Timing is Key: Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit Timing Section Explained!

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Komentáře • 54

  • @carywatson1146
    @carywatson1146 Před rokem +5

    I acknowledge you for being willing to try and guide through things people can easily get lost on!
    Keep it going Joe! I appreciate you!

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      Thanks! My issue is I'm so close to the problem (I created these test tones) that I feel the need to explain in more detail than most people probably want/need. 😁

  • @bendelmundo6061
    @bendelmundo6061 Před rokem +2

    Sweet the pic of my HT made it to the video! I used the timing track over the weekend along with the impulse measurements from REW to dial in my system even more. This disc has helped tremendously!

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem +1

      Ohhh yeahhh!!! Good seeing you here and on Discord.

  • @keepingupwiththejones2933

    JoeNTell cares so much about people improving their enjoyment of their home audio system. Such a good man

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem +1

      🙏You're a good man for saying that.

  • @mattgiunt
    @mattgiunt Před rokem +2

    This showed me the way and it changed my sound again for the better. I thought YPAO had nailed timing/distance but I was wrong.

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem +2

      A lot of small changes to a multi-channel system can start to add up. Glad you found it useful!

  • @wayneiceman
    @wayneiceman Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the tutorial Joe. Appreciate all the hard work you and Channa put in. Can't wait to buy your magic beans app. Not buying Dirac Live for my new 3800 until i try out yours

  • @mrspikiespike4807
    @mrspikiespike4807 Před rokem

    I love your tests... they made me find a pretty major problem with my setup running through windows and it was only through your tests that I was able to identify and isolate the problem. (don't ask me what that problem was because I fixed it and moved on and can't remember now)

  • @randelldavis578
    @randelldavis578 Před rokem +1

    I got the toolkit a little over a month but have not applied it yet. I was rearranging my theater room and wanted to wait until I did that which I've done now. Also, the amp went out on my subwoofer a few months ago Which I've taken back to the store that I bought it from to have it repaired (Klipsch SPL 150, still under warranty) but it ain't no telling when I'll get it back but I do have a SVS pb 3000. Maybe I'll try it this week since watching this video have given me the incentive and when I get my subwoofer back, when ever that is, I'll just do it again. Thanks for the incentive and will be looking forward to more.

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem +1

      I hear you. Maybe just mess with it to get familiar with what it does. Take a look at the full guide and see if there's anything you want to test out.

  • @FURognar
    @FURognar Před rokem +1

    I used the toolkit in my latest calibration. Good stuff.

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      🙌🙌🙌 I'm interested in knowing which tests you found useful.

  • @michaelsenko3177
    @michaelsenko3177 Před 6 měsíci

    These tutorials are so helpful with the disk. I started with the Audyssey calibration, then after physcially measuring saw the physical distances were different. The idea of auditory distance makes sense. I am learning so much from you guys. Thank you.

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Glad to help!

    • @michaelsenko3177
      @michaelsenko3177 Před 6 měsíci

      @@joentell If I may ask, maybe I am doing something wrong, but after the calibrations I need to increase the volume on my Denon x3800 during Amtos movies. The dialog enhancer has helped though. The volume is near the reference point. During the toolkit, volume doesn't even need to go halfway for the dialog to sound clear and comfortable. I also have all of the dynamic equalizing stuff turned off.

  • @wendellwendellb339
    @wendellwendellb339 Před rokem +2

    Thanks Joe, you made that section of the test much better to understand! I will be doing another calibration. I try to maybe do a calibration every 4 months!

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem +1

      Glad I could help. Every 4 months, that's pretty cool. I usually redo mine once in awhile when I learn something new or if I want to test something out.

    • @wendellwendellb339
      @wendellwendellb339 Před rokem

      @@joentell I currently have NHT Atmos modules as my front and rear heights, and Polk TL1’s as my middle heights. I like how the Polk’s sound, so I’m considering replacing the NHT’s with the Polk’s. My front stage are also Polk speakers. I’m retired Joe, gives me something to do once in a while!

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      @@wendellwendellb339 if you're in the Owner's Discord group, keep us posted. We're always interested in learning from each other there.
      discord.com/channels/1063009559163187270/1067223381327499304

    • @wendellwendellb339
      @wendellwendellb339 Před rokem

      @@joentell No, I’m not in that group, much less even knew about it! Hell, I’m still learning. I watch and listen to you guys!

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      @@wendellwendellb339 Think about it like a group chat with others who have the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit. It's a place to ask specific questions about the calibration process.

  • @marv_706
    @marv_706 Před rokem +1

    This timing test is similar to the older MCAAC from Pioneer, really nice to have to check post calibration🤙🏽

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      Oh, cool. I've never used MCACC before, so I wouldn't have known if you didn't tell me. 🙏

    • @marv_706
      @marv_706 Před rokem +1

      @@joentell It played like a ticking sound back and forth between two speakers. It used the left speaker as reference and adjust the other speaker distance until the ticking sounded like in the middle.

  • @Hung_Tran_lxxxii
    @Hung_Tran_lxxxii Před rokem +1

    Hey Joe. Love your contents and guides. Is there any plans to add some sort of phase alignment test to the tool kit or is there a way to use the existing section to do so?

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      I think phase would be tough to do unless it's a simple test of polarity with 180° in/out of phase tests like we do in the Polarity Test Track. Precise phase angle would likely require a measurement mic, but we do have impulse response tracks in the advanced section if anyone wants to use those with a mic and REW.

  • @miguelrivera836
    @miguelrivera836 Před rokem

    Is the user guide on the disc if not where can I see it? Thank you in advance. Keep up the great work.

  • @joep6801
    @joep6801 Před rokem

    Thanks Joe, my timing is aligned, what a difference, YPAO does suck!

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem +1

      I haven't tried the new YPAO, so I can say from experience. But, I hear you.

    • @joep6801
      @joep6801 Před rokem

      @@joentell It's a 10 yr old Yammy, hope the new ones are a lot better. Timing was all over the place. SACT is great, definitely gonna check out your Magic beans when released.
      Keep the videos coming, tutorials are a must, helped me out big time.

  • @estsansa25
    @estsansa25 Před rokem

    Thanks Joe you are my sensei 😅, btw, rigth now I have a sony str-dh790, I'm looking for an upgrade with some Denon x1700, 2700 or S970 do you think I will notice the change? 5.1.2.. In fact to take advantage of the toolkit I think I need new recevier, let me know.. hello from Costa Rica 🇨🇷

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem +1

      I wish I had a definite answer for you, but I've never tried the Sony. I do like MultEQ-X on the Denons though

    • @estsansa25
      @estsansa25 Před rokem

      @@joentell no worries I noticed more flexibilty with Denon in fact due to MultEQ options, thanks for your videos

  • @Carlos-gc4hb
    @Carlos-gc4hb Před 7 měsíci

    Would the spatial audio work with any speaker configuration? I have 7.4.4 configuration.

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před 7 měsíci

      It can only access a single LFE channel, so it can’t send discrete signals to 4 subs. But it can handle up to a 9.1.6 setup sending direct signals to each channel.

  • @danoliver7161
    @danoliver7161 Před rokem

    Any plans to release this as an AppleTV app? I stream my Atmos content these days.

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      Hopefully one day. Stay Tuned! ;-)

  • @DescartesRenegade
    @DescartesRenegade Před rokem +1

    Would you recommend doing this with a 2.1 channel nearfield set up? Sub is in corner of room

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      It can work for that also. It can help if you have a channel imbalance caused by placement, or to check to ensure you have a cohesive blend with your sub.

    • @DescartesRenegade
      @DescartesRenegade Před rokem +1

      ​@@joentellI was always skeptical about how subs could ever be "quick" when the distance of it is further from me than the speakers. I've been chasing the synchrony for a while. I've always noticed the bass lagging. Dsp sounds like the solution!

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      @@DescartesRenegade Correct! The problem with most subs with DSP is they have an inherent delay. This is not an issue for home theater since that delay is accounted for. Most 2-channel systems don't have that capability. So yes, a MiniDSP product would do the trick.

  • @babymaker13th
    @babymaker13th Před 2 měsíci

    Why won’t this disk work with Panasonic do-ub820 player ??

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před 2 měsíci

      The disc will. The digital files won't.

  • @davidmckee2898
    @davidmckee2898 Před 7 měsíci

    Is this disc Multi region

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před 6 měsíci

      Yes, multi region or region free

  • @mrspikiespike4807
    @mrspikiespike4807 Před rokem

    Awe... that sucks, I can't find the timing test (I'am assuming it's number 4 cause thats the files missing). I purchased a downloaded version and not the physical BR version, maybe thats why its missing.

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem

      All the tracks should be there. Check your email to ensure you have the latest version. Join the Discord group also. We can help you there.

    • @mrspikiespike4807
      @mrspikiespike4807 Před rokem

      @@joentell I don't mean to be ruyd, but it's been a long week. Here is all that I have in my files when I extract the RAR file I downloaded way back on 27/12/22.
      M2TS Launch Files
      MKV Launch Files
      02 Call Outs
      03 Level Matching
      05 Crossover Points
      06 Speaker Pairs
      07 Tonal Balance
      08 Object Panning
      09 Torture Test
      010 Impulse Response
      011 Sweep Tests
      012 Periodic Pink Noise
      .DS_Store
      01 Intro Welcome
      04 Polarity Test 9.1.6

    • @joentell
      @joentell  Před rokem +1

      @@mrspikiespike4807 yes, email us. You have an older version. There's an updated download. czcams.com/users/livenJAZ-HyzrXc?feature=share

  • @crztrn1
    @crztrn1 Před rokem

    avr?
    im a rookie