@@MILSPEC_MEXICANis NM a Democrat bleeding heart state? That would explain the masks still. Seriously after almost 4 years and everything we know you’re still falling for this?
They violated their own policies. IF the caddy driver had insurance, then they would likely sue the insurance. The truck passanger(s) incurred significant medical costs and long-term damages with need for long term follow up care and resulting costs... all for something that was 100 percent out of their control. If the police did not violate their own policies then there would be no lawyer willing to take the case. That's why it's always a good idea to have more than liability-only insurance, just in casies
@@YELLTELLyou actually don't sue the criminal, just their insurance, which I am guessing they did not have. Also, they violated their own policies. Why does everyone keep missing that?
Now I have no sympathy for the people who got hit...only the dog. Suing the NMSP is a bullshit move and frivolous. The person at fault is the loser driving the fleeing car.
The police are supposed to be concerned with public safety. It is part of their job. They made the public less safe in this instance. One could argue that it was worth it to get these guys arrested. One could also argue that the cops put the public in undue risk. The courts will figure it out.
And here is the problem. 100% of the liability in situations like this MUST be on the criminal, the person who broke the law is the one who caused this and THAT person is responsible for everything that happens after they decided to put everyone at risk. But greed prevails, because that individual doesn't have any money and probably didn't have any insurance, so the person rolls the lottery dice and sues the police. And the taxpayers are on the hook for the defense and the judgement, should it go against the department. What needs to happen is there has to be laws to help at least curb frivolous lawsuits by making the loser pay. So if someone files a b.s. suit, they at least are on the hook for the legal and court fees and also then can be sued by the municipality for the cost of defending their suit. Unless this happens, this won't ever stop.
@@bradhuff256 To me that is a separate issue but I do take your point. The problem with that policy is that it's a classic example of making a bad situation worse. By demonstrating to the criminals what they have to do so the chase stops, it will only create more dangerous situations where the criminals flee. And half the time the criminal is too stupid to even realize that the chase was discontinued, so they keep right on driving like an idiot and cause collisions.
NM Bodycam: There is a lot of confusion/comments regarding policies in pursuit cases (ie: when to continue chase, when allowed to pit, etc). This fact is made more confusing when comparing standards and protocols between different agencies. This chase footage seems to be primarily from APD and not necessarily NMSP. Unless NM state police are now patrolling the streets of Albuq. I wonder why the case was brought against them instead of the local PD. Some clarification would be nice.
This was during a time when state police "surged" in Albuquerque in a effort to reduce violent crime, drugs and gangs. It was originally supposed to be for like 6 weeks, but turned out to be like 4 months. State police couldn't keep those officers in Albuquerque and leaving their home districts short staffed, so the program ended. As far as pursuits and PIT policies in and around Albuquerque, there are multiple policies for due to there being multiple agencies, sometimes with overlapping jurisdiction such as APD, State, Sheriff's and possibility a Tribal Police agency as well. At some point, the University Police may enter the picture. All have their own policies.
@bradhuff256 With all your alphabet soup, you said absolutely nothing to contradict my response to the initial question. My response was regarding policies. I can quote you title, short title, section, subsections, and case law on the ACT. That wasn't the question. Policies are made within statutes and vary among agencies. Your opinions on police in NM are meaningless to me, as I'm sure my opinions would be to you.
Another fine example of a plea deal making district attorney and a weak justice system letting these criminals back out on the street to commit more felonies.
Prisons in the United States are filled beyond capacity already, at 120%. More than any other western country yet we have the highest violent crime rate. Where exactly do your expect the legal system to store all these criminals? And NM has a limited budget compared to richer, bigger states. Would you rather spend it incarcerating these guys... or spend it on crumbling infrastructure, social services, schools and public libraries, disaster relief, childhood food insecurity, potable water, and other support for those who aren't criminals and are struggling? Choices have to be made, and no choice is going to be perfect. I don't like the criminal system's revolving door either, I've been a victim of punks too, but it's naive to just complain but offer no realistic, viable solutions. So I ask you again: where would you like them all to be warehoused: just stacked up like cordwood in your grandma's cellar? Toss them into the Black Hole of Calcutta? Return to just hanging people for any infraction with no trial? Ship them all to Florida, the way they kidnaped and shipped 50 legally documented immigrants to Martha's Vineyard (which cost about $600,000 to do, not including all the aftercare they needed once they arrived). And where would you (obviously an expert), draw the line on who gets locked up and who doesn't? I don't trust our bozo politicians, they aren't sending our best or our brightest to Congress any more. Who would you trust? Or would you prefer anarchy, because just locking everyone up is one step further down that road, to the collapse of democracy. Sheesh!
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The article said officers did not record. What are we watching then? I pray the department prevails. The obvious question? Do they same people that were in an ACCIDENT want police to not follow criminals that did something to them? Sick of go away money. Perhaps departments need to pay for damages in these cases. Do they?
So the police show up and help you because you are injured YET you decide to sue them instead of the idiot who crashed into you!?! A true POS move. Not as bad as the criminal´s conduct, but still a POS to sue the police. Also, try wearing a seatbelt.
The original officers dashcam is not shown. I didn’t receive it in the files I received from the records department. The officers footage you see is another officer who spotted the vehicle after it fled into ABQ
Even when someone pleads guilty, there should not be a plea agreement. Courts need to stop playing politics and get down to dealing with justice and grace. Too many who enter this country illegally have not cultivated an upstanding lifestyle, but rather one of violence, crime and lawlessness. They do not respect out laws or values. This guy began doing the George Floyd nonsense by saying he couldn't breath when it was obvious he could. I say... send them back to their point of origin and not allow them to stay here or return.
If there were no plea bargains, a lot more cases would get taken to trial--after all, if there were no value in pleading guilty, why not roll the dice on a favorable jury? And the court system would not be able to handle that. In practice, that would mean there would only be enough resources to prosecute extremely serious cases.
It's funny how the agency with lawsuit-avoidance pursuit policies that sacrifice public safety to protect the department from a lawsuit caught a lawsuit anyway, arguably as a direct result of those lawsuit-avoidance policies. There was a PIT attempt as the second trooper picked up the pursuit, which is already a rarity from NMSP, but due to their "the more lives you endanger the less we do to stop you" mindset, the trooper has a maximum PIT speed of 35 mph, it looks like he swept over for the PIT when he hit 35, and inevitably missed since the suspect was still accelerating past that. The trooper never got a second chance for a PIT before the crash happened because of that PIT speed limit. Every law enforcement officer takes an oath to protect the public with their lives, but some departments scoff in the face of that oath. NMSP deserves the lawsuit, and hopefully they learn that the best way to avoid a lawsuit is simple: Let troopers do their job, the one they signed up for, the one they swore an oath for. Let troopers actually, actively protect, rather than thinking the role of police is to escort reckless drivers to a crash scene.
@@travisl1331 I mean tbf it's also the regular everyday people of New Mexico that lose out when NMSP wants to play cat and mouse with the cat in a muzzle. That's kinda the whole reason NMSP should get its shit together, and it's just the unfortunate reality that it takes at least one lawsuit to encourage a government agency to fix problems.
@@laserjet37main49 You keep blaming NMSP but if you look most of the agencies in NM have no pursuit policies.They do it because of what happened in the video.
The police are deliberately placed in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation by the powers that be, just like school teachers. If they do their jobs and somebody gets hurt, it's because the pursuit policy is reckless; if they follow a weak policy and somebody gets hurt, they 'failed to protect the community'.
State Police needs to start doing PITs on these fleeing idiots to prevent this from happening Arkansas State Police don’t have a issue Pitting their fleeing vehicles this accident could’ve been avoided if that one Officer could’ve Pitted him before going over the bridge he was right on that Cadillac
Look at the devastation he caused. And he FLED. It's heartbreaking to watch these people suffering and fearful and injured, knowing he just ran from it all. May God hold him accountable and send His angels to watch over and help heal all who were harmed. In Jesus name😔🙏🏻
21.8% of drivers in New Mexico are uninsured, or under insured. I'd bet serious money, he wasn't insured. As a very poor state/lack state, insurance isn't a priority here. My insurance went up $50 because of the amount of of claims filed in New Mexico last year. As an insured driver, I pay more because of it.
QUIT dropping charges this is why crime continues
That’s New Mexico for you
@@MILSPEC_MEXICAN It's all over, not just New Mexico.
@@MILSPEC_MEXICANis NM a Democrat bleeding heart state? That would explain the masks still. Seriously after almost 4 years and everything we know you’re still falling for this?
They should be suing the guy in the Cadillac... but there's no money in that!
There actually IS money in that - but I bet he had no insurance
@@scho553duh so no money
Yeah, that was what I was saying.
Any Raiders gear automatically raises your wanted level to 5 stars!
Drops your IQ to zero
Why sue the police? Sue the dipshits that chose to run instead of manning up and pulling over.
THE POLICE HAVE MONEY! CRIMINALS DO NOT!!!!!!!!
ECONOMICS 101
@@YELLTELL give them 20 years hard labour. Make them earn the 💰 🤷♂️
They violated their own policies. IF the caddy driver had insurance, then they would likely sue the insurance. The truck passanger(s) incurred significant medical costs and long-term damages with need for long term follow up care and resulting costs... all for something that was 100 percent out of their control. If the police did not violate their own policies then there would be no lawyer willing to take the case. That's why it's always a good idea to have more than liability-only insurance, just in casies
@@YELLTELLyou actually don't sue the criminal, just their insurance, which I am guessing they did not have. Also, they violated their own policies. Why does everyone keep missing that?
@@scho553 CRIMINALS USUALY DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The people suing are in a shit box truck, they are treating this like a payday.
If he really was worried about his asthma he wouldn't have run.
Bro this channel is sick ! Surprised there isn’t a million subs
I love all these comment lawyers 😂😂
Now I have no sympathy for the people who got hit...only the dog. Suing the NMSP is a bullshit move and frivolous. The person at fault is the loser driving the fleeing car.
This comment is why I have no sympathy for QTarded MAGAts. 🤷
@@nonsuch What a bizarre assumption.
The police are supposed to be concerned with public safety. It is part of their job. They made the public less safe in this instance. One could argue that it was worth it to get these guys arrested. One could also argue that the cops put the public in undue risk.
The courts will figure it out.
And here is the problem. 100% of the liability in situations like this MUST be on the criminal, the person who broke the law is the one who caused this and THAT person is responsible for everything that happens after they decided to put everyone at risk. But greed prevails, because that individual doesn't have any money and probably didn't have any insurance, so the person rolls the lottery dice and sues the police. And the taxpayers are on the hook for the defense and the judgement, should it go against the department. What needs to happen is there has to be laws to help at least curb frivolous lawsuits by making the loser pay. So if someone files a b.s. suit, they at least are on the hook for the legal and court fees and also then can be sued by the municipality for the cost of defending their suit. Unless this happens, this won't ever stop.
@@bradhuff256 To me that is a separate issue but I do take your point. The problem with that policy is that it's a classic example of making a bad situation worse. By demonstrating to the criminals what they have to do so the chase stops, it will only create more dangerous situations where the criminals flee. And half the time the criminal is too stupid to even realize that the chase was discontinued, so they keep right on driving like an idiot and cause collisions.
Down on Central is a rough part of Albuquerque. It is a wonder no one was killed by this perp.
NM Bodycam: There is a lot of confusion/comments regarding policies in pursuit cases (ie: when to continue chase, when allowed to pit, etc). This fact is made more confusing when comparing standards and protocols between different agencies. This chase footage seems to be primarily from APD and not necessarily NMSP. Unless NM state police are now patrolling the streets of Albuq. I wonder why the case was brought against them instead of the local PD. Some clarification would be nice.
This was during a time when state police "surged" in Albuquerque in a effort to reduce violent crime, drugs and gangs. It was originally supposed to be for like 6 weeks, but turned out to be like 4 months. State police couldn't keep those officers in Albuquerque and leaving their home districts short staffed, so the program ended. As far as pursuits and PIT policies in and around Albuquerque, there are multiple policies for due to there being multiple agencies, sometimes with overlapping jurisdiction such as APD, State, Sheriff's and possibility a Tribal Police agency as well. At some point, the University Police may enter the picture. All have their own policies.
@@TCW838 Thank you...that clears up a few points. Appreciate your response.
@bradhuff256 With all your alphabet soup, you said absolutely nothing to contradict my response to the initial question. My response was regarding policies. I can quote you title, short title, section, subsections, and case law on the ACT. That wasn't the question. Policies are made within statutes and vary among agencies. Your opinions on police in NM are meaningless to me, as I'm sure my opinions would be to you.
Another fine example of a plea deal making district attorney and a weak justice system letting these criminals back out on the street to commit more felonies.
Prisons in the United States are filled beyond capacity already, at 120%. More than any other western country yet we have the highest violent crime rate. Where exactly do your expect the legal system to store all these criminals? And NM has a limited budget compared to richer, bigger states. Would you rather spend it incarcerating these guys... or spend it on crumbling infrastructure, social services, schools and public libraries, disaster relief, childhood food insecurity, potable water, and other support for those who aren't criminals and are struggling? Choices have to be made, and no choice is going to be perfect. I don't like the criminal system's revolving door either, I've been a victim of punks too, but it's naive to just complain but offer no realistic, viable solutions. So I ask you again: where would you like them all to be warehoused: just stacked up like cordwood in your grandma's cellar? Toss them into the Black Hole of Calcutta? Return to just hanging people for any infraction with no trial? Ship them all to Florida, the way they kidnaped and shipped 50 legally documented immigrants to Martha's Vineyard (which cost about $600,000 to do, not including all the aftercare they needed once they arrived). And where would you (obviously an expert), draw the line on who gets locked up and who doesn't? I don't trust our bozo politicians, they aren't sending our best or our brightest to Congress any more. Who would you trust? Or would you prefer anarchy, because just locking everyone up is one step further down that road, to the collapse of democracy. Sheesh!
@@MarySanchez-qk3hpnice blog
@@Shifffyy Two words and you had to edit it?
A Raiders Sweatshirt… nothing like having a large sign on his back to make Identifying him easy.
This is for my Nephew…(Who wares a Raider sweatshirt any way) 😂😂😂😂 He has been a lifelong supporter 😊🤷🏼♀️
Deport the criminals!
Why do you think he wasn't from the US?
He looks like a born and raised New Mexican though.
He means throw criminals out of the country. Not complex.
@@megarth1 and send them where?
@@scho553Australia like the Brits did. Put them on an island
The article said officers did not record. What are we watching then? I pray the department prevails. The obvious question? Do they same people that were in an ACCIDENT want police to not follow criminals that did something to them? Sick of go away money. Perhaps departments need to pay for damages in these cases. Do they?
cant get any money out of the criminal, only one left to sue is the police 😆
Insurance would pay for damages thats what its for.
@@DeagleGamesTV and your rates would go up, so you have to pay hundreds more each year for the rest of your life for an accident you didnt cause
@@audenharper3014so whats the point of having insurance ???
@@DeagleGamesTVif you’re talking about the guy who ran. He has no insurance. Maybe I misunderstood.
Usual suspect/perp ... I watch a ton of these and there is a commonality to 9/10 of these ... you have to just call a spade a spade on the matter!!!!
He got by with a slap on the hand.
Would you be able to post Daniel kota from edgewood police?
Good workteam officier t.y for your service and clean street
So the police show up and help you because you are injured YET you decide to sue them instead of the idiot who crashed into you!?! A true POS move. Not as bad as the criminal´s conduct, but still a POS to sue the police.
Also, try wearing a seatbelt.
Actually you’re the pos
Bc he obviously wouldn’t got hit if the pigs weren’t chasing
Common sense bootlicker
It does not matter who has the light!
The initial comment: "another NMSP officer _spotted_ the Cadillac"... ha... he was damn near side swiped!
Man what a sad way to treat a caddie
I believe that whoever is doing these videos needs to work on there audio so you can hear what the officers are reporting
Ofc he was a raiders fan 🙄
I doubt he was a radiers fan, its popular with gang bangers.
3:47 did he just have a stroke ?
Waste of fuel.
Las Vegas Raiders: 0
New Mexico State Police: 1
I noticed the cop passed another car with no plate light on.
what time stamp? I didn't notice
The original officers dashcam is not shown. I didn’t receive it in the files I received from the records department. The officers footage you see is another officer who spotted the vehicle after it fled into ABQ
Even when someone pleads guilty, there should not be a plea agreement. Courts need to stop playing politics and get down to dealing with justice and grace. Too many who enter this country illegally have not cultivated an upstanding lifestyle, but rather one of violence, crime and lawlessness. They do not respect out laws or values. This guy began doing the George Floyd nonsense by saying he couldn't breath when it was obvious he could. I say... send them back to their point of origin and not allow them to stay here or return.
Too true
If there were no plea bargains, a lot more cases would get taken to trial--after all, if there were no value in pleading guilty, why not roll the dice on a favorable jury? And the court system would not be able to handle that. In practice, that would mean there would only be enough resources to prosecute extremely serious cases.
i say send em to the dirt
@@RobAlpacaflip
Yup. But hey... these drivers bring it upon themselves, so what results is all on them, not the cops.
At least they got them on the two worse counts.
Okay, I got to ask. Are you guys still wearing masks in NM?
This video was from 2021
That is great blame the ones who are trying to protect you. What trashie people.
The police officers car sounds like crap in the video
"driver fled on foot" yup i knew he wasnt white
It's funny how the agency with lawsuit-avoidance pursuit policies that sacrifice public safety to protect the department from a lawsuit caught a lawsuit anyway, arguably as a direct result of those lawsuit-avoidance policies. There was a PIT attempt as the second trooper picked up the pursuit, which is already a rarity from NMSP, but due to their "the more lives you endanger the less we do to stop you" mindset, the trooper has a maximum PIT speed of 35 mph, it looks like he swept over for the PIT when he hit 35, and inevitably missed since the suspect was still accelerating past that. The trooper never got a second chance for a PIT before the crash happened because of that PIT speed limit. Every law enforcement officer takes an oath to protect the public with their lives, but some departments scoff in the face of that oath. NMSP deserves the lawsuit, and hopefully they learn that the best way to avoid a lawsuit is simple: Let troopers do their job, the one they signed up for, the one they swore an oath for. Let troopers actually, actively protect, rather than thinking the role of police is to escort reckless drivers to a crash scene.
The issue with what youre saying is that in being sued its ultimately the regular everyday people of New Mexico that loose out.
@@travisl1331 I mean tbf it's also the regular everyday people of New Mexico that lose out when NMSP wants to play cat and mouse with the cat in a muzzle. That's kinda the whole reason NMSP should get its shit together, and it's just the unfortunate reality that it takes at least one lawsuit to encourage a government agency to fix problems.
@@laserjet37main49 You keep blaming NMSP but if you look most of the agencies in NM have no pursuit policies.They do it because of what happened in the video.
The police are deliberately placed in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation by the powers that be, just like school teachers. If they do their jobs and somebody gets hurt, it's because the pursuit policy is reckless; if they follow a weak policy and somebody gets hurt, they 'failed to protect the community'.
State Police needs to start doing PITs on these fleeing idiots to prevent this from happening Arkansas State Police don’t have a issue Pitting their fleeing vehicles this accident could’ve been avoided if that one Officer could’ve Pitted him before going over the bridge he was right on that Cadillac
Nope.
Look at the devastation he caused. And he FLED. It's heartbreaking to watch these people suffering and fearful and injured, knowing he just ran from it all. May God hold him accountable and send His angels to watch over and help heal all who were harmed. In Jesus name😔🙏🏻
We don't have a race problem in America, we have a problem race! 🤣
ONLY IN NO MEXICO!!
STAY FROSTY
DTIAFG!!!
This is why I say, if you wanna chase, get a helicopter period, full stop.
No. Helicopters cost an insane amount of money to maintain and operate. Hundreds of thousands of dollars per shift.
@@bradhuff256 Yes, they do. I know because I have spoken with helicopter pilots who do police and medical flights.
Make him pay for that other man's truck
21.8% of drivers in New Mexico are uninsured, or under insured. I'd bet serious money, he wasn't insured. As a very poor state/lack state, insurance isn't a priority here. My insurance went up $50 because of the amount of of claims filed in New Mexico last year. As an insured driver, I pay more because of it.
Why am i not surprised the driver is black