not like the amount of damage dealt would increase the chances of getting better loot or anything. Instead, the other teammates would benefit from it as it would help destroy the scouts and heavies faster.

    • @demenetori7976
      @demenetori7976 Před 2 lety +21

      @@inbeing3464 Because, shockingly, people play MvM for fun too, and it's not fun to just sit idle by as the pyro solo's the missions

  • @badzombies2003
    @badzombies2003 Před 3 lety +441

    Some toxic players kicked me from a two cities mission on my first tour for playing beggars soldier. Jokes on them though, as I got an Australium on my 2nd tour.

    • @raisinx
      @raisinx Před 3 lety +10

      Nice

    • @Yunooki
      @Yunooki Před 2 lety +7

      Very cool

    • @eclecticspaghetti
      @eclecticspaghetti Před 2 lety +39

      Beggar’s isn’t even bad in MvM, like what lol

    • @bernardonegri5416
      @bernardonegri5416 Před 2 lety +63

      @@eclecticspaghetti "Isn't even bad" is an underestatement, it is the best rocket launcher in MvM and shreds through tanks and giants.

    • @boid9761
      @boid9761 Před 2 lety +23

      @@bernardonegri5416 Maxed out Beggar's is a god. But if you want consistency, the Air Strike is a good supplement

  • @odysseysfortune537
    @odysseysfortune537 Před 2 lety +2

    This video is so rewatchable. I could watch it over and over and still get something out of it.

  • @benmunn7481
    @benmunn7481 Před 2 lety +1

    This is an amazing guide and still stays true to this day, amazing commentary and great humour.

    • @alexszulczynski5546
      @alexszulczynski5546 Před rokem

      I thint that Natasha is undereted In mvm cuz with one rage upgrade u can push back ginats

  • @hamham405
    @hamham405 Před 3 lety +109

    When he said "three heavies" i was instantly sold

  • @Sebasmorti
    @Sebasmorti Před 2 lety +1

    thanks to this guide i completed my first advanced mvm tour (had never played an advance tour before) with the highest damage as heavy, so yeah, thanks a lot dude!

  • @aneishinobinomono
    @aneishinobinomono Před 2 lety +18

    i miss when the medics crossbow acted as an instant delete against giants. it would fire all your shots at once and usually crit twice

  • @trentthegoat3793
    @trentthegoat3793 Před 3 lety +278

    "I won't kick anybody for using it (gas passer)" - 9:41
    *TacoBot: RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE*

    • @ninjaassassin27
      @ninjaassassin27 Před 2 lety +7

      It's not just tacobot, it's the majority of the mvm community.

    • @cryotic7626
      @cryotic7626 Před 2 lety +13

      I don't mind the gas passer, but rather the pyro in question. If he survives and can recharge it quickly then we're good. But if he dies over and over again or if he doesnt't have his gas at the right moment... we've got a problem.

    • @ninjaassassin27
      @ninjaassassin27 Před 2 lety +2

      @@cryotic7626 gas doesn't even reliably kill uber medics. It only deals 150 damage and medics overheal each other. Pyro is a waste of a class slot.

    • @ShallowTeal
      @ShallowTeal Před 2 lety +5

      @@cryotic7626 I usually run passer pyro because I find pyro enjoyable and the passer helps with so many situations, I rarely die since I get the right upgrades and know when to back off. Don't usually catch any flak from teamates that insist the passer is Satan incarnate.

    • @bernardonegri5416
      @bernardonegri5416 Před 2 lety +14

      @@ninjaassassin27 It deals 350 damage, and medics don't overheal each other.

  • @bryrib2368
    @bryrib2368 Před 3 lety +134

    This is a really solid video, reminds me of lazypurple’s “how it feels” series in terms of comedy, quality, and helpful info

    • @BritOfADrag
      @BritOfADrag Před 2 lety +5

      Two of the bits are literally copied from Lazy Purple so you're not wrong in thinking that

    • @MRMOON-jk1cs
      @MRMOON-jk1cs Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@BritOfADrag You sound like you're saying Pride_ wanted it to seem like it was his ideas

  • @carsonferg
    @carsonferg Před rokem +2

    2 years later and this video is still the best MVM video. Good work Pride_

  • @kenziloo9176
    @kenziloo9176 Před měsícem

    i found this video funny and informative. the effort for jokes was nice too. i appreciated the visuals on engie placements and the suggestions for upgrades. thanks 👍

  • @Nyonthecat
    @Nyonthecat Před 3 lety +612

    Love the Sonic Adventure soundtrack on the background, thank you!

  • @joaopedroferreirarodrigues4062

    Tries expert MVM Mannworks.
    Sees soldiers on the first wave.
    Cries.

    • @bernardonegri5416
      @bernardonegri5416 Před 2 lety +2

      Soldiers on first wave on that mission can be useful if they upgrade properly

    • @boid9761
      @boid9761 Před 2 lety +6

      Soldiers in Mannworks is very situational, but is doable

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 Před 2 lety

      @@boid9761
      (4 soldiers are using Rocket Jumpers, and the 5th guy is a GibusVision Sniper named xXx_Lorem.Ipsum_KillerGod_xXx)

  • @verychristianboi3584
    @verychristianboi3584 Před 2 lety

    Havent seen this much effort go into a tf2 video in a very long while this gave me the tinglies thank you for making this

  • @gwhizWHO
    @gwhizWHO Před 2 lety

    Dude your work is awesome! holy moly im impressed and gonna try MvM

  • @Chord_
    @Chord_ Před 3 lety +47

    What's this? A video that explains advanced mechanics in non-base TF2?!?! Absurd!
    But really though, you did a great job with this video. I've not really played upper tier missions too much, but just simply seeing someone explain MVM (be it upper or lower tier missions) is such a refreshing change of pace. Honestly wish that more TF2ubers gave MVM the time of day that you did here. And the actual composition of the video is ace as well. Like you said there are still a couple rough edges, but all-in-all, this is a heck of an introduction, and the 5 months you put into it were well worth it. Wishing you the best with any future videos!

  • @hanro50
    @hanro50 Před 3 lety +123

    "You know what this team could use?"
    "5 more snipers"

  • @ashy3604
    @ashy3604 Před rokem

    This video taught me ALOT about mvm that i didnt even consider before. I assumed high ground was the best position for heavy as its where hes safest, but its also where he gets the least done. I also didnt know about soldier lacking earlygame and sniper being one of the best damage classes. Good video.

  • @gloweyegaming7887
    @gloweyegaming7887 Před 10 měsíci +7

    9:16 what I have found with Pyro, is that you need to get 2 ticks of the jump height upgrade. This one upgrade allows you to just dodge everything for 200 credits.

  • @moothy14
    @moothy14 Před 3 lety +210

    Timestamps: Upgrade page for each class
    Scout: 3:02
    Soldier: 7:13
    Pyro: 9:55
    Demoman: 10:49
    Heavy: 13:00
    Engineer: 14:23
    Medic: 19:05
    Sniper: 20:16
    Giant Killer Spy: 21:24
    Money Spy: 21:39

  • @hmmm2359
    @hmmm2359 Před 3 lety +141

    That feeling when he doesn’t talk about the best demo loadout:
    Quickiebomb Launcher
    Booties
    Ulapool Caber

    • @mizuenayuri
      @mizuenayuri Před 3 lety +5

      Ah yes the Quickiebomb Launcher

    • @eh2587
      @eh2587 Před 3 lety +39

      Actually the best MvM demo lodout is
      B.A.S.E jumper
      Stickyjumper
      Ullapool caber

    • @hmmm2359
      @hmmm2359 Před 3 lety +3

      @@eh2587 ah yes

    • @verticaldorito
      @verticaldorito Před 3 lety +9

      @@eh2587 that load out is actually super fun on casual. Just pray there isn't a mini sentry somewhere.

    • @percher4824
      @percher4824 Před 3 lety

      yeah, you can't equip booties without shield, get fucked i guess

  • @snoopist5817
    @snoopist5817 Před 2 lety

    A really good Edutainment video for MvM. I've haven't genuinely laughed out loud on a video in a while

  • @Knorg
    @Knorg Před rokem

    I've never tried Expert but my favourite MvM class is Heavy so I feel like I maybe oughta give it a shot after seeing this! Cool video and funny stuff too.

  • @Erikk_is_Tired
    @Erikk_is_Tired Před 3 lety +114

    I've already watched this video more times than I can remember. This is really well done like Lazy Purple's work while also including a reference to him in the video. Goes to show how well done sfm animations can be.

  • @semibreve
    @semibreve Před 2 lety +140

    Honestly, its insane that a game almost 15 years old has such complexity and skill requirements in multiplayer modes. Its so rare to see anything like this today.

  • @scurgle
    @scurgle Před rokem

    The cutscenes killed me. Thanks for the tips!! I got the itch to play again after MANY years. This was helpful :)!

  • @crosstails2038
    @crosstails2038 Před 2 lety

    I loved this guide it was entertaining and easy to follow.

  • @wmperkele
    @wmperkele Před 3 lety +84

    Man i remember when first MvM came out its funny how different it is from how your video describes it now, it was soldiers everywhere and any sniper picker got kicked

    • @brettausten1259
      @brettausten1259 Před 3 lety +10

      People still threaten to kick me on steel trap when i pick sniper. A good top damage shuts them up, though.

  • @Casual_PKBeats
    @Casual_PKBeats Před 3 lety +843

    This video was honestly incredible, I definitely wasn't expecting something of this caliber when clicking on this. Love learning more MvM stuff too.
    I do have a few things I wanna ask, in regards to gas passer, though. I mostly play Two Cities myself. Whenever I see the unfounded disdain for the gas passer, I had always just found it to be completely illogical. Disliking a tool that makes completing the objective easier? Absurd!
    But I can sort of get your reasoning that you mentioned in the video, the idea of it kind of negating the need for half the team.
    My question comes in a few forms.
    First, I'm curious about why the idea of "skill" matters, as you mentioned when clarifying the difference between Sniper and Pyro. I feel like the amount of skill one has to put shouldn't really matter when everyone is working together to the same goal. Especially if it makes it easier for newer players to hop in and still be useful.
    Second, what truly are the differences between gas passer and Sniper, in terms of the fun for everyone else? Perhaps there are just some key differences between Two Cities and Gear Grinder that answer this for me, but as it stands I feel like Pyro is more of just a Sniper replacement, rather than a TEAM replacement. He doesn't constantly have gas passer available, and it's honestly not that useful for giants. Seems like it's just good for killing medics and crowd control, like Sniper is, at about the same pace, if not slower at times, even.
    Finally, I feel like your experiences, and thus disdains for the gas passer branch from abuse for extremely new players, based on your description of the Pyro player being dead for 90% of the round. Do you think this is a gas passer issue that can't be avoided, or do you think the gas passer can function at a more tame level if used by a more competent player who mostly uses it against medics and occasionally crowd control, and focuses more on just normal flamethrower damage, clutch airblasts, other silly Pyro things. I know it'd be more optimal to pick other classes to do those things, but we're always talking about the suboptimal fun times when mentioning Pyro, I'd imagine.
    Again, your video was really spectacularly made, I really hope to see more be made with even more information in them. MvM has been a super fun game mode to play, but I put off joining for so long because I was worried I wouldn't even be able to learn how to play without getting kicked constantly. I think that's kind of where my worry with the gas passer disdain comes from, as it's an item I enjoy deploying in Two Cities sometimes when I'm sick of Scout or Heavy or Engineer.

    • @jonohama3721
      @jonohama3721 Před 3 lety +23

      Oh I did not expect to see you here, great content from you and pride_

    • @nono-dy8ce
      @nono-dy8ce Před 3 lety +11

      big b r a i n

    • @foomongus2935
      @foomongus2935 Před 3 lety +17

      Oh yeah, forgot you also played tf2 and wasnt just a nintendo person, not that there is anything wrong with just being a mintendo person, some of my closest friends are nintendo people infact

    • @arkle519
      @arkle519 Před 3 lety +7

      This video is not incredible at all. It's far from it.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Před 3 lety +5

      @@arkle519 Why is it not incredible?

  • @darthball2723
    @darthball2723 Před rokem +10

    17:55 how mad milk is made

    • @markzone473
      @markzone473 Před 11 měsíci +1

      The description literally says "non milk substance"

  • @KoopaKoot
    @KoopaKoot Před 2 lety +1

    This guide is great. I'm trying to get back into tf2 and mvm so this is a big help.

  • @djraph6011
    @djraph6011 Před 3 lety +94

    "sniper bots" where have i heard that from?

  • @hatkid5904
    @hatkid5904 Před 3 lety +56

    Ah yes the classic MvM reaction
    "Why is everyone playing engineer or heavy"

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 Před 2 lety +2

      ...and why is that one Scout stuck T-posing?

  • @aetu35
    @aetu35 Před 2 lety +9

    Something left out of the video:
    You can go soldier a wave earlier if you use the Beggar's Bazooka since with that you only really need reload speed and damage to be effective (along with a point of health on kill ofc). It's the best rocket launcher already since it can output a more consistent stream of damage but you need to practice and get used to it.

  • @mochaaaq
    @mochaaaq Před 10 měsíci

    ive been trying to get into mvm recently (i have under 50 hours on tf2 total), and omg this video is such a big help. i know its been over two years since its creation but its still helping a lot of people like myself :)

  • @bennyputin8746
    @bennyputin8746 Před 3 lety +74

    How it FEELS to play MvM

  • @DisabledGod
    @DisabledGod Před 3 lety +60

    17:21 I'm the heavy weapons guy on the left :)
    Nice video though, hope to see more people playing expert (with a brain)

  • @Station68
    @Station68 Před rokem

    Thank you so so much for this! this got me into TF2 and a whole great community!

  • @darknight101g_Gameing

    Love it, this perfect for beginners to build off of thanks for your help.

  • @jvbutalid8316
    @jvbutalid8316 Před 3 lety +28

    15:05
    "you were the chosen one! you were supposed to destroy them, not join them!"

    • @Pride_1
      @Pride_1  Před 3 lety +6

      That’s exactly the reaction I was looking for

    • @SG-fm9wd
      @SG-fm9wd Před 10 měsíci

      God I get tired of jokes like this

  • @Paulunatr
    @Paulunatr Před 3 lety +39

    This is a great guide! I really appreciate you making it clear that "THE META" isn't something that's set in stone, as well as explaining common misconceptions. I've been playing MvM since it came out (in spite of the ungodly-long queue times back in the day) but still don't have a completed tour. I couldn't begin to guess the number of times I've been kicked/raged at for doing something even slightly off-meta, even though I can play every class reasonably well in MvM. I hope more people watch this and can learn to be more accepting, because expert mode is fun stuff.

  • @jakestan1185
    @jakestan1185 Před 2 lety

    I just finished my first tour on 2 cities thank you this guide helped so much

  • @linusdickens4767
    @linusdickens4767 Před 2 lety +10

    -Almost tied him
    -4000 damage difference

    • @DellConagher1
      @DellConagher1 Před rokem +3

      'Tell me you know nothing about mvm without telling me you know nothing about mvm'

  • @prediculous8059
    @prediculous8059 Před 3 lety +148

    The fact that this man explained everything what I've always asked for 2 months in the internet, only to get answers in a 24:30 long video
    Get better, Reddit

    • @dimitriwarchief301
      @dimitriwarchief301 Před 3 lety +11

      Yeah go home reddit

    • @brunaotube
      @brunaotube Před 3 lety +21

      In pretty sure that redditors Just play two cities

    • @doriantermini
      @doriantermini Před 3 lety +17

      Wait, you're asking reddit for tips? Reddit doesn't know shit. Everyone there is retarded.

    • @ilikewindows3455
      @ilikewindows3455 Před 3 lety +8

      You asked a hive mind for tips. I mean come on man

    • @btfo420
      @btfo420 Před 3 lety +8

      reddit is like twitter.
      It’s an echo chamber full of jaded people.

  • @momothemagecat
    @momothemagecat Před 3 lety +18

    11:21 i like that this segment is a lazypurple reference

  • @sirultim8643
    @sirultim8643 Před 2 lety +1

    I like the lazypurple reference you did on the heavy part

  • @qbert8695
    @qbert8695 Před rokem +5

    Honestly, I have no idea why the Recall canteen is so much overlooked. This is insanely good tool for escaping inevitable death, which is especially good for Spy.

  • @lordofchaos1845
    @lordofchaos1845 Před 3 lety +43

    4:42 Well that took a dark turn lol.

  • @lettuceman1806
    @lettuceman1806 Před 3 lety +41

    underrated. if you carry on with this effort, the quality will improve exponentially overtime(it is already great now) ,and I expect for your channel to blow up in the future, if the algorithm allows it.

    • @Pride_1
      @Pride_1  Před 3 lety +10

      Thanks, I'm glad to know all the effort I poured in isn't going to waste

  • @milansavic5490
    @milansavic5490 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the lazypurple reference with positioning the heavy

  • @Noah_3885
    @Noah_3885 Před rokem +1

    its 2023, and i find this to be helpful. thanks!
    also, you were right about beginners getting kicked all the time. it happened to me on expert 2 days ago.
    in a way, this video opened my eyes. now i understand how to play correctly. thank you again!
    please anyone, give me some good tips and/or another video tutorial. thanks

  • @TKmeh
    @TKmeh Před 3 lety +15

    I played expert mode once before, since I was so new including my friend who had extra tickets I actually asked what I should play since I was decent at medic. The other guy in the team using VC actually explained how to play engie effectively after a certain wave, god bless you man for helping the newbie medic/engie in expert! I’ve only been kicked once before by these tacobot asshats but also with an apparently very high tour MVM regular whom me and my friend had never heard from but enjoyed playing with, Is It Winter Yet had fun with ya man if you’re reading this! Thanks for sticking around us two noobs for so long to waste the Tacobots time!

  • @Madhayter
    @Madhayter Před 3 lety +12

    19:32 the best sound to ever exist.
    Also thank you for this lol.

    • @micahbell7763
      @micahbell7763 Před 3 lety +2

      Lyrics:
      Verse 1:
      *Goes to the 6th dimension*
      Chorus:
      AAAAAA-

  • @Marxdaft
    @Marxdaft Před 10 měsíci +2

    look, i know gas passer is hated on, but i think that absolutely juicy and succulent noise it makes when i kill over 5 bots at the same time is like more satisfiying than an fidget toy out there, plus its basically a free game win if the team knows what they're doing, and gas passer got me a 47 dollar proffessional killstreak sniper rifle fabricator so i cant complain

  • @RRUUNBEENN
    @RRUUNBEENN Před rokem

    After a long time having this video being recommended I finally watch it

  • @Amazing_Toast
    @Amazing_Toast Před 3 lety +49

    I like to run eyelander demoknight with max upgrades on the sword, usually kill heal first. The bots are easy to kill for heads and you can easily kill more after at least one head.

    • @meem6154
      @meem6154 Před 2 lety

      I prefer swing speed then heal then crits then damage

    • @oscarp8376
      @oscarp8376 Před 2 lety +1

      I do the same but with half zatoichi swing speed crits on kill damage

  • @DrewHelander
    @DrewHelander Před 3 lety +72

    As a soldier main I feel heart broken.

    • @exilecrusher7271
      @exilecrusher7271 Před 3 lety +8

      Don't worry too much about. Depending on the team, soldiers still is pretty good and usable, just not as simple as heavy spam. If you wanna actually do damage, use splash damage to your advantage. Or just use the Beggars and mash lmb to watch everything die.

    • @MajiriTadakichi
      @MajiriTadakichi Před 3 lety +1

      I'm not even good at soldier i just think he's fun and I've done it before

    • @megaagentj2248
      @megaagentj2248 Před 2 lety

      Mvm is basically a different game. Classes have different roles and the meta is entirely flipped on it’s head, you will probably find a different class to play in mvm

  • @InquisitorSinCross
    @InquisitorSinCross Před rokem

    Thanks to this video I started playing Expert. Got my first Australium today only after three tours!!!!

  • @JamesTrifolium
    @JamesTrifolium Před 9 měsíci +3

    Insta-killing giants with the Scottish Resistance: Good.
    Spamming explosive headshots with the Hitman's Heatmaker: Good.
    Using the Gas Passer and then being hindered by a cooldown: Gulag.
    Real solid logic you got there, champ.

    • @DespOIcito
      @DespOIcito Před 3 měsíci

      It is solid logic, you just somehow missed the very simple point that was explained in the video. Both of those require skill to do. Demo needs to know where the giants will be and when to make sure his trap is actually effective, make sure he can afford crit canteens, and make sure he doesn't die and waste his trap. Sniper was already explained.
      I don't care if people want to use the gas passer, but you can't deny that it doesn't take anywhere near as much skill to throw and wm1

    • @JamesTrifolium
      @JamesTrifolium Před 3 měsíci

      @@DespOIcito Having money and a reaction time faster than half a minute takes skill, now?

    • @DespOIcito
      @DespOIcito Před 3 měsíci

      @@JamesTrifolium having money does take skill, yes, because you need to balance upgrades for damage/survivability and money for canteens, especially if your money collector ends up missing credits for whatever reason or you're on earlier waves and can't afford to be wasting credits
      what is "reaction time faster than half a minute" in reference to? nothing in mvm allows for a reaction time as slow as that. i get you're exaggerating for your point but i genuinely don't know what you're talking about

    • @JamesTrifolium
      @JamesTrifolium Před 3 měsíci

      @@DespOIcito Oh right, I forgot. Giants walk at the same speed as small bots.

    • @DespOIcito
      @DespOIcito Před 3 měsíci

      @@JamesTrifolium i still don't understand what you're referring to