I 100%'d Pokemon Legends Arceus and watched Pokemon Horizons.
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- A year ago I would've said "Pokémon is dying", and while financially that'll never be the case I would've meant it in the quality sense. Fast-forward to present day and while I do think there's majority-bad stuff going on that deserves critique... Think of this video as my summation of my two personal bright spots!
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0:00 intro
1:14 Pokemon Legends: Arceus
7:41 Pokemon Horizons
14:13 Pokemon's period of revitalization
15:33 outro - Hry
The Legends series is definitely Pokémon’s “lightning in a bottle” in the modern day. As you touched on, the cynical almost cautious view of Pokémon still grounded as wild animals in Legends Arceus is refreshing but I can’t help but be a tad concerned for Z-A being set in a modern-ish Kalos era and that deducting from the “refined” storytelling of Legends Arceus because it might fall back into the “Pokémon Wonderful” and “Everything great because I have my Pokémon” mindset.
Though I will say, I definitely don’t perceive Pokemon’s main series games in such a dire spot but rather they set-up things and proceed to let them flop such as Arven and his version respective parents, if they had expanded upon the grief Arven would’ve felt after that instead of “Shut up pussy, it’s adventure time” it would’ve given a more relatable, grounded look into the character’s conclusion and even given something to think about for the younger players. BDSP definitely weren’t it though and clearly they have known how to do a good remake in cases such as HG/SS and FR/LG, hell 7.8 Ruby/Out of too much water Sapphire were relatively decent remakes so I’m not quite sure why BDSP ended up as such a carwreck.
I reaaaaally hope you're wrong about Legends Arceus being lightning in a bottle, but I won't discount the possibility of it being true, totally fair. That's why I'm intrigued by this second title - Legends Arceus was a little rough around the edges but was a great concept, so now with Z-A this is Game Freak's chance to show off how serious they actually are about this series. My interpretation of the trailer for Z-A was that the scene of Lumiose City being modern-ish was a vision of the future thanks to the work of the redevelopment plan, so I'm anticipating it to be oldtimey again and the development happeniong over the course of the game like Jubilife did, except on a way bigger scale.
That whole plot detail was so jarring to watch as an adult - Arven had no development over those revelations and was basically told to shove down his traumas to keep hanging with his friends. And even if there's zero trauma for the character as a result of that, then his friends are just insensitive? Like I'm trying to imagine if they adapted that into the anime somehow, and that scene would be hella awkward.
Yeah ILCA needs to figure their stuff out with the remakes. I don't expect every one of them to be a masterpiece like HGSS were, but they've only declined since which is not a good look and doesn't bode well as a track record for Legends.
Legends is a main series game, if you go back to the trailers for it one of them tells you it's main series not side series
Thanks for the clarification, I will proceed to disagree with the Pokemon Company as I'd say Legends falls more in line with the likes of Coliseum and XD on Gamecube
how many legends games will they have to release for you to change your mind?
@@Graceleus There's not really any merit in changing my mind since it's officially main series anyway; there's also nothing wrong with any game being officially main series or not, it doesn't really mean anything to us players and is more of a product line/marketing thing.
If it came specifically to changing my mind though, I think it'd be cool if a Legends game was actually the game to kick off a new generation! Just the idea of a new or old region getting the Legends treatment with a dex of 75-100 new Pokemon would be undeniably main series to any naysayer at that point - plus that would rule.
We need Pokemon Origins realism.
I'd be open to that! Origins was another example of feeling more mature without being outright edgy so I'm 100% in favour. Thanks for watching!
I'm honestly crossing my fingers they try to replace the numbered games with Legends. The numbered games are super repetitive and I think they exhausted everything not terrible they could do with the formula around 6 and 7. There is a staleness to knowing you'll fight 8 story bosses and then 5 more in the end game and you are done unless they have a postgame, and massive postgames are harder to do in the modern era. They can do far better on post games though. It feels like they are trying to duck tape on a bunch of other stuff to the formula to freshen it up, but sports, school settings, ugly open worlds and random flashy gimmicks just don't synergize. They went through everything they could to keep the games fun and fresh without breaking the formula completely, but I think that's what they need to do now.
Sadly unless the sales numbers for Legends shoots up between entries to sell mid-20 millions like the mainline games do, i wouldn't hold any faith in Legends ever replacing the generational titles, especially when there's still a metric ton of people buying both games in the grand scheme of things.
There wouldn't have to be a staleness to the formula of the games if there were still small but meaningful and inspired ways to switch up the tropes. Mario Wonder showed that off wonderfully last year - that a game can be formulaic and safe but just barely different enough that it can stand out. I think Game Freak tried this with Alola and it sort of worked, but it was promising too much of a change for basically just being "gyms but outdoors".
I really think the main titles would benefit from tying the story beats closer together for just one game and see how people like the changes. There's so much you could do with both story and gym/setpiece design by, for example, having an evil team that's fully infiltrated the pokemon league for influence instead of just in one gym like Giovanni did for team rocket. Gyms could have entire hideouts set up inside them that becomes part of the gym, or the plot demanding you revisit a gym to go into that extra part when it's revealed later in the plot. Pokemon needs to lean more into its JRPG genre.
@@Petrisha tying the team and gyms is a good idea.
Maybe for an open world it should be more region based too. Like you start in one area and have to find and fight "mini-gyms" or complete sidequests to collect medals or stamps from proctors to qualify for the real gyms. Then a couple more areas open up and you have to qualify for those gyms.
Maybe instead of gyms they could have multiple tournaments you qualify for and you have to win or come close to winning to enter the champion's tournament.