Top 10 Mistakes Audiophiles Make

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  • @daveb1761
    @daveb1761 Před 4 lety +130

    My number one mistake for a long time in the beginning of my hi-fi quest was: ‘Mistaking brightness for detail.” If you can’t listen for hours and still want more, take it as a bad sign.

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 Před 4 lety

      Interesting, good point.
      Related note; w/decades of live mixing FOH, this is something that I have given a great deal of effort to achieve proper balance of detail within the HF.
      I found the single most critical element in the live mix (except a monster kick😉!), is ABSOLUTE vocal clarity ... clarity that cuts right thru and sits above all else... yet without overly edgy harshness.
      FOH engineers vary in their approach. However, for me, achieving this would typically require an outboard, single channel parametric EQ*, and careful and constant attention to assure just enough vocal presence/edge, without harshness or sibilance above.
      I pride myself upon it, and I've got over 30yrs experience too, but the paying customer has to clearly delineate the vocal lines... despite the high dB modern live show, still vocals have to be clear but without harshness... and it's easy to enter into at the modern/high dBSPL events.
      *(of the highest quality available, transparency of even high-end EQs/comps is discernible over a good rig)

    • @roetsj
      @roetsj Před 4 lety +5

      If your feet/foot won't tap along with the music there is something wrong,also emotions come to play

    • @clickbaitpro
      @clickbaitpro Před 4 lety +2

      If it's hard to differentiate between two instruments from each other such as ride and hit hat, it means speakers lack in details

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 Před 4 lety +2

      @@clickbaitpro
      Yes
      Or, acoustic distortions of the room.

    • @rootz420
      @rootz420 Před 4 lety

      Through 10 years of DAW experience I can say this is too true. Since I got proper speakers it's like going back to school.

  • @GeoffParsons1469
    @GeoffParsons1469 Před 4 lety +249

    Number 1 mistake is..
    Not listening to your music and worrying about your system too much, sit back and relax..

    • @a0r0a7
      @a0r0a7 Před 4 lety +3

      Spot on👍

    • @alrightnow1124
      @alrightnow1124 Před 4 lety +13

      I agree! I was guilty of this in my past.. Never getting the enjoyment out of my equipment. But now I’m listening more than buying equipment. That’s the real joy....

    • @yoryteperman429
      @yoryteperman429 Před 4 lety

      You got it right!

    • @christianfrancke
      @christianfrancke Před 4 lety +1

      I guess most of us don‘t know how the music, that we listen to sounds originally in the studio. So I fully agree with tip #1. It’s really very individual what sounds pleasant to someone’s ears.

    • @yoryteperman429
      @yoryteperman429 Před 4 lety +1

      Actually, even though the world cultures differ very much in many aspects, most cultures tend to agree on what their members find euphonic and what they find cacophonous: - so while Japanese drumming is very different from African or of native Amazonian drumming, they would to still all agree as to what is good drumming and what is bad drumming. So, no, not so fast with all being subjective. Do read Kant's theory of aesthetics / beauty - he tried to grapple with this fact of both aesthetic beauty and music being an OBJECTIVE quality shared among many without any prior agreement or conditioning, with some minor culturally-inborn preferences of course, but still largely an OBJECTIVE SHARED occurrence. Besides, a sound engineer who sees only sounds over attempting to capture and bring across the essence of MUSIC (i.e. the balance of sounds, rhythm, ambience, the other intangibles - the moments when everything just "clicked", etc) - well, perhaps if I were a musician, I would not want to hire such an engineer to master my art... Cheers!

  • @trekjudas
    @trekjudas Před 4 lety +26

    My biggest mistake was not buying more used records in the late 90s and early 2000s! People were just practically giving them away. I got Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon for $2!! It was a golden age!!

    • @bootsarmstrong8421
      @bootsarmstrong8421 Před 4 lety +2

      I bought an audiophile pressing of "DARKSIDE OF THE MOON" for $50.00 back in early 80's. Still have it😸😸😸

    • @trekjudas
      @trekjudas Před 4 lety +1

      @@bootsarmstrong8421 i got it for $5 in the 90s.

    • @apollomemories7399
      @apollomemories7399 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bootsarmstrong8421 You were robbed.

    • @apollomemories7399
      @apollomemories7399 Před 4 lety +1

      In March 1973, upon its original release I paid £2.20 for a first pressing UK copy. I still have it and it plays in EX grade condition. The receipt is in the sleeve. It's worth about £150 today.

  • @budgetaudiophile6048
    @budgetaudiophile6048 Před 4 lety +51

    02:50:
    Me: **boiling 50lbs of rice** "OH COME ON!"

  • @Sool101
    @Sool101 Před 4 lety +8

    The number one mistake (and yes I fell for it to a degree) is listening to your rig in a way that the actual music becomes secondary.

  • @mariosupa4027
    @mariosupa4027 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey Ron Happy & Blessed New Year bro to you and your family. Nice video post, glad you're now being sponsored and great to have you back.

  • @leonardosullivan963
    @leonardosullivan963 Před 4 lety +8

    I used atabite - high density filler to increase the the mass of my speaker stands. Improved the sound and very pleased with the outcome.

  • @Talyessin63
    @Talyessin63 Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks Ron, #1 particularly resonated. Having purchased a new hifi rig for the first time in 5 years, I too read the reviews, and used those as a basis for auditioning, but my most trusted thing were my ears. I also took copious notes of what I was hearing as I auditioned for speakers. Being able to compare the same few tracks at different stores with notes of what I heard was incredibly valuable, and left me choosing a niche New Zealand manufacturer - Theophany - that I enjoyed more than Dynaudio, Monitor Audio, B&W, KEF etc.
    I was gob smacked when the staff told me hardly anyone does this, so I'd add that as a clause to your #1, trust your ears and if auditioning, take notes on what you hear!
    Cheers from Melbourne, Australia, Peter

  • @frankvee
    @frankvee Před 4 lety +1

    Great advice. I've been into audio gear for over 30 years and this is a good list indeed.

  • @jeffsloane8628
    @jeffsloane8628 Před 4 lety +8

    Ron your list is great. One of my mistakes was not making sure my streaming service/devises were set to maximum quality. Free upgrade in source material quality.

  • @mikehanks1399
    @mikehanks1399 Před 3 lety +4

    Well that's just GREAT. Just as I get used to all of the subjective, inane, mumbo jumbo stuff about audio, you come along with an objective, common sense approach. Thanks!

  • @ottschi63
    @ottschi63 Před rokem +1

    I threw my old out of the house.
    Best tuning tip.
    Finally, listening to music is fun again 🕺🏼🕺🏼🕺🏼
    Greetings from Vienna

  • @mistafishman
    @mistafishman Před 4 lety +3

    Great list! I mainly connect with the advice on placement. I have a relatively cheap system and correcting the height and toe-in made such a huge difference I’m starting to think that it’s the most important thing.

  • @gabebcn
    @gabebcn Před 4 lety +1

    Great downright sensible list of tips! I completely agree.

  • @nunofernandes4501
    @nunofernandes4501 Před 4 lety +3

    The new music advice is #1 for me!

  • @jay12345ist
    @jay12345ist Před 4 lety +3

    Didn't think it'd ever happen but a couple weeks ago I got some transparent cable and thought it sounded awful. Turns out I had my polarity wrong and my L/R channels switched. I was just so excited. Sounds great again

  • @hobo1452
    @hobo1452 Před 3 lety +10

    The speakers away from the walls advice doesn't necessarily apply to all speakers. Front ported speakers like Klipsch Cornwalls are specifically designed to to function against a wall and/or in a corner. That is actually why they are called "Cornwall". BTW, Christmas fruit cakes also make excellent sound deadener for hollow speaker stands!

    • @tjblues01
      @tjblues01 Před rokem

      Yes, it doesn't necessary apply all the time. But even with front ported speakers you have take into account wall reflections and resonance of the whole listening room. So the distance from a back wall, front wall and speakers angle matter.

    • @rickberge3824
      @rickberge3824 Před rokem

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    • @georgemoonman2830
      @georgemoonman2830 Před rokem +1

      It applies to all speaker, even front ported speakers will sound better when placed away from the wall. The front port just makes them less worse when placed against a wall, but they will still sound better away from the wall.

  • @trism3gist0s1
    @trism3gist0s1 Před 3 lety +1

    you deserve all the love of the world. man i watched this video 2 days ago because i wanted to adjust my speaker position. since a week a had the impression something is wrong at my setup.. i spend the whole day moving my speakers and my chair today (mainly listening to vinyl with my turntable). at night i decided to put on some spootify music and listened to an herbie hancock album (the same i used for testing during the day). and i was completely confused realizing that the trumpet came out of the left speaker...on my record it came out of my right speaker. i eminently jumped of and jecked my cabes and realized that i plugged in the cables from my turntable into the preamp the wrong way (red to white and white to red) . what can i say, after changing it, EVERYTHING is GREAT! thank you very much for that hint :)

  • @deanm.rosenberg3847
    @deanm.rosenberg3847 Před 4 lety +1

    Words of wisdom. Thanks for pointing these things out to everyone!

  • @pinchmesh8642
    @pinchmesh8642 Před 4 lety +6

    Just something to consider. Try covering the top and sides of the speaker boxes with folded towels or blankets if you have full size speakers. It just amazes me at the difference this makes. Speaker housings DO transmit a LOT of sound.

    • @rickmackay4758
      @rickmackay4758 Před rokem

      Excellent point. Eye in the Sky --- Allan Parsons. The guitar player has a moving blanket over the sides of the speaker box.

  • @denniswade4998
    @denniswade4998 Před 4 lety +4

    I would say "room acoustics" and "consider reviewers, but trust your own ears " to be two of the most essential, especially when just starting out. Then, "buy new music" is an excellent idea for when your system begins to sound "stale". It also keeps your appreciation for music alive. I use Tidal for exploring new artists. I can try them out before purchasing, and have made many new discoveries that way.

  • @astolatpere11
    @astolatpere11 Před 2 lety +2

    Love it! Great advice. Another is don't look at gear individually, break your system into parts: room and speakers; speakers and amp; turntable, tonearm, cartridge and phono preamp, for example. Synergy in each group will make the sum better than the parts.

  • @myboy051
    @myboy051 Před 4 lety +1

    Listening to new music is a must , i do it when listening to my high end SQ system in my truck. It brings me back to saying to myself this sounds amazing !! I love getting that immersive feeling.

  • @TechnoDad
    @TechnoDad Před 4 lety +5

    Great video Ron!!

  • @kcsavers
    @kcsavers Před 4 lety +1

    Your 10 suggestions are excellent! I would add: when you record music samples during equipment test (especially speakers), that is THE most helpful single action to me. Keep them coming, please!

  • @paulaj2829
    @paulaj2829 Před 4 lety

    really enjoyed the video & totally agree with your number one .. hearing is believing .. that is most important to everyone...

  • @CarlosRodriguez-bh6ic
    @CarlosRodriguez-bh6ic Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing video thank you. I'm subscribed!

  • @tombuck
    @tombuck Před 4 lety +4

    #8 is huge. I’ve found lots of companies have good service, but Sweetwater has really blown me away lately. They’re unbelievably helpful. Awesome tips!

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety +2

      Also a Sweetwater fan! Thanks for watching dude!

    • @WeeWeeJumbo
      @WeeWeeJumbo Před 8 měsíci

      Sweetwater are criminally underrated

  • @KortKramer
    @KortKramer Před 4 lety

    Great tips. Thanks Ron. Glad you didn't say to fill speaker stands with tuning forks.

  • @rolandgeorges960
    @rolandgeorges960 Před 3 lety +1

    Exellent presentation, congrats on your great articulation as well.

  • @ChrisMag100
    @ChrisMag100 Před 4 lety +52

    I like to use meatloaf inside my stands. It deadens them and confuses my guests when low bass notes make the room start to smell rancid. What's more punk rock than that?

    • @CrankyBonesGaming
      @CrankyBonesGaming Před 4 lety +4

      I would do anything for sound, but I won't do that
      No, I won't do that

    • @StringerNews1
      @StringerNews1 Před 4 lety +1

      "Throbbing Gristle"

    • @ChrisMag100
      @ChrisMag100 Před 4 lety +1

      @@CrankyBonesGaming lol

    • @NATIVESUNSETS65
      @NATIVESUNSETS65 Před 4 lety

      What's more punk rock than that? Putting a dead rat in there so on the bass notes it makes the room smell like Death and everyone thinks you're a Punk Ass Killer.

  • @cybergod77
    @cybergod77 Před 4 lety +1

    just received the IsoAcoustics Aperta Isolation Stands to try out. Will look into filling out my stands next. Thks for the tips!

  • @johncahill985
    @johncahill985 Před 4 lety +2

    Some really good advice I would add if you can hear gear in your own setup especially speakers

    • @aetch77
      @aetch77 Před 4 lety

      The really good dealers will come to you or loan you kit to audition in your own system as gear can sound quite different in your system compared to the dealer's setup. They want to make sure you're happy customer as you could be spending a lot of money.

  • @contemporaryhomeaudio
    @contemporaryhomeaudio Před 4 lety +51

    Use what is marketed as sandbox or playground sand. It's been cleaned and helps to insure you are not bringing organic matter or living organisms into your house.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety +4

      Thank you for the reminder about this I totally forgot to mention this

    • @alanmaclean7421
      @alanmaclean7421 Před 4 lety +2

      Make sure you dry it in the oven before you pour it in your steel stands, the moisture can cause issues down the road

    • @thejuul8718
      @thejuul8718 Před 4 lety +2

      Use dried silica sand! You can get it already bagged up.

    • @heathhunter5306
      @heathhunter5306 Před 4 lety +1

      No, no, so much no. Play sand has soooooo much mud in it. Sand blast sand is clean. I went through this, as did many when adding sand to an aquarium. It takes hours to clean a gallon of play sand good enough.

    • @contemporaryhomeaudio
      @contemporaryhomeaudio Před 4 lety

      @@heathhunter5306 For an aquarium yes, for a speaker stand not so much. Playground or sandbox sand is safe for a child to put in their mouth. There are no ill effects to using them in a speaker stand.

  • @markaochoa2017
    @markaochoa2017 Před 4 lety +4

    My problem is I always buy music lol. I loved the tips. I’m building a budget hifi system. Thanks for the info!

  • @jeppemichaeljensen2684
    @jeppemichaeljensen2684 Před 4 lety +2

    Great video

  • @cristobalarce
    @cristobalarce Před 4 lety +1

    Excelent video bro, greetings from Mexico City!

  • @Tom_Brennan
    @Tom_Brennan Před 4 lety +1

    Great tips!

  • @rjzlwop3153
    @rjzlwop3153 Před 3 lety

    You’re awesome thank you very much I can’t wait to see you and Randy tackle each other again, I’m looking for a 12 inch shield affordable subwoofer that does not have a ginormous foot prints, any suggestions sealed subwoofer

  • @nicholastolson1699
    @nicholastolson1699 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the new look

  • @allanlee3590
    @allanlee3590 Před 4 lety +1

    love this video😀

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio Před 4 lety +1

    I have an amplifier and speakers with SpeakON connectors.
    Never had the polarity issue.

  • @webking185
    @webking185 Před 2 lety

    CD's, Vinyls are great source of music but youb need a DAC. Tidal, Apple, Amazon Music has a large variety of songs for you to fall in love with your rig again. This is a must for any audiophile.

  • @ruger6049
    @ruger6049 Před 2 měsíci

    ISOAcoustics desktop speaker stands were one of the best investments in my desktop setup. Immediate positive difference.

  • @sidvicious3129
    @sidvicious3129 Před 4 lety +2

    Great advise Ron, but don’t ever forget if you have a local shop, build up a relationship with a local dealer. Great Local dealers are priceless for their experience and when you build up that relationship, spend money with them, they will allow you to take products home. I’m able to do this and no I don’t put a credit card or anything down.
    I walk in tell them what I would like to try, like the Meze Emphyreans and walk out. I try and not waste their time, but I have been dealing with them for over 10 years and everything except my current turntable and one of my two cassette decks were bought there. A great dealer will tell you exactly what Ron said , they won’t tell you what something sound like, which is why they will let you try the equipment out in your home and they will offer services that will bring them out to your home and set the equipment up for you and tune it to your liking with measurement equipment (and set up the room treatment based on the measurements and use lasers to fine tune placement if you prefer this, I have always set up my own stuff. Keep it coming Ron your work, the production and guest are getting better and better. I can’t wait to see your Axpona coverage if you are going this year, which might be hard with the two little editions to the family.

  • @briandunn957
    @briandunn957 Před rokem

    Great video! Love all these. I would say for #10, sometimes beginners don't know what to listen for. Or think "lots of bass" is better, or think "bright = detailed." So it takes time to learn and get accustomed to good sound and what is good and what is not. Like wine newbies not knowing what to evaluate and how to tell a $5 bottle from a $50 bottle. You may have a video like this already, but I would recommend some content around "how to train your ear" and "what to listen for" for people to get better at evaluating speakers, acoustics, and equipment. Keep up the great work! I recently found this channel and quickly subscribed.

  • @awwbollocksthen1359
    @awwbollocksthen1359 Před 4 lety +1

    I have to say a big thank you not just to you but to also CZcams algorithm for bringing you to me, because that was some excellent excellent information, you couldn't be more right with your number one choice because I auditioned two previous set of speakers before I finally found the ones which were right for my ears considering my small room acoustics,!
    One set of them was twice as much as the ones I finally settled on, room acoustics and audios are more subjective than one would have assumed,
    would love to get some extra info from you or from anybody for that matter, would you recommend unscrewing my standmount spikes which are going into my thick carpet, do I really need them or is the plate which is sitting on my
    v thick carpet good enough?

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety +1

      If you have thick carpet, I recommend the spikes for sure!

  • @vinylrulesok8470
    @vinylrulesok8470 Před 3 lety

    Good advice, particularly number 1

  • @rangajiramachandran7979
    @rangajiramachandran7979 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey, great tips, thanks. I have kef t301's . Wall mounted, so the rule of "away from the wall doesn't work me" . What's your input on that? Any way I can make it better. I haven't installed them flat, I have made a little toe in even on the wall mount bracket.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety

      Not much you can do if they are mounted other then mess with toe-in.

  • @trekjudas
    @trekjudas Před 4 lety +25

    The biggest mistake I made was when I first got into the hobby and I kept buying and selling stuff like crazy. I had some good stuff and ended up selling it for stuff that wasn't nearly as good. I was like a junkie trying to get my next fix.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety +4

      Happens to the best of us man!

    • @trekjudas
      @trekjudas Před 4 lety

      @Larry Niles ose are some pretty high end speakers.

    • @QNEGRO1
      @QNEGRO1 Před 4 lety

      just try some Yamaha hs50's with a hs10 subwoofer or just try listening to some Genelec monitors you'll be amazed, espescially for movies or videogames.

    • @ferniefernandez7276
      @ferniefernandez7276 Před 3 lety

      [[

  • @georgeanastasopoulos5865

    Well said.

  • @ThomasAndStereo
    @ThomasAndStereo Před 4 lety +13

    Great advice Ron. I make the same mistake all the time with polarity too!

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety +3

      Thanks Thomas! Happy New Year amigo!

    • @didier5836
      @didier5836 Před 4 lety

      New Record Day hello from Belgium ,
      If I try to the polarity from my speaker, it’s possible to make trouble?
      Thx

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety

      What do you mean?

    • @didier5836
      @didier5836 Před 4 lety

      New Record Day if I change the positive and the negative, can it cause problems with the speakers?

    • @didier5836
      @didier5836 Před 4 lety

      Fat Rat clear 🎧

  • @treyhorn5645
    @treyhorn5645 Před 4 lety +1

    Great vid 👍✌️

  • @apollomemories7399
    @apollomemories7399 Před 4 lety

    Got it sorted with room improvements. All the furniture was hoiked out into a skip. The floor's been stripped out down to substrata soil level. Any ideas how to vacuum a ceiling carpet?

  • @skizzarz
    @skizzarz Před 3 lety

    great tips, speaker angles are another biggie, I like my psb cs-180s straight forward facing in a near-field listening setup, roughly 2 meters apart.

  • @BellTunnel
    @BellTunnel Před 2 lety +1

    Heigh Ho is such an excellent record. Great songs, really well engineered and mastered.

  • @richarddegannes2928
    @richarddegannes2928 Před 4 lety

    Hello, what is your opinion on using an active speaker like ATC SCM 100 for home hifi?
    Would rice placed in speaker stands encourage insects or disintegrate, or smell bad over time?

  • @pabloosvaldopenizzotto1098

    Hi !! Great video! I have made many mistakes after changing my audio system from vintage stereo to up to date digital audio receiver 5.1 . Due to a budget limitation I kept using same 4 speakers I used in The A and B speakers terminals of my stereo. So I assumed that the same speakers position will be good for the Denon AVR1611. Totally wrong and result was terrible. Later on I added a center speaker and setting the other speakers in the right position thing got better. LOL!

  • @pennfootball71
    @pennfootball71 Před 4 lety +1

    i love thiis video ... Great tips

  • @1mctous
    @1mctous Před 4 lety +92

    Trust your ears but listen to live bands whenever you can. It's easy to forget what instruments and voices sound like in real life.

    • @1mctous
      @1mctous Před 4 lety +1

      @Fisher Man My parents named me after Martin of Tours but I respect your point about Martin guitars.

    • @rootz420
      @rootz420 Před 4 lety +1

      Especially if you're an electronic music aficionado.

    • @Theweeze100
      @Theweeze100 Před 4 lety

      Martin Tousignant
      Great point, it is night and day!

    • @nostradumbass4984
      @nostradumbass4984 Před 4 lety +9

      By "live band" I hope you mean live, unamplified, acoustic intruments and a singer not using a microphone. That is what "live" music sounds like. If a band uses a PA system, you are listening to the PA system and not "live" music.

    • @rootz420
      @rootz420 Před 4 lety +4

      @@nostradumbass4984 if you get a good sound guy it makes all the difference. 🤙 but they were talking more about autotuned voices and hearing perfectly mixed and mastered instruments all the time. And someone performing the musical piece live. As in, in person. Not after being touched by 5 or more people in the mix and mastering process, then exported at 44.1k then streamed at an even lower quality on even lower quality speakers. When you go live you get the raw signal from the instruments going directly into a high quality speaker system. It's much different. Its amplification vs recording.

  • @petelyons
    @petelyons Před 3 lety

    A recent mistake I made: I’m just getting back into audio and recently upgraded my speakers from some ancient Polks to the Klipsch rp600m. These were the first speakers I’ve ever owned with dual inputs. At some point as I was playing around with placement and cables I knocked one of the interconnect bars loose. My ears told me something was wrong but it took days to figure out.

  • @rotaks1
    @rotaks1 Před 4 lety

    Would you consider having the moded Klipsch RP 600 Ms reviewed by zero fidelity? Thanks.

  • @skylordsrebornpvpreplays5795

    great vid!👍

  • @katwoodytham8314
    @katwoodytham8314 Před 4 lety

    Hey is ok to put a speaker on a vintage metal stool? or maybe a heavy chimney pot? Should I put something between speakers and stool?

  • @Johnny-Too-Bad
    @Johnny-Too-Bad Před 3 lety +15

    Digital candles? I'm more the analogue candles kind of guy.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 3 lety

      Holy crap that was funny. Well done!

    • @imrulhaque
      @imrulhaque Před 3 lety +1

      They are class D candles. looks cozy, create lights but no heat. welcome to digital era !!! 😝😝😝

  • @spinachhandsjklolsmh9053
    @spinachhandsjklolsmh9053 Před 4 lety +2

    Do you put your bookshelf speakers directly on the stands, or do you put anything in between the speaker and the stand?

    • @chrisvinicombe9947
      @chrisvinicombe9947 Před 4 lety +1

      When I had bookshelve speakers I used blue tack to securely attach them to stands.

  • @The.Home.Cinema.Engineer

    well done!

  • @sgtgrash
    @sgtgrash Před 4 lety +7

    I once owned a pair of Bowers & Wilkins DM2 speakers, 1972 vintage. They looked gorgeous and would normally sound gorgeous too. However, Twinkle toes here decided to fiddle around with the speaker cables behind the system while the amp was still on. I'd bargain that most enthusiasts who are familiar with these lovely speakers know what's coming next.
    The speakers are a three way design, sporting an 8" bextrene coned woofer, Celestion hf1300 tweeter and, last but not least, the venerable, but rather delicate, Coles 4001G super tweeter. I murdered them both, I did. Yes, I am an idiot... So, having cheerfully slaughtered the original forty seven year old items, I ordered a hand built replacement pair from Falcon Acoustics in the UK, and attempted to install them myself. This.... was a mistake! I managed to boil the brand new and rather expensive replacements to death with my soldering iron.
    It was at this point that I decided that the DM2's were probably not meant for a big klutz like me, and I've been rocking a pair of Mission M71's ever since, and they still work, because the Missions are 100% 'ME' proof... 👍🖖

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 4 lety +2

      The mistake you most likely made was not cleaning those old cruddy solder joints before you put an iron on them. Working on old stuff is not the same as working on new stuff. Things happen over the course of time that need to be addressed. Lead and tin solder for example oxidizes exposed to the atmosphere. In the worst case it will get this gray dusty layer on it. But even when you can't see it the oxide on the surface can still have a negative impact on soldering. At 47 years I can just about guarantee the joints were oxidized too. New stuff comes screwed up from the factory today. Because they have to use that lead free garbage. Unless they're aerospace or military contractors. Us poor plebes need to deal with substandard trash. Because reasons. I brighten and tin lead free parts with real solder before I use them. Make Electronics Great Again!

  • @mystudent11
    @mystudent11 Před 4 lety

    I have a question if you are able to answer it for me? If I really cannot move my speakers six feet from the wall Will adding wall absorbing material and sound insulation panels help? If so to what degree. Thank you for all of your brilliant suggestions.

  • @danielwardley4185
    @danielwardley4185 Před 3 lety

    great tips!, yes always listen to new music. and different formats. my tips...let your ears "zero Out" before a listening session, say some thing Lo Fi or mono, listen with lights out..

  • @impuls60
    @impuls60 Před 4 lety +6

    When is the Klipsch stock vs modded vid coming? Really looking forward to it!

  • @devondrayton4006
    @devondrayton4006 Před 4 lety +1

    When you refer walls are you referring to studded drywall walls or all walls. What would you say about the walls in a log house? I live in a log house and the walls don't make any noise. They are completely solid and the house is very quiet and noise dampening compared to drywall. I feel like most sound is quite isolated. Or is keeping the speaker away from the walls also a matter of air gap and pressure and or reflecting noises?

    • @Ronnie.Ericsson
      @Ronnie.Ericsson Před 4 lety

      Devon: It is not about noise from the walls, but walls being mirrors for sound.
      The ear is sensitive to how delayed the mirrored sound is compared to the direct sound from your speakers.
      A bit simplified one could say that if you have your speaker very close to a wall, the wall will act the same as if you added this surface to the speaker itself, resulting in a different tonality than the speaker engineer intended (unless it’s engineered to make use of very nearby walls). The way your left and right speaker combine the sound to fool your ears to think sound is coming from somewhere inbetween them will also be affected.
      Move the speaker out a little from the wall and the sound bouncing off the wall will be arriving at your ears later in time. Your ears will now generally more easily detect where the sound is intended to appear to originate from, given optimal acoustical conditions, but the direct sound combined with the reflected sound may well be less enjoyable.
      Move the speakers further from any reflective surface and the sound will be experienced as even less muddied by the sound bouncing off from your walls. This does not guarantee that long held notes sound good, but increased distance from side walls and softening of the wall surfaces will generally help unmuddy the perceived direction and tonality of the sounds.

  • @chrisssinstockholm
    @chrisssinstockholm Před 4 lety +8

    Spikes only are never right!
    Speakers should be decoupled from the floor with soft material. Not just anything soft. A sylomer type is ideal. The sylomer feets must be adapted to the mass of the speaker. Might be used in combination with spikes though if there is a carpet under the speakers. It's amazing how widespread the spikes BS is.

    • @hifiguy10
      @hifiguy10 Před 4 lety +2

      I find spikes reduce bass from speakers. Best to use isolation pods, like isopods.

  • @carlitomelon4610
    @carlitomelon4610 Před 4 lety +2

    Solid advice 👌
    I filled my Acoustic Energy STAE1 stands with LEAD!
    Spiked to floor and pea sized blobs of BluTak under the KEF LS50s. Heavenly ;-)

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety +1

      Awesome! Good work!

    • @ivenhoho
      @ivenhoho Před 3 lety +1

      Do you listen a lot to Heavy Metal? ;-)

    • @carlitomelon4610
      @carlitomelon4610 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ivenhoho
      Ha! I get it.
      The music? Never!
      Jazz, Reggae, Blues, Folk, Baroque & Classical mostly.
      Actually lead is so heavy/inert you don't hear it, but the blutak is the key. Decoupling from all that mass;-)

    • @ivenhoho
      @ivenhoho Před 3 lety

      @@carlitomelon4610 Yes, the BluTak is a great idea!

  • @wipopsuppipat4442
    @wipopsuppipat4442 Před 4 lety +1

    HA! Polarity definitely got me! Left and right placement too! when setting up I accidentally swapped my active speaker placement, AND put the wrong polarity on top. It took playing a pc game to find out what was going on behind the strangeness. Enemies were ACTUALLY coming from the left but I was always looking right, with the weirdest sound environments. Highly recommend

  • @kadan_gustafson6609
    @kadan_gustafson6609 Před 3 lety +1

    I have my bookshelf speakers sitting on some bricks I found in my back yard with folded paper towels for noise isolation. No need to worry about a hollow speaker stand when it's filled with hardened clay.

  • @Youthman
    @Youthman Před 4 lety +81

    Fantastic list and great video Ron. Love your content brother.

  • @Davidbrompton58
    @Davidbrompton58 Před 4 lety +1

    The biggest difference I have made to my system is the addition of audiophile power cables, I have modest system comprised of Cambridge, NAD and Yamaha components and Polk audio speakers, but decided to splash out on some cardas clear beyond power cables, for them, as of course the power going into the components is the most important thing, the difference is amazing, I was instantly enchanted.

    • @arvo648
      @arvo648 Před 4 lety +4

      The biggest mistake is buying magic power cords.

  • @dmtphone
    @dmtphone Před 4 lety

    @9:18 once you get things dialed in use some sort of marking system to make positioning them again easy. I used dots of clear nail polish (on my hard floors, some dot of velcro may be required for carpets) to avoid having to measure or experiment every time I want to listen. I have the best position marked and its no fuss to set them up. I found that when i had to measure every time it simply cut into listening time enough I was hesitant to do it. Now it is so easy and simple it only takes 1 minute to position both towers correctly in a repeatably good position.

  • @kennethdias9988
    @kennethdias9988 Před 3 lety +1

    The yapo calibration process of my Aventage receiver identifies cross wired speakers

  • @bigjay1970
    @bigjay1970 Před 4 lety +1

    Just might go to World wide stereo today!😇🤗😉😬

  • @dell177
    @dell177 Před 4 lety

    A couple of months ago I bought some new intereconnects to improve the sound of my system. When I went to install the one that went from the DAC to the preamp had the DAC output for one channel and the coax DAC input connected to the preamp!! The coax input was right below the pair of analog outputs.
    never underestimate your ability to screw things up The balance problem I thought I had with the new dac was fixed!

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety

      Wow! Thanks for sharing your experience! I’ve made similar mistakes myself!

  • @robh9079
    @robh9079 Před 4 lety +1

    I have some metal hollow equipment stands - a bit fiddly to fill with sand/rice, so I drilled a couple of small holes in each 'compartment' and filled with expanding foam, which may be preferable to the 'low mass' brigade anyway.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety

      Clever idea! Did it make an improvement?

    • @robh9079
      @robh9079 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Newrecordday2013 Can't say I noticed anything out'stand'ing (soz!) though neither did I go for analysing the change - just regarded it as 'good housekeeping' . Definitely sounds dead with the hammer test without adding mass...I think Kimber is of the antimassite persuasion and possibly Audio Note with their platters. Someone should saw up some 'Torlyte' and do a diy version perhaps?

  • @christianfrancke
    @christianfrancke Před 4 lety

    Tip #3 question: How do you move your speaker back and forth? Mine weight 48 Kg. I already went to the DIY shop and got some ideas but how do you do it?

  • @peterprimes497
    @peterprimes497 Před 4 měsíci

    Would using soft white vinyl erasers between my speakers & the stand top plates act like a cheap alternative to iso acoustics isolation feet?

  • @davidbruce3632
    @davidbruce3632 Před 2 lety

    Have you tried kinetic (play) sand. I used it on my monoprice 28 inchers. No Ringing and the stands are dead heavy.

  • @johnhpalmer6098
    @johnhpalmer6098 Před 4 lety +1

    Hay Ron, great video and some good tips, but one I'd suggest should be near the top, at least is GET YOUR SPEAKERS OFF THE FLOOR. That is, if you have large bookshelves like I do (vintage ADS L810 speakers) that stand 25.5" high or so, get them off the floor onto low stands of 12-15", ideally tilted back slightly about 3* for proper dispersion.
    This is also to reduce the bass node/boominess that can occur when speakers sit right on the floor. Too many do this and then wonder why their bass is boomy. This goes for most speakers, bass reflex or acoustic suspension or passive radiator is that the upper bass can get over emphasized and with some speaker designs, can sound chestiness in the mid to lower midrange area, not necessarily a good thing.
    But in the real world, some of us don't have the option (at all) to move our speakers out into the room as far as you'd like. For me, it's due to doorways and a small room I have to work in (stereo sits on the LONG wall as it's the ONLY spot for it as I have the entrance to the front hall, and the kitchen at both ends of the living room to contend with). Besides, it could be much worse.
    I do have them at minimum 15" from the back wall so that helps, even if they sit close to the corners, but just getting them OFF the floor helps. Bass is tight, articulate and musical.
    Anyway, a good list overall.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the advice and adding to the conversation! Super helpful!

  • @markwasilow2757
    @markwasilow2757 Před 3 lety

    Ron, how much of sand did you put into the stands? 100% or 2/3rds?

  • @justplanefred
    @justplanefred Před 2 lety

    Once you find the proper placement of the speakers is that going to be the proper place for all speakers you ever replace them with in that space?

  • @mpitogo
    @mpitogo Před 4 lety +2

    Hilarious! Happy New Year!

  • @markielinhart
    @markielinhart Před 3 lety +1

    Fabulous video Ron. Oh yes we’ve all made mistakes but they’re usually fixable unless you’re greatly out of pocket - it’s sometimes a FOMO thing ain’t it. Auditioning gear is a great idea if it’s possible and do take some of your music with you when you do... ✌️🇦🇺

  • @bmj4052
    @bmj4052 Před 4 lety

    About how many lbs of rice, kitty litter, etc would fill average size stands?

  • @no_bull
    @no_bull Před 2 lety

    lovely video there mate! well i can honestly say i have done all of the above mistakes...without a doubt..one very important thing is the speaker toe-in angles or how far apart between they are can make a strong audible difference. Time is the best teacher i guess.
    I do really need to invest in good speaker isolators for my Tannoy Revolution speakers. Should have done it long time ago but i did not because they were placed on a carpet. No vibration issues there but now my living room has floorboards so its like a one way street. Must get those isolators asap

  • @MarkWentsel
    @MarkWentsel Před měsícem

    My speaker stands are mdf but my speakers are almost 30 lbs each. Would you still recommend filling them?

  • @StephenMendes
    @StephenMendes Před 4 lety +4

    As one who has spent most of my life MAKING MUSIC (that you guys might listen to) I endorse all 10 points.... it's sound advice ( pun 🙂) ..... I have had controversial arguments on my channel over "analog" versus "digital" ..... and after it's all over .... people simply have to go with what sounds good to them.... but they should also accept that psychoacoustic perception affects their conclusion and admit that scientific testing is the only 'ultimate reality' of what actually exists in the world...... as a University lecturer in Electronics (and with background in sound engineering and music) it is my job to EDUCATE the public .... which is how I ultimately ended up on your interesting channel.... good show .... keep it up....

    • @akeelshah7904
      @akeelshah7904 Před 3 lety +1

      yeah agree with you i prefer analogue sound because its warm but my sibling loves colder digital sound, its probably due to ear shape and preferred taste

    • @StephenMendes
      @StephenMendes Před 3 lety +1

      @@akeelshah7904 just music taste is correct..... it doesn't have anything to do with ear shape 😂

    • @akeelshah7904
      @akeelshah7904 Před 3 lety +1

      @@StephenMendes in music setups cant underestimate anything 😂😂 i mean those custom to ear moulded in ear headphones have to be invented for more than just comfort right but yeah 😂😂😂 we'll learn as we experiance

  • @respectgod3302
    @respectgod3302 Před 4 lety

    Concerning height of floorstands vs the height of floorstanding speakers. If we go by tweeter height then it would seem most floorstanding speakers were not designed with that in mind.
    What say you?

  • @klewja
    @klewja Před 4 lety

    Ron can you get in some Magico speakers for review?

  • @paulwibb.8944
    @paulwibb.8944 Před 4 lety +1

    Good advice,, subbed,👍

  • @bujoun76
    @bujoun76 Před 3 lety +1

    My original (audio) sin was the same as most people's.
    "Plug & play"!
    It took me years to figure out that I had a menu built into my gear.

  • @NonPremiumID
    @NonPremiumID Před 4 lety +1

    Good idea and smarter to fly to a shop, or doing a try before buy, tthen paying big and not listening to them in your room and not being happy and having to haul them back.