The Empathy Gap | The Science of Empathy
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- We all identify with different groups whether it be because of race, religion, or nationality. But do we empathize less with people who are outside of our “group”. On this week’s Science of Empathy, we look into a phenomenon known as “The Empathy Gap”.
Empathy deficit study: ssnl.stanford.edu/download/fil... Study 5
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Executive Producer | Mike Bernstein
Executive Producer | Matt Pittman
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Producer | Hashem Selph
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I have bias, I'm human. But I don't allow my bias to fuel hatefulness.
Speciecism is also a thing...
Latoya Tangelo exactly, the very beginning of this video and occasionally throughout where he sounded accusational, made me get slightly infuriated as I know that I am biased, but I don’t need to get a finger pointed at me for it, it’s just human nature and I understand that, so maybe in the future, they could talk to the audience as the smart people they are and not as little children
+Ima Unicorn They make these videos for an audience that is the vast majority 12-17. If you look at youtube stats, females aged 12-17 are the demographic on youtube most, so the tone of this video seems appropriate given this info. they are not intentionally being condescending to YOU.
Good response
I try not to let my biases fuel hateness in me, but I can't deny that they do, doesn't matter how hard I try, they still do.
I really think that the point of the video was too bring awareness to the potential bias that we can all have when interacting with someone that isn't "like" us.
Yes, this "study" isn't controlling for a lot of variables and should be done with a larger sample size. It still raises an important point though.
they should try it again and bigger. It also feels too perfect.
King Keegster
They should also do a listening without any picture
+jjspot Yea, definitely! Have a control group.
It's an experiment based on a larger study
The worst part about all of this is that not only we listen, try to understand and connect to people who are more like us, but we also don't judge them as harshly as we do when it comes to the ones who do. What we are missing out on is a completely new point of view, seeing the world through a different lens and discover things that are unique. Sadly, we all prefer hearing the information and ideas we can connect to and refuse (maybe on a subconscious level) beliefs that are not in sync with our own.
The problem with this kind of "research" is that it could be used as an excuse for racism.
At the end of the day, I think it is important for people to acknowledge that no matter how much we try, we will always fall short of perfection. By accepting that we are flawed and yet still striving to be as good a person as possible, we open ourselves to the possibilities and interpretations others may present to us. We free ourselves from our own pride and are able to better understand the lives of those around us. No matter how hard I fight against it, I know that I will fall short of perfection, I know that I will act unfairly at times, even if at the time I think I am doing the right thing. But I try not to let that stop me from striving to that goal. In response to Maria F, I think that all people are prejudice in some way or another, even if we fight to be exactly the opposite. I feel that it is because we know that we are flawed that we should show compassion to others that will also make mistakes, knowing that they too are flawed. That being said, I think that everyone should strive for love, compassion, unity and peace, even if we know that we will make mistakes along the way.
Maria F
What?
Quick Fix well said! 👌🏾
Nothing is more important than empathy to another person’s suffering, no matter the race, caste, religion or anything.
what if the person was a murder that kills babies
Murderer*
What about a rapist or Hitler
Too bad liberals don't agree
@@davetyler6520 Still crying Trumptard?
i think it would be interesting if yall did this again but with men and women
They wouldn't do it because it would reveal too much female nature
They chose women because women are encouraged to be feminine and emotional and therefore are more likely to be emotional. They could've chosen men too but it was one or the other to control a variable
Ha! Men don't have empathy for women. Only for males like themselves.
@@cillyhoney1892 lol sure buddy. Nice dichotomy you've got going on there. Says a lot more about you than about men.
I appreciate the two women who provided the honest answer about how they were relating to the person in the photo. The last woman who answered that question was obviously lying because she didn't want to seem biased or racist. But we're all human and we are all biased.
Right
I don't think she was lying. It seemed more like she was realising that it was a trick to see if she was biased, and she knew that she didn't know if she would feel differently - and actually questioned if that was the point. She looked more confused than trying to dodge a question. Knowing it's a test does make you question yourself, and that does make you confused if you don't do it often.
SSJKenpachiZaraki I see what your saying the way she answered the question with a slight pause and the long drawn out "noooooo" may seem like she was confused, but I don't think she was confused at all. It seems like she was thinking of a way to dodge the question because she didn't want to sit and take the time to think about an honest answer. That why I say she was lying.
Sandy, The white fragility concept seems relevant to this discussion...
I love this vivid example of how bias is impacting the way we think and behave everyday without always being conscious of it. There's so much more I can become aware in my own unconscious and conscious biases. Thank you! I always love and share your videos.
Please do get a bigger sample size and take into account the multitude of variables besides gender and skin colour aswell though. It would add to the point your trying to make because now all you showed is that humans can be biased which is true and nobody can really deny it. And I don't care about my bias because it does not fuel hatefulness.
"not skipping parts shows empathy"
huuuuuuge leap there. This could be anything at all. It could be patience for example.
Also, notice the two people who showed empathy had kids. That variable would need to be accounted for. There are so many variables here with such a small sample size that this is quite meaningless.
Also the Standford study is a small sample size (78). To be honest, I would say there could be a link, but that doesn't mean it holds true for everyone. I am sure there are loads of unbiased people (egalitarians).
I would have skipped most of the fluff because I would have been thinking about the questions at the end.
I am not biased though, so there we are :P
Of course it doesn't hold true to everybody but that's not the point of the video. It's to create awareness that we may be unintentionally closing ourselves off from those who think or who are different from us. The video was made to encourage us to listen and practice empathy more with not only the people we relate to but ALL people.
Katie Tuck Thank you Katie. Its honestly exasperating reading some of these comments. People focusing on the trees while missing the forest. I don't know, maybe some people think the presenter is a real scientist presenting his own clinical research. Just like Dr House is a real doctor.
There's actually been plenty of research and experiments conducted on subconscious biases. All the ones I've seen have yielded similar results.
Aha, but you only THINK you’re unbiased (sarcasm)
+Katie Tuck
There's only so much empathy a person can give though. Honestly it has less to do with race (this was the variable this video focused on) and more to do with if her story something you can relate with. She's not exactly telling her story in a captivating way so people could fast forward to get through the pauses. Also if someone lost a family member recently they're probably more likely to listen closer because they're thinking of their own family, not the storytellers. The storyteller is a stranger and that alone is enough to make people care less because it's not personal.
This whole "unconscious bias" thing is retarded. We don't need to care about everyone else's lives, and it would be ridiculous to even try. Unconscious bias means it's something you're not even AWARE you're doing, so how would you even attempt to fix that which you don't know exists?
Bias can only be addressed when it's conscious.
I think my bias is more about class than race. I find it hard to relate to or feel much empathy towards those who are wealthy or appear to have had an easy life. As a teenager i thought i was the least judgmental person, until one day i realized i made assumptions about the "popular kids" (you know the ones i mean) super fake blonde hair, makeup, designer clothes, have cars and phones bought for them by rich parents. I can empathize with anyone of any sex/gender/race if i feel they have had a rough life, but for some reason i see clean-cut people with a more shallow mainstream image and i make assumptions. I am trying to work on that and realize just because someone is well dressed and educated doesn't mean they weren't abused as kids or suffering mental health addictions etc.. It's just strange how i realized that i thought i was not judgmental because i didn't judge outcasts or the homeless. But then i realized i judged those i deemed to be the opposite. It's like i don't trust the "normal" people. (for lack of a better word) I judge them by assuming they will judge me. I will try not to assume that rich people treat others badly or have had a perfect life (guess perfect doesn't exist anyway)
NymphetaminexXxGrrrl i totallyshare the same feelings
I agree, but then again I may be wrong
NymphetaminexXxGrrrl my family is richer than most people in my area and people tend to get the impression that I'm stuck up just because I have nice things. What they don't know is that I've struggled with anxiety my entire life. So people think I'm judging them (because I guess they think that I think I'm better) but I'm really not and I actually feel like they're judging me.
Well i'm sorry that i was one of those people.. I do my best to admit when im wrong and think about my behaviours, i guess there's often judgment on both sides.. the rich sometimes look down on the poor, and the poor often having a mistrust or anger towards the rich or even middle class. There was a time when i was taken from a literal run down crack shack and placed in a nice fancy home, it didn't last long but for the time i was there i felt really uncomfortable about my surroundings and people perceiving me as being part of such a world. These days if i feel those thoughts creeping in i acknowledge them and then tell myself i am suffering some form of cognitive distortion and that my instincts are wrong. I do my best to live truly judgment free meaning i really strive not to make assumptions about anyone even those who "appear" to have it all. because i don't know them, or their story.
NymphetaminexXxGrrrl I wish more people were like you. It's so refreshing to see someone who is trying to not judge. There are so few people like that.
I would have skipped simply because I easily bore, have no patience, and am extremely selfish.
Well, at least you know yourself!
That's me
I like the honesty of the black people.
Maybe those black women were more honest about their bias because they didn't have to worry about being called a racist.
@@rohansonkusare7025 No. Black people can be racist and colorist, too.
Your operational definition of empathy is very suspect. You are assuming listening to more of the tape means they have more empathy, but how do you know someone is fast forwarding because they find it brings back sad memories or soething like that??
wait, that would just show the subject wasn't feeling empathy at all, empathy is connecting a similar feeling you have,had towards the other person feelings so that you can help/understand each other.
No, the subject coud very well be empathizing alot but just doesn't feel like listening to alot of the type for any number of reasons...
Exactly...I consider myself highly empathetic and find myself avoiding people relay painful details of their personal life.
slarz1108 you are actually having a good point though, it is possible that people fast forward more or less because of personal experiences.
That's why during an actual study like this you need to use a large amount of people (like 200 or something). Because of this, personal experiences will have less influence on the test results
This video just redid the experiment to be able to show others clearly
Except he talked to them later and saw that except for one of them, apparently that wasn't the case.
I would skip that story equally for both of them ;)
I don't have much patience. It does make me wonder how much empathy I really have, because stories like that just bore me most of the time.
You're a monster
me too!! that's what I was thinking while watching
I agree
I definitely might of done the same. She's not in the room I'm not cutting her off from unloading her pain. I just think that once I heard that she's was talking about losing her Grandmother to Cancer and how she felt about her Grandmother I'd think I had a good idea what she was feeling. That's why I think adding the speed element to this throws the whole thing off. If you just told people to listen and then quizzed or had them explain it with their own words after you'd get a better idea of who payed more attention and thought about what was said.
I don't have much patience either, but that's because of crippling ADHD not a lack of empathy. If the person was in front of me I'd engage and listen to them. There's just really no use in getting emotional over a story. I keep that emotional juice for the things I actually have influence on.
I have the opposite issue.
I despise people that I can relate with.
Not for any moral reason, it's just an irrational preference.
It also explains why I enjoy being alone.
Zac Winter lol same
I'm someone who is biracial, I don't resonant fully with one race because I have never felt enough of that race to truly 'fit' in. I also don't follow a specific religion, I go to a Christian church, I volunteer in a Catholic Church, I read from the Torah and the Quran, and I love watching CZcams videos on Hinduism and taking principles from each religion. I'm bisexual, again I don't associate myself with one group because I don't feel 'straight enough', I don't feel 'gay enough'. Although I am a cis female, I have gone through times of questioning my gender, sometimes feeling like I was meant to be a boy. I've lived half of my life in an area considered section 8 and half in a 'richer' area. I also could care less about sports. Although I do believe I have a small biased about the things I've listed, I don't think it would be a big factor. One would be I just have a lack of empathy and another would be based on personal experiences. I don't hate a person because of their race, I hate a person because of the way they treat me, of people they remind me of, of the vibe they give (and when I get bad vibe it's again because they remind me of someone I don't like or someone I've had a bad experience with).
Your experiences sound really valuable, being the middle of so many common identities usually treated as binary (fellow bi here, I know how that feels). I think almost everyone has unconscious bias for multiple characteristics of race, (dis)ability, gender, sexuality, class, age, body size, country of origin/accent etc. because we've all grown up in a society that has those biases deeply ingrained to its core and very very few people are able to avoid taking those on from a very young age even if their parents are amazing at educating about them all (because of so many other ways we absorb them from society eg. media, extended family, friends, the public when out and about etc; and most parents/role models aren't expert at them all).
I think It would have been interesting to have the same two photos, but a third group. Because I´m latina and I feel like the reaction could have been different from them.
Same. I'm Indian and I felt like if they had a third group that was neither white or black, they would have had a different reaction. Also would have been interesting with men and women.
Luján Bernal if latino is going to be included, might as well add Asian
I would have reacted the same to a white person and a Latina person just because I can't distinguish between white and Latina, I'm just saying, not everyone can tell the difference.
I'm curious.....what of mixed race individuals?
I think it depends on the race the race they identify with more, and the race they are mostly surrounded with (if you're mixed but mostly raized among blacks, you look more black, you identify more as black, you'll have more empathy for blacks)
there was a black girl who was clearly biracial
Part Korean part Arab and Im fully connected to both sides of my family? I don’t lean to one side more it’s equal to me.
I’m Italian and Mexican but I definitely look more white.
As an half Canadian Vietnamese individual I was raised in an urban environment. I attended a school in a catholic district and my family shared in friendships that had ties to multiple parts of the world. I had connections with individuals of African, Indian, Asian, Mexican, and European descent so I honestly don’t know how I’d react. To be honest I cherish all the people in my life, they’ve always been their for me through thick and thin. While I do personally correlate this video to racial belonging, bias, and general diligence to the original task assigned I can make a conclusion that their were, realistically too many variables to count. However, this video really was a fantastic eye opener and spoke towards the dynamics of our society and (while the results were dulled due to uncontrolled variables) showed us a new front to empathy.
my school showed this to us to address the empathy gap/racial empathy gap. especially since there was a series of racist events in our school. and yet i remember being in that classroom and only the people of color wanted to engage in the conversation, if even. it felt discouraging. but lovely video :) taught me a lot!
I would think that this experiment would have benefited from a second story, this time coming from the opposite woman. So each person heard two different stories, one by a black woman, one by a white woman. That's a real way to see the empathy gap in action.
But that would give away the "trick" of the experiment for that person.
yeah, maybe the people who skipped forward just had ADHD lol, there wasn't enough people to really draw a conclusion
Getting older and suffering pain (eg hips, knees, back, etc.) I've found a lot of people can't relate. They are healthy.
One day, I was talking to a stranger, and I saw his facial expression change. It was the strangest feeling as I blurted out "You have a hip problem! I recognize that expression." Oddly, I was delighted to find someone else who understood the extent of suffering and its sudden unexplainable onset and so sad that he was suffering because I know how bad it is for me.
I get that there's this gap, but it's devastating when it's a gap between you and your doctors. They wouldn't believe me when I had cancer. It took 4 years to convince them to test, and when tested, I was rushed into surgery and lost a body part as a result. It would not have happened if I had been listened to.
These are honestly things we should be learning in school and this is truly a well made reminder and lesson to all of us
I love these videos!!!
Interesting perspective..and very true
Though of course not scientifically perfect, aside from the small number of participants that was actually a really good operationalization of the problem! Finally a channel which understands how to make science videos without ridiculing the matter. Thanks for that! :)
love your videos
This was so interesting. They all looked at the photo before skipping the video
very good experiment
I love this.
Lovely comments from the listeners. Inspiring.
Growing up, I was the only person of my ethnicity in the entire school/location. I was a loner, while I tired to make friends I struggled with relating to them and them to relate to me. At some point I completely gave up on making friends. It was so difficult for me but at the same time i liked being on my own. My point is, relating to others is important.
Tbh I feel the editing of the video, and the way he asked question (why did u skip, why did u enjoy story) were biased to support his theory. Not saying the theory is wrong just the experiment and conclusion are wrong
Right. Like he made sure they answered a certain way with the questions he asked.
Personal Storys always get me!! :*
Why is your channel called soulpancake? Sorry I’m just really curious😂
Purple * good question🤔
maybe the channel and its videos are meant to be a treat for the soul ;)
have a nice day😄
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I think it is called soul pancake cuz it take a vat of your soul and flattens it so you understand something.....
I applaud you, it's very very true. if you see past the surface it's all the same.
I'm empathetic to a lot of people...I catch the empathy right away....when they say they lost their grandma and to cancer it connects to everyone I've known well who went through that and my own experiences with it...I don't need all the specific examples to feel empathy...and I don't feel like crying about it, one doesn't have to cry along with someone to empathize and I don't want to go to that level-- I just want to be able to relate to what she's going through and then offer support or whatever is needed. The fact that the person leading the research gave specific instructions to listen AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE that would have made me skip 90% of it after she laid out the basic situation. If they had said to Listen as CAREFULLY as possible so I could share the story with others to help other empathize, etc. then I would have listened to most of it so I could retell her story accurate and give some of her examples. But I didn't need all those details for ME to empathize. I empathize and cry from just reading tweets or articles at times.
It would have been hilarious if they switched the photos at the end and said "this is the real Natasha". The reaction would have been priceless after investing so much emotion to someone they thought was their own race.
lol I thought about that too but it might've made them too defensive. They were in a vulnerable space after showing so much emotion so even telling them about the real test was pretty sensitive already.
My grandmother died of cancer in 2014 so this video caught me very deeply
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There is a lot of bias involves loved in this experiment. The sample size is quite small, and so the data won’t be statistically significant. Yes, I know there are many studies similar to this which have had the same results, however this study would have to be fairly extensive in order to be free of bias. You would need an accurate population and to calculate that population parameter, then you would need to draw a sample, and before drawing the sample you would need to survey your population to find out what women are more sensitive to stories like that and those who are less sensitive because otherwise you never know it might just be influenced by their personal connection or emotions towards the experience that the person in the recording is sharing.
Hannah Cantrell You are biased.
Dude if that was me I would’ve listened to the whole thing bc I love stories lol
Nice video, but I was wondering what is the name of the outtro music?
you should’ve made them listen to two stories both long and detailed but both storytellers were of a different race, I think that would’ve gotten better results because what if the women skipped over people of the opposite race because that’s just how they are? idk I feel like the results would’ve been more accurate that way
The important thing is to recognize that we have biases because that is the only way we can consciously remove them in order to see past them.
I honestly feel to be biased isn’t a natural thing at least for me. I remember the story of an frank so vividly and I was very attentive to her struggle and the struggle of all Jews. Same with the history of Native Americans regardless of race, ethnicity or culture. I do believe their are people out here that are completely without bias
I didn't skip this video, so what does that say about me?
One can truly understand only what one has been through. That doesn't mean we can't show compassion toward different experiences.
Ah those comments saying this isn't a good study... Well it was never set out to be which is why they refer to the real study in the description.
1:42 What a lovely smile
Before i even watched this i already knew im biased. Everyone is a little biased even if they dont admit it.
Bahaha. His reaction at 4:50 like "heck, idk".
I'd like them to do this experiment again but with people that are surrounded by both colours. Just to (hopefully) show it isn't necessarily an innate trait to be biased against people of other colour and it is just the group thing.
a bit off topic but, i find that a lot of people view empathy as somehow superior or "better" than sympathy, caring for someone else's misfortune or suffering is sympathy, whereas with empathy means you simply had a similar or identical experience in the past, it does not mean you care, you can show both sympathy AND empathy at the same time, it's not always one or the other. I find that a lot of people say they empathize with someone while not actually holding any directly similar experience, 90% of the time what they mean is they sympathize with that person.
I think you have that backwards. Sympathy means that you are feeling their pain too. Empathy is understanding that they have pain.
That one lady like ‘do _i_ think so? NOOO’ sounded like she didn’t want to be “racist” by saying she relates more to a person she looks like
This world is definitely a lil brighter because of SoulPancake, thank you...
People with big hearts are hot people for sure.
Lastly, I love you Julian.
I literally tear up when people fast forwarded... I don’t know why. I know biases are real but dang.
I was always excluded from playing with classmates at school or going out with "friends" because I was fat. I guess the empathy gap was what was happening 😓
Idk but this still makes me sad that this is how ppl think
You have to see that it's not a choice though. I think you do understand that. It's just the way our brains work. Psychology and sociology teach us about the way groups work and it makes sense we would want to feel empathy in order to take care of our own. Doesn't mean we can't do that for people of other "groups" , but honestly I think that's just part of how humans/society has taken shape.
Same race.. but there were only one Race shown .. I think i missed something.
Im really curious on how I would react. I listen to people on 7Cups all the time - but I usually never see them. I would consider myself as a very empathic person and treat everyone the same and with the same amount of respect.
I bet you anything you still have biases; maybe unconscious ones, and maybe not as big as some people's, but they're there - they don't need to be noticable to you, to be active and affect your actions/thoughts and cause (unintentional) harm to others (but still harm). The example of many white people feeling more damage when called out for racism, than they feel the damage from the racism has done, demonstrates that point (the concept of "white fragility", though fragility can apply to any category). They aren't actively racist so they believe they're good on that front, and therefore that anyone calling them out for racism, must be lying and attacking them, because they haven't been aware of the biases they still have that result in racist comments/choices/actions.
i think the older black woman is 100% right, when we see similarities with the person we're hearing we visualize a similar upbringing which helps us put ourselves in their shoes
this includes race, but for example, i probably would not simpathyze even with the white woman that much, because I've never been that close to any of my grandmas, and I'm not american, so hearing an american english also changes the story for me.
but that also doesnt mean that me not understanding these feelings for myself means that I'll dismiss them, empathizing is also about effort
I think it's super interesting to see the difference. We all have racial bias.
This is really interesting but I think there should've been a control group who didn't see the person's face at all to see what they would've done
Its called reason. We use the system of reason, or the ability to use common ground to solve for uncommon ground algebraically, to solve disagreements without the use of force. If we have no common ground with people, we are safer excommunicating them, and that's probably safer for both parties.
Awesome vid! First to like and comment!
Excie sorry
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Sorry... I don't usually do that.
Excie hahaha it’s ok😂
what the lockdown changed:
- behavior improves
- empathy declines
Can this be done with double blind study where the scientist and the subject only see the picture and story and not each other. So they don't know what ethnicity they are until all the results are in... just thinking out loud.
If I picked up a biography about someone's life then I would have totally wanted to listen to every small detail of that person's life because that's why I bought the book. But with a story like this that might spend too much time droning about small details, I would get bored very easily. No matter what type of storytelling it is, it should be long enough to get the point across and short enough to keep the listener's attention. The story teller should make the part about her grandmother passing have more detail; the funeral and the burial and how she felt. The small memories from her childhood should be mentioned but not dragged out.
Honestly though people might not have been as patient. I can tell you I have adhd and I would fast forward no matter what and I know it
Really early for some reason. 👌👌👂😋😜😜😜
FINALLYYYYYY
Bias isn't always a bad thing... its just what you do with it
hmm. u learn something new everyday
You can see them trying to justify the cognitive dissonance at the end. Which is fair anyone would and happens all the time with these experiments. That last girl was smart to sort of realise that though.
"You are not fair!"
"Fair enough..."
I WILL PUSH THE FAST FORWARD ON ANYONE AND EVERYONE
I not only loved the message but I loved that I was the girl in the picture
Which one?
Black girl in photo with curls. It should be the same pic as my profile pic lol
Of course I'm biased it was how I raised it doesn't stop me from trying to think of everyone being equal
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Now that I think about it, honestly this shits true, like imagine hearing an inspirational story from someone who looks similar to you. It'll make you think 'if they could, then I can too' (like if I saw a speech by a young colored girl). But if it's someone completely different (not tryna be racist or whatever) like a white man from a different country then I'd probably be less connected because we have so many differences in our lifestyles, experiences, and upbringings.
Everyone brought the skin tone topic back to the point of them imagining it as their family. It would be super interesting if they had also asked children who were raised by other races than their own. Maybe they wouldn't have an empathy gap?
Way too many confounding variables to draw anything conclusive from this form of study..
I agree
If you have enough people in the study and different pictures it would be enough to draw the conclusion that one person is less interested in hearing about all the details in the story if it has a different skin color. It would be reasonable to assume this is because of lesser empathy, especially since a lot of other studies have shown the same.
I'm interested to hear if you have any specific variables in mind?
My view from a previous comment:
the theory i understand and agree with in some sense, but the focus on "race"(as american calls it) i feel less credible. of course it can occur and I'm not against that notion but the way it does in america feels very different than from where I'm from. I think it's an aspect one should have in mind while making this study and i feel that a better representation of this theory should've involved nationality or western relatability instead, sens "race" seems more dependent on geographic and a clear divided "racial"-structure, like that in the US to "work".
For example I'm "mixed-race"(as you call it), my fathers Sudanese and my mother is Swedish, My skin color is somewhere in-between my parents, but as the Swedish "racial"-structure/framework is different from yours, I've never fully been seen as "black" nor "white" just another color on the spectrum in my home town. I've never felt as a part of any group based my color here in Sweden (though I've been denied for it), but i do identify as a swede. therefor my 'group' in this sens is my nationality(but even that can be one-sided based on appearance). But if i where born and raised in the US i'd be categorized as "black" right? and therefore, as Nationality is relevant to time, i feel this aspect of what you call "race" is relevant to not only time but place as well.
but even nationality feels a bit gray to me, remember fukushima? The western world grieved. if we apply this theory here, then "race" has no aspect and nither does nationality, instead it's the western way of life that is relatable and thus considered a 'group' in opposition to the floodings in Indonesia.
the way you present this theory is like saying that it WILL occur, when the reality is that it CAN occur based on the situation/time/place/people. It's not a law that's always in place, its based on what we can relate to on that exact time/place and so on. So in short i don't like your video because i feel that it has flaws.
furthermore, as seen in your comment, this video gives the view that skin color and empathy is related in ways they are not. it's not the skin color per say that makes the "empathy gap" imo but the relatability. and therefore the direct correlation between the two drops too many variables to draw anything conclusive. These 'groups' are relative and cant be based on just "race", nationality or religion as the video claims.
Nami chan, couldn't have said it better myself as a mixed-race third culture person.
I will add that this will differ from person to person regardless of race. I would listen to both not the full thing but most but my mom would not she hates mushy stuff.
It is still true people emphasized more with people that are part of their group
i feel like they should have had the same people listen to another story with a different race and see if they listen to it the same. Because i think they are doing the study base on a collective only. Yes some people skipped ,but would that same person skipped less and the skin color changed?
We are born narcissists, and we are born wary of the 'other'.
But those 2 biases are plenty to destroy any people, tribe, or tongue.
The hardest thing is for a woman to empathize with a man she does not know and find attractive
...ehhhhhh I think the study has several flaws from the explenation given there can be other variables such as one participant having a family history of cancer. Though for a pop psychology video I guess it's fine.
Is it common in english to say "different race" between black and white ? In french, it sounds quite racist so I would know if it's different in english. Thanks.
It sounds to me like a lot of the subjects had a family member with cancer, that's why they listened longer. Most of the time
I'd like to think I wouldn't fast-forward if I thought it was a black woman speaking. I just don't think I would disregard her like that.
I agree with most of the premise of the experiment and the goal behind it, but I would reconsider asking people to listen to the story as fast as possible, while also understanding it. By telling people (as the figure of authority in the experiment) you want them to get through the story faster, you are also encouraging them to fast forward, and that causes an additional element that needs to be accounted for. Additionally, the gap in empathy being shown here isn't merely grouping at hand, there are also greater political implications. For example, studies have shown that white people have less empathy for people of color, to a degree that *isn't* matched by people of color in relation to white people. In terms of this study, I noticed two of the white women look at the woman's picture and suddenly fast forward or look around in disinterest, what seemed to be almost immediately. There appears to be a greater bias in those women, something beyond subconscious grouping.
He probably would have been better if you had made sure that each participant was on equal footing. I either none of them had similar experience are all of them had similar experience.
Is that why I would probably skip most of these stories? I'm bi-racial, so I wouldn't relate to either groups. It would've been interesting if you had people of mixed race. I wonder what would happen. I mean, people like me could be the contrary and relate themselves to both groups instead. But then again, I guess that wouldn't make me that much of an empathetic person if I relate myself to neither nor that kind of situation, would it?
But who's Natasha!
Jokes aside... great video!
#Feels
Would've fast forwarded through that whole thing
I guess I’m grateful that I’m mixed, because I relate to both? Though I probably would’ve skipped through both cause I’m impatient. Lmao.
Black people in this video are being extremely honest. Like duh. It's make complete sense why you feel more empathetic to people who have "the same upbringing as you". Doesn't make you racist but it's like a knee-jerk reaction.
I would like to know about the empathy gap of male victims of violence.
I try not to be bias and be friends with everyone
But...it doesn't work mos tof the time
ok but I have ADHD, my concentration levels are totally disconnected from my empathy