ZOHD Talon 250g 🛩 ⚖️ Setup / Maiden / Review / Formation Flying with Talon Pro
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Quick walkthrough of my Talon 250 setup before heading out for the maiden flight. Included some nice footage of the 250 keeping up with it's big brother the Talon Pro for some formation! Mini review and a walkthrough of the issues I encountered. I'm really not interested in keeping it light weight so my AUW is 290g. Big thanks to Sam for the great footage from his Talon Pro (tiny.cc/Talon-Pro) using the Insta360 One R (tiny.cc/Insta360-OneR).
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========Talon 250 Setup========
AUW: 290g
In the Air:
-ZOHD Talon 250 PNP ► tiny.cc/ZOHD-Talon-250
-Matek F411 WSE Flight controller (Running iNav) ► tiny.cc/Matek-F411-WSE
-Rush Tank Ultimate Vtx ► tiny.cc/Rush-Tank-Ultimate
-Foxeer Lollipop 5.8 Antenna ► tiny.cc/Lollipop5g8
-TBS Crossfire Nano Rx ► tiny.cc/TBS-Crossfire-TX16s
-Runcam Hybrid FPV & HD Camera ► tiny.cc/RunCam-Hybrid
-Sandisk 64gb V30 Micro SD for HD recording ► UK Link: tiny.cc/SanDiskV30UK - USA Link: tiny.cc/SanDiskV30USA
-Tiny GPS Rx ► tiny.cc/220GPS
-ZOP Power 1,500 3S ► tiny.cc/ZOP15003S
On me:
-Skyzone OLED FPV Goggles ► tiny.cc/Skyzone03O
-Goggle module bay ► tiny.cc/Skyzone-Module-Bay
-RapidFire Receiver module ► tiny.cc/IRC-RapidFire
-Lumenier AXII 2 5.8 antenna ► tiny.cc/Lumenier-AXII-2
-VAS 5.8g Pepperbox ► tiny.cc/VAS5g8Pepperbox
-TX16s Transmitter ► tiny.cc/Radiomaster-TX16s
-Crossfire Micro Tx V2 ► tiny.cc/TBS-Crossfire-TX16s
========3D Printing Equipment========
-3D Printer ► tiny.cc/qql96y
-PLA filament ► tiny.cc/EryonePLA
-TPU filament ► tiny.cc/SainsmartTPU
-PETG filament ► tiny.cc/SainsmartPETG
-Digital Calliper ► tiny.cc/DigitalCalliper
========Build equipment========
-E6000 glue ► tiny.cc/E6000Glue
-Laminating Iron ► tiny.cc/LaminatingIron
-Laminate ► tiny.cc/laminate
-Hot glue gun ► tiny.cc/HotGlueGun
-Foam Cutting Tool ► tiny.cc/vxgv0y
-Heat Gun ► tiny.cc/AdjustableHeatGun2000w
-Watt Meter ► tiny.cc/WattMeter
-3M90 spray adhesive ► tiny.cc/3M90adhesive
========Other Video Equipment========
-Macbook Pro ► 🇺🇸 tiny.cc/MacbookPro-USA 🇬🇧 tiny.cc/MacbookPro-UK
-External Hard to Store Final Cut Pro X projects ► 🇺🇸 tiny.cc/Seagate2TB-USA 🇬🇧 tiny.cc/Seagate2TB-UK
-Computer Mic ► 🇺🇸 tiny.cc/AU-GM30-Mic-USA
-DSLR ► 🇺🇸 tiny.cc/CanonDSLR-USA 🇬🇧 tiny.cc/CanonDSLR-UK
-Camera Lens ► 🇺🇸 tiny.cc/Canon50mmLens-USA 🇬🇧 tiny.cc/Canon50mmLens-UK
-Handheld Gimbal for DJI Osmo or GoPro ► tiny.cc/Handheld-Gimbal - Zábava
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This is the Talon 250: tiny.cc/ZOHD-Talon-250 Use CODE 'BG903f6f' for 17% off 🤑 Full kit list with links are in the video description! Thanks for watching and please remember to hit like or dislike before you leave 🙌🏻
4:55 "Once you reach an altitude of around 120m, like I am here..."
Ohhhh I see what you did there :D
😁 that wide angle lens makes it look higher right!? 🤪 how’re you getting on with your Talon? I’ll be interested to see if the cap helps with the current sensing like you said. Cheers
@@AdamGdoesFPV My Talon 250Gs has a lot of flights already. Did not fine tune the current sensor yet but it is pretty stable. I will go fly again tomorrow.
I'm waiting for a friend to upload hischase footage of the last flight day then I will upload a new video.
As always such a great video
Thanks again! 😃👍🏻
Hello from southern California Adam. Not gonna lie.....at 3:08 in I seriously thought you were gonna shoot that tiny lower gap in the trees and my heart stopped very briefly! LOL but seriously it did! Love the vid Adam and I very much enjoy every in-depth build vid you make brother! Very entertaining and efficient. Plus a very nice flying site for the eyes.
Thank you for the great feedback 😁👍🏻 and yea that gap is really tempting me and I will go through it soon, just not on a maiden 😅😅 I might try it with the mini Talon tonight 👌🏻cheers
Great overview of the little un.....It's a calm day machine for sure...🤔🤔😎🇬🇧
Cheers mate. I'm sure it would be ok in a bit of wind but I just wouldn't enjoy it
Your videos are very informative! Thank you!
Thanks for the feedback 🙌🏻
Everytime I eat h your videos I think about how lucky you are to have such a great flying spot. Don't take it for granted! I'm super jealous.
Cheers David. Sadly the farmer decided to remove my permission to fly there recently, so expect a lot of videos from the mountains from now on 😁 Cheers
@@AdamGdoesFPV Oof. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you find another spot just as good as that soon.
Great review. Amazed at the flight envelope speed range ... from ~32 kph to 100+ kph on 3s!
Exceptional editing. Love the chase footage and how much good info you crammed in under 9:40 run time.
Greet out-take with the sheep. Must be a TBS fan.
Yeah it's surprisingly good. I'll admit i'm not normally a fan of small planes below 1m wingspan but this has been the best so far! Thanks for the great feedback, I do try to get a lot into a small timeframe to keep it interesting to all. Haha yeah that sheep was brave, wouldn't leave us alone! He must have spotted the TBS antenna 😄Cheers 😁
Great video Adam, i thought about getting one and loading it up with li-ions ( like i did with my dart 250g on 4s) as a little mid range fpv platform. However it does look like it gets knocked about by the turbulence in your video, more so than a dart imo ?
Cheers mate. It gets knocked about in the turbulent wind when flying along the top of that hill for sure. If anything though I’d say it’s more stable than the Dart 250. Like I said, I wouldn’t enjoy flying it on windy days, but I’d say this has been my favourite small plane so far.
Great flights! Just finished mine. Did you have any up elevator trim before first launch? Are you using your inav launch settings from your previous videos?
Thanks 👍🏻 for the manual launch I had a little up trim on elevator but it wasn't really needed. Launch settings are:
set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 150
set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 180
set nav_fw_launch_thr = 1750
set nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1500
set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 0
set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 10000
set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 13
Nice bit of sheep worrying there 😂
The sheep are well used to it here, a Talon 250g is tiny compared to what they normally see 😆
Nice video :-)
I read a few reviews, many of them mentioned this is tail heavy, if go by the CG provided.
Would you please share, are you using the official CG point, or any advice for a better takeoff experience?
Thanks in advanced
Thanks 😊I used standard CG markers, with the nose tipping slightly down, seemed good to me. Cheers
Does a twin motor plane wobble less than a single motor plane? Can a flight controller use differential thrust to reduce wobble? Thanks so much for this video, great job!
Hi, thank, glad you liked it 😊 I don’t think using differential thrust would reduce wobble, but to be honest most planes with a tail don’t wobble anyway, unless they are really small and therefore less stable. Yaw wobble is more common in traditional style wings. Cheers
You the best.
Thanks 😁👍🏻
Fantastic flight Adam! I've asked you this before but I do not remember what you said. How do you operate your "Auto Trim"? Do you flip a switch to activate it or what? I am still learning the details of that type of mode. Thanks again! Happy flying!
Thanks 😃
Autotrim is activated exactly the same as a flight mode, but you enable it at the same time as flying in 'Acro' flight mode. It checks average servo positions for 2 seconds and sets new mid points to achieve straight flight. Land and disarm before turning Autotrim off and then new positions are saved. This is all changing in iNav 3.0 though!
@@AdamGdoesFPV Yea I just started looking into the changes 3.0 made so I will have to read into it and make sure I do it right.😅
In your opinion which one in this small category (450-650mm wingspan) is resisting wind the best and most stable? (considering using 2S1P or heavier 2S2P cruiser pack)
If the ones I’ve flown, probably this one. I still don’t fly planes this small very often as it’s only fun in very low wind. And even then I’d just prefer a larger heavier plane unless the situation calls for something small. Good luck 😃
I bought the PNP version of this and I'm thinking to put just a regular receiver in it. Do you think it would be too sketchy without a flight controller for fpv.
As long as you don't go far and your comfortable in navigating your surroundings it will be fine without an FC 👍🏻
looks good but how did you mount the camera without cutting nose apart? thanks
The nose has a hole in the front for a camera. Although it needed a little cutting due to the double les on this FPV cam. Just pushed the camera in place form the inside and added a drop of glue to keep it there.
@Adam G does FPV yes thanks. I got given plane from friends and he gad a 3D printed reinforcement cage around battery compartment blocking off front camera spot. I then realized it was not stock.
So when you connect the esc to the flight controller do you just not solder the 5v wire for the throttle to anything
Just don't solder the red pin onto the FC. The red wire is not to be connected to anything. Remember that the ESC is designed for old school setup where it provides the 5v power to the rx and servos. You do not want the ESC supplying power to an FC as the FC get's it direct from the battery
@@AdamGdoesFPV I love you
no wonder why in my area they prefered quad than wings fpv, it feel shaky 😅
It's so small and light you have to expect it to be shaky in wind.
Great video, been waiting for this. Why is this little Talon so hard to launch? iv been hearing some bad reports about it on take off? Also, how did you find that runcam hybrid? would you recommend it? cheers
It's really easy to launch... I had no issues in full manual or autolaunch so I'm not sure why some people had issues 🤷🏻♂️The Hybrid was a lot better on the FPV side than I thought it would be actually! For HD recording it was ok but I think I need to switch it to 4K to get a clearer image, in this video it was recording in 1080/60. I'd recommend it for planes like this for sure, but on larger planes I still prefer dedicated FPV cam and separate HD cam. Cheers
@@AdamGdoesFPV Ok thanks. And yes I totally agree on bigger planes. But for smaller stuff I'm guessing it would be fine. Keep up the good work brother..👍🏽
Thanks Adam for this great informative video! When I have finished my Diatone 690mm Ripper FPW Wing Project I will buy and build the Talon 250 based on your video.
What do you mean how much flight time is possible with it?
7 ah at full throttle certainly allows you to use a Li-ion battery?
Maybe a 3S1P 18650 11.1V 3500mAh Li-ion?
Best regards!
Joschi aka 1ronm4n
Glad to hear it 😁 I think on my setup flight time could be 30-45mins maybe if I tried to be efficient. With a Li-ion I’m sure it could fly for an hour. Best thing to do is weigh your battery and compare it to the weight of my lipo (not sure in the weight of it but there’s a link in the desc. Where you can find that info). Good luck and enjoy 😊
@@AdamGdoesFPV thanks !
What 360 cam is on the big wing?
InstaOneR. Everything you need to know is in the video description where there is even a link to that 360cam 👍🏻 cheers
I'm curious what control gains you used for this.
Sorry no idea, I don't own this model anymore.
Hi Adam, been following your videos for ages and wanted to ask for advice. Having experience with model flying I'm now super interested in getting into fpv but I'm a bit intimidated by getting started. Would it be OK to chat more to learn from you? Josh
Hi Josh, best thing to do is ask question in Facebook groups or RCGroups as you will get quicker and more detailed answers... but you are always welcome to post a question on one of my vids and I'll get back to you if i can help. Cheers :)
Adam, will it carry 3s1p 18650?
Hi Chris, sorry can't remember now, no longer have this one
I want one.
It is fun! 😁
that wing area is quite large for 250 grams, maybe thats why its affected by wind so much.
or am I wrong? im planning on building a foam plane myself with about that wing area, with a calculated weight of 600grams.
I’m not sure that the wing area would be considered too big. It’s just a light model and if there is gusty wind it will be impacted by it no matter the design. Good luck with your build though 👍🏻
How far do you think this could go?
depends which battery you use. I was using a lipo which isn't the best for long range in a small plane but it gives a lot of punch and makes it fun to fly
çok şanslısın benim ülkemde çok pahalı bir hobi fpv telemetri için bir ay çalışmak zorundayım.
That’s a shame. Can you not order cheap items from Banggood?
How would you compare this to the ZOHD Drift ?
Sorry I can’t compare as I don’t have a drift. However I’d guess the drift flies a lot slower and more like a floaty glider.
@@AdamGdoesFPV Thanks !
cameras may get broken at landong
It’d have to be more of a crash than a landing to damage it
I want to pet that sheep
😆😆 he was a pain!