Simon Jordan SAYS Kane Should START VS NED But Southgate Has To SUB HIM If He Doesn't PERFORM đ€Żđ€
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 8. 07. 2024
- Simon Jordan says Southgate has some tough decisions to make but Kane should start against The Netherlands, but he must substitute Kane if he does not perform.
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What Alex says is one of the problems with the media. "If he leaves Harry Kane on the bench and England get knocked out, that will come back to haunt Gareth and will be used as a stick to beat him with." If he drops Kane and England get knocked out, that will be used as a stick to beat Southgate with! Can't get it right either way!
Southgate shouldnt be paying any regard to the media. He should be doing what is right for the team.
Alex Crook would beat him with a stick if he left Kane out because he's clueless, the problem is most of the media are as brain dead as crook is
He should ask Kane to go hard into challenges than sub him off due to a potential injury.
@@heppolo he doesn't even get in the box to get on the end of crosses there's no way Kane will be making tackles
@@TheSixYardBox he was trying in the extra time đ
Kane is not Able.
Nice one
See what you did there đ
Larry pane is the king of diving and whinging. Overrated
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Absolute joke . Heâs shouldnât be starting . Makes me sick
Makes you sick that our best finisher who has already scored twice in this tournament is starting?
Bruh. There's something wrong with you people. Disgusting.
@@Behold__Optic_Blast best finisher đ€Šđœââïžhave you seen him play for England the past 4 years .
Why settle for two goals against pub teams?
It happens every time sheringham , Rooney now kane . England Managers canât see when itâs time to move on from the favourites
@@saviola5194 yes, he's a better finisher than Toney and Watkins, numbnuts. And yes, I have. I remember him scoring pretty regularly and that's why he plays.
Duh.
Your argument is what? There is nothing other than your say so to suggest Toney or Watkins would be a better option. Toney is for sale and nobody even wants him ffs lmao.
@@saviola5194 and lol at you liking your own comment. Says it all really, doesn't it? You trying to convince yourself but you're just clueless mate.
@@Behold__Optic_Blast thatâs what I thought no argument against .
Didnât know I could like my own comment 6 times .
Grow up
Wasnât it Kane who missed the penalty against France last tournament? Yes it was.
đHow many pens has Messi and Cr missed? You dumb!
Kane is a good player but unfortunately, itâs not working for him in this tournament. The team isnât scoring enough goals and you need to look no further than Harry Kane. Heâs slow, not in position and probably carrying an injury. I donât know why Gareth Southgate canât see this.
@@frankkyfrankky8502 agreed he definitely doesn't look fit and his positioning has been awful
Kane 2 goals. Look no further than him? LOL.
Where is the chance creation from our long list of world class attacking midfielders and wide players?
Scapegoating kane when the team and entire squad balance was wrong from the start is just pure ignorance.
I think he is carrying an injury but he also hasn't had runners going beyond him or getting to the byline enough for him to link up. He has scored 2 goals as well already tbf
Kane historically is a choker in the big games, Toney doesn't carry that baggage and he is fresh and fully of confidence.
Alf Ramsey dropped Jimmy Greaves for Geoff Hurst ...Southgate doesn't have the balls to do it
Kanes goals per games record at club level and international level is phenomenal. People are so fickle. He isnât playing well but my god people forget
Jimmy Greaves had a even better goal record and he didn't get picked when fit for the rest of the 66 finals.
Gianluca Vialli was the golden boy for italy yet toto Schillaci got a chance to become the best striker
Will not be surprised if Watkins or Toney make an big impact if they get the chance.
You only have to look a Portugal to see what happens if your selection is hampered by brand politics which definitely is a factor in keeping an out of form unfit kane in the team.
@@realtalk8665 Or more likely. Kane start scoring in the Semi. With his ability to score goals I would never drop him. Statistically Kane will score vs Holland. Give me a thumbs up when it happens. đ BTW. I don t see a Schillaci when I see Toney or Watkins play. Do you? Schillaci scored goals for fun. How many goals did Toney and Watkins score. Combined if you wish? How you can compare is beyond me.
â@@realtalk8665rubbish. Greaves had 14 stitches and was not fit for the 66 final.
â@@realtalk8665Greaves was injured!
Like it or not England has missed Henderson maybe not for his football but for his leadership and tenacity.
He would rather Lose with his Favourites than Win without them
Spot on Simon. Get Toney on in the 60th minute
He should be starting for at least 60 minutes. Kane needs to be the sub for once!
stoke city's toney is only in the squad because england lack quality in that position
I promise you right now! You start tony ! He would do nothing! Players like Tony you should only bring on with 15 mins to ago ! Van Dijk would eat tony for breakfast
â@@bossbod3163 you think he'll have trouble with Kane? Kane looks easy to defend this month.
@@dondominic322 toney is only in the squad because england lack quality in that position, he plays in the bottom half of the prem, he's never scored 20+ goals, never played in europe, never won anything, he's nearly as old as kane, palmer can do it all, is arguably the best finisher in the world & he should be leading the line for england
Kane has the same amount of goals as Mbappe. The top scorer is only on three.
Mbappe also playing way off the pace but I doubt the French are scapegoating him and abusing him like our fans are trying to do. We used to criticise the media for building up our team just so they can tear them down, nowadays our own fans just tear them down and abuse them and we ain't even losing yet lmao. This is football "supporting" in the social media era.
Mike Tyson was right, that's all I'm saying...
â@@Behold__Optic_Blastexactly...England are in the semi finals...and haven't lost a single game yet when you hear people talk it seems they were knocked out in the group stage
@@adeyinkabenjamin9537 our fans are really letting us down, I'm actually ashamed at this point. Literally abusing our own players like it's a vendetta while we're in a semi final and still have a chance of getting it done. How can we possibly expect the team to win under pressure like this?
lol matter of fact mbappe has 1 kane 2
Why doesnât one of these reporters just ask him if heâs injured? And why he plays so frigging deep? đ€·đ»ââïž
England got to do what Simon says, simple
He did not cramp up, he bottled the penalties.
Love how Stuart Pearce slipped in there that Cole Palmer has been better than Foden and Bellingham combined when he's come in.
Has he ever won anything? As a professional? Answer is no, so shouldn't be an automatic choice imo
I think you have to keep things real. Foden has only scored 4 times in 39 caps, so as an England player we don't see his great club form. Bellingham's has scored 5 in 34 caps. Kane has scored 64 in 96 caps. So for me he should start the first half, 2nd half Toney.
There's a one match time lag between us working something out and Gareth seeing who was right. The man doesn't listen to advice and tomorrow reality will catch up with him.
Saying Kane âalways starts a tournament slowlyâ while there are only 2 possible matches for them is ridiculous.
Hard for bellingham , foden etc to look good when kane is contactly dropping deep next to them (sometimes behind them ) and hes not stretching the defence and running behind. Even if hes just dragging the CBs deeper it creates so much room for bellingham and foden to run into , pick up lose balls , win it high up pitch etc
Kane is englands record goal scorer but whats even more impressive is the fact he's done it from cdm, where he tends to be 90% of the match. Watkins and Toney have been really hard done by, look at the energy Watkins gave the team when he made his appearance, stretching the defence, running in behind! Kanes clearly injured, should be dropped.
Stuart Pearce once bought on David James upfront ⊠ignore everything he says
Finally someone called out crook. He was anti ten hag (as he should be), now hes totally on the other side. At least have integrity christ, no shame
How can you say that neither Watkins or Toney have done enough to show they should start, how are they supposed to show that with tiny cameos off the bench?!
Watkins had a brilliant season!
Agreed. Toney has helped create a goal and scored a key penalty in his short time also, and deserves a chance to start. Kane should be a "super" sub for once!!
@@Mikejames1080So did Kane he is a brilliant player way above these two in talent and levels. He just hasnât been playing well. Vebnables stuck with shearer and he came good
@@michaelmulhall5007 that's true, and he will play. My only concern is he looks like he's lost his mobility, or maybe he's just tired. He isn't the only one that's looked tired. Bellingham looked absolutely exhausted too towards the end of that game!
Is it Kane or the system that's the problem. Ivan Toney's time on the pitch, albeit limited, hasn't generated a single shot.
he's got one assist and one penalty goal this tournament so far. Not bad for about 40mins of play
Ever since england was in the semis, the media have been engaging former footballers and managers to review on players performance on the next match. It will be wise to leave the selection and tactics by the England manager.
I'm not a huge fan of Kane but he has to start the game due to his record, stature in the game, and our best finisher. However, Southgate cannot be afraid to take him off after 60 minutes if Kane is being ineffectual and we need another type of forward, e.g. the pace of Watkins. The Dutch is a different sort of game, they will attack more which will create more space for England to play.
Dear Pundits⊠PROBLEM IS:
Southgate CANNOT create a team wide enough to constantly cross ball in the box
Therefore Kane , or Toney or Watkins going to be WASTEDâŠ
How is he englands greatest goalscorer? 100 goals vs San Marino. No one cares. He canât score when it matters. France pen being the example
Whoâs done better for England than him. Remember England havenât won anything for decades, so pretty much all the English strikers went trophyless on international level.
@@mikerotchburns2568 Charlton, Owen, Beckham, Ferdinand, Ashley Cole and Rooney
@@Tails7212Up front he meant
â@@michaelmulhall5007 Owen definitely did it better . Scored in huge games . Argentina, Brazil , Portugal , Germany . List goes on . And those opponents at the time had so much more quality that they do today
What a stupid comment lmao. First of all, he's scored against more teams than just the likes of san Marino. Secondly, he plays against the same opposition every other England player did. Thirdly, he DID score one penalty against France too, funny how you people seem to neglect mentioning that while you roast him for missing another, which was against his club teammate too btw.
He is factually England's greatest goalscorer, both in numbers period and at major tournaments too. The disrespect from trolls is actually getting disgusting at this point. This is the way you treat your captain who has tried to lead the lads to victory in England's best period in over 40-60 years.
When you get knocked out, don't complain about it because you deserve F all.
Kane is our Ronaldo. A star who is bigger than the team. It will cost us. Gareth hasnât he guts to drop him. Maybe he will run in this game, but I donât expect it.
Do you remember the 1 v 1 Toney had in the Slovakia game Kane wouldâve put that away
Kane "cramped" up because he pussed out and didn't want to take a penalty. Dude, still has PTSD from his WC miss.
If you think that you slow!
Yâall are all talking drop Kane drop Kane wen u have a player in Foden who doesnât have 2 goals this tournament like can and still will not talk about him⊠I will never understand the English media always making excuses for Foden day in day out and never criticize him
Start with palmer instead of foden and he can stick with keep kane if he want, you can't just continue without making any change.
He has to start and anyone whoâs different is just wrong!
He is head and shoulders above watkins and toney
There is a semi final you do not drop Kane.
If Southgate dropped him and got beat can you imagine the press and all fans
All these people wanting to drop Kane, havent a clue, the bench these days are players that have the ability to impact the game, change things and give the opposition a different problem, i dont see Kane as an impact player ,he relys on others to set him up.
It would certainly help if Kane could actually run
saka put numerous balls into the box against switzerland and he was never anywhere near the ball. he had 2 of the best number 10s in the world behind him in the same game. so your argument doesnt stand up sorry gary
So he's not able to impact a game if he starts or as a sub.
So we agree thenđ
@@garywilson1235 we play park the bus football with not pace on the counter attack
Why keep a liability on the pitch! Drop him.
it looks increasingly like Kane is a Jonah and is jinxing whichever team he plays for!
Kane scoring a Hattie? Scoring a set?? đ cat in French? Three đ
Don't start Kane. Sub him on in the 60th minute and he'll have time to study the game.. he'll be more likely to score and he'll have more energy/confidence for extra time and the final.
Kane has been horrific. Forget his goals they were both tap ins. He plays from a CDM position, canât find a pass, never runs in behind. Horrific
Iâm a golfer - football people make football sound far too complicated- when it shouldnât be - Kane is not fit - but still he plays every single game - same with Rooney - Same with Beckham - Kane will start and play every minute regardless - every one knows it
why wait for kane to do f'all.... drop him from the off and give toney a chance
And the build up goes on but wait if they lose, they'll thrash them as deeply as possible and in particular Soutgate.
It's 1:02pm that is 2:01pm in Germany
No it would be 2:02pm you clown
Listening to Southgate makes me feel sick, "all they had to deal with in the early stages?" A piss easy draw? The players love Southgate as he lets them do just what they want.
Alex just proving a point saying neither Watkins or Toney have done enough to dislodge Kane, that is the whole problem, Kane has been ineffective all tournament, and Southgate has still stuck with him
Toney is our Nial Quinn option if we need another outlet.
So u were basically scared kane would miss ir not handle the pressure
Should bring him on at 60 mins. Can use the diving cnut for pens if required.
The players change but the way they're forced to play hasn't since the failed final against Italy...
Weâre play park the bus football but Harry Kane got no pace and canât break on the counter attack
Kane should definitely be on the team, but should not be an automatic starter and is a weak captain. He has always failed to deliver in the biggest moments previously, and has largely disappeared so far in this tournament too.
I think Kane just needs to goal-hang more. I keep seeing him tracking back and defending. Admirable, but then he's not in place when the play breaks in England's favor.
I've seen him winning quite a few of these challenges in Euro 2024, which is admirable. Still, he's nearly 31, was never fast when he waw young, and doesn't have the pace to get back into the 9 position.
he's England's best striker no doubt but he's not fully recovered/fit from the injury he got at Bayern yet
It's the semis and Gareth is still starting the same players and expecting something different.
Weâre in the semi-final and heâs scored 2, 1 being the winner in a game. Van Dyke will be hoping he isnât playing, will give him an easier night.
Shore should help , Kane for 45 minutes then review . Palmer should be looked at in relation to Foden . Due to the long season for some players we should have rotated more ,some players look leggy.
you mean Shaw?
Bring him on at half time if required and my first 45 mins would go to Ollie Watkins I think he is the best English striker at the current time
Gareth Southgateâs Ai speaks more sense than he does!! Christiano Kane, the man who canât be dropped.
He cant score without the ball, every chance we get its back back back...pickford must be goosed đđ
I actually agree with Simon Jordan. Its probably still worth starting Kane but he looks so tired, he should be substituted much much earlier. Southgate seems to be scared to take his big name players off.
how??? He only scores in extra time - dont you want to just score in normal time and win the game?
Saying will van dijk is wrong, he wonât be playing against kane as kane plays just in front of our back four đ
Thought exactly the same as stuart when he put toney on with an excuse to not hurt kanes feelings. Its a joke how he starts
Garth talks like Kane is on the battle field in Ukraine
England should have Stuart Pierce as manager. But he isn't a yes man and he will likely upset a few egos. Which is exactly why he should have the job, and exactly why he won't get it.
Give Kane first 45 minutes but he must run and press.
Kane has looked like he's running through sand. Toney or Watkins are more likely to do damage to the opposition in terms of their general play. Watkins must feel gutted to not have got more minutes
How many chances must Harry try to perform before heâs removed? I donât get it.
Southgates not gonna rock the boat, hes probably thinking ive reached the semis with players not playing in their natural positions used hardly no subs throughout the game and keep playing a below par striker...jobs done
Turned the national team in England Hotspur
It's not like we've got a history of winning things before him mate
Why did the golden generation fail then? Kane wasnât even in that squad, who was the curse then?
@@Bert-lw1otThank you! Itâs nice to see someone that has a sense of reality, everyone jumps on this bandwagon about Kane being cursed and that heâs cursed England when England werenât winning anything before Kane.
â@@mikerotchburns2568you saying it's England that's cursed and not kane so ? đ
@@chucky7826 yes.
He never performs, he always gets subbed. Why do we insist on bringing out our best players for 10 minutes and also leave great talent in the bench. When Gordon came in first 4 minutes he created more danger than kanes managed in 5 games. If he was a workhorse he would already be glue.
All the technology now and you still have to use headsets thst look like your eating a mini roll,
He might be a positive presence in the camp but he is barely a presence on the pitch in this tournament.
We need to keep starting him over and over and over again and just hope something drastically different happens out of nowhere!
You either play Kane with a striking partner or you drop him
firstly kane wont perform and secondly gareth hasnt got the balls to sub him.
I agree Kane hasnât looked great. But people are also using him as a scapegoat imo. Many players arenât performing and he is often left basically to himself with nobody to cross it to, or no one to help him in the attack. Itâs a whole team problem
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Spain manages with Morata, so why can't England do the same with kane it's up to the creative players to supply the ammo,it's clear the so-called creative players are not good enough.
Exactly and Kane is a way better finisher than him
We know what Southgate will do he will keep kane on the field for as long as he can then substitute him with toney when it's to late. I hope Southgate thinks outside of his box for once. From Justin in West Midlands, England đŽó §ó ąó „ó źó §ó ż.
English media defending Harry kane saying he is injured and still criticised other players if he's injured give other players a chance to play stop defending him
Kane is having an easier time in the Bundesliga The defences are nowhere near as good as the premiership Its the reason Eric Dier went as well
We dont need him. We are bristling with players who can score. What we need is a striker who will allow them to shine.
Why bring Palmer if he doesn't play him? Waiting for Kane or Bellingham to break a leg? Kane pulls defenders away !!!! So, others can score!!!
soft media! its like being labelled a traitor, or its taboo to say Harry Kane has been horrendous! If you want to win play your in forms, if you dont carry on with the same mates -rates. No media have the spine to just be out with it. If this was Ivan Toney being selected by name alone and playing this bad, hed be dropped thats the end of it!
If he doesnt touch ball significantly in first 25 mins get him off the team have been carrying him and players like foden and bellingham are suffering because of him lack of closing down making runs etc
A fantastic striker. Been on strike for the whole tournament. Very dependable.
Pearce needs to be put in a strait jacket. His opinion is his, and his alone.
C'mon Nederlands!!!!
Give other players a chance man, Kane has not turned up at ALL.
Arsna
Talk Sport whatâs the point in Alex being on the panel? Doesnât offer anything
Not sure what he brings to journalism in general to be honest đ
Why start him. Try someone else if it doesn't work out, and bring him on 60 min. If not conceded, it's not problem. All these players have done 2 lots of extra time and rest of them haven't had a kick. Southgate fault not resting players and trying others to late now
Harry only needs to play good once, and he won the game for England
Disagree. Kane is visibly knackered so I will like to see toney start and Kane to be introduced on 60 minutes.
Of the current crop , how many get into the France team ? Kane in his prime , walker and thatâs it !
Stones, Bellingham, foden, Saka
Imagine idiots talking about kane as a player when he is literally getting no service.hes a fact weve had 13 corners in 5 games
Kane can't win a ball in the air or press the back line. Give Ivan his shot, he is motivated and ready to lead the line.
If something put them both on
Not on form. Drop him for someone hungry to score.
Ah, the England football team at Euro 2024, where hopes and dreams go to take the ultimate stress test. They've been navigating through the tournament with the grace of a double-decker bus in a china shop, managing to scrape through to the semi-finals where they'll face the Netherlands. With a win probability that makes you wonder if they're playing football or flipping coins, England's squad is a mix of seasoned veterans who've seen more physio rooms than goals lately, and young talents who are probably just happy to be past their bedtime and playing with the big boys. It's all eyes on Harry Kane, who's been as invisible on the pitch as a ninja in a blackout, to step up and prove that form is temporary, but class is... well, also apparently temporary.
Kane shouldnât start Iâve had it all now!! Mate he is Iâll best striker. no striker in this tournament has gone well! Itâs not just Kane! Teams have been hard to break down ! The guy got 36 goals last season! You pundits are stupid!
He'll play regardless what people's opinions are đ
When did Toney last score a goal
Kane has been shite
Says an arsenal fan đ€Żđđ
Pearce has a lot of common sense stuff to say I think
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@@moinedee7935 nice chatting with you đ