Heartstopper 2x4 Reaction! - "Challenge"
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- Reacting to season 2 episode 4 of Heartstopper! Our favorite boys are back!
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There were actually hints of Charlie’s eating disorder sprinkled throughout season 1 too. Letting his cereal go soggy without eating it, refusing popcorn at the cinema, refusing pizza from Tori, being MIA at multiple lunchtimes (not eating with Nick OR Tao and Isaac), opening and closing his lunchbox without eating anything while hiding out in the art room… You wouldn’t notice them you weren’t looking for red flags though, which is pretty accurate to how EDs can fly under the radar irl. I think seeing Charlie at three meals a day in Paris makes the problem more obvious to Nick, and harder for Charlie to keep hiding.
Without spoiling too much, the underlying roots of Charlie’s illness are a little different from the more common and stereotypical portrayals of EDs in media. You’ll get some hints at that in the next episode, and the show will definitely dig deeper into it in season 3! As you say, EDs are quite serious and not something that can be quickly resolved for Charlie without professional help.
I love how, when Imogen asks for a hug, Nick looks at Charlie who gives him this little nod like; "Go on." Like, given Nick almost went on a date with her at one point, it's so nice of him to make sure Charlie is OK with it - and then pull Charlie into a group hug. Nick is just so considerate of both Charlie and Imogen here.😊😊
Definitely! And that Nick Nelson hug looked medicinal. I’m glad Charlie joined - that mirror shot of the three of them purging the stinky Ben energy with a beautiful group hug is one of my favorite visuals from Season 2.
Imogen being the one to call Ben out in public, I smiled when she did it. but when he called her a bitch, I wanted to punch him in the eye. Twice.
Fun fact about Ben talking to Charlie in the restaurant......that's the first time Ben has EVER acknowledged Charlie's existence, even though they had been making out for months before Charlie dumped him. I think he's trying a "charm" offensive to get back in Charlie's good graces. I think he's also taking advantage of Charlie's "let's not draw attention to you by sitting separately" approach to sit next to him. It's clear that Ben was using Imogen, both for cover for his queerness, but more so to get under Nick's skin and piss him off.
Yeah, it’s so skeezy that he says, “I haven’t talked to you properly in ages” after forcefully denying having ever spoken to Charlie at every previous opportunity when other people were around. Poor Charlie - he looks like he wishes his food would swallow HIM up and make the whole mess disappear.
I know it would NEVER have happened in any universe because it's just not Charlie's style, but I would have cackled if Charlie had responded with "Why are you talking to me? I don't even know who you are." 😂
@@EmonEconomist OMG that would have been ICONIC!
@@elisabethbauman6190 and we know he never talked to Charlie at all. He cut him off mid-sentence in S1E1 to kiss him.
How quickly we forget about Sahar Enterprises, Executive Producer of the Year 11 Prom. 😭
Really cool of you that you are taking the sensitive subject matter seriously and want to do research! I also watched some interesting documentaries about men with eating disorders after reading the comics. I think this show is doing something pretty special with how that is represented.
I may be overthinking this, but, i kinda felt that Imogen's public break up was the safest thing she could have done. Charlie tried to do it quietly, privately and Ben forced himself on him... abusers instinctively know, not in view not in public and i kind of felt that Imogen sensed this. Dumping him loudly, in public, Ben's behaviour was immediatly called out by garbage king harry (of all people!) So proud of that girl for this, and Narlie being there to support her.
Love your videos! The art teacher is called Mr Ajayi and he always wears a rainbow pin to show he is a safe space for queer people!
Once you know about Charlie's eating issues, you can notice the signs in S1... I think even S1E1.
FYI you don't drive to France through the tunnel joining the UK to mainland Europe, you drive your bus, truck or car onto a train at the coast that takes you through the tunnel under the English Channel, takes about an hour. There are also passenger only trains direct from London to Paris and other European destinations. 🙂
Imogen Tech. going off at the table! 😅
I'm glad to see Imogen Technology's stock is going up.
15:12 Escargot is all about the butter and garlic. It's just a way to eat a ton of butter and garlic.
And much classier than doing shots of garlic butter
Assuming the point of departure is Slough, where the show is shot, the trio thru the Chunnel &, onto Paris is just under 8 hours.
There were hints to what’s going on with Charlie all the way back to season one. They’ve done a great job foreshadowing it. Love your reaction videos! 👍🏽
Enjoyed watching your reaction to the episode. Very perceptive
When I was in London, we took the train from London to Paris through the Chunnel, and I think it was about 3 1/2 hours. That was about 15 years ago.
5:05 I looked it up when I first watched this. I don't know where they are but it's about 6-ish hours from London to Paris.
It’s set in Kent, in a fictional town based on Rochester, where Alice Oseman is from.
You got hints of it in the first season. It was just so subtle you weren't supposed to pick up on it.
The girl that is sharing a room with Tara Darcy and Elle (the girl in yellow) name is Sahar she’s a school friend of Tara, Darcy and Elle. She’s actually good friends with the whole friend group now
I found she didn’t add anything to the book and she certainly doesn’t add anything to the show either.
@@discogareth I think she literally was added because hotel rooms had four people in them so there had to just be someone lol
@@discogarethshe'll add more later, like how Isaac didn't do much in the first season, and Naomi and Felix will be more a part of the story later as well. It's realistic that there would be friends who would be more new to a group in high school and there but less involved. Doesn't make her pointless.
Yeah, for now she’s the principal prom planner, a member of a rock band, a female bisexual who adds representation, and a longtime friend of Imogen who gives her some depth and backstory as well as serving as a catalyst for her growth trajectory. She’s got more facets than the rugby boys and has a role in Volume 5 that expands her relationship with both Nick and Charlie separately. It’s ok to not love her character, but she definitely has purpose.
@@elisabethbauman6190 maybe my mind will be changed when Volume 5 is released later in the year.
awesome insight and commentary, and killer jokes. 😂
Enjoyed your reactions to this episode especially when Imogen blasted Ben. Thanks.
brother, Sahar (person in orange) has been around since the beginning of the season. she’s a new friend of the girls and is leading the prom planning committee. she’s amazing! now that’s out of the way, I don’t think there was a right or wrong in the Elle and Tao date situation; they just weren’t on the same page and now they are. a big theme of this show is open and honest communication and they just weren’t communicating so the wires got crossed but now, their wires are connected correctly.
anyway, Imogen technologies was the highlight of this episode for me. her stock price is at an all-time high and I don’t expect it to dip anytime soon. thanks for another fantastic reaction Derek 🩷💜💙
Imogen Technologies stock price just shot up.
Unfortunately eating disorders are incredibly common in the gay male community. This is an increasingly horrible thing and unfortunately I can personally say that I have now I'm quite a few people with eating disorders. Eating disorders I are somme of the most deadly mental illnessesand are becoming more common most commomly seen in wommen and girls.
It’s so important that this show is portraying how to talk about them for exactly those reasons!
I really appreciate your willingness to learn more about ED's before talking too much about it. They are very serious and conversations like this can be very triggering for people.
Its often assumed that ed's are about weightloss and looks but while body dismorphia (an inability to accurately perceive ones own body) is a big part of it, its not about aesthetics. Anorexia, orthorexia etc are closely linked to anxiety disorders/ obsessive compulsive disorder, and are often more about being in control. The need to restrict is a compulsion even when the sufferer wants to recover and be healthy
Thank you, Derek! 💞 #SleepyWaffles #EurosLyn #Heartstopper
I love your reactions so much! They make me really happy 💛 thanks for the reactions
They don't eat meat balls lol. They eat boeuf bourguignon which is a stew made of pieces of beef, vegetables in a red wine sauce 😊
Love your reactions as always - and how perceptive you are at picking up hints in the show.
Harry confuses me too! The f-slur is fine but bitch is too far??
Remember, Imogen is apart of his friend group, Charlie is not so the slight against a friend was probably a step too far in his mind.
Harry was being extra vicious to Charlie because he was jealous of him taking Nick out of their friend group, whereas Imogen is a close friend of his. Still doesn't make sense and still totally unacceptable... But I think that's why.
For sure. Harry has one set of standards for his friends and a completely different set for everyone else.
He’s evolving though
@@danieloneal7137 this was before Isaac had the chat with him
I loved ur reaction. The way they handled Charlie's ed was so beatifully done and so well handeld during the first and seccond season
Good for Imogen and wait, harry don't like the word b***h but a pathetic little f** is okay? I'll see 😅 no way and every time Charlie sees Ben its just a big triggering for him, poor Charlie and Nick lost the challenge 😅 and Sahar is a part of the comics she is at book 3 a part of the group 😉
Harry is friends with Imogen (or she is in his friend group at least) and not with Charlie. Like, I'm sure this is an in group/out group thing. Plus, it seems Harry is doing a little growing up this season, maybe.
Imogen technologies
Despite the demurrers, Imogen did out Ben. Afterwards, she realized she shouldn't have done that, but you do things you later regret when you're angry. Being said to be "obsessed" with a known gay boy coupled with being accused of totally ignoring your supposed girlfriend can only mean one thing: I'm telling everyone you're gay. Honestly, imagine yourself at that table and watching Charlie and Ben's reactions while that little drama played-out. You'd have to be incredibly naive not to realise what Imogen was saying. It's clear Imogen also knew/strongly suspected it because of Ben's stare on the bus and general non-interest in her while in Paris. Nick may even have set the stage for her when he tried to warn her off Ben earlier. Here we have a known gay/bi person telling Imogen she shouldn't be going out with Ben because of something he can't really tell you about. Ben only made a grab for her when he saw Nick, and that annoyed her. Clearly, Ben was using Imogen to get back at Nick. If you're Imogen, you might ask yourself why is that? Could it be because of Charlie? Imogen even intimated she knew Ben and Charlie were an item right before she, Nick and Charlie had their group hug. Although I don't blame Charlie or Nick for going after Imogen subsequent to the blow-up, it did sort of underscore what Imogen said. Also, if anyone was watching, Nick gave himself away with his body language when Ben sat next to Charlie etc. Clearly at least some of the group understood the import of what Imogen said because when they were playing that ancient but dangerous game of "truth or dare," someone commanded Ben to kiss Charlie. They were cycling through all the known gay boys. Being outed is at least partly to blame, I suspect, for Ben subsequently changing schools.
"song in French, there's a song in French..." you're funny :)
Apropos of nothing, I love your Nintendo don't Minnesota cap and now I need to know if they exist for all States. Although I think Rhode Island might not look as cool. I think the N's kind of get the idea across better.
Also, cool if you to think about researching eating disorders before talking more but your simple advice was very safe and accurate. Severe forms of anorexia can cause permanent organ damage/failure.
Poor Sahar!
oh waoh you abt the teachers !!! haha and abt Imogen ?!! priceless !!!!
Nick is bisexual and bilingual
Body dysmorphia is the more widely understood reason for eating disorders, but they can also stem from stress and how that affects you physically. If you’re upset, often, you probably lose your appetite. Sadly, eating disorders are pervasive within the gay community with numerous media and ads usually depicting thin-muscular as “ideals.” Normal-overweight being less desirable or fetishes. It is a dog-eat-dog world for everyone lol. Looking back on season 1, Charlie is rarely, if at all, shown eating. At the movie theater, he opts out of eating popcorn.
The girl in orange was introduced like two or three episodes ago.
To be fair, I’m certain that Sahar was introduced in the comics solely because they needed a 4th girl to room with Tara, Darcy, and Elle. (Imogen was only invented later for the tv show.) Sahar never gets her own storyline at all in the books.
Okay but your accents are pretty good!
That looks like a bong on your pillow 🤨...
No it doesn't. Like not even a little bit
"Since when are you a character in this show?"
Since the first episode of the season, its really not that hard to remember
Have you ever heard of a joke before?
@SleepyWaffles I have, I hear they're supposed to be funny
Evidently you haven't. I was literally making a joke about how they were trying to pretend this girl has always been part of the group
@SleepyWaffles aah, okay! Maybe I didn't get it because I honestly didn't see it that way, but cool
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It’s funny to me when you are reacting to this show and anything even remotely “PG-13”sexual happens, you are like “these are children” but you literally watch Sex Education were like rated R sexual things happen constantly and you never bring up that they are children when they are high school age just like the kids in this show.
It's a consequence of the contextual universe of the respective series. "Heartstopper" takes place in a kinder, gentler more innocent universe than "Sex Education." You want the characters to behave according to the norms of their respective universes.
Sahar is briefly in the comics. This might be controversial but, TBH, I found her a kind of pointless addition to the friend group.
All her lines could have easily been delivered by Darcy. I think it may have been a diversity add (speaking as a diverse person). I liked this season but I think they threw too many new characters in for 8 short episodes. The art school friends, Nick's brother, Mr.Farouk,
and James all good adds. Sahar was pointless and the actress isn't that good.
Relax
Imogen effectively outed Ben and that wasn’t cool. She could have dumped him without bringing up his obsession with Charlie.
She didn't out him. She doesn't even officially know about him, she just had suspicions... And she made an observation about one way he was being shitty. If he didn't want to be called out for being a creepy obsessed stalker, he shouldn't have been one. 🤷♀️ Not her fault.
People can be obsessed for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with sexual/romantic attraction, he was constantly staring at him and ignoring her, that’s fair to bring up
She also wasn’t really thinking clearly as she was working through her speech. She is reacting emotionally and gets a bit out of control, which she admits in the bathroom. I agree that she didn’t actually out him and that there are different ways to be obsessed with people than just sexually, but her very public speech definitely planted the seed that grew fruit during Truth or Dare. The fact that the kid dared Charlie to kiss Ben was a direct result of that drama.
Harry is like:
Being a homophobic? Not a problem. But sexism is where I draw a line.
Man's gotta draw the line somewhere haha