Why Offsides Are Dying Out
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Every time VAR gives another marginal offside, the frustration is the same. A blurry freeze-frame, an imprecise line, and an attacker judged offside by millimetres.
It happens almost every week now, provoking the accusation that the offside law has been broken by VAR.
But the facts speak differently. Offsides are at an historic low and falling. Maybe that is why they are so frustrating now when they do happen? It feels more like an arbitrary imposition than it ever used to.
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No doubt Morata leaving England contributed to the drop in offsides rate đ
Lmao
*ROFL*
Morata totally bodied, absolute scenes lmaoooo
Seriously feel bad for him tbh
Morata hahaha, i laugh my arse at morata hahaha
Gun Master Morata has scored in all of his last 6 games
Ah Darren Bent, some say he's offside right now
some say he was born offside
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đđđ this is gold
Imagine filippo inzaghi with VAR
would still bang like 30 goals or so.
@@ManchesterBurns 100% right
Imagine Inzaghi appearing on The Athletic
imagine ronaldo with var, no more offside goals and free penalties and tapins
Blood Bath and Beyond - Pop Goes Metal Covers LOL
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This joke actuallt made me chuckle lol
I am, all of sudden, sad that the off-sides are dying out. DAMN your narration and music selection
first like. Just preparing for when this like hits the 2M mark.
@@sadinmostafamusad2577 gonna comment to see if that happens
I know ...why is this making me feel mournful for an era? Why am I caring about offsides all of a sudden
Me too, suddenly i felt sad
Offsides originally appeared on the Athletic
Athletic, originally appeared on the Athletic
Me: Who's Joe?
Tifo: Joe Momma originally appeared on the Athletic.
An actual good Athletic joke, well done
Something really interesting in football is that people talk about mid to late 2000âs as the glory years of pl football, but when you go back and watch the full matches, the tactical and technical quality in matches was so far lower than now. I watched an old game the other day where Man United beat Liverpool 2-0. It was around 10-15 years ago and my god the quality was rubbish, everything so forced and direct in the first phase of build up. Football is so much better now in terms of quality
exactly....but tbh, the passion of today;s players were not the same...you can feel it..I grew up in the 90's...people like Tony adams, lampard, gerrard,scholes and other footballing greats play with so much heart...and it really shows in their games...today's we have players like pogba, jorginho,auba who didnt really translate the passion of their clubs...you know what I mean? todays players were great but lack of something we used to see in the past..pardon my english, me not from england
Lion Heart youâve clearly never watched Jorginho
@@ciarjuan7968 LOL....
@@azhimahmad5652 you forgot to mention oliver kahn. The dude was beast.
@@azhimahmad5652 I think everyone thinks that about the footballers of his time compared to the footballers which were around when he grew up.
Offside is still the best rule in football. You couldnât imagine a game without offside.
nah, it'd be fun without that rule. you'd have cherry pickers but so what. both teams would do it.
@@nofurtherwest3474 It would kill the game. It'd he a shitshow
@@nofurtherwest3474 For ppl like you theres futsal
What about the handball rule? Imagine a game without itđ€Ł
Exactly!
Also, with the introduction of var, the linesmen are urged to let play continue even if the striker tends to be marginally offside. Most times the situation does not lead to a goal. This could also be a reason for lower offside numbers
This guy gets it.
except when they do score and the play is brought back to var and the guy after scoring finds out he was actually offside by a toe. sometimes a move is just perfect and var kills good goals.
@@RapperRank if he's offside by a toe, he is still offside. No matter how good it was played, the goal must not be allowed
No, they let play carry on initially, but if the play doesnât result in a goal, they will still call it.
But VAR is recent and the video showed offsides have been in decline even before VAR
When people say the offside law has been broken they don't mean that offside is being called more frequently, but there is a grey area 'where the ball has been played' and that VAR is imperfectly judging offside
Tommy Goldstraw lots of frames btw intent to pass and the ball leaving the foot
There is no "same level" anymore.
its not VAR who do the judgments afterall VAR is only a video, referees are the one who judge the game
The PL var refs are just shit. VAR is irritating at times even in la Liga and bundesliga but the refs are much better overall.
VAR just highlights how shit it has been. It has been shit all along :D
Any chance of a video about the tactics of Sheffield Unitedâs surprising start to the EPL Season?
Where did this originally come from? I didn't catch it in the video
It has a weird name, something like The Atlanta?
5:34 ... and that's the Burnley Way! Thumbs up for the Athletico Mince reference XD
You get less strikers playing off the shoulder of the last defender like Torres, Henry and the like these days
What do you mean by playing off the shoulder?
@@davidtogi5878 Its a term for when a striker plays his game on the offside line. Always trying to get in behind the defence by standing in line and trusting his speed. Standing shoulder to shoulder with the defenders as it were.
Nah the players run around more now , there much fitter
@@taz1231990 Run around supporting. Not much about being fit. More about modern tactical. Back then, there was two strikers and 4 midfielder. Right now, One striker and 3 midfielder. The striker right now is not required to make runs but supporting and holding the back. The wingers is the main goal scorer now. The wingers would be much further than current forwards.
True. I miss these kind of Strikers.
To be fair to the trend, attacking plays have started from the deep for about 15 years now. It's more of a shift in play-style, really. Center forwards have all but died out giving way to deep lying forwards and false nines which pull back defenders rather than play on the shoulder to the opposing defensive line. There are very few players in the mold of a Pippo Inzaghi or Gabriel Batistuta or a Ruud Van Nistelrooy anymore, and even then, their job is to draw the center halves out rather than actually score. Look at Giroud from the World Cup. He pretty much only had three or four golden chances to score throughout the tournament, unlike Baros in the Czech Republic's EURO 2004 adventure, who had about 12. Players are just getting used to new strategies and trends. Just you wait until the next center forward boom comes out and we'll see an uptick again.
Boring Name same with vardy even though he scored 10 goals so far under Rodgers heâs been making runs away from the goal that opens up space in the midfield for like James Maddison to have a shot
The concept of Offside originally appeared on The Athletic.
The game of football was created by the Athletic.
2:14 you put 2002 when it should be 2006 for henry
Accidentally mixing up 2s for 6s originally occurred on The Athletic
@@spethmanjones2997 bruh
Nixon Sanchez I hope you read that in a soft English accent
Spethman Jones lol
No doubt Alvaro Morata is still wondering what 'offside' means
Oh God been watching him since first Madrid days can confirm.
"Football has changed"
makes me sad everytime I hear it
5:58
kiwi-style
lmao
Liverpool still play a good offside trap.
Indeed. They're clearly taking advantage of the certainty VAR provides in this respect. Both their high line when in possession and free kick defence rely on it.
Love the Atletico minces reference (and thatâs the Burnley way)đ
What a great channel!!
Just stumbled across and found great videos questioning football and challenging the rules of the game. It's exciting to watch these videos ;)
Was Theirry Henry offside that many times in 2002 or 2006? because it's written 02 but said 06
France only played 3 games in 2002
SigurĂ°ur Freyr JĂłnatansson which means if it was 2002 thatâs a lot of offsides per game!
4:50 really tried to sneak Dan James in with the other superstars
Out of all your videos, I like the ones about tactics maybe the most. Football tactics is such a beautiful emergent phenomenon.
@@christophergerstle5000 well said!
I originally appeared on the Athletic
'The Golden Age of offside'. That's like the Golden Age of verrucas' or something. (Which coincidentally was also around the 80s/90s period). Great video, by the way,! Thanks for sharing!
Great Thank You for This Interesting investigation. Amazing work.
The game is evolving a break neck pace, so I look forward to when CZcams puts this in my feed in 9 years. At that time, the 4-4-2 will be back with onside traps along with bell bottoms and grunge music.
There is a cycle, an ebb and flow to all things except fans griping about their favorite sport. :)
Everything naturally improves with time. It would take a whole lot of dysfunctional people to believe the counterpart- people evolve and so do the things we do. No one purposefully does things worse the next day. This football is easily in my opinion better than the one 10 years ago, 10 more before that and so on. I firmly believe that Messi and CR are better footballers than Pele or Maradona ever were because the game improved as well. That is the beauty of humans, and with it entertainment including sports gives people something to admire. Thatâs why this sport is beautiful.
AV Gaming both of your comments are brilliant
@@avgaming4093 this is simply not true. those old arsenal/united teams would tear apart modern day arsenal and united. we like to pretend like man city and livepool are the only 2 teams playing football...
@@johnnyboi331 That's just because Arsenal and United have had a proper decline in quality on and off the pitch the last 10 years. Has nothing to do with the overall evolution of football.
@@TheSystemaSystem Its not like ufc though. football has alread evolved for 100s of years. just like boxing the improvements are extremely small every year. there is only so much the human body can do with a football. in mma the sport is new so the techniques are still being labbed out.
John McGinn of Villa runs in behind and has picked up a few goals doing so, difference is hes doing it from midfield.
How can you do a video on offsides without mentioning the rule change in the 1990s? It used to favour the defenders because being level counted as offside. It basically marks the beginning of the modern era where backpasses were banned.
VAR is a reversion back to the old days where the attack no longer gets the benefit of the doubt. A clear rule change is needed, it should be that your entire trailing foot must be past the line to be offside. The foot is a better guide and easier to monitor - same principles are used for throw ins and the goal line. VAR has basically given defenders an extra half yard of protection.
You guys are the masters of putting crazy titles then really making it not seem crazy at all
If Fillippo Inzaghi would have played in VAR-times, he would have scored 100 goals a season!!
And when I play PES Master League, Suarez is offside every damn timeđđ
or Ozil xD
Suarez isn't offside, it's his teeth that are offside
@@Hugh_Amungus
His teeth are offside. His teeth are offside.
Luis Suarez. His teeth are offside.
@Njabulo Zimu Why? Its fairly bad right now. Changed to Pes in 2018 and never came back to Fifa.
@Njabulo Zimu I can get those too with Option Files on Pes 20. For free too. FUT Icons is draw based right? Draw until you get one based on luck?
Know what also is dying?
Magazines. Online or not.
I think the biggest problem with the introduction of var is the fact that they said it was meant to be used for "clear and obvious" errors. However the offsides being called by var are showing such little fine details of the offside that no linesman in real time was ever gonna spot, meaning the error was neither clear no obvious. It defeats the whole purpose of what it was supposed to be brought in for
You have to appreciate the ellipsis on Darren Bent's quote before "is Jamie Vardy" đ
Spurs fan here, chuckling at the mention of Jermaine Defoe! My abiding memory of him is him being offside! haha
Ohhhh the dramatic piano music in the background. What an eerie offside feeling.
I said the words "Jamie Vardy" before I heard them đđ€Łđ
same here
I thought VAR is only used for âclear and obvious errorsâ if players are being adjudged offside by millimeters then how is that âclear or obviousâ. If it canât be determined within 30 seconds that a player is offside then it is not clear or obvious and therefore the on-field decision should stand.
No, offside is one of the parts of the game where there is (supposedly) an objective answer as to whether someone is offside or not. The 'clear and obvious' condition is for subjective decisions (like fouls).
However, I would quite like it if 'clear and obvious' was used for offsides, as you suggest. The thing with that though is that linesmen wouldn't flag the marginal calls for fear of distracting the defence, so they will not flag for offsides as often, meaning there will probably be a lot of technically offside goals being scored. But if it's the same for everyone, perhaps no one will feel particularly aggrieved by it (except Sean Dyche, who is aggrieved by literally everything).
I personally take issue with the a person's shoulder being the measure of whether or not they're offside. When was the last time you ever saw someone score a goal with their shoulder? I don't know why they don't use the part of the body that they strike the ball with. If your feet are onside and you kick the ball, kinda feels harsh to be called off because your armpit is. It would also be a lot easier for VAR to check if a head/foot is onside rather than shoulders/knees.
"Clear and obvious" are not decided based on the difficulty of the problem. It's based on the objectiveness of the problem. And offside calls are some of the most basic decisions in the game just like goalline calls, it's extremely clear whether or not a play is offside, the only reason why certain decisions take longer than they should is because of the technology not providing the perfect angle.
Offside isnât judged on clear and obvious because itâs a black and white issue.
Terrific analysis yet again.
i love this channel the voice over is so assured
Your videos are absolutely brilliant.
Slight error in your graphic at Thierry Henry. Narration says 2006 but graphic says 2002. Keep up the great content!
Never thought I would see a luton shirt and an AC milan shirt on the same slide
Loving the videos
Please do the tactics of Marcelo Gallardo of River Plate
Your request was fulfilled!
Never thought we would be looking back nostalgically at offsides one day
I think the biggest frustration with VAR isnât necessarily when they get decisions correct, but when they take forever to get the decision right. Another problem is they are getting more and more decisions bizarrely wrong.
Do a video on how the language barrier is over come at football clubs with multiple nationalities.
I watched every home game for my team in Sweden and I would always be caught of guard by an offside because they almost never happen
Its amazing how much it has changed really
Good video. Though I think the response to the frustration at VAR offside calls is misplaced; the issue isn't with the frequency of offside calls, but with the seemingly minuscule criteria applied (hence the appeal for a 'daylight' rule). It is interesting that offside calls are decreasing, but I think the frustration is with what is necessary for a player to be offside and the officials drawing up the lines for adjudication.
Bent doesn't seem to know about Dortmund and Messi...
they talk about premier league only
Damn good video! This channel will always be an inspiration for me.
is offside originally brought by the atlethic?
Good video!
6:10 that dig at Bobby seemed a bit unnecessary without any following context haha
That's not a dig a Bobby, it's a compliment more than anything. He's saying that Wood isn't as technically gifted as Firmino
If you need to draw a line between the player's arm and the ground to tell if they're offside, the benefit they're getting from being offside is essentially nil.
Itâs not the quantity of offside decisions but rather the quality of offside decisions. We are seeing VAR rule out goals with camera stills and angles that do not definitively show a player has strayed off. They show the grainy picture from a slanted angle and draw a couple of line to suggest that he looks like he may be offside. The rule needs a change if it is to work alongside VAR.
Can u make a video about utility players in the European league? Their importance, the different styles & usage.
Your voice is the resonant frequency of my room.
VAR's failure is ultimately down to human error.
luka jovic was literally a toe nail off like if you have to use var to see if a player is a toe nail off something is gone wrong. its brilliant for clear offsides that are missed but i think at a certain point you just have to admire the reaction quickness and wit of an attack to make a move like that. i mean some goals that are rules of are brilliantly worked goals only to be given a fucking toe offside.
Guido Burgstaller. Master of the Offside
I have to admit I wouldn't have guessed this was a trend. As a Liverpool fan, it makes it even more suprising seeing our high offside trap this season. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
In some cases like Napoli Vs Atalanta, Players now too much rely on VAR even though referees said play on and they still wait ball to out of field so they can ask the ref to use VAR. While at it they lost consentration on the defense and cost them conceded a goal.
I've always wanted to see a high level game played without the offsides rule, just to see what it would look like. It may not be the free for all you'd think. After all, players in the NBA don't just cherry pick all game because then their team would be short a defender. Such things usually work themselves out within the natural flow of the game even without a dedicated rule.
Pippo Inzaghi: đą
"People dont do that as much anymore, running in behind"
Meanwhile vardy is leading leauge in goals
The exception proves the rule.
I still think that attackers that love to run in behind like Vardy, Inzaghi, are the worst kind of attacker that I have to face as a defender..
They force us to focus not only on what's in front of us, but also their movements, once we thought that their movements are useless and let them have their way by not sticking to them, they'll have a 1-on-1 chance with goalie..
The video literally points out that Vardy is an unique character in modern football in that he's still effectively running in behind and consistently scoring goals...
Very nice content
Let's not forget that also VAR ist contributing to that decrease at offsides: assistant referees are less riskily willing to lift up the flag knowing that VAR would eventually stop an illegal goal
AC in the 90s played clockwork offside almost the same as the Netherlands 74
that's the closest i'm gonna get to see a Luton Town shirt next to an AC Milan shirt haha ffs.
also, i'm absolutely loving the "originally appeared in the athletic" memes haha
âand thatâs the Burnley wayâ thats a nice comment isnât it Andrew
I can hardly agree. Many teams (e.g. teams playing with high defence) still use off-side trap, although usually younger or less skilled players get caught. And there are some offensive players who are off-side line masters. E.g. Lewandowski is almost never off-side, when he's receiving a pass.
5:20 *Deulofeu
The pot shots at Burnley originally appeared on the Athletic
The big bang originally occurred on the athletic
1994 Milan was coached by Capello not Saachi.
It's just a fantasy that football, and everything else in life, is always getting better and better. It just isn't. As good as this channel is, it's completely wedded to the idea that modern football is this amazing revolutionary never before seen thing. But it's equally true to say 'there's nothing new under the sun'.
You can also say that teams now park the bus a lot, so no space for runs
Do teams still utilize an offside trap?
This was in my recommendation after Chelsea's vs Manchester United VAR.
But all of this is also the reason for why it feels like they get it wrong so many times: these throughballs are only played if they are a great opportunity, so you could say that these fewer offsides are far more impactfull
Interesting. This would probably explain some of the defensive struggles that West Ham experience as one of the teams whose tactics is centred around playing the offside trap. We concede so many clear cut chances because the opposition keep getting behind our defence. Playing such a high line with low quality defenders is suicide especially with a keeper like Roberto.
going back and watching any champions league final from over a decade ago is really unsettling. Compared to modern football it looks absolutely chaotic, like they're playing hot potato out there. Milan vs. United comes to mind especially, I swear my neck muscles were getting a workout swinging left to right and back to left again as balls kept getting spammed back and forth. It looks primitive, as if they had the tactical creativity of schoolboys. But the thing is, it was genius in its own way and it worked.
Happened again today, Tottenham v Sheffield United
7:53 Invention of parking the bus
Chris Wood - an old fashioned, kiwi-style, centre-forward.
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I've always hated the way offside is implemented. The original idea was to prevent attackers from goal hanging (like kinds in a playground match) but the rule was exploited by canny defensive coaches to become a trap (I think of George Graham's Arsenal). I've always argued that there would be far fewer offsides & more exciting attacking play if the rule was that there had to be clear daylight between the attacker & defender. As in the attacker was given the benefit of the doubt & had to be clearly past the last defender & it was not judged by fractions of a millimeter (was it Son the other day who was adjudged to have his armpit offside?). Of course, wherever you draw the line it's going to be up to the linesman to make the decision & people will disagree with their calls but at least if the player had to be clearly ahead of the last defender & not just have a tow or nose crossing that line, then the linesmen are likely to be more consistent & the game would become more attack-oriented.
The famous AC Milan triumph over the Barcelona Dream Team was led by Capello, Sacchi. Was that mistake in the original article on The Athletic?
Yeah they donât run in behind and they donât bend there runs either anymore like Robbie Keane and Kevin Phillips used to do so well
This history originally appeared OFFSIDE on the Athletic
Barcelona used to pass in the direction of a player obviously offside, but the ball would be picked up by a onside player. Is that now considered offside or is it fine to do that?
Not sure about that one... As example, Liverpool are playing the Offsidd Trap for a few years now and it works brilliantly. Also the VAR intorduction helps them, because Offside gets called a lot more accuratly
liverpool play deeper when playing against better teams.
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