Top 10 Best Supporter Cards of All Time in Pokemon TCG
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- Ever since their introduction in the 2002 Booster set “Expedition”, Supporter cards have played a key role throughout the history of the Pokémon TCG. Whether it might be drawing cards, powering up your Pokémon, or disrupting your opponent, they’re a key part of any deck’s strategy.
In this video we will take a look at the 10 best Supporter cards and how they impacted the given time that they were introduced in.
Script by Rahul Reddy
Edited by Lily
The List
Intro: (0:00)
10. Colress’s Experiment: (0:16)
9. Lusamine: (1:27)
8. Marnie: (2:18)
7. LT Surge's Strategy: (3:16)
6. Stevens Advice: (5:02)
5. Prof Juniper/Sycamore/Research: (5:52)
4. Welder: (6:46)
3. Boss’s Orders/Lysandre: (7:56)
2. N/Rocket’s Admin: (8:54)
1. Lysandre's Trump Card: (9:49)
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I can't stop laughing at the art of Steven's Advice. They just slapped the official art on top of an actual photo of a window. LOL
95% of Ken Sugimori card 😂
A lot of supporter art is like this lol
The tag team supporters are really funny, Guzma & Hala in particular
A common feature on most “Ken Sugimori” (and also “Yusuke Ohmura”) cards, particularly post-e-Series.
It’s how they keep costs down by utilising already existing assets (in principle no different to how reprints of many YGO and MtG cards don’t have new artwork made).
@@DaneeBound eh... except for popular mtg and ygo cards, which sometimes get alt artworks
@@nmr7203 yes, but getting a proper backround AND a alt art. is definetively miles better than being too lazy to even draw a mere backround image for a card artwork
7:56 Fun fact: this type of effect we call a “gust” effect in the PTCG. Named after the Gust of Wind Trainer card from the original Base Set.
Prior to Lysandre’s introduction, the closest there was to a some-what reliable gusting card in standard were Pokémon Reversal and Pokémon Catcher (post-errata), which both needed a successful coin-toss to resolve the effect.
I wish it stayed this way. Not flipping coin for a gusting is way too powerful and we dealing with this mess for a long time 😞
@@Kostyurik The pre-errata Pokémon Catcher was busted, I agree. Getting up to four reliable gusts up on a single turn was crazy. The erratum on Catcher and the hard once-per-turn restriction on Lysandre/Boss’s Orders does more than enough to balance that effect, while keeping the game interactive.
a bit dissapointed that Colress (not experiement) didn't get a spot, by itself it can easily get you 8, 9 or 10 cards hand refreshes. but it really shines with sky field, getting up to 16 cards hands, althogh usually something around 12 is the most common in my experience.
I second this. Colress would at least be an honorable mention with how strong of a shuffle draw card it is in any format it is available in
I was thinking colress and ghetsis both deserved a spot. I'd replace Marnie with those two
@@atsaniindigo4843 Did it have a huge effect in BW era though?
I'd like to nominate Colress (not his experiment) and Pokémon Collector as two supporter cards that are so strong at what they do that I honestly doubt they'll ever be reprinted again. Colress being able to shuffle draw for really large hands in most games is a powerful effect, even outside of sky field decks. Pokémon Collector allowing you to search your deck for three basics and put them in your hand would have been in nearly every deck during the times that Shaymin EX, Dedenne GX, Tapu Lele GX, Finneon V, Eldegoss V and Crobat V have been legal, since being able to search for them while also setting up your other basics is crazy good. The fact that every Pokémon-search supporter has been weaker than Pokémon Collector since then is a testament to how strong that effect would be today.
Profesor Oak and Gust of Wind (Boss's orders) are as old as the game itself.
There werent supporters back then though, and oak never saw a reprint before juniper. Gust of wind was eventually succeeded by catcher though
I would have Skyla as 11 or Cynthia as 11 myself. Skyla let's you have an additional 4 copies of any Trainer card in your deck and let's you tutor out major combo or defensive pieces in a pinch, and Cynthia lets you get a fresh hand without losing major pieces. Both are amazing.
Cynthia should've been in the TOP-10 itself, probably at 2nd place, not as 11 🙂
Skyla was strong relative to the format it was in, but it was in a format where supporters were seen as week. The main reason to use was to gain access to Ace Spec cards like G-Booster and Computer Search.
I'd like to nominate Archie's Ace in the Hole (as well as Maxie, obviously) for having been clearly a game-warping card, allowing for broken, astonishing, although a little gimmicky at first glance, combo plays.
And there's also Hex Maniac who can just destroy your opponent strategy completely, so yeah, that also might have been worth a spot.
Who else remembers the old days when you had a Blastoise on field and needed to deal 70 damage for game, and you'd drop as many Bills and Oaks as you needed to draw through your deck for 5 water energies and a pluspower? The old game was so broken
The format back then was actually quite slow, as you don't want to burn valuable resources. Playing like that would cause you to deck out most of the time.
Surprised you didn't bring up Cyrus's Conspiracy. The very reason why SP decks were so broken. There's also Colress and Seeker as well. Lysandre's Trump Card wouldn't have been nearly as broken as is it was were it not for Vs Seeker being in the same format.
Yeah, but... it was.
To be fair, that also has to account for something, not only by measuring the impact of the card in that specific format, but also by verifying what kind of broken stuff it can generate -which, in this case, was coincidental.
@@ciciuk3695 Even with that Lysandre Seeker Combo it still wasn't seen as that bad. Even I played it as a tech card in the set prior to it's ban, because it was the only way to check a Night March deck. As this video pointed out what really put things over the edge was Shaymin EX in the following set.
Really digging these videos, looking forward to watching each one. I like how in this case you demonstrated supporters that shared either similar or identical effects despite being printed under different names or during different eras; this last is noteworthy because it is not always easy to connect one supporter to another with functionally the same effect due to phrasing differences between eras and printings.
Have you thought about making a video about the top Prime cards? they're pretty niche I suppose, but very interesting :)
Nice video as always. Top 10 tag team cards.
Marnie was a direct upgrade over stuffs like judge, it would guarantee you to not draw same hand. Probably not a thing if you play online but when you play irl, you often draw same cards when you tried to fix your hand.
Also I find welder is funny, the other energy acceletator supporter from that era only attach one energy and only on benched stage 2 pokemon, then we have welder that just casually attach 2 fire anywhere and then lets you draw 3.
Guzma is another card similar to Boss’ Orders that’s just really good. Having both a retreat and gust on the same card is just so powerful.
This would've been cool as a top 20, as I feel like there's a lot of cards that could've been on here that weren't:
Wally, Ace Trainer, Judge, Maxie’s Hidden Ball Trick, Archie's Ace In The Hole, Hex Maniac, Colress, Cythnia, Professor Kukui, and AZ/Acerola could all easily be top 20
would love to see a video focused on Pokemon's unlimited format
As someone who stopped playing the tcg around when Neo Genesis came out, it's interesting to see that a lot of the busted early cards are still in the game, but redesigned as supporters. I would have guessed they would be gone entirely, but I guess the game is healthy enough to have them still, even if they are limited.
Guzma not getting a spot is pretty odd since it's considered in most expanded decks to be a strict upgrade to Boss' Orders. Item cards like switch see way less play because Guzma does that for you in the same way that N has a dual function for drawing and disruption.
Pokémon Ranger would be an honorable mention for me, it is a staple in any serious expanded deck, and it is the single reason to why ADP and Mew3 with Jolteon and Glaceon don't completely dominate the format.
Your channel is outstanding !
I believe Guzma is a more flexible boss and regular Colress could probably be over experiment.
Guzma can kinda screw you up if you have bench, Lysandre is much more flexible in its usage.
Personal taste would say Guzma over Lysander, and a mention of AZ somewhere, but then again the list is so clouded it’s hard to fit good replies! Awesome list!
Guzma is better than boss since it also gives you a switch
Well sometimes you don't want to switch. And the switch for the user isn't optional, last time I checked.
More likely than not, now a days, you don't want to switch. Guzma requires you to switch. It's why switch is better than escape rope in the majority of situations.
would rather have Guzma as well, added more depth than just gust what you want
Guzma is only better than Boss's orders in a format with float stone, or with very specific situations. In expanded it is usually preferred over Boss because it doubles as a way out of Snorlax against control decks.
alot of times, what on bench should stay on bench, technically you can cheat guzma by not adding any bench before using it (it would still gust your opponent but you won't switch because there is nothing on bench) but simple gust effect is much more versatile than guzma's gust switch
Belleba & Brycen-Man #1 in my heart
Quick note on Marnie: Marnie is very good because: 1) Hand disruption is rare and powerful effect. Whether you put your opponent's hand at the bottom of their deck isn't as important. You want to drop Marnie when your opponent has a large hand, or has been setting up some cards they need for a combo in their hand. Marnie especially wrecks Lost Mine decks, for example. 2) Separate from disruption, it is just a decent way to cycle through your deck without discarding resources. 3) The risk that your opponent COULD have a Marnie forces you to play differently. It forces you to try to not end your turn with a big hand or a half-done combo.
How does Kiawe not make this list? It outright broke the metagame, making the Mega Mewtwo/Turtonator GX deck OP.
You should do "10 best abusers of Double Colorless Energy of all time"
"Boss' Order" is so useful that even the less powerful "Pokemon Catcher" (which requires a coin-flip) is worth the added risk of failure for the chance to use it possibly multiple times (especially in an already Supporter heavy deck).
It really depends on if you're talking absolute power or how common they were in the meta at the time. For example, every draw supporter becomes a meta staple when there's no draw 7 professor or N, but just because a certain supporter dominates a meta with weaker supporter options doesn't necessarily mean it's strong overall.
i miss guzma but verry cool vid!!!
I would have love to see a shout out to my Boi Guzma! He deserve a spot or at least a mention with the Boss Order spot :D damm I abused that card in sun and moon format.
Before lysandre there was the original printing of pokemon catcher, which was busted af and they had to change it into a coin flip effect to then make the original effect into the supporter card lysandre
The funny thing about Pokémon Catcher is that when it was first released, Pokémon Reversal was legal, which is functionally identical to post-errata Catcher.
With Catcher, they basically "reprinted" Gust of Wind, which is a card that Reversal is intended to be a balanced version of, and then a few years later they issued an errata for Catcher making it the new Reversal.
I remember being done by one prize because pikarom player took out my volcanion in reshazard. Lt surge double welder and two turns of manual attaching double blaze knock out on pikarom. They did between 210-260 on the clap back and then it was outrage for game
Keep the good work.
I think I would have put guzma instead of Lysander since it gave you a switch as well as a gust, but other than that it's great!
Mom's Kindness is a huge omitment from this list
I was furious that it wasn't included.
Surprised guzma isn’t on her but boss’s orders is
I feel Guzma deserves at least an honorable mention, being considered a better version of lysandre back when both were in standard at the same time
Yes! Guzma should be above any of the toxic combo supporters. Guzma is literally played over Boss in expanded for good reason.
Please do a video on "The Top 5 Ditto Cards"
You'll be surprised at how many cool twists you can get on "Ditto as a card". There's 27 Ditto cards in total, 24 unique cards, and 14 real choices (there's 11 Ditto cards that belong in a single entry)
6:30 Professor's Research has been around since the Wizard of the Coast era of Pokemon TCG. The card Professor Oak did that.
The original 'Professor Oak' card was not a supporter card.
@@federicodc that's because Supporter cards didn't exist in the Wizards era. Back then, it was a Support card that functioned just like modern Item cards.
@@CyberAngel573 WOTC era did have Supporter cards, the first 18 Supporter cards were released during the final months of their western publishing license.
In Japan, the first set to introduce Supporter cards is Pokémon Web, released in 2001. It featured the first 3 Supporter cards ever printed and interestingly, they are all rebalanced versions of Trainer cards that featured human characters (the theme of Supporter cards ofc). While they didn't make a Supporter card version of Professor Oak, they did for Bill which is quite unfortunate for the poor lad.
Guzma, Hex Maniac, Delinquent, Blacksmith
Guzma and Hex should be on here.
A noteable card would here of course also be "Cynthia"
cinthya and lilia were soooooooo god but i only played a small portion of POkemon tcg and i can confirm Welder was broken as hell. (u forgot Guzma had the same effect of Lysandre but its okay)
surprised wally wasn't on the list, evolved a Pokemon from the deck and doesn't end your turn, so good it was banned.
yes its not great in a big basic format but it would see play in today's meta if it comes back.
Where is guzma, guzma&hala, hex maniac, colress and delinquent?
-1 Colress +1 Guzma. Honestly can’t believe Guzma isn’t on here the card is actually nuts
Great vid, but Lysandre was printed in flash fire not furious fists
No one in the comments has mentioned ghetsis, and i dont really think a more disruptive draw supporter has ever been printed
Best supporter for me, will always be Bill, just because of the nostalgia.
They could nerf Lysandre's Trump Card with an effect like "If each players has 5 or more prize card remaining, shuffle all cards from each player's discard pile to their deck. "
Ghetsis probably could've got a spot as well as Colress.
My boi N
I'd nominate twins and teammates
Pokemon Collector (or at least Brigitte) could've made the list I think
wheres skyla and maxies hidden ball trick
5 is literally the card Professor Oak from the first set of Pokemon, it just wasn't once per turn. I thought you wpuld bring that up.
EDIT: And 3 is literally Gust of Wind, also from first set, usable more than once per turn.
Not sure about not including Cyrus's Conspiracy in a top 10 supporter list.
why are boss' orders and professor's research considered massive game-changers? they ARE great cards that every deck can benefit from, but they're just cards that have been staples since base set that got turned into supporters when those were introduced. they're great and belong on this list, don't get me wrong, but they were never some wild new thing
But what about guzma
Colress's Experiment is definitely not on the same level as the other 9. Guzma should be on the list somewhere, or at least clumped with Boss.
Professor SIKE-amore
During my time playing during the XY Era, I have pulled 2 Full Art Lysandre's Trump Card in my lifetime playing the Pokemon TCG. I traded my first one and then about a year later pulled the second one to which I still have to this day
How about Seeker from HGSS Triumphant? It was short lived as part of the Sableye shenanigans, and we haven’t seen something quite like it again
No colress? I feel like it’s top 5 oat
Rip wally and hex maniac
10 Roseanne's Research+Bebe's Search
9 Scott
8 Pokemon Collector
7 Boss' Orders
6 Professor Juniper
5 Hex Maniac
4 Rocket's Admin
3 Lusamine
2 Lysandres Trump Card
1 VS Seeker
How do you have Boss's Orders and not Guzma?
Some comments say that it's only good in expanded with Float Stones available. Otherwise, Boss is better as most of the time, what stays in bench should stay in bench.
@@blazechaos212 Guzma was in thr Sun and Moon block and not Sword and Shield.
The thing about Guzma is that it's everything Boss's Orders is and more.
@@seantaft3853 I know. But it was more impactful in a meta with Float Stones. Also, Boss's Orders is more impactful vs. an minor upgrade that some decks might not want to run due to risks of useless Benched Pokémon becoming Active
Professor Sycamore does not own an bike
Guzma is literally a better Boss Orsers, so it should belong here somewhere.
Cynthia was missed
I feel like Draw 3 cards supporter, for as simple as it is, is very important and almost EVERYWHERE, so I think they should be on the list.
Other than Bill, those supporters weren't good until recently. Nobody played Cheren or Tierno.
I realllllly hope this video will be succeeded in the future by "top 10 worst supporters." duellogs has mentioned that negative top 10 perform better than positive top 10. Please make all Pokémon videos already made, and do top 10 worst format
welder and colress experiment being on here feels like recency bias. Yes they are very good cards, but they had a short shelf life and were deck specific. Colress experiment is only played in two decks that have not even been legal for a year but its on the best of all time list. But we have had supporters like Roseannes Research and Holon Mentor that were both 4 ofs in nearly every deck for 3 years in a row that did not even get a mention.
The virgin video game Lysandre
The chad TCG Lysandre
Lol. Prelevant.
Everyone knows the best supporter is VS seeker
I still feel like if you were limited to one copy of trump card it wouldn’t be the biggest issue
I enjoy how the number one card is named Trump Card.
Welder isn't that special. The only thing about him is the destroyed balance in favor of charizard, bc for some reason stupid game freak cares only about popular pokemons.
Now we have Gardenia. But there isn't that much of a good grass pokemons.
Reprint N you cowards
This company is so stupid. They print cards that gives you so much desire to play then they just take away that desire by banning the card. This game should do either print broken cards only or print trash cards only
I'd say Lysandre and Boss's Orders is the worst Supporter in the history of Pokemon TCG, not one of the best. The amount of times I lose the Pokemon TCG match just because my opponent used Lysandre or Boss's Orders supporter (once or few times) is enormous.
I don't feel the need of playing these cards myself, because I can K.O. any Pokemon my opponent have in the active spot, and if I can't - it's a fair loss. But my opponents always use this supper annoying easy gusting option to bring either my already damaged Pokemon, my Pokemon with high retreat cost or just simply my non-battling Dedenne GX from the bench.
In Expanded there are a lot of Tag Team and VMax cards, K.O.ing two of them is enough to win the game, so having two Lysandre/Boss's Orders in the deck theoretically is more than enough to guarantee the win. But instead of banning Lysandre/Boss's Orders in Expanded or at least limiting its use to one per game, TPCI allowing having four copies of it, four copies of Guzma and four copies of VS Seeker.
I'm trying to combat it with my Alolan Ninetales single prize deck, but I still need Dedenne-GX to discard tools from my hand, and OF COURSE Dedenne GX became a target for Lysandre or Boss's Ortders. I can't even reduce Dedenne GX prize count with Island Challenge Amulet, because it is banned in Expanded (despite Jirachi EX being the source of the problem).
And I can't even switch from Expanded to Standart, not only because I would need to change my decks every year, but mostly because TPCI keep printing Boss's Orders every freaking time!
God, I hate these two cards...
Please make a video showcasing some of the worst cards to ever exist in the TCG. Not just stuff with low HP or attack power, or that have been power crept, but cards that are just so awful due to having bad effects that you'd have to be an idiot to put them in your deck.
Fossil Kabutops. A 60-HP Stage 2 fossil that needs FFFF to deal 40 and gets silenced by Scyther. At the time of release it was pathetic, and has gone down in history as one of the most inept cards ever.