Observers: What is the processing of things?

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024

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  • @NadaAlawadhi
    @NadaAlawadhi Před 2 lety +85

    “Don’t choose the wrong portal” That was such a good explanation of our struggles!

    • @Feltara
      @Feltara Před 2 lety +9

      @Caiden Portal 2 is the correct Portal.

    • @Feltara
      @Feltara Před 2 lety +1

      @Caiden I see you learned from your mistakes.

  • @sirbradfordofhousejones
    @sirbradfordofhousejones Před 2 lety +52

    Daniel is such a great example of an ENFP- it’s not happy fairy land, sometimes the inferior Si takes hold.

    • @Partor6
      @Partor6 Před 2 lety +1

      Why were Dave and Shannon discussing Ni in his case then? what did they type him eventually ? (I also think he is ENFP)

    • @MrLuigiFercotti
      @MrLuigiFercotti Před 2 lety +4

      He's English, so he's probably going to be somewhat repressed. 😒

  • @SuperCuriouss
    @SuperCuriouss Před 2 lety +34

    It's about the fear of life slipping by and trying to get the most out of life. Ne tries to maximise life experiences, Ni tries to optimise life experiences (life efficiency, to reach the perfect pinnacle, the singularity of a perfectly integrated life, maybe nirvana). Yes, I'm an ENTP, don't talk to me about what Sally did or said, I don't care.

    • @MrLuigiFercotti
      @MrLuigiFercotti Před 2 lety +3

      "...don't talk to me about what Sally did or said, I don't care." LOL ~ESTP

    • @kindauncool
      @kindauncool Před rokem

      +@@MrLuigiFercotti Excellent use of quotation grammar.

  • @austinbodiford6360
    @austinbodiford6360 Před 2 lety +23

    Holy crap. 😵 yes. Can relate with the last clip. I don't understand how some people just "see" others "doing things" so personally to them. I'm not aware of people threats. I've got to sit and think about why it may seem someone is upset. Life feels more like a variety of black holes and traps and you have to navigate to safe places and exert energy thru time spans.
    Like even as I'm writing, I'm thinking about the times when I get a sense that I might have done something wrong or pissed someone off. And that's when anxiety may come. Not from the fear of people, but it's like when you interact with someone that speaks a different language and you see that you have offended them and then you have to figure how to sign to them, "I mean you no harm. I come in peace. Even I don't know what I'm saying. Me. Friend. Me sorry. Want friendship. ET phone home"✌

    • @cyberneticbutterfly8506
      @cyberneticbutterfly8506 Před 2 lety +4

      Humans talk past eachother most of the time. Evne when we don't the venn diagram of understanding is only overlapping like 80% when we think it's 100.

    • @orangeziggy348
      @orangeziggy348 Před rokem

      @@cyberneticbutterfly8506 I like "the Venn diagram of understanding".

  • @MrLuigiFercotti
    @MrLuigiFercotti Před 2 lety +15

    EPs do realize that everything is not changing that much as time passes.
    And it eventually drives us fkng insane.

    • @ValleyCat13
      @ValleyCat13 Před 2 lety +1

      and that's when it drives you so crazy you decide you need to make a big change for yourself? (like move to a new state/country because ugh stagnation)

    • @MrLuigiFercotti
      @MrLuigiFercotti Před 2 lety +1

      @@ValleyCat13 Probably, but not always in a healthy way. Of course, if you're healthy, you will not let yourself get so damn stuck.

  • @siunkii
    @siunkii Před 5 měsíci +1

    I heard "bulletproof lemon" and MAN that is indeed exciting

  • @synnegraven-sneltorp3682
    @synnegraven-sneltorp3682 Před 2 lety +15

    That's funny. Husband (single observer) has always been the most mad at me (single observer) when I act wrongly in relation to THINGS. What I say is not a that big of a deal. It is how I (fail to) act in relation to the THINGS that hurts him the most. I also take those angry outbursts the most personally of all😂

    • @cyberneticbutterfly8506
      @cyberneticbutterfly8506 Před 2 lety +2

      My old mother is always freaked out about how my father is making a messy mine out of our property slowly building stuff over years cause she is obviously seeing how that affects how we look in the neighbourhood.
      My father freaks out about her telling him how the *things* outside should be and what he needs to do with the *things* on the property.

    • @kindauncool
      @kindauncool Před rokem

      You're both double deciders?

  • @TheNicMMc
    @TheNicMMc Před 2 lety +7

    Being single observer sounds nice. You don’t ever have to worry about people screwing you over.

    • @uvnzmw
      @uvnzmw Před rokem +4

      Not true, we worry about people too. Obviously.

    • @TheNicMMc
      @TheNicMMc Před rokem +5

      @@uvnzmw but you do far better at judging others on who is your friend vs enemy, but with single deciders that are Ixxp, we always assume everyone is our enemy. We just don't have that good sense of judgment when it comes to people hence we have problems with it comes to social interaction.

    • @madlynlithasya
      @madlynlithasya Před měsícem

      i do think that i can be very “forgiving” in a sense. when i tell stories about how my last relationship ended (the guy cheated on me), people would say all bad things about him all while, im still friends with him lol

  • @entropy8000
    @entropy8000 Před 2 lety +4

    Interesting choice of words but its so fascinating how Shannon had to process as a decider, its no wonder why we misunderstand the people around us when we don't have these ways to classify others and gain awareness of the causes and conditions that shape a persons decisions and choices

  • @robschwartz9370
    @robschwartz9370 Před 2 lety +24

    For me it feels more like “possibilities” or “probabilities” that shut down. Pretty sure I’m Ne lead.
    Do you Ni’s feel it’s a portal- like a single door that can close.
    and do other Ne’s like me feel it’s possibilities/options (like trimming a tree and losing 100’s of possible leaves with one cut?
    The thought of losing tons of options at once is the scariest to me.

    • @Partor6
      @Partor6 Před 2 lety +10

      For me often the fact that I see too many possibilities is what makes my life miserable (ENFP) because I wanna do too many stuff at once in my head but I don't wanna choose the wrong one, which leads me to not choose at all sometimes... and my mind's response to this dilemma is creating even more possibilities... yay xD

    • @talorix
      @talorix Před 2 lety +2

      @@Partor6 me too, me too :(

    • @orangeziggy348
      @orangeziggy348 Před rokem +1

      @@Partor6 Exactly!

    • @kindauncool
      @kindauncool Před rokem

      It's a portal and if I miss it, it closes forever and it destroys me inside and I know I probably shouldn't freak out like that, but I do. Then a new one opens (always) and even though that always happens I still don't learn to not freak the fuck out.

  • @josephbraun8211
    @josephbraun8211 Před rokem

    The portal analogy was so spot on!

  • @SimpleAmadeus
    @SimpleAmadeus Před rokem +5

    Okay this is messing me up. I've sort of had myself narrowed down as an IxxP, which is a decider, but this "I have to pick the right path thing" is always dominating my way of thinking. Yet, at the same time, it seems that my biggest hurdle in life is that I do not want to be dependent on other people. All my self-sabotaging big decisions in life have centered around trying to avoid tribe dependence, which has led me to be on my own versus the world (ironically the same outcome that the dreaded betrayal would result in) which seems like a very "De as bottom function" type of deal. I don't know maybe I'm just a single observer, single decider, extra broken case.

  • @grumpyschnauzer
    @grumpyschnauzer Před 2 lety +16

    Feeling like my movie of life is ending and having no idea what happens after the rolling credits. Constantly questioning if I’m on the “right” path or if I need to make a radical switch. Massive shifts in life does feel like dying.

  • @rationaloptimist4959
    @rationaloptimist4959 Před 2 lety +17

    Are ideas, even if its about people= processing of things? I usually see people as abstractions at times, and I use experiences(direct or indirect) as raw materials to shape---and reshape my worldview and processing tool mechanisms.

  • @QRondei
    @QRondei Před 2 lety +6

    My personal terminology seems to reflect these concepts in terms of "Trajectories" and "Windows". I'm very much processing those all the time (I suspect I'm an Ni-Fi INTJ). I consider "people" to be generally good, incompetent at worst, but not malicious per se.

  • @itch1428
    @itch1428 Před 2 lety +2

    luv the new cut, dave

  • @dylonias
    @dylonias Před 2 lety +3

    Dave once said we're all just Deciders. Things are just there for us to play the self/tribe game. All Observer freakouts are really about people

    • @talorix
      @talorix Před 2 lety +2

      I think he said that about people in their young adult years bc it's often the time when people feel the need to stabilise their identity

    • @dylonias
      @dylonias Před 2 lety +2

      @@talorix I think people have psychosocial needs their whole lives that constantly update. The info is only as good as what you use it for

    • @talorix
      @talorix Před 2 lety +1

      @@dylonias definitely, but with this terminology it's complicated to say that observer freakouts are about people... Because they use it in a more narrow sense. I could agree that someone freaking about their phone not working is actually freaking about feeling left out somehow, but it's much broader and calmer then a decider freaking about one person being angry at them or smth like that

    • @dylonias
      @dylonias Před 2 lety

      @@talorix sure sure, that makes sense. I guess I mean that it's a decent way of looking at Observer freakouts. Cause you can use them to practice the specific Decider problem it's based on. This is coming from a guy who's broken a lot of phone/computer screens in "Observer freakouts" that were really just about Fi

  • @philosopherlogic
    @philosopherlogic Před 2 lety +2

    INTJ engaged to INTP. How him and I process crypto are insanely different. That Bitcoin analogy is spot on. That's why he's incharge of our crypto wallets lmao.

  • @a.n.a.6
    @a.n.a.6 Před 2 lety +5

    The edits at the end always kill me lol

  • @dylonias
    @dylonias Před 2 lety +4

    Dan needed a rocket to open up his portal

  • @talorix
    @talorix Před 2 lety +3

    Dave's funny remarks in this video are on point. It pains me to say it bc it makes me cringe, but he's completely right

    • @kindauncool
      @kindauncool Před rokem

      Wait sorry which is it? Saying he's right makes you cringe? Saying people are right makes you cringe? Him being right makes you cringe? His funny remarks make you cringe?

  • @michaelbindner9883
    @michaelbindner9883 Před 2 lety +4

    Oe provides options to the tribe, not the self. Ni manages options for the self. Sensory is things. Intuition is ideas and plans. This is why ENTJs are so self-centered and use their Te to enforce procedures (often for their own advantage). ENTP uses Ne to give options to the tribe (outside the box thinking) with Ti in service to that purpose as a change agent rather than simply regurgitating tribal dogma.

    • @robschwartz9370
      @robschwartz9370 Před 2 lety

      Hey @michael, excellent insights. I think you just helped me see some more of the patterns. Do you know your type?

    • @michaelbindner9883
      @michaelbindner9883 Před 2 lety

      @@robschwartz9370 ENTP

    • @talorix
      @talorix Před 2 lety

      It might be that way for ENTJs, but it doesn't have to be... There were some great leaders and system builders who fought oppression and were ENTJs, yes, they are mostly close-minded once they focus on something, but if that something benefits a lot of people who have similar identity it can be beneficial

    • @endgamez7621
      @endgamez7621 Před 2 lety

      arent they de - why would it be for themselves?

    • @michaelbindner9883
      @michaelbindner9883 Před 2 lety

      @@endgamez7621 because they are observing the tribe's for their selves to validate or inform Fi.

  • @yeeunhwang8476
    @yeeunhwang8476 Před 2 lety +8

    Is this just me or this video has an auto Vietnamese subtitle 🙄

  • @xodroraccoon
    @xodroraccoon Před 2 lety +10

    Could you make a video of you guys giving your honest opinion on cognitive functions tests (sakirnova, keys2cog nition,typologycentral),cuz they seem to type very robotically yet people find them rather accurate? F.e I always score lowest on Te and highest on Ne so its kind of difficut to interpret any result(i think that goes for many).

    • @endgamez7621
      @endgamez7621 Před 2 lety

      my te= ti and my se=ni and im an istp lmfao using one of those cog tests

  • @rachelp.8462
    @rachelp.8462 Před 2 lety +3

    Still trying to fully understand what the observer freakout is, regardless of oe/oi it seems the fear is "pathways" (?) opening/closing so the fire alarm moment is being boxed in with no way out? But it also seems observers are not only freaked out by systems but sensory objects themselves, like an actual bulletproof limo. This sort of clarified but would love to hear more.

    • @anahrsak4793
      @anahrsak4793 Před 2 lety

      as a self-typed observer (ExxP) with Si last, i never organize, i struggle to plan and think ahead, and my "freakout" is every few weeks when this bites me in the ass. It's very literal, like my room is always a mess so i can't find books for school, i have trouble getting started with my school projects so i always do them last minute...

  • @TheSnugglery
    @TheSnugglery Před 2 lety +2

    Observer literally only watching stock stuff and this 🤣

  • @o_enamuel
    @o_enamuel Před rokem

    "People are just NPCs" Dave wanned to have said

  • @orangeziggy348
    @orangeziggy348 Před rokem

    Things (Environment/Experiences) as portals. versus People as portals (Quantum Leap)

  • @kkkk1246
    @kkkk1246 Před 2 lety +1

    The funny thing is I thought I was an infj but when I found your chanell I turned out be an istp.

    • @LittleMew133
      @LittleMew133 Před rokem +1

      I thought I was a mutated INFJ then I realized I just jumped my Fe 2nd function. So I get to be socially awkward and unemphatetic like everyone else yay.

  • @NaomiIris
    @NaomiIris Před 2 lety +5

    I think you obsess more about the opening pathways when you’re blast first observer rather than a sleep consume

    • @talorix
      @talorix Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, but if you are blast last once you got hit by that choice you are shook to your core since you didn't even have the motivation to do it not the energy but you realise you should have and then you're left with a pretty irrational miserable feeling

  • @orangeziggy348
    @orangeziggy348 Před rokem

    Any one else watching this who is not an observer and has a big question mark on their face? Portals going up or down, closing, opening- what weird science fiction novel are observers living in? Look at Shan's facial expressions, that is how I feel.

  • @kr-666
    @kr-666 Před 2 lety +8

    what the hell was that Ne nonsense at the end of the video lol

  • @01234cinco
    @01234cinco Před 2 lety

    Somewhat strange. I wonder if the girl I just followed knows about this video. If she does, that’s kinda 🐍 mart.

  • @joyandpeacefullaughter5307

    What's type is the other guy on the chair?

  • @xodroraccoon
    @xodroraccoon Před 2 lety +3

    Hi

  • @jk.studios
    @jk.studios Před 2 lety

    what was that end haha

  • @youdontgotoldjoeybidentoki3483

    Do you want to know why Dave calls himself 'DaveSuperPowers?' Well its because one of his super powers is being an INTJ.
    As INTJs, we ARE excellent. Our type is the manifestation of the excellence. We are the Kings of the personality jungle. An INTJ is a brand new BMW. Every other type is a 2003 Chevy Impala that was previously owned by a smoker. We are rare. But desired. An INTJ solving a problem is like a lion stalking a pack of Giselle. He analyzes, he collects his thoughts, then tears the living **** out of it with his impeccable thinking process. I like to call us the 'Disciples of Darwin.' We are the top of the MBTI food chain. When an INTJ makes an argument, he thinks to himself "why/how could I be wrong?" He almost always, however, finds that he's correct because he's simply playing 5D chess, while every other type is playing checkers. Many believe that INTJs don't know how to "let loose" and "have fun." However, he is absolutely having fun. He finds pleasure in critiquing and deconstructing everything and everyone in his environment.

    • @oOneszaOo
      @oOneszaOo Před 2 lety +15

      you're not an INTJ, are you?

    • @dday9433
      @dday9433 Před 2 lety +18

      I'm going to assume your sarcasm and enjoy it because the alternative is too damn irritating to encourage.

    • @xodroraccoon
      @xodroraccoon Před 2 lety +3

      @@SailorSiFi thats what i thought XD

    • @xodroraccoon
      @xodroraccoon Před 2 lety +4

      How long have you been prepearing this hahahahhaha

    • @Owlsworthy
      @Owlsworthy Před 2 lety +16

      INTJ is not to be confused with Narcissism.

  • @chossenone9508
    @chossenone9508 Před 2 lety +2

    I think I'm estp probably
    and I used to think I'm dom Ni

    • @chossenone9508
      @chossenone9508 Před 2 lety +1

      could I be Ne dom
      that's why I think like this ?

    • @sybrandwoudstra9236
      @sybrandwoudstra9236 Před 2 lety

      Just go look at the tidal wave video's they made.

    • @chossenone9508
      @chossenone9508 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sybrandwoudstra9236 I have been around this content for a year and half

  • @kristoffdawn6030
    @kristoffdawn6030 Před 2 lety

    I didn't know harry Potter is a rapper

  • @mws12345
    @mws12345 Před 2 lety

    Hey Dave, Just a reminder you got Carl Jung's type wrong. How does it feel to be doing this for years and you can't even accurately type the man who started it. Well anyway limitations of being INTJ and all... have a day or whatever....