Could Sly Save His Parents? Sly Cooper Theory

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  • čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
  • Here's another Sly Cooper Parents Theory/Discussion video. Sly's parents were shown faceless in Sly Cooper Thievius Raccoonus. However, Sanzaru Games briefly showed Connor Cooper in Thieves in Time.
    Sly's parents were always and still are a huge mystery. No one really knows why their faces were always hidden in Thievius Raccoonus, Band of Thieves and Honor among Thieves. Maybe it was simply to keep the parents a mystery; however, what if their faces were hidden for a reason? Could their faces perhaps turn into a plot twist?
    Back in 2013, Mat Kraemer from Sanzaru Games and Kevin Miller, Sly's voice actor, discussed about the possibility of Sly meeting his parents in Thieves in Time. Kraemer believed it would alter the future easily, and the company didn't want to dive into that whole mess.
    But, what if Sly Cooper decided to pay his parents a visit in the future? What if he meets his parents unintentionally? Would he save them from Clockwerk, or would he simply leave everything as they were in the first place?
    Hopefully you enjoy this Sly Cooper Parents Theory!
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Komentáře • 242

  • @NordiusOfficial
    @NordiusOfficial Před 7 lety +11

    I still think for near the end of Sly 5. Sly should time travel to like 1980s or 1990s sometime before his parents death like make friends with father with the feeling that very soon his father will die they could even have an emotional moment where Connor "Slys Dad" says "You look a lot a like my boy." All along sly knowing if he does not let his parents (Father) die. He will have never met his current friends and could reek chaos to the future. So he makes the decision to let time run its course and lets his parents (Father) be sacrificed to save time itself causing paradox. Before this however he has to say one final goodbye to his father. This is very emotional and would def cause tears like those we got during the ending of Ratchet and Clank: A Crack In Time.

    • @NordiusOfficial
      @NordiusOfficial Před 7 lety +1

      Dark is what I want.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety +3

      Chills! I think they could introduce Connor this way. Like you mentioned, doing otherwise will cause a paradox.

  • @bummycartier4095
    @bummycartier4095 Před 7 lety +17

    this is why you don't add time travel to a game.. IT'S TOO COMPLICATED

  • @nickclashbcommander40
    @nickclashbcommander40 Před 6 lety +4

    Plus, while Sly's backstory was sad and tragic, it's also one of the reasons we all love Sly's character in the first place.

  • @darnellputman9047
    @darnellputman9047 Před 8 lety +5

    Man Vi, this one goes so deep into so many possibllities of what ifs that could possibly lead to a decision, a really hard decision.

  • @nickclashbcommander40
    @nickclashbcommander40 Před 6 lety +5

    In Sly Cooper: Thieves In Time, I think Sly knew that this gave him the opportunity to travel to anytime he wanted and that he even briefly thought about possibly taking advantage of this to go back and save him parents from being killed.

  • @drummercymbalsamples
    @drummercymbalsamples Před 8 lety +3

    Having a game that shows sly's father's quest would be so cool.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety +1

      The easiest thing to do is to have an episode with his father, without changing the future. If the future did change, then the plot of Sly 5 would be to fix all that.

  • @crystalthunderheart8895
    @crystalthunderheart8895 Před 8 lety +18

    Sly's dad is Waaaaaaay smarter than Sly, heck Bentley and Sly's dad have way more in common. Picture code cracking, a lab, technology. Sly's dad had stuff in jars.... What was his nerd specially?

    • @crystalthunderheart8895
      @crystalthunderheart8895 Před 8 lety +7

      So Bentley could be like a black sheep in in the family. Like Seldon from Big Bang theory. Or like sly didn't inherit his dad's smarts, but he did inherit cleverness.

    • @Dozzyy452
      @Dozzyy452 Před 4 lety

      Decent ideas

  • @nickclashbcommander40
    @nickclashbcommander40 Před 6 lety +4

    However, while this was very tempting, Sly quickly decided it against this as he realized that he only met Bentley and Murray and became the great master thief that he is now because of losing them and the Thievous Raccoonus!

  • @waleed9165
    @waleed9165 Před 8 lety +4

    VTNVIVI your analyzing of these sly cooper theories are honeslty amazing i dont know why u dont have a million subscribers tbh ur amazing stay they way you are

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Thank you :D. I appreciate it!

  • @BloxXor
    @BloxXor Před 8 lety

    Dude, I just subscribed your channel and watched all your Sly Cooper videos and damn, I just love these videos. Especially Sly Cooper Theory videos. Keep them up.

  • @nickclashbcommander40
    @nickclashbcommander40 Před 6 lety +3

    Not to mention, time was already being messed with too much due to the events of Sly's ancestors' timeline being changed and we all saw what happened because of that!

  • @nickclashbcommander40
    @nickclashbcommander40 Před 6 lety +1

    Time travel movies have taught me 3 things! 1. Traveling through time would be so cool! 2. Time travel can be very complicated and hard to comprehend. 3. And third, messing with time is not a game and the consequences for doing so can be very disasterous!

  • @illsubscribetoanyone9130
    @illsubscribetoanyone9130 Před 8 lety +10

    MORE SLY COOPER THEORIES - please 👏👏👏😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋

  • @coleinone5959
    @coleinone5959 Před 8 lety

    I love these videos dude, great job!

  • @bentley8710
    @bentley8710 Před 7 lety +4

    I tried to tell Sly

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety +3

      Try harder next time!

    • @TheManofthecross
      @TheManofthecross Před 7 lety +2

      how could you fail that hard benltey how could you fail that bad.

    • @slycooper4506
      @slycooper4506 Před 4 lety +1

      Bentley I don't believe it I finally found you.
      Bentley help me I'm stuck in ancient Egypt I think 1300 BC here are my coordinates
      30.1244-31.2867

  • @crystalthunderheart8895
    @crystalthunderheart8895 Před 8 lety +5

    Or flashpoint paradox would happen.

  • @d.s.n.o.w
    @d.s.n.o.w Před 5 lety +2

    It would probably end up like when the flash saves his mom and realizes how much it changes the future, and trys to fix it. If u think about it it's kinda the same situation, the flash was who he was because his moms death and in the tv sieres when he trys to fix it and saves his mom he realizes he's not the flash any more, and he doesn't even know any of his friends.

  • @kirby3219
    @kirby3219 Před 7 lety +5

    I don't know if this is a theory or not, but what about this?
    We know that in Sly 1, there is a painting of Sly's supposed parents on the wall when he peeks out from the closet as the F5 are ransacking and murdering until they tear apart the Thievius Racoonus. We also know that in Sly 4 TiT, Sly is left in Ancient Egypt with no way to travel back. If he DOES end up travelling back, who's to say that Sly is not one of his own ancestors? If the picture, looking back at it, in silhouette, represents Sly's father, the visuals are nearly identical, and therefore, Sly could be his own father. If this is true, then he would have had to have married Carmelita, and ended up with children of their own, brother and sister, Raccoon and Fox respectively. Knowing that he was an ex-thief, Sly would have taught his son, Sly Jr, the ways of his ancestry, which enabled the first game to begin, as just as he was about midway through the teachings (and Sly's own reading), the F5 came in and killed Sly's dad and Mom.
    Ok, where does his sister come in? Well, knowing that the family was part law part crime, they wouldn't want to subject a cops and robbers feel to their family, so they would have sent her away to a boarding school. Being a thief, Sly's father could have paid for it indefinitely. This may be why there are no mention of Carmelita's parents within the game.
    If Sly and Carmelita are indeed brother and sister, then the game series promotes incest as Carmelita now knows of her brother Sly Cooper as the thief she's been trying to capture since she got into law enforcement. But, because he travelled back to the present from the past, she doesn't realize it's the same Cooper and settles down with him because she feels the same connection, and ends up restarting the loop.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety

      Thanks for sharing! Sly marrying Carmelita and having kids in the future sure. One of their kids beings Sly himself is definitely weird, it's like saying Sly dates his mom in the future. I did talk about something like this in the ''parents'' video. I always wondered if Sly had a sibling, we don't know how many kids the Coopers had right?

    • @kirby3219
      @kirby3219 Před 7 lety

      Right, so subjecting the series to an incestuous point of view, although not socially acceptable in a lot of places, does put things in a new perspective.

    • @lilevevo
      @lilevevo Před 7 lety

      kirby3219 This is all just a time travel mess

  • @arsi982000
    @arsi982000 Před 3 lety +1

    Voice crack at 4:40 had me ROFL

  • @NotOrdinaryInGames
    @NotOrdinaryInGames Před 8 lety +8

    Sanzaru said NO.
    Because Sly must remain Batman.

  • @hassanghanim3966
    @hassanghanim3966 Před 8 lety +1

    The only thing i want, is sly meeting his Father in his thieving days before retiring, just like sly's other ancestors.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      If they want to implement his father somehow, I think that's the easiest approach. Sly would visit his father just like how he visited his ancestors. However, Sly should still be careful; a small change in the past can affect the future.

  • @alfredklarskovvidovic8386
    @alfredklarskovvidovic8386 Před 8 lety +13

    SLY!!!!!!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety +8

      ;)

    • @frankpatterson3154
      @frankpatterson3154 Před 7 lety +1

      in sly cooper 4 the safe in the 3rd episode the treasure in the safe it says they haven't seen the last of clockwork so if in the 5th game they could fight clockwork again and clockwork knows how to timetravel and sends bently and murray to the same time as sly cooper and they meet their ancestor in ancient egypt and mabye he knows how to time travel since he wrote the thevius racoonus with knowledge from the future

  • @meten-saiyanthelombax2970

    This could be a complicated but a Awseaom game! That the game ends by that Sly and the gang set the timeline like it was.

  • @TheodoreHodel
    @TheodoreHodel Před 8 lety +1

    before video: another one? interesting lets hope this one doesn't confuse me.
    after video: MY HEAD! *screams in pain as I hold my head with both hands*

  • @REBDful
    @REBDful Před 6 lety +1

    Sly could tell his parents to adopt Bentley and Murray.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      There's always that sure, but are we sure it'll all be the same?

  • @Order-Sol
    @Order-Sol Před 8 lety +2

    VTNVIVI Are you talking about if Sly or evildoers ruins the past, then the Time Paradox will occur? Meaning Sly will not exists or the other way around. This reminds me of Back to the Future.

  • @christopherbetancourt4643

    My theory is if Sly does meet his parents but he's going to meet them before he was born or when they were like teenagers or kids and maybe he unexpectedly brings his parents together and they start dating because of his actions or maybe he meets his dad when the original Cooper Gang was still together

  • @metalemeraldsonic1943
    @metalemeraldsonic1943 Před 8 lety

    I love the music its very chaotic

  • @Lord_KillerBee
    @Lord_KillerBee Před 3 lety

    I do agree that if sly did save his parents then the timeline, which unfolded afterwards, would be completely different. Sly wouldn't have ended up in the orphanage and wouldn't have become life long friends with Murray and Bentley. As for what happens next is open to quite a lot of interpretation and assumptions since first game: sly seeks revenge against clockwerk, second game: prevent clockwerk from being revived a second time, after that:?????.
    Also here's a theory I've wondered: is sly a thief because he wants to be one or was that expected of him? Bentley and Murray both did their own thing when sly left to be with Carmelita but he chose to steal once more; is it because he wanted to do that or because he was a Cooper and they were expected to steal things?

  • @heartsofhearts
    @heartsofhearts Před 7 lety

    I love Sly Cooper and the gang, the whole collections of games. But the theory of sly is dark and I enjoy this video.

  • @Gamer-dj7mh
    @Gamer-dj7mh Před 7 lety +1

    What if sly's mother survived and decided to take sly to the orphanage to protect him, and sly never talked about her to protect her.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety

      But why wouldn't he mention his mother? For now, it's assumed she's dead considering the fact that Sly said Clockwerk caught up with his parents in Sly 2.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga Před 8 lety

    awesome video

  • @crystalthunderheart8895
    @crystalthunderheart8895 Před 8 lety +2

    Uhhhhhhhhh I'm pretty sure they make there own canes. And Sly's cane is his dad's cane, he'd already have a cane.
    Don't make the cane theory be the song of storms!

  • @zackarymario1335
    @zackarymario1335 Před 4 lety +1

    what is the music in the video

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 4 lety

      Night Of The Dark Dream KH BBS
      czcams.com/video/JpHeouAZhi8/video.html

  • @aaronjackson2126
    @aaronjackson2126 Před 21 dnem

    What's the music in the background?

  • @supergamingbros393
    @supergamingbros393 Před 8 lety

    This feel likes the flashpoint movie

  • @nickclashbcommander40
    @nickclashbcommander40 Před 6 lety

    I also think that it would be wise to avoid running into yourself in the past or future. I'm not sure what would happen in that scenario, but whatever would happen, wouldn't be very good!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      It really depends of the extent, I mean Sly interacted with his ancestors, his own blood.

  • @nrdfox7689
    @nrdfox7689 Před 8 lety

    Maybe Sly 5 would actually answer questions that we fans have. I hope we finally get some answers about his parents because The game gave us so little information about Sly's father and come to think about it NONE about his mother.So these theory's would bring out the information that we want/need. For me these theory's are not that far fetched. I mean the one when he has a choice to choose his buddy's over his parents that would be quite sad. How do you come up with these theories so fast?There sometimes far fetched but awesome to think about!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      It would be cool to have questions like these answered!

  • @paavis9987
    @paavis9987 Před 7 lety

    what was that shot at 7:28?!?

  • @Krispy69
    @Krispy69 Před 8 lety

    SLY!!! I LUV SLY!!! u just gained a subscriber

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      :D Welcome to the channel!

  • @kendrickvalle9498
    @kendrickvalle9498 Před 7 lety

    whats the name of the song playing its awesome

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety

      Night of the Dark Dream and Night of Tragedy Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep :)

  • @yeeeety6730
    @yeeeety6730 Před 8 lety

    just watched all 26 of your sly videos and ate 2 bags of chips.... Okay well I'll subscribe now.

  • @christopherbetancourt4643

    In my opinion it's going to be a predestination loop like in Jak and Daxter

  • @corp.gamer.inc.8688
    @corp.gamer.inc.8688 Před 8 lety

    Do you have any sly 5 updates

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      If I do, I'll update you guys don't worry ;)

  • @raymond6845
    @raymond6845 Před 8 lety

    I think that it would be okay for Sly 5 to have a darker tone. All of the original fanbase is now 17-24 and can take and even enjoy a dark deep storyline now. I don't think they should go for rated M but I wouldn't mind a rated T game if it was for the right reasons(the right reasons being storyline tones rather than explicit content).

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      You're right, the fanbase is older now. The game could easily take a dark turn, I mean look at a Crack In Time where Ratchet basically died for a brief moment. If something tragic happens in Sly 5, the gang might try to use time travel to fix that.

  • @Miidnxghtt
    @Miidnxghtt Před 8 lety

    So basically it's flash point paradox in sly cooper lol

  • @AntonisBaritakis
    @AntonisBaritakis Před 8 lety

    Dude your Sly Cooper vids are amazing! Keep it up! Btw i think that the series is done with time traveling... Sly will come back and thats it, going back and forth again will kill the series. But thats only my opinion

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Thanks, glad you enjoy them :D. These theories are just fun to go over :p. In the end, Sly 5 might have a simple story, such as Sly finding his way back home like you mentioned.

    • @AntonisBaritakis
      @AntonisBaritakis Před 8 lety

      +VTNVIVI Yeah I think that sly's return will work as a prologue and something else will come up

  • @summerbird7570
    @summerbird7570 Před 8 lety

    Bently is more likely to say to sly not to save his perants because if he touches his younger self in any way it will cause a parodox because there cannot be to of you in the same time line also if he changes the past in anyway it could change the future (butterfly effect).

  • @thesailormercury2
    @thesailormercury2 Před 5 lety

    bentley told sly young self to meet young bently

  • @nickclashbcommander40
    @nickclashbcommander40 Před 6 lety

    I don't think Sly could go back and save his parents without disrupting the timeline and altering the past and future too much. While you could theoretically go back and time, save lives or try to prevent many terrible events or disasters from occurring, you must also be aware of all the huge risks and consequences that would come with changing the past as well.

  • @Bsp13896
    @Bsp13896 Před 8 lety

    Give this guy a Sly Cooper script!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety +1

      :p

    • @Bsp13896
      @Bsp13896 Před 8 lety

      I wasn't even joking man. Sanzaru or whatever should watch these vids. For real

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      TheCooperThief If they did, that would be awesome!

    • @Bsp13896
      @Bsp13896 Před 8 lety

      Imagine us Sly Cooper fans, through your channel, building the fifth game...That«s the kind of stuff the world needs

  • @PokemonkaDub
    @PokemonkaDub Před 6 lety

    I really don't want them to do Slypoint Paradox here...

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      Time travel right? Ahhh how lovely.

  • @junioringa1873
    @junioringa1873 Před 8 lety +4

    Omg am srry i was paying attention more to the cutscenes than him talking

  • @hadenfield6922
    @hadenfield6922 Před 8 lety

    Know what would be dope telltale and sanzaru making sly cooper 5 having a choice of saving slys parents

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety +3

      That would be a pretty deep storyline.

    • @xMikka31
      @xMikka31 Před 7 lety +2

      A telltale sly would be sick but I'd make it a spinoff that doesn't affect sly 5 or anything

    • @SlyGTurboFastYB
      @SlyGTurboFastYB Před 7 lety

      +SON GOKU 101 why It would be terrible

  • @Narutofan168
    @Narutofan168 Před 7 lety

    I kept hearing you say that if Sly saves his father, then he never meets Bently and Murray and all this bad stuff happens and such...and I had a thought. What if, in Sly saving his parents, he also manages to convince them to adopt Bently and Murray?
    Granted, this video came out last year, so I'm sure someone else has already proposed this suggestion (in which case, I apologize for re-explaining this point to you), but still...it's not that far-fetched of a concept to consider. It's an orphanage, after all - kids who've lost their parents are meant to be adopted into foster families through it (or, failing that, at least live in the system until they become of age where they are no longer considered dependents).
    But yeah...this could potentially fix the key problem in Sly saving his parents from certain death; Bently and Murray growing up with Sly under his father and mother's care - not just as friends, but also as literal brothers (in legal terms). He still meets them, still bonds with them, still grows up with them, and they also learn about the family trade from Sly's father as well. The team could be as strong as ever in their resolve, bond, and skill set, and Sly might even end up being far more prepared to face Clockwerk whenever the time came for him to do so than he originally was in the first game.
    I don't know. Just something that came to mind.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety

      Thank you for sharing! Yes, many have shared this idea before but it's still cool to read :) How sure are we that Sly's mother would agree with Sly becoming the next honourable thief? Sure he was going to inherit the book, but with time, the mother would start having doubts.

    • @Narutofan168
      @Narutofan168 Před 7 lety

      While that may be true (or not - we know next to nothing about his mother; she might've been all for him pursuing the Cooper legacy of thieving for all we know), isn't it ultimately Sly's choice in the end if he wants to pursue his family's legacy regardless as to whether or not his mother approves? After all, I doubt the orphanage he was sent to would've approved of his dream of becoming a master thief or of Bently and Murray's desire to back him on it.
      Maybe the disapproval would've had a bit more of an impact on him coming from his mother instead of just some strict old caretaker, but I still don't think Sly, Bently, or Murray would've changed their course too much within the given scenario, save for being raised in a family and taught by Sly's father.

    • @gamerguy6990
      @gamerguy6990 Před 7 lety

      there's a problem with your theory child sly doesn't know about bentley and Murray

    • @Narutofan168
      @Narutofan168 Před 7 lety

      True, but adult Sly does. The theory isn't regarding whether the child version saves his parents and convinces them to adopt Bently and Murray, but rather if the adult version went back in time to this point and did that.

    • @TheManofthecross
      @TheManofthecross Před 7 lety

      in either case fanfiction would have covered that.

  • @yasminnerdje2359
    @yasminnerdje2359 Před 5 lety

    Wait what if in sly 3 that la paradaox was ons of the Guus that was in the band of the father of sly,s father

  • @coreymckee4844
    @coreymckee4844 Před 8 lety

    that was a loooong theory.. lol but dam.. some good points in there though 👍here's hoping when the movie comes out they don't do something like make it the movie based on the game based on the movie.. cause although I enjoyed ratchet and clank alot, it still might help for the future though.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Glad you enjoyed the vid! About the Sly movie, I think it's going to be a retelling of the first game, just like R&C. However this time, Rainmaker might take critics and reviews into account.

  • @imsecretspie
    @imsecretspie Před 8 lety

    nice vid

  • @kaijurider9505
    @kaijurider9505 Před 7 lety

    I agree.

  • @ese1588
    @ese1588 Před 8 lety

    Is there schools in the game because that would mean that Bentley Murray and sly would eventually meet in school because by then Murray and Bentley have been adopted and sky's parents are still alive.Am not really sure about what I said

  • @shanianordstrom7326
    @shanianordstrom7326 Před 8 lety

    what would happened if sly defeated clockverk in Egypt?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Future changes. Sly's parents might stay alive. The future might even be corrupt.

  • @crystalthunderheart8895
    @crystalthunderheart8895 Před 8 lety +1

    I have this crazy theory that Sly's dad is still alive.
    Another theory is that sly saved his parents, but they have to be dead to the world and there son. So he could still go to the orphanage and stuff.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      That would be one interesting story.

  • @there4you19
    @there4you19 Před 3 lety

    Well if he saves them then he Wouldn't have ever meet Carmelita nor Bently and Murray.

  • @mymusic9407
    @mymusic9407 Před 6 lety

    Murray's name is sue

  • @FisherofAirborneMarsh
    @FisherofAirborneMarsh Před 8 lety

    What sly could do is save his parents and then since he doesn't go to the orphanage well then they could adopt Murray and Bentley

  • @NOORBABYISTOOGOOD
    @NOORBABYISTOOGOOD Před 7 lety

    The thing is he would never meet Bentley and murray

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety

      Exactly! That's one risk Sly will have to take into account.

  • @terabitez3374
    @terabitez3374 Před 8 lety

    hey what if he killed clockwork in the past. and he still had his memories so he went to the orphanage and his family adopted them

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Them as in Murray and Bentley? Maybe.

  • @thesailormercury2
    @thesailormercury2 Před 5 lety

    he meet other coppers does that ruin sly life in the 21st

  • @arilylie8908
    @arilylie8908 Před 7 lety

    Well, what if he saves his parents and says to them they have to leave him to the orphanage at the age of 8 to save the future and they can live keeping a low profile after explaining the whole situation? I mean, his past life won't be changed and they can meet when he comes back from the future after growing up and all the adventures. His father can contact him once sly reached the age when he goes back to save him and so there won't be the trauma of discovering that his parents are alive because he went back to save them and when he comes back to the present he will find them alive like he planned, plus he grows up believing they are dead (or something that his parents will tell him when they leave him at the orphanage) like the normal story, meets bentley and murray, until he goes to the past to save his parents and the circle restarts. I hope you understand or I will try to reword.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety

      I do understand. Think of this, if old Sly does tell his parents to leave him at the orphanage, what are the chances of Sly discovering his parents being alive? If they were kept alive, what would've happened to Clockwerk? It could've changed the future, causing Sly to just vanish and no longer be destined to time travel in the first place. Either he might die or just go to the timeline he's meant to be in, you know once he grows up with his parents alive. Interesting read :)

    • @arilylie8908
      @arilylie8908 Před 7 lety

      "what are the chances of Sly discovering his parents being alive? " Because he will grow up believing they are dead and he will do all the adventure until the time travel and during this he decides to save them and goes back, saves them and tells them to let him go to the orphanage and tell little sly that they are dead and hide until he's the age of the saving. Then he will go back to his present after saving them and finds them waiting for him because it was his plan. Is it clear? I mean, he does remember the adventures of the past during sly 4 and the future wasn't affected by the changes that the cooper gang did while helping the ancestors, so why wouldn't work now? I don't know about Clockwerk, maybe killing him during his parents deaths night will prevent Neyla and Bentley's chair other they could invent something to fake the parents death ( I mean there are pills that make the heart beat to stop and such as to look dead) so the fiendish five and little sly will believe they are dead (this will be more similar to the real story). I don't think Sly will vanish, because when something happened to the ancestor he should have vanished the moment they were in danger(since if they are captured he can't be born) and it didn't happen to Sly in Sly 4. My point is that he could grow up without his parents and with the cooper gang BUT he could have his parents alive during his older life.
      And for what we know they could be alive since Sly never mentions the corpse or we never saw a grave and what do you think an 8 years old could distinguish a passed out person from a dead one after such traumatic experience? I mean they could have survived and hidden for his safety but this is a very unlikely theory ahahaha

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety

      Ari Lylie If old Sly had saved his parents and told his younger self that they were dead, wouldn't them actually being alive impact the future? Surely anyone would have find out about their existence. About the ancestors in Sly 4, technically yeah Sly could've vanished, but they were destined to rescue them and that's how time was kept stable, interesting topic by the way. Now you mentioned a grave, that is a scene I'd like to see in the Sly movie, I did talk about it in my let's discuss video.

    • @arilylie8908
      @arilylie8908 Před 7 lety

      yeah I love your videos and I saw them almost everyone in two days hahahah I would like that too in the movie (saw that video). Your point between the different of ancestors and my parents theory is right, didn't think it about it. I still think that they could live without being discovered and if you don't remember McSweany hid from Sly for 20 years circa (I'm talking about the second sly comic book from Sucker Punch, where Sly said to McSweany "if you told me before I would have rescured you way before"), same for Dottor M and many others. You made me realize that without the need of Sly to rescue his parents' time (or was the right form of the plural with ending "s": "parents's"? I really don't remember) could be disturbed, BUT if they make him go back to that time because of something like Sly 4 time problems, I don't know if him telling them everything and asking them to do what I said will create problems or no. This is a valid question I think, although it's a videogame and so it doesn't really have to stick completely 100% to have things would happen in reality :D (this is more a developers choice). Still I will be happy with just Sly meeting his father and him knowing Sly is his son; I really want to see them interact!
      Curiosity: What do you think about the theory of his name been Connor? From what I heard is almost confirmed right? And where could I get those instruction books where there was written that bentley has sibilings ecc?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 7 lety

      Ari Lylie About Sly meeting his father, this idea, fun fact, was discussed during one of the second funniest podcasts hosted by Kevin Miller and Justin Worsham. Sanzaru's Mat Kraemer was a guest once and compared this situation to Batman and Joker, something he didn't feel was necessary for Sly 4. As for Sly 5, who knows. Conner was confirmed according to the collection strategy guide. You can find all these online these days, amazon, Ebay, etc. Oh and remember, #freeslyfromegypt

  • @raja-adams8483
    @raja-adams8483 Před 5 lety

    3:42 MY GLASSES uhhhh YOUR FEET YOU MEAN

  • @ctzqeementira
    @ctzqeementira Před 8 lety

    if his father had not died , he would not have known Bentley and Murray thus would never have formed the gang or defeated Fiendish Five...

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Exactly!

    • @ctzqeementira
      @ctzqeementira Před 8 lety

      +VTNVIVI ;)

    • @tuutelis
      @tuutelis Před 8 lety

      but what if he went to bentley and murray's time period and took them with him to his parents' time lel

    • @ctzqeementira
      @ctzqeementira Před 8 lety

      Tux Games lel

  • @bestofmyeffortcustoms2581

    What if it was Sly that died instead of his parents?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Oh boy, then that would alter the future a lot! Clockwerk would probably remain alive.

  • @cloudspecs3864
    @cloudspecs3864 Před 8 lety

    IT can be

  • @NegaLimbo
    @NegaLimbo Před 8 lety

    This is complicated and confusing. All I want to know is when the heck is Sly 5 coming? If it is coming that is.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      We all wonder about that! So far, Sanzaru's up for it, but the decision is ultimately made by Sony. Maybe the movie might encourage Sly 5.

    • @NegaLimbo
      @NegaLimbo Před 8 lety

      VTNVIVI I wonder when this movie is coming?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Still no production according to Munroe. If we go with Rainmaker's replies ''we're working on it... stay tuned...'', MAYBE they're hinting towards a new trailer.

    • @NegaLimbo
      @NegaLimbo Před 8 lety

      VTNVIVI Is the key word in that sentence "maybe"? Just asking because...well...

  • @Theta117
    @Theta117 Před 8 lety

    I'm still here vivi

  • @jadonharper3978
    @jadonharper3978 Před 8 lety

    okay, so what if sly was actually supposed to be a master thief villain? what if his dad was evil and all of his ancestors, and sanzaru games decided not to ruin our childhoods by making all of his ancestors evil? sure, when the fiendish 5 broke in, sly's father (Connor Cooper) he saved his family, like any other good family member, but maybe he didn't die after all and left sly and his wife? just to let his wife die and fake his death? this is a very weird theory, I know, but idk.

    • @jadonharper3978
      @jadonharper3978 Před 8 lety

      oh and also, here's another one... what if sly's father escaped the death of the fiendish 5 break in and escaped to eventually rebuilds himself? meanwhile, hiring all the bosses that sly has faced in the 3rd sly (as far as I remember, there is no clockwork relation in that game)? including the Octavio, Penelope, Dr M, but the thing with dr m, was that maybe he was always evil with sly's dad and his dad wanted to be the last Cooper of the family, and regretted having another son? he hired the bosses to take sly out of the family, as far as I know, Connor Cooper was a world class thief and he might've wanted to be the last one to do so. maybe Connor wanted to win the competition of being the greatest thief, aka the best COOPER thief of all time? and maybe Dr M was Bentley's Dad somehow, maybe the other guy was Murrey's Dad, and Sly's dad they were all part of a gang, yet to try to take out the coopers.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      His ancestors, well some of them being evil doesn't sound crazy. Ok, the ancestors we saw in Sly weren't evil, but what about the others right? I always wonder about his mom, could she possibly be alive?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      If you've read the comics, Connor seemed like a nice guy. Once Sly was born, he put an end to his adventures and let Mc. Sweeney hide the map to the vault.

  • @ctzqeementira
    @ctzqeementira Před 8 lety

    if his father had not died , he would not have known Bentley and Murray thus would never have formed the gang or defeated Fiendish Five...and if it went this way, the Sly Cooper's story would be never happened 😭😭😭

    • @godlynukes773
      @godlynukes773 Před 8 lety

      But what if he saved his parents and they made a promise to leave him alone for years faking their death so he would go to the orphanage...maybe the parents even make sure he goes to orphanage and then they meet up once he's older?

    • @ctzqeementira
      @ctzqeementira Před 8 lety

      +Godly Nukes well...there's a good possibility...

    • @tuutelis
      @tuutelis Před 8 lety

      but if he saved his parents, he defeated the Fiendish Five...

  • @manbanasiak
    @manbanasiak Před 8 lety

    If I were Bentley I would use a simulation of sly's parents out of his dna and map them out for him. And a cooper detector. In sly 4 thieves in time he mapped the cooper DNA and install an upgrade on sly's binocucom. What if Bentley founds out that sly wasn't the only child? What if he made a drone that has the cooper DNA to track another?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety +1

      An evil brother or sister?

    • @manbanasiak
      @manbanasiak Před 8 lety

      VTNVIVI No. But I see what you would ask that.

    • @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
      @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@manbanasiak
      I think Sly having a brother or sister he never knew he had would be interesting and his mom and dad likely were going to tell him but they never got the chance to do it.

    • @manbanasiak
      @manbanasiak Před 11 měsíci

      @@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 or his mom survived by taking his brother or sister before the clockwerck and his gang found and murderised his gang.

    • @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
      @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Před 11 měsíci

      @@manbanasiak
      That be interesting too

  • @acebi_ly9246
    @acebi_ly9246 Před 6 lety

    I just realized that Clockwerk is the only member of the Fiendish Fish to actually have a reason to attack Sly's dad. I mean, why the fuck was Raleigh there ? Or Muggshot ? Or Mz Ruby ? Or Panda King ? And why their future endeavors have nothing to do with Sly or his parents. I mean, Muggshot doesn't even have a fucking plot for his level. His just one big mean dude. And he's not even mean for a reason ! Just because children mock him ? How sensitive is this guy ? Raleigh want to be rich. Like, wow. Really sought after. Mz Ruby wants ghosts ... to ... take over Mexico. Fucking why ? And Panda King ... well he's a poor frustrated dude turn into an actual psychopath. Panda King is the only non-clockwerk member of the Fiendish Five to actually have some plot. 60 % of the first game is just some weird bullshit.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      I think Sly 1 could've dived a lot deeper agreed.

  • @Gamer-dj7mh
    @Gamer-dj7mh Před 7 lety

    I guess to protect her, its justo a theory

  • @twistedk.7187
    @twistedk.7187 Před 8 lety

    Im confused... I also think its more far fetched then the other one... But non the less its a good theory c:

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      I thought the other one was more far-fetched XD, oh well. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @SenseiIceman
    @SenseiIceman Před 8 lety

    I don't like that I really hope it doesn't happen like that....But I think that sly could save his parents n still meet them wat if Bentley n Murray team up n eventually know that they need some one like sly n go looking for him n he ends up teaming up with them either way

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      The theory is pretty dark. I think the easiest way is to simply have Sly meet his father just like how he met his ancestors. But at the same time, Sly has to be careful not to change the future too much.

    • @SenseiIceman
      @SenseiIceman Před 8 lety

      +VTNVIVI your right but my way is not as dark as the original n it works out in the end

  • @cloudspecs3864
    @cloudspecs3864 Před 8 lety

    Wy have THE same game tast

  • @ninorissanen2772
    @ninorissanen2772 Před 8 lety

    Do you make these theories by yourself?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Yes :P.

    • @ninorissanen2772
      @ninorissanen2772 Před 8 lety

      +VTNVIVI I don't have enough brain power to even make theory about Dora the explorer :/

  • @veetikivela653
    @veetikivela653 Před 6 lety

    HECK NO I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS KIND OF A PLOT!!!!!!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      Pretty sad ey?

    • @veetikivela653
      @veetikivela653 Před 6 lety

      Yes indeed it is if it would have that kind of story i would throw the disc at the wall

  • @AdrianGamer2012
    @AdrianGamer2012 Před 8 lety

    How did the Sly parents die? (Sorry for my bad english :S)

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      The Fiendish Five attacked their home. Panda King was the one who killed his father.

    • @omegasamurai1787
      @omegasamurai1787 Před 8 lety

      +VTNVIVI I thought Clockwerk did??

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Trevor Booker Clockwerk simply hired them to do his dirty work.

    • @omegasamurai1787
      @omegasamurai1787 Před 8 lety

      +VTNVIVI oh OK so sly had to trust the man who killed his,dad in sly 3

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Trevor Booker *Correction* Panda King took part of Connor's death. Although Panda King helped them in Sly 3 in return for saving his daughter, Sly still didn't feel like trusting him. Yup, sorry for the confusion :p

  • @nobodygibs5810
    @nobodygibs5810 Před 8 lety

    time travel is confusing, wouldnt everything return to normal if sly saved his father in the past, if sly never meets bentaly, then he wouldnt be able to make a time machine, sly cant time travel back to his parents ,therefore he wouldnt be able to save them, so everything will be rewritten (also what if clockwerks slys mother :O)

    • @godlynukes773
      @godlynukes773 Před 8 lety

      How? Would he/she or whatever be his mother ? Makes no sense

    • @nobodygibs5810
      @nobodygibs5810 Před 8 lety

      i was joking at the end

    • @nobodygibs5810
      @nobodygibs5810 Před 8 lety

      if sly never meets bentaly, he cant time travel to when his father dies so he cant save his dad, then everything resets

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Hmm... Perhaps Bentley and Murray will experience some weird changes in the future like some stuff randomly starting to disappear. Since Sly is in the past, he would have no idea of what's happening in the future. Yes, time travel is confusing. About stuff randomly disappearing, we had the pages of the Thievius Raccoonus fading away in Sly 4. People from the future can therefore experience changes.

  • @alex-tek5070
    @alex-tek5070 Před 8 lety

    I love sly

  • @enho1786
    @enho1786 Před 8 lety

    No wait, what if he save his parents in sly 5 than there a nouns map where he goes back I'm time take himself down to stop him from saving his parents. ik it sound stupid for the battle against himself and just idea but be cool to me

  • @memory_LF
    @memory_LF Před 8 lety

    we're awesome viewers? YAY

  • @TheAlaskanDude
    @TheAlaskanDude Před 3 lety

    I think sly should be more dark not as kiddish darker moments of sly would be nice

  • @ninjamoncaudle5320
    @ninjamoncaudle5320 Před 8 lety

    hmmmm really interesting I could see Penelope doing something like that saving slys parents think about it saving slys parent will mean he would have never ment Bentley and you could say that would mean she would have never meet Bentley well yes and no see time travel rule number 51 if you were there you still have all your memory's and are unaffected by the change of the space time continuum so she could keep sly from meeting Bently by that way or even sending sly to a different orphanage then track Bently down to meet back up with him and start things over this time without sly I think if anything its sending him to a different orphanage but it could be either or either way Penelope gets Bently all to herself no sly no Murray and no carmalita.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Interesting! But, what if the future gets corrupted, where all villains are roaming the streets? Without Sly meeting Bentley, Sly wouldn't become the master thief/hero he is.

    • @ninjamoncaudle5320
      @ninjamoncaudle5320 Před 8 lety

      VTNVIVI​ very true the space time continuum is EXTREMELY fragile if you mess with it Penelope might take care of the 5 but everyone else will still be around doing bad things Penelope might put that into consideration when making the plan but what can she really do about all of those villains other then sly 4 because le paradox was only a b let to do things with Penelope help so they won't have to worry about the villains in that game and mabye sly 2 but that depends on what Penelope does with clockwork anything could happen

  • @thepossesedmilkdud3490

    Honestly, I think they should have never time travelled, that started a bunch of bad (Like Le Paradox)

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      They could have avoided time travel and just referenced the ending of Sly 3, where Bentley is still working on a time machine.

  • @deonrodgers5219
    @deonrodgers5219 Před 8 lety

    uh bruh sly could save his parents and still be a thief think about it since sly has already beaten the fiendish 5 all he has to do is get his squad and his fathers squad and defeat them before the fiendish 5 attack the dad and with the fiendish 5 already finished off for the sake of the future they would have to send sly to the orphanage and around the time that the first game happens they should give him the thevious racoonus which would also mean that the events of sly 2 would happen then sly 3 then sly 4 which would be leaving sly in egypt then that means since the events and circumstances of sly 1 were already dealt with when sly was a kid sly 4 as we know it would not acually be sly 4 it would be sly 3 leaving sly 4 in the timeline to be how sly gets out of egypt and what ever happens next.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      The future remaining intact, it's possible but very tricky! Yes, Sly could succeed at saving his parents. Like you said, for the sake of the future, Sly would have to be sent to the orphanage, but he'd have to convince his parents.

    • @deonrodgers5219
      @deonrodgers5219 Před 8 lety

      +VTNVIVI true but all sly has to do is tell him about what would happen in the years to come and about murray and bently in an effort of trying to save the future or sly's parents could adopt bently and murry although that would change some things

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Deon Rodgers That's possible :p

    • @imnotvelvet
      @imnotvelvet Před 7 lety

      you're forgetting that the Cooper gang needed Panda King in Sly 3 to get to the Cooper vault. Also, Jing King would have never been born, General Tsao would have never been arrested and he would still rule China. Basically, with your theory, older sly needs to kidnap younger sly, tell him what happens in the future and puts him in the orphanage. then, older sly needs to go back to his dad's house, steal the thevious racoonus, and contact Bentley that way because nobody will see it except for the future Bentley. Then, older sly needs to run and give the book to younger sly and tell him about that

  • @nickclashbcommander40
    @nickclashbcommander40 Před 6 lety

    You might be able to go back and change small things without causing too much trouble, but if you were to try to change major events like 911 or the rise of Hitler in Nazi Germany, chances are you most likely just mess things up and inadvertently cause something worse to happen instead!

  • @ghouldash9761
    @ghouldash9761 Před 8 lety

    I think Sly would've become evil if his father was still alive.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 8 lety

      Hmm... We don't really know if Sly's father was nice. If his father were bad, then Sly following his foot steps might lead him to turn evil who knows.

    • @ghouldash9761
      @ghouldash9761 Před 8 lety

      VTNVIVI True. Still, we can never be too sure if he was good or evil.

  • @MrInfamousComic
    @MrInfamousComic Před 8 lety

    Sly Video?

  • @lauracoderre2027
    @lauracoderre2027 Před 6 lety +2

    Too dark

  • @gabehobby3951
    @gabehobby3951 Před 6 lety

    You keep saying parents but I think that his mom already died and it's just sly's dad

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      In Sly 3, Sly said Clockwerk caught up with HIS parents, most likely case is they both died that night.

  • @colbystanford252
    @colbystanford252 Před 3 lety

    sly could have never met bentley and murey and 1 2 and 3 would have never hapen