Why Used BMWs Are So CHEAP
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- čas přidán 21. 06. 2024
- Why Used BMWs Are So CHEAP
There are some reasons that BMWs are expensive when they are new, but there are also some reasons that they become cheap after they've been used for a few years! There are some stories as to how these #BMW #cars end up so #cheap after just a few years, and it's better if you're looking at buying a used luxury car to understand what's going on here.
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i wonder how many times he said plastic in that section😭
Any guesses?
@@ECPP FUN FACT: _Plastic_ was said 23 times between 5:40-8:10
Also the reason why I’m here is because I found a _09 X5 xDrive30i_ online listed for about 6k. Im super tempted but I’ve only ever heard about the difficulties of owning a BMW vs any pro’s..
...dunno ; how and when he used the word differential (3:00) that threw me off and out.....also check their stats in other sources, way more accurate.
Who cares!
Some cars are like strippers, they only perform as long as you throw money at them.
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Haha, comment of the month!
I’m just learning this now 😂🤣😭😭.
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Oh wow 😂
"There's nothing more expensive than a cheap BMW" -unknown
A cheap Porsche?
If you can't afford a new german luxury car, than you really can't afford a used one
any of u ever owned a bmw?
@@papiboy6290 pointless question. Your question only serves as an attempt to discredit the comments simply because you personally like BMW's.
I like Mercedese (and yes, I have owned 1 benz and personally know several people who own them). But i will never let my love for Benz cloud my judgment over its reliability the same way you are doing for BMW.
The cars are not as unreliable as people like to exaggerate them to be, but they do usually become money pits at 100 000 KM/200 000KM.
The entry level ones (e.g c300 Benz or 3 series non diesel bmw) do scrape by to 300 000 KM before needing super expensive surprises.
But ultimately, No BMW or Benz will ever be a 700 000 KM car like Toyota or Honda. Even Lexus is by far more reliable.
and yes, I have owned Toyotas and Hondas and got all my Toyotas past 500 000KM (I still own them).
You mean there’s nothing more expensive than a USED bmw
Owning a BMW has been my childhood dream but I'd spend my money on travelling rather than fixing everything that'd go wrong 10 years down the road. Happy with my Toyota
Thanks for sharing
This is a great video. I was driving BMW for 30 years. The problem was the BMW dealer service. They charge you four times the average service center but do not check the radiator water level! The problem is not the car but the shabby dealers.
Here in portugal too, they charge you for AC recharge but do nothing for example, the car goes in impeccable and comes with big scratches to the paint, they fix a door but let the water isolation material uninstalled, etc, etc... official dealers are not only very expensive but sometimes the worst, many can also be rude. The cars from my experience are good but the dealers are terrible they make the experience totally bad, it's not a premium experience once you have to deal with rude people who never admit to any error.
You fill through the reservoir not the radiator. Damn you really were driving bmw 30 years ago lol
You guys are the problems, DO NOT buy German car if you are living in the States.
@@wolfnorth7075 The problem is the United States, they SHOULD have mandatory yearly MOT and servicing like in Europe. Maybe Libdems will push the matter.
@@le5.24 😂😭
My wife and I bought a brand new 325i back in 2006. I have to admit it was the ultimate driving machine until 2 years later it became the ultimate repair machine. Got rid of it and got the Lexus and still happy with it. It may not be ultimate driving machine, but it’s the ultimate quality machine.
325i is the ultimate driving machine? Eh... if you like getting blown up off the line by a Jeep. The M cars can probably claim that title tho.
Lexus are great
2006 325i was the worst car ever made . I got 330ci zip manual in 2006 and 14 years later the car has 378k miles and still original clutch . Nothing has happened to it . I changed Battary tires , brakes and one ac compressor one blower motor resistor and valve cover gasket in 400k miles . That’s like going to the moon and half way back to Earth .
you can't have a foreign car in NYC or places where you stop and go in traffic.
@@ThinkDifferentish its not a drag car, its about balance. I screwed up when I first got my license and hit an off ramp at like 60 in the wet, young and dumb I know. But the e46 is such a balanced car I saved it and slid up the whole off ramp without hitting anything. I credit that car for saving my life.
People need to realize that you are not required to bring your car to a dealership. There are plenty of independent mechanics who specialize in fixing foreign cars who can save you thousands. Marble floors at the dealership doesn't impress me.
Maybe if you live in a big city. I have a hard time finding anyone to work on my M3 any thing more involved than an oil change
Some mechanics can't work on luxury cars, they need special codes that only the dealerships have.
@@Nestle245 yep
I agree with you but you do have to deal with the dealership when u are still under warranty and my bmw included ball the service for 4 years 48k miles. So I had to deal with the dealership. BMW customer service is an absolute nightmare. I stopped buying bmw’s because of the annoying customer service. Now that mine is older. I take it to a great place I found where the guy deals specifically in BMW ‘a. Once I sell this one. I won’t ever buy another bmw because of their severely poor customer service.
I don't know if you are from USA or Canada, but talking about USA : almost there's no honest good mechanic. They can't even fix cheap cars. Bringing them a luxury car is like permitting them to ruin it.
‘Specialist’ mechanics are the heroes we don’t appreciate. Rescuing us from the stealerships
Truth! I work for one… He’s excellent!
Great points, we loved our 3 series, but as you note maintenance costs over the long haul are a killer. Same issue with Audi and Mercedes. The German brands are great vehicles when new, but when the pre-paid initial maintenance plans go away, you really pay. So, unless your rich: you lease, enjoy then dump... Lexus is the only long term play in the luxury badges in my opinion.
I totally agree with you I buy Lexus of an average age of 10yrs or more two currently owned and 7 in total since 2003 no problem. No other brand can stand the test of time like Lexus a brand that elevate me to a big boy level with a relative reasonable amount of money without breaking the bank❤️
Insurance costs are geographical, if you buy a car made in ‘your’ country it should be affordable, if you buy one from another country insurance will be dearer the further away that country is due to the cost of shipping parts for repair and service etc.
Models and engines. Like in majority of cars you need to research. If youre buying used - data is there. There are some terrible engines and some best in the class. Same with different models. For instance models built in Germany have an excellent track record - GLC for instance. Year matters as well.
@@whitecrowuk575 indeed
Lexus are Toyota essentially no ?
$250 to lookup the problem is ridiculous. Dealers are getting real scummy.
Absolutely
Most consumers are ignorant and stupid. They allow the stealership rip them off all the time.
Here even a Toyota dealer will charge you around £100 to 150 for an hours investigation. Never use a main dealer for any car unless you are actually getting a really good deal which can happen sometimes but it is extremely rare. Best to find a marque specialist or another independent garage that you can trust. Or learn to do it yourself.
All people have to do is buy a cheap scanner lol, some things are actually an easy diy
@@caesarguzman5831 Exactly thats what i did. Even a caveman like me could read the codes and do research. save me a tons of money
Legend says that he's still walking backwards to this day.
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Lol 😂
🤣🤣🤣Funny guy
Lmbo!
BMW!
BMW!!
BMW!!!
I also work for an Auto company. Any used BMW we get coming through for inspections are total crap. Worn suspension, oil leaks and inoperative electronics. Most of the new vehicle purchasers in my area only buy them for the status and can't afford to maintain them.
I don’t know if it’s the same for BMW’s but I’ve heard Mercedes are built to be leased.
$ 250 for an oil change, you are killing me! I do my own for $19
Nice
$19 for an oil change? I do it for free.
@@Pepe-dq2ib even free is expensive i just DO IT!!
@@Hunter-pk7ym i am soo fucking jealous now.
I have lifetime oil changes for free! Got my car in 2009 during the downturn and they were offering crazy promotions.
Great advice. I bought my 525i from 2004 in 2009 with 60k km. For 16k Eur. Now still driving it with 210k km. It's still worth 5500 Eur :) Leaving brakes, fluids and filters aside, I have only paid 2000 Eur in repairs on my car in 13.5 years of driving. Some stuff I do myself and I use BMW software, but I don't have a garage, so my tools are limited. My BMW 525i with M54 is the cheapest ride I ever owned!
nice
I helped a friend take her BMW to a dealer service centre for some leakage. Got quoted $300AUD ($200USD) for a "visual inspection", not even connect the BMW to a computer for checks. The lady explicitly emphasized a "visual inspection".
At that moment I abandoned my dream of owning a M3. My current car is a Stinger and is very happy with it, other than the petrol cost.
I would say stay away from the brand unless you are good at working on your own cars or have a lot of play money.
“Drove a BMW for a while in my early days. It was great it helped me never to forget my wallet at home, because I knew that’s what it stands for... Bring My Wallet.”
-Jay Leno
Big Money Wasted....
Also "Break My Wallet"
Wow
that's not accurate anymore. it might have been back in the day, but now even a hyundai is dependable. after owning a couple of bm's i can say that it's only marginally more expensive to maintain than any other vehicle.
😂😂😂. That’s actually funny because that’s true.
10 minutes later, the staff arrived and he was chased off with a base ball bat.
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Baseball is one word. Learn to spell.
@@jamesmurray3128 -OK Rounders then. A girls game here in England.
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My second BMW is a used 530dx GT and I really love it. Here in Europe, many good BMW services are not BMW licensed but are much cheaper. For example on my previous car, BMW would charge 400e for new battery while other service (not BMW licensed) charged me only 260 (same AGM battery). The same for brakes, fuel etc.
Lucky you 👍
Used BMW is like buying a boat with a hole. lol Lots of motor issues. 80k car turn to 10 k car in a few years lol.
The 6th reason they are so cheap: They're unreliable! My used 7-Series with 60k miles on it cost more to maintain than my S65 AMG with over twice the miles!!! And that's saying something... Owning a used BMW was like owning a boat - I couldn't wait to buy it. And I couldn't wait to get rid of it. Never again, BMW.
Has to be the year of your 7 series
7 series is well known for that and you should have done your research. Thats legit the worst first BMW you could have bought. It is not marketed for basic drivers. Never let the 7 series speak for all BMW. Ive had a 3 series for 5 years now and all I had to do is replace spark plugs and air intake. Other than that just basic maintenance. I dont have any bmw horror stories to share 🤷
@@WhiteBoy-mq9nt what year is your x3 series? i really want to get an x3 but all these reviews are scaring me
@@WhiteBoy-mq9nt oh now it's the consumers fault that someone produced a shitty car lol
@@IAMYUNGGAF sure
To all the people arguing about what rich people drive. They drive what makes them happy not the price tag. It’s not always about how much you spend
The luxury of having money lol
I like $400 cars from original owners who have maintained them well.
@@evancycles I am well off and want performance.I bought a 2020 AWD KIA Stinger 3.3TT--36k last year at the height of covid.No reason to blow over 60k for a car--they just depreciate and in 5 years some things are outdated.I had a 50k budget--my Stinger was 19k after the trade in i own.So I own my stinger--have 30k plus in the bank--have my insurance paid for in full for the next 5 years--and already have money for my next car.I also add a few thousand yearly to my auto account.I have had no problems with KIA--they gave me the full 10 year warranty on the whole car--and if it stays in the shape it seems to--i will probably buy the updated Stinger.BMW's get very expensive and what i despie about german and american is after their warranty is up--when you take it for an oil change after the third year--they always find 500 to 1k in crap wrong.
The CEO of Ikea drives an old stage wagon.
@@Hazza101 man you got triggered.
Getting “greased” , “bent over” , adding these to my vocabulary now
Interesting video with some good points. In 2017 I bought a used 2014 F34 325d GT (not sure if they sell that in N.A.), which is a 4 cylinder turbodiesel. It had a bit more mileage than I wanted (around 116K kilometres) and maintenance was also not up to my standard, but the price was compelling enough. Years later the car now has 228K kilometres on it and has been about as reliable as a Toyota Camry- just fluid changes, brake pads/discs etc. It's had two factory recalls for design defects, but that's not at my cost
two happiest days in a BMW owner's life: the day you buy it and the day you depart it.
And you know how people know you've never owned a BMW? 🤦♂️
@@chrislim7976 I used to own one. Swapped it for a Mazda 3 . Best decision in my life.
@@adude8424 Mazda 3s are nice and don't carry the nonsense that BMW'S do but best decision in your life? Ok.
@@chrislim7976 i used to drive benz's, audi's, beamer's. Once you stop using these luxury sports cars as a daily driver. You'll stop feeling like you are being greased. These types of vehicles are all designed to suck as much money from your pocket by planned obsolescence. I used to think others admired me for driving these types of vehicles. They dont care. It was just my own ego thinking I was better than others for having this vehicle. Now that I have matured, I now see myself as a fool who was over paying for the ability to drive. It's not like you can really use the performance of these vehicles sustainable or often, you follow the speed limit most of the time. If I ever decide to spend 50k or more on a vehicle again. I'd buy a fully electric, like a Tesla. Luxury ICE vehicles are waste of money. I see anyone who owns these vehicles as suckers.
Just like a JAAAAG !
Fancy jumpsuits and that cost money that is hilarious
Cheers. Throw a little subtle humour in there.
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Warranty or not... this shit is UNACCEPTABLE!! I understand BMW's safety mechanisms but to have the car completely shut down while you are driving is INSANE... you can have a accident or whatever and these are high end vehicles.... I've had 3 fuckin 7 series the first one which was pretty much a piece of shit was the best out of the 3.... I had a 2007 750Li.... the alternator caught on fire and smoke was coming thru my vent... fast forward... I copped a 2011 750li BEAUTIFUL EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR.... all kinds of leak problems, injector malfunctions.. that twin turbo engine was HORRIBLE... the mechanic didn't even want to work on it .... I had my own BMW mechanic so I felt comfy purchasing this car in his words he said "GET RID OF IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO BANKRUPT " lol.... smh I still didn't listen me and my wife found a 2012 740Li at a chevy dealer i copped that one and on the way home.. it had a transmission malfunction and shut down.. I had to get the tow to come tow it back in the rain to the dealership which was about 15 miles away... and the dealer said just come get your down payment money back... I said aren't you going to fix it for the next customer? he said "NO WE AIN'T PUTTIN NO MORE MONEY INTO THIS CAR ITS GOING BACK TO THE AUCTION!" SMH lol I wanted one so bad but I ended up getting an Audi A8 from Carvana and it hasn't given me anywhere near the issues i've had with those 7 series...
This has been some recent experience for me as well. Thanks so much for sharing.
I'm surprise someone still getting his 3rd BMW eventhough he got upset by both the previous units. 😂
@@carlssonlim 3rd times the unlucky charm lol
And you went to Audi for relief?
@@theguru4798 Perhaps Toyota is the answer
I don't drive all that often so I still drive a 2004 325i. It's a nifty little thing for getting around (when it's not in the garage) but it was pretty obvious even when it was new that they really skimped on comfort and reliability.
As someone who works for a Auto company, finally, someone who spoke the truth behind used cars vs new cars. Used cars are way cheaper if you have cash or are willing to buy a 5 year car with cash. New cars especially BMWs have so much fluff in them but the lease/finance rates make up for it. The maintenance in all these exotic cars is insane but if you have the money to buy a BMW then you better have the money to maintain it, else you are just one of those show offs.
just like the iphone
Lets be honest, Who buys a bmw to *NOT* be a show off?
well, they are aesthetic and one of the best touring and drifting cars. not always showing off as to quality and looks
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior - I bought one because I was driving thousands of miles a year and it was a nice place to be for hours a day. I sold it at the end of last year because now I'm not.
That said we dont generally get as many jealous people claiming only show offs buy them as they are actually quite common in the UK. I think the 3 Series is like our 5th best selling car annually, so maintenance, parts and whatnot are actually not that expensive (which is good as it was one of the most unreliable cars Ive ever owned).
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior you know who buys it to show off and who buys it to enjoy the driving dynamic of the car. The show offs go and by a brand new base model 320i. A real car enthusiast goes a buys a 335i sport package. You can tell
Yes, BMWs are expensive to maintain. I know. I had one many years ago. If you want a Beemer, then lease one for a year and get it out of your system.
I own four!! Three are in the shop atm. One is ok - but I’ve got it down to a science - by the time one of the four get out of the shop, the current one I’m driving will blow up. 1998 328i , 2001 330ci, 2004 325i, 2016 328i x drive. Even the newest one takes it turn. Thousands and thousands and THOUSANDS of dollars a year in upkeep. But you know what? When you get bit by the bmw bug there’s no going back to a different car. I swear they pipe some drug through the cabin filter to get you hooked. When they work? There’s nothing like. Bmw on the open road. Just find an independent shop that you trust. I’ve gone to precision European in Salt Lake City for the last 20 years. Never ever take the car to be repaired at the dealership UNLESS you’re still under warranty. I’m convinced they’re programmed to blow up at 50001 miles lol. I still love these cars. They’re amazing. Just figure out how to fix them yourselves on the stupid stuff, and go to an independent shop for the big stuff.
I own a 2016 428i gran coupe with the m sport package. I haven’t had any issues at all. Bought it with 60,000 miles and currently have 146,000. If you take one to a dealer they will over charge which most dealerships do. They have other repair facilities that fix them for a reasonable cost. Maintenance cost is not expensive on mine either. But it’s all about what a person can afford and want to drive..especially if they love the vehicle.
Yeah I just purchased the same model as you and same mileage. Hopefully I don't run into any problems as well.
How much were your maintenance costs so far?
Bought a 2014 BMW 535d last year. Paid $19,000. This car was originally $74,000. We have a mechanic who saves us about 40% from dealer, not including him not charging for stuff like the "diagnostic". We absolutely love the car! Oh, yeah its a diesel. Good sized car, surprisingly quiet and quick and gets about 30 mpg in mixed driving.
Dealer asking price was $74k it was never worth that in the first place
@David Bowman KS
How much and what did your 40% less pricy mechanic do to your beloved BMW?
Can your mechanic travel the world? I need help here in Jamaica
@@sanjapkoki unfortunately no... and we are now moving away. Got to find another one...
Every time you drive a used BMW you're constantly looking to see if a check engine light comes on because you know it's coming any minute
Lol it’s always a nervous drive.
Lol. So true after startup ,always looking for it to light up 😆
@@batman1169 who the hell wants to live like that and then when the BMW mechanic tells you what he wants to fix it Your heart skips a beat
@@tonyrappa4611 always be under warranty
Brahhh tell me about it lol 😂
I was hesitant but got me a 3 series for like 4k. The dealer knew a guy to repair it cheap too. Turned out to be a pretty good buy as the thing is the fastest car I ever had. The only bad thing is my key fob doesn’t work so going through some back channels on that too
Love your videos man. Keep up the great work
Had a 7-series. Having it break all the time took the fun right out of it. Never again.
Same with any new car I've stopped buying cars now. I have voted with my feet. If I buy another car it will be a keoniggseg when I get the money from not being ripped off for years
the worse compaired to the old 7 series,the twin turbo v8 is probably the worst engine ever made.seals and valve guides total shit.
Read my comment
Get a Toyota or Honda. You won’t be disappointed. Yes, there’s maintenance like other cars, but the maintenance is minimal and so is the price.
@@prosedi17 are the 2000-2008 7 series reliable.
I bought a 4 yr old bmw 328i at a dirt cheap price and I LOOOOOVE IT! Some sensor issues but I ignore them never take it to a dealership not even to a garage. The car drives so fine after 3 yrs very powerful. No regret whatsoever
What year I want to buy one but scared
128, 328, 528, all very reliable. Get the picture?
Hahaha oh no. Don’t ignore those lights!!!! I promise you, they will blow up like you’ve never seen if you do. In my experience, those lights go off with a bit of time before the final blow up. So you can get the car to the shop or home usually (they’re color coded too so if you see red it’s an emergency. Yellow is caution, orange it’s about to blow, red it’s not safe to drive.) not always but I’ve had these cars for two decades and this has been my experience. Go get a code reader so you can at least look the codes up and see what’s going on. But if you ignore them it will be bad news when a minor repair then blows up into thousands and thousands. Ask me how I know 😭😉. You see the light and the car seems fine so you keep going, and then stop even noticing it’s on. Thats when you learn to regret it lol. Just check the code then you’ll know for sure. I love these cars, too. They are 🔥.
I just bought a used 2013 535i M Sport for good money coming from owning 2 WRX's and I can safely say this BMW has me feeling some sort of way each time I get in it. I didn't get it for speed even though it's got plenty of power for my taste but it's absolutely luxurious and ahead of its time, the sound system and entertainment system is great, it looks slick and the F10 model looks like it could pass for a 2016+. If you have the money to take care of them, they're something special.
Thanks for sharing Nick. They definitely feel great from the drivers seat. The n55 is a reasonable engine and more durable than the V8 in that car. Good choice and agree, maintenance is critical and don’t let stuff slide.
I'm suspecting that you went there at the crack of dawn to make this great video 😄 I can't imagine the dealership would appreciate seeing you telling the truth about their bad practices. Also, was there any kind of auto mall security you had to deal with? Keep it up! Always love to hear an unbiased, educated opinion!
It really is about simply telling the truth that many do t like to hear. I grew up getting hosed on certain vehicles and now I feel that truths need to be said
I bought my 2013 335i e92 at 58% off in 2016! It was in excellent condition and only had 34k miles on the odometer! I got a lot of issues resolved while it was under warranty. I have a great local mechanic that does great work and doesn’t charge me an arm and a leg! I recently paid it off and am hoping for many years of driving enjoyment! 🙂
That’s really cheap!
Im so jealous
Me behind the wheel of a BMW puts a smile on my face any day of the week, saving a few grands a year on a boring car does not. End of story.
I agree Steve. Driving enjoyment trumps all. Cheers
the issue is you dont save a few grand :D the car itself costs shitton + service = broke af
Find a good indy; it'll save you a ton of money.
I bought my bimmer knowing annual maintenance is pricey. Then again, I can also afford it. Crazy right?
Nothing wrong with owning a BMW if you like it and can afford it. Just lease it for 3 years and trade it in on a new one, it's always under warranty. Me, I prefer to buy a new Toyota or Lexus and drive it for 10 or 12 years. I go for long term reliability. My Lexus RX 350 has plenty of luxury.
I like to imagine each time the video "cuts" it's because he tripped over 🤣
Thanks for the video!
I bought all 3 of my BMW's used from the original owner. Knowing how the original owner maintained and drove the car is the key. And yes all 3 are old enough to be normally aspirated so the complexity is much lower.
3.5 years owned f31 330d,50,000 miles oil and tyres ..still makes me smile daily
Service auto trans is a must
I have two BMW, 2016 528i and 2009 328i. So far I have replaced so much in both that I practically builded a new car. Not by choice but have family members that don’t know about cars.
2016 with 50k mileage had valve cover gasket replaced (they all leak oil), motor mounts replaced, rear diff bushings.
Never had to change so much with 50k miles
Exactly, just wrong that these things fail so quickly and there are bigger issues shortly after that
I had a 2012 335, entire safety system failed when I was rear ended at a stoplight. Kid hit me doing 50, air bag failed to deploy and the seat belt tensioner failed. Slammed my head against the upper windshield frame. The idrive system told on itself. Last bmw I’ll own.
Did it hurt?
Marble floors is why we pay more at the start. that's honestly hilarious and super accurate at the same time.
Thanks. It really is.
The dealership really is upscale. It was better than Lexus IM.
Reason: Probably that the warranty is out and that the repairs are costly.
What? No! Never! 😂
Repairs? Lol buy one part from fcp euro and u can keep getting one for free. Lifetime warranty baby
Dingdingding we have a winner! Enjoy your price, a brand new BMW!!!
80% are leased then dumped! The only way to drive one is LEASE. You can buy one certified by dealer but the warranty is usually short like 1-2 years left.
You can get a used 2020 330i for about 35k. A new one goes for 45k. The used one still has 3+ yrs of manufacturers warranty. ...its not the warranty or repair cost.
I've never owned a beamer and have always steered clear of euros in general. My last one was a '09 Passat 2.0T where the engine burned up at 132k miles, rip! Sweet ride though and fun. Saw a 2007 760li with 97k miles and the V12 for $5k and just had to. It's a fixer upper but it's a weekend car and I will fix it over time. It runs and drives great with no major issues. Just a bunch of minor crap. Great purchase
I bought an M3 only because I can do the general maintenance myself and that saves thousands. If I got a major issue then so be it, it was a fun car and worth the risk.
Even if I can fix the car I would rather spend my day off enjoying my holiday than figuring out what broke again
Skeleto
This is definitely true. I own three BMWs and I'm constantly diagnosing or repairing stuff but I love driving them. I rather spend time fixing my cars than spending time on the couch watching ridicuolus TV. Spending quality time with family is OK with me but not doing meaningless activities. Plus I save a big chunk of money I can use on my next vacation. Everyone's perspective is different.
Well said!
You probably a mechanic or work for un of these scamdealerships
I'll save everyone 10min, they're cheap because they don't age well.
Tanks
The majority of the BMW range age brilliantly. Cars from 20, even 30 years ago still look and drive very well. You can't say that about many cars.
@@robfellows9833 I can't say that about many cars, including BMW
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Good Rob fellow.
You have to be smarter than what your working with.
Just do basic maintenance.
Change oil.
15k oil. No. No. No.
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5k oil.
Yes.
Very good information,thanks.
I wasn't scared to buy a 2016, 17, 7 series BMW until I watched this video. 😞. Its really the plastic engine parts for me.. Thank you for the info.
I service my M4 Myself, no need for a trip to the stealership
Good plan
Good car guy !
Hehe that's why my 06 3 series lasted 10 years until wrecked.
Stealership. I fucking LOVE it! I'm going to use that from now on.
Ha ha ha ha!
@@deyken2008 same!
My wife and I have driven BMWs for over a decade. Here is my formula for purchasing one: Buy a 3 year old CPO 3 series sedan or X3 that just came off lease. Or a courtesy/executive demo that is younger. Don't spend more than 35k, don't buy one with more than 20k miles. Wait for the 1% financing. Put zero down. Consider selling after 5 years of ownership. Do all scheduled maintenance. We have had no mechanical issues, ever- Maybe that's just luck. I can usually find a vehicle that fits this criteria within a month of searching in the Boston area, where everything is expensive. We all agree, they are not Hondas.
We’ve bought CPO too and have had zero issues. I’d say this buy new or CPO with low miles and keep forever. Most people have issues buying a high mileage vehicle and then are surprised that maintenance is expensive. I do all of the maintenance myself outside of brakes and transmission. I basically have just done regular oil changes at 7500 and spark plugs and coils. It’s running great at 100k and still looks brand new in and out.
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Our 2016 328i has about 73k on it, but literally looks and drives like the day I bought it in 2017 with 5k miles on it. Garage kept, but I still expected worse with the New England winters. Also the X-drive is amazing, even on a sport sedan. It put a 2015 Subaru Outback to shame in the snow, which we sold, after endless electronic problems. Go figure.
i always enjoys your videos.keep up the good work.
Thanks Dean
We love our 02 330ci vert. It's old enough where I can do most of the maintainance and parts can be had for cheap. Upgraded the cooling componants, some suspention work. Bought the car off of the second owner for 8k CDN. Fortunately, the original owner kept all of the service records and that was the clincher for the sale. Great car to drive, looks awsome. We could never do new. Happy driving.
This is so true. I currently have an oil leak and just now overheating issues
A co-worker bought a 3 year old 850i for about a third of list. He loved the car but it was constantly in the shop and the cost was killing him. He got rid of it and bought a WRX and he was much happier.
They are also likely to burn down in your garage several hours after shut off, see the class action suit against them.
One of the best videos I have ever seen about a BMW .
Thanks a lot David
The stealerships really scares so many BWW, Mercedes, Porsche and Audi fans away
It really does outside of warranty for sure
Include Audi to that list!
Idiots buy euro cars when out of warranty. You lease them! End of story. If you dont know that by now, you are stupid.
U buy used unless u are a mechanics.
@@troytruong8246 I owned my bmw for 8 years and I learned after a year just learn and do most repairs myself.
You should not be buying a BMW if you have these concerns! Yes BMW is overpriced! And water is wet!
The problem is that people are trying to live a BMW life with a Honda budget!
Whats a BMW life , the mechanic share more time with it than the owner
ALWAYS RIGHT
Except that is nonsense! BMWs few issues during their first 5 years and owners trade in their cars on average every 3 years. When 2nd and 3rd owners have issues 8 years after it came off the line its hardly a concern of the original buyer!
Honda more reliable than any BMW
Iain Hogg
But it’s a horrible car!
Except Honda has far better reliability
Great video..this exemplifies pretty much all German car manufacturers..it's nice, fast, comfy when it's new but not even a year in or 2 and they start having a ton of issues because of the lackluster engineering in terms of can this almost completely plastic system still hold out in 5 years..I try to avoid anything post 2003 because at least those have great aftermarket support, cheaper, and handle like a dream..plus going to a dealer for maintenance is pretty much asking to get scammed nowadays.
There is some rubbish spewed on the Internet; yours is no exception.
Owned an f30 for ten years, most of the talk about service costs is only true if you go to a bmw dealership. If you do go there, I think you should check your life choices. Find a shop that you trust and have them work on your car. Mine has been very reliable and I have only done about 2k dollars of repairs since the warranty went out. Other than that it was just oil changes, brakes and tires. Nothing hectic.
This comment has the most common sense
Ok now I will never buy a BMW new or used. Thanks brother!
8,567 words in just six minutes. A new world record. Nice job!
Thanks for your honesty and formost your integrity ,you saving aloy of people money ,
So nice of you
2000 MRoadster and loved it. Sold it to buy a boat and start a new chapter.
I buy all my cars at least five years old and/or 50,000 miles to keep the price down to save for maintenance.
That has also generally been my approach. Diy ing is king with these cars as they get older.
I knew it. The high price of new BMWs: “Free coffee”.
Don't forget about those damn marble floors.
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30,000 for a brake job after 20k miles on a Mercedes w/ carbon fibre brakes.
That'll pay for a couple of cups of joe.
Does the coffee come with biscuits?
In all honesty, the coffee is good.
After two years my TERRIFIC X3 depreciated by really close to 50%. OUCH!!!
goofydog2 my condolences to your decision making. X3? Lol gl with that!
@@troytruong8246 I've owned a slew of very nice cars, including porsches, mercedes, etc. And hands down, the X# has been the absolute one of the best vehicles I've had the pleasure of owning.
@K Jhnsn the next person who buy this car out of warranty is an idiot. Does not matter how cheap it is. It will be a money pit.
@K Jhnsn There isn't a truer statement! But I'll keep it till the wheels fall off.
@John Edwards Nice to hear sage advice. Their is a price to pay for the pleasure of driving a well schooled vehicle. The X 3 is such a car.
I own an 2010 F01 730d and I can't complain that much, the most expensive thing was the tire set. I do use it as an weekend car tho so it doesn't see much road and it never goes past 2000 rpm. I wouldn't daily it tho, it would wreck me financially.
Great video, agree on most of your points
Thanks
BMW technicians wearing a jumpsuit while Lambo and Ferrari technicians wearing an Astronaut suits
Lol
Lol 😂
🤣😂😅🙊
5 minutes after this video he was escorted outta the parking lot.
Since he's white, the pOlice were involved.
🤣
Security guard came over : *HEY MAN I TOLD YOU YOU CANT KEEP COMING ON THE LOT AND RECORDING YOUR LITTLE VIDEOS NEXT TIME IM SICKIN THE DOG ON YOU*
He yelled "rape!!!" When the security guards touched him...
@@ultron5622 lol Karen
Its 5:50 am
Owning BMW's since 1982 on and off but generally a very good experience, never once let me down but official dealers for German brands are outrageously expensive. Try to find a brand specialist and you'll be fine. Last maintenance on my G31 530d was a full check-up (and use of the diagnostic laptop), oil change and rental car included, set me back €169 ($190) only, good to go for another hassle-free (I hope) 30K kilometers. It's important to do some desk research on engine types and typical problems and avoid the weaker types. Enjoy!
Maintenance also depends on the owner. It depends on your driving style and how much you care about the car. I have two bmw, X6m 2011 and e46 m3 convertible which I bought 3 years ago. I bought the oil kit myself, I change it on time and everything recommended by the manufacturer. So there is no big panic.
The m3 you own is a simpler car and one worth owning
You have a good point. Perhaps people ignore the maintenance cycles and problems seem to accumulate all at once or snowball on the owner.
I like the vibe, the info, the man. Good job
Thank you very much and welcome to the channel
Sales guy - "Hello sir, is there a particular car you would like to see"?
Me - "No thanks, I'm here for the free coffee".
....and the marble floors
☕️👍🏻
Or go for the licorice like Larry David.
Probable high repairs/parts cost is less of a concern comparing to the prestige and joy of owning a BMW.
i don't even know how prestigious they are anymore. They're so many models and so many of them on the road these days.
Prestige?? Lol 🤣
I had an 06 Porsche Cayenne S. My brother gave it to me free. 2 years later I sold it at a loss for $5400 because of the repairs and I did most of the work myself. I still miss that car but the repairs bills are ridiculous. Too many cheap parts on such an expensive vehicle. Sounds like BMW is the same
Nothing to do with me. But I guess that's the reason you got it free.
What a PHENOMENAL video!
Thank you for the truth sir! I’ve heard the same from several other dependable sources. I’m adding your channel to that list ✌🏿
Thank you very much. Welcome to the channel. Cheers.
So basically the most reliable BMW's sit in the garage.
Or just get E39 or E46
BIG GIGGER thought the e46 and the other clases of those years were considered “unreliable”
kevin not At All! I have one with 210k miles and it runs like a dream with little maintenance needed.
@@kevper96 my 2003 e46 went to 210k miles.. insane engine. loved that car.
They are not the car for the average consumer , based on the initial cost and the price of repairs.
excellent video!!! thank you
You are welcome!
Having been an owner of three used BMWs, I would never purchase another used BMW again. The service costs are completely outrageous. My experience, once a BMW hits 30 to 40,000 miles, you’re going to be opening your wallet frequently. The BMW rides beautifully, but do not keep them too long. It’s unfortunate that these vehicles are so expensive however they are not built for the long haul. Most of my friends who were BMW owners, are deciding to go to a different vehicle brand.My suggestion is to lease a BMW and when the lease is up, say goodbye.
Have had two so far first ridden from new to 45k no even single issue, second from 18k - 36k so far and the same. I think what matters is what engine you go with. 2 liter and v8 are not good choices especially the latter. One and the only brilliant engine is inline 6. It’s a marvel. Btw version of it was used in Royce and in newer Range Rover - the only RR which doesn’t get engine issues lol
@@whitecrowuk575 those miles are nothing. If you gotta do more than a brake job and fluid/filter changes, maybe some tire repairs by 45k mile you have an awful car. You don't find out if its good until 70-150k...if it gets past that without any problems then you have a good car but generally BMWs need many repairs during that time period.
@@dcgregorya5434 it’s different take for sure - it all depends on our definition of reliable car - rarely anyone would be keeping one from new for 10 years while doing 20k miles a year. It depends on how it’s serviced how it’s been driven more owners it has its muddies the picture and it’s hard to say one car is bad if it’s got issues after 8years of use - it’s impossible to compare to other cars really as there aren’t any official reports on this so we really don’t know. What we do know is first 3-4 years reports - what is QC for any given model - if it’s got many issues even smaller ones it’s possible down the road there will be bigger ones. There are already brands that have comparably serious QC issues. But each model needs to be treated separately as quite often they are made in different places. German cars built in Germany have outstanding QC same as Japanese in Japan.
This Guy is A WEALTH of knowledge. Thank You for the understanding..
Thanks Edward
Bought a used ‘16 F32 with 20K miles on it for $21K 3 years ago. It was a steal. It now has 112K miles on it. Standard maintenance as needed. I’ve had my check engine light come on and it was cause of the battery. Otherwise, no major issues yet. Love this car and the brand. I drive it to death and road trip like crazy. Change the oil and spark plugs and take care of it as you should. Off course it’s an ICE car so things are bound to break but I drive 30K miles per year on avg and no major issues yet. The avg person can buy a used BMW second hand and have a great quality car long term. I do plan to keep this car but it won’t be my daily driver much longer.
30k miles a year? And people wonder why shit breaks in their Bmws lol.
It was the marble floors for me 😂
Completely true, I experienced all this issues with my beautiful 320i
Yes
I have sold alot of "high end" cars and BMW was one that had a ton of problems. We had a customer that his wife wanted a X-5. So we went to the Auction and got him a low mileage late model X-5. We talked to him about 2 months later and he told us it was a good thing he owned his own shop and had his own mechanics because he said I've already had to replace the alternator and starter on this piece of crap. It didn't take him long to get rid of it and go back to a Lexus. Best car made period for the money. I've owned 4 Lexus's myself.
So long as people continue to buy these cars at inflated prices, car manufacturers will continue to make them.
That’s true
Up to 500% markup
It seems that people who start making money buy the EuroTrash. Wealthy people tend to go Asian.
@@meabob bro, every nice neighborhood I pass by are Japanese cars/Kias/somewhat older Ford/American trucks/suvs (always CRVs). While the section 8 housing near me have all sorts of BMWs and other fancy cars.
i’ve had my 2000 328i for about 2 months and so far it’s been the most car i’ve ever driven and the i’ve had no issues because i’ve stayed on top of the maintenance
Hi Man! great videos, I am on the market and a 2015 528i caught my attention for a very REASONABLE price, what should I look for?? it has 100K miles on it
Timing chain noise and updates on the tensioner/guide hardware updates? Oil service history and issues with oil filter housings and coolant leak potential.
@@ECPP hey thanks for replying! Although after watching many of ur videos I am not sure anymore if I want to go down the path of a used BMW XD I used to drive one a few years ago, excellent cars, until they're not haha
“They got free coffee “....😂🤣
I bet.
Lol
Works out at only US$1,000 a cup when you add the repair bills of your BMW.
Why are BMWs cheap? Because they LEAK! I work for a large auto auction company and I have inspected countless numbers of BMWs and the majority of them leak. They're great when they're new but as they age, the gaskets and seals go bad on them. My 3rd Gen Toyota RAV4 3.5L V6 is BONE DRY underneath and it has 191,000 miles on it. Still runs strong and trans shifts beautifully - wouldn't trade my Toyota for any BMW.
BMW - Bring More Wipes / Bring More Wrenches / Bavarian Manure Wagon / Big Money Waste
Wow, exactly....so why are they so expensive if they're so poorly engineered?
@@ecurb10 I don't think they are poorly engineered - I think most, if not all, German cars are overly engineered. From what I was told by the guys who I work with, BMW decided to save a few pennies and switch vendors who made the seals and gaskets for their engines. Oh, those bean counters. Well, you can figure out the rest.
@@valianttmt8044 Yea but it's not just leaky seals.
And it depends on your defenition of 'poor engineering' - I'd call any over-engineering, especially if it's unreliable - poor engineering. It's just bad design.
Surely the bottom line is if it works and if it keeps working.
@@ecurb10 Unfortunately, just about every car has become too sophisticated - that's just the reality of it. Car manufacturers don't want people doing work on their own car - they want you to go to your local dealership to get it fixed. Everything is electronic (yuk!) so customers don't know how to work on that and only dealerships have the electronic equipment to work on cars. I just think the more sh!t you put in a car, the more things that can break down.
Good to know
Excelente explicación! Saludos!
Thank you
Being a BMW technician for many years, I can witness that BMW s maintenance becomes exponentially more expensive the older they get....and unreliable. Not a viable feature for many secondhand buyers.