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The founder and CEO of Ness Corporation Naz Circosta takes us on a personal tour of the companies impressive worlds class surface mount and through hole manufacturing facility where they produce hundreds of different Ness security and automation products.
It's no every day the CEO of a major company has the technical knowledge to take you on such a tour of their own production facilities!
He shows the Yamaha SMD/SMT pick and place machines, solder stencil paste machine, flying probe testers, optical vision inspection equipment, custom test jigs, and plastic ultrasonic welding machines. And also talks about buying a $1M Objet 3D printer, and the advantages of genuine high quality Fresnel lenses vs cheap generic ones in PIR sensor performance.
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This must be one of the best videos on the channel.
The CEO seemed like a genuinely nice person that knows and loves his job, and talking about it without the typical corporate / marketing BS and secrecy.
Combine that with the right questions from Dave and *boom*, pure awesomeness.
Definitely one of the best, but for me the TV Transmitter tour beats them all :)
Peter AndCat absolutely ,it was magnifficent ,amassing !
ungratefulmetalpansy i hope you're wrong... Because i still belive that only that kind of people can achieve something in this life.
Yeah, I don't think many CEOs would have mentioned they've had a 30% failure rate for a product.
@@shadow7037932 Depends on what your product is. If it is something where that failure rate may be expected, either because of how hard it is to manufacture or because of the price, it is just common sense to be open and honest. If the truth will eventually come out regardless, there is no point in lying.
I worked for NESS in the late 80s and Naz was a very caring gentlemen. He ran a family orientated business and truly cared for his staff, the quality of the product and the customer. Its where I first learned how to program assembly for Motorola(64HC11) and z80 (64180) architectures working as an electronic tech (thanks to a temporary journey into Malloch Digital Design and the series 200). I can attest to the fact when Naz uses statements like 'girls on the production line' he means it in the most endearing way. Great to see NESS still doing so well after all these years. A testament to great leadership and a belief in your team and product. Well done Naz.
mekatrol oriented. Orientated is not a word.
@@antney1108 dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/orientated
@@antney1108 America is not a verb.
When I was 20 years old back in 1995 I was working at a small board manufacturer who made 800 - 1000 boards a month. Yes they were that small. We didn't use any automation. We printed our own boards, etched them, tin plated them and then placed each component by hand and soldered them one joint at a time. That was fun times... The closest thing to automation we had was a process (I think it was called solder dipping) where we placed all the components into a single sided board and then literally dipped the solder side into molten solder and soldered all the joints at the same time...
I kinda miss them days...
A year later, I just watched one of the best walkthroughs on youtube!
I want more of these long and technical walkthroughs, were you actually learn something, and not just get fed some PR.
On top of that, a CEO who knows in detail how and what they are making, Love it!
Time for a retour soon? :)
Thank you very much for this!
Wow, very rare for a CEO to know his own stuff so in depth. Typically a CEO would NEVER agree to a walk around of the plant explaining every single process lol Good on him...that is why he is so successful. In this day and age it is refreshing to see some competence in business!
You are back on track. Thanks for the good effort.
Do not get upset by negative comments. They could be most useful
This is absolutely incredible. It's some Transcendence level stuff, and to think a lot of that equipment is "old" hardware. I wonder what a state of the art system looks like. Kudos for this company for letting Dave have a look. I've never seen a tour like this before, but always wanted to see one. If someone knows of other tours like this they know of I'd love to watch them!
edit: would be especially interested with a tour of someone like this CEO who's extremely knowledgeable about the systems and a videographer like Dave who knows the best questions, I know this is specific, but I honestly never saw a tour like this before.
I work in the SMT, nice to see other brands of machines used.
Maybe the guy should also invest in solder paste inspection as well, might yield a better result on SMD soldering, since some of the SMD problems are caused by small paste errors in as well...
We do own a AOI system to check every pcb on paste and placement errors, might be interesting to get one of those flying probe testers as well..
I would suggest you try and make it into a series. You know, maybe once a month or two, go there and have a more in depth discussion with Ness, or someone else from his stuff about different aspects of manufacturing. Since everything there is done in-house, there is wide range of things to talk about! From design and prototype testing, to software and user interface etc... I can easily see it being some of the most popular videos in your vlog!
Give a like if you want more of these videos!
Mmmm ......... this interview is great , but this guy is a manufacturer , not a college . May be a college should be set up along side & let this guy get back to what he sounds very enthusiastic about , manufacturing good , sorted , electronics . But it would be nice to see this as an annual event , once a year , in the grass root of manufacturing , in its undergrowth .
I would like to see his thinking on the "green" challenge & the de manufacturing of this product . Should we be looking forward to end to end manufacturing , in which this guy also has facilities to pull the kit apart again , lazer desoldering , oven flash heating with component hoovering ?
I have been using Ness gear for 3 decades, reliable, bullet proof and built with Aussie pride, thanks for the video.
Are you kidding me? This was just jam packed with knowledge and inspiration. IF THAT didn't make you love/appreciate the manufacturing process and what goes into it, and how good and smart and thorough processes and management CAN MAKE YOU in an industry, and make great things, beautiful/cheap/reliable things possible and consistent... WHAT WILL???
IMO Dave you cannot do TOO MANY of these types of tours.
Hell, if you wanted to start a funding campaign to pay your way to Asian countries for some type of comparison tours and to show the working conditions there... I'd be in for something like that too.
Completely agree!
DAVE! Just let the man explain his craft! You don`t need to finish his sentences.
Still.. good video :)
Fascinating! Really appreciate Naz Circosta's hospitality. It's not everyday that we can see the magic. Wonderful!
Really enjoyed this video. It would be great to see more plant tours similar to this one. Special thanks to the Naz for taking time to lead the tour.
When I saw the part with the passthrough, when they looked at the stencils, I thought OK they removed a piece of the line so they could film stuff easier. I hope they get it put back before the next board comes through. And then what, an extendable transfer system!!!! Who thinks of this stuff!?
It's already a somewhat older video, but big big big thumbs up. Not only a must see for every engineer who is involved in this field, but also for the very good questions, documentation and mostly the extremely honest response from Ness.
I know a lot of companies who bury themselves in all kind of weird 'secrets', which may be voodoo for unknown people, but are just a big joke for the insiders.
The attitude of this company is pretty straightforward. They are not going to pretend they have weird 'special' equipment. No they just simple have the skills, know how and are smart. That's where you can make the difference, even in western countries.
To bad it's on the other side of the world for me.
Two men that love their craft and they both want to show off a little bit about it. Great video.
please stop interrupting the guest
Don Wald yeah
Exactly what I came here to comment.
Yep, yep, yep... this was a great video. While some of you were critical of Dave, let's just say he doesn't have to do these videos and you don't have to watch them. In general, a lot of people would get a lot out of the video he hosts himself or has guest hosts. As for Ness, to be honest I did not know much about his company except his product range. Now given Ness takes pride in manufacturing in Australia, I am stunned Australian politicians are not taking serious notice of him, his philosophies and his business and trying to replicating it many times over in Australia rather than outsourcing to Asia or taking in foreign workers en masse.
Dave mate, take on the advice of the many comments here, punch out the informative videos and promote Aussie engineering. In our era if we wanted to learn electronics, we had Dick Smith's, Talking Electronics, Electronics Australia, etc... one by one they are all dying out... your videos will live on... luckily for my 3yo son, when he grows up he will have some resources to look over.
Thanks Naz for taking the time to show us an Aussie company doing great things here @Home and realising there's more to the cost of doing business than just finding the cheapest place to have boards built !
Best video ever. Would love to see more of this.
Great video Dave!
And thanks so much to Ness for allowing you to make the video and upload it.
It great to see some companies still have pride in their engineering.
Motorcycles, pianos, and also pick-and-place machines, Yamaha does everything!
Great Video Dave! Thanks... :)
I'm a fitter & turner by trade & used to work at Clipsal (Gerard Industries) in Bowden, South Australia up until 1997. I worked on mostly injection mold manufacture/maintenance, but knew the press tool guys & across most of the manufacturing process from raw materials, through to finished goods.
I spent 12.5 years at Clipsal & it was very educating. When I left they'd been using rapid prototyping for about 4 years & CNC machines for about 8 years...
It's still fascinating to me, but I'm glad I got out of it... Cheers!
I have no idea about the electronics manufacturing, but I found this video extremely interesting. Thank you.
Naz for Prez! What a great tour and such a gracious CEO to take us through. Thanks for this Dave. Love all your videos but this one is a stand out for me.
Hi Dave
Thought this video was one of your best, especially as it was so connected to my place of work.
I work as a test engineer for a firm with assets that try to emulate what was in the video.
Unfortunately they don't come close although they do produce good stuff but on a budget.
I was familiar with the SMT process and was interested to notice that their test gear from YesTech was something we use but was called 'Yes Tek'
This gear was somewhat more compact, maybe an earlier design.
There is more I can say on this video and might do that in the future.
Thanks fort this.
That's an immensely interesting video!
He touched a very wide variety of interesting subjects!!!!
Hats off!!!
Excellent tour. Thank you for taking us along.
I loved it! Glad you were able to make this video.
I cant believe he let you into his factory, let alone film and ask all those hard questions, well done, I will be looking for ness PIR's in the future ...
the CEO is really a great guy, he knows his stuff and be really proud of his company. really great.
This was a great tour, nice to know you have such a fantastic facility on your doorstep. Awesome stuff.
Really enjoyed this thanks to all of you for taking the time to make this!
Fantastic stuff! Great tour - thanks Dave and thank you Naz!
It is great to see an Australian company doing so well and keeping it in Australia! Good on you Ness Corp.
Thanks Dave for another fantastic video. Really helped me understand some of the little parts of the process I did not understand before (including the fiducial tips), and some of the equipment in there is absolutely amazing. Also happen to be doing a report on the assembly process for college and it's gave me plenty to talk about!
Thanks for the tour Dave! Nice...
Excellent video. Thanks for the tour Dave and Naz!
My experience, smaller companies are the innovators. Why? Because they have to. They have to engineer themselves a reputation and design products that will captivate buyers. The big guys in many cases are riding their coat tails.
Awesome stuff! Thanks a lot Dave & Ness! Such a great insight.
Thank you for letting me watch the factory. I wish you success in your business.
What an awesome tour and a brilliant explanation of the process by both CEO & Dave!
Awesome, Thanks a million Dave for that interview
45:32 😆 The look on his face! ....He really wasn't feelin the plant tour at first, but he got into it.
"Showing off.. yep". Very high quality tour, if stuff like this would be broadcasted on tv, then I would probably buy one.
This has been one of the most enjoyable and informative videos thus far Dave, the collective "we" would probably have never had such an opportunity see such a production line like this, Thank you SO much.
Once again, a great video and a good update on what the industry in up to. Thanks Dave.
I admire the CEO for having such an in-depth knowledge of his own facilities. He's like Elon Musk in that respect. Terrific commitment.
Still a fantastic video......would love to see Dave revisit Ness now it's 5 years later.
Absolutely amazing. I know there's bigger/more advanced places, but it's hard to believe such tech exists.
Thanks Dave! HUGE thanks to Ness for allowing you to film this.
This is my kind of reality TV. Thanks, Dave and Naz. ;)
Dave..this Video is much better in the sense that there is less blurring when you scan the camera left or right.
The first Video was still watchable..
I was enlightened by the testing methods and the Fresnel Lens info.
Thank for this to you and Naz.
That was REALLY interesting Dave, thanks!
I love these field trip video's. I also really enjoyed the one at the TV transmitter.
More of this!!!! :)
Nothing short of amazing. Highly educational. Brilliant company must have a brilliant mind behind it. And being Australian is a definite signature to the good meticulous work involved. Thanks Dave.
Loved the video, really interesting. Big respect to that CEO for his knowlage, ability to explain and taking the time.
Dave .... That was a great tour/vid ! I had been on a similar tour to a factory out in Quebec Canada, but yours was more fun and informative by far ... Thanks
Man, freaking awesome tour/interview.
What I like most is that you can talk back and forth with the people. Other video tours are pure self-promotional videos, they monologue showing only what they want, "look how expensive the equipment is"...
But here you can talk about design, ask questions about cost not to try to get internal info but to understand the impact of choosing components, good panel design, or what they have to do when required to use a commodity component of a particular brand.
Amazing, thanks Dave ;)
I worked at a Motorola factory before that had similar but much larger machines. I was given the task of locating those part reels for the people running the machines. I learned a lot of this during my time there, but man is it nice to see everything again. Thanks for the video!
Fab video, takes me back to my days in the PCB assy game. This was pansert thru hole and programming of bed of nails test.
Thank you!
Looks very nice! Glad to see the level where the technology has reached.
I wish more CEO's were like him. Seriously a great video, really enjoyed hearing about the whole process & challenges.
Thanks for the video tour, very interesting peek behind the scenes!
Absolutely amazing video Dave! Thank you!
long time viewer first time commenter.
that flying probe machine is utterly amazing... blew my mind!
Wow, I remember working with mydata equipment... loading the magazine jobs only. That was a couple moons ago! Thanks for showing the whole picture.... Of coarse I learned much of this myself and by working with co-workers... but profiling is a science all by itself... 2xsided is tricky! Then off to through hole, hence another profile. We finally got it to test later on in my career 0- see smoke or not, and to repair if time allowed, Dave, I had a great deal of fun each day! My company got me to move around, and I will never forget that!
Excellent video! Engineer to engineer pulls out the depth that makes this very informative.
This is a great walkthrough of the NESS pcb factory, very informative.
I like the 50fps. I can actually notice the difference and it feels a lot smoother.
60fps is even better. Especially since its a standard for digital displays.
What a nice and knowledgable chap he is and what a great facility !
Super awesome, very insightful. As someone that dreams of starting an electronics manufacturing company, resources like this are invaluable.
This is the factory that produced that alarm system control panel board with the burnt component you showed last week, you promised us a factory tour and you did it! ;-D
That was a great tour, many thanks!
Wow, back in the day this would have been done by tens-to-hundreds of women.
"Thank you Nas" for allowing Dave (and the world) to see your operation
Hey, I'd like to humbly propose we transition away from (perhaps unintentionally) equating women to cheaper, unskilled labor. There were a lot of males in there too, after all. Not to be the PC Police or anything, but it's one of those things that tends to subtly alter the general perception of gender roles in technical fields. We would all be better off to normalize female involvement in traditionally male-dominated industries, and this is as good a place to start as any.
OK, I'll step off my soapbox now. Carry on. :-)
My comment was not intended to slam women at all. I worked on electronic assembly lines for a few years (Electrohome Canada was one such place) and can tell you that only women can focus on stuff like this for a long periods of time -AND- also keep the error rates close to zero. Men are unable to do this for properly for even short periods -AND- their error rates are much higher
Your comment didn't come across as disrespectful at all, and yeah, technically not inaccurate. I'm just hoping to unseat some long-standing assumptions and stereotypes so the next generation gets to pick their contribution instead of having roles pre-defined for them. That's all. :-)
FWIW, it wasn't even totally directed at you -- I cringed a little every time our esteemed guest referred to his workers as "girls." It seems insignificant, but those things tend to have this sort of ripple effect. So I thought I would see if I can nudge it a little. Thanks for not taking offense -- none intended.
Nick Guy it is well known fact that statistically woman are better in the manufacturing lines, because they get less tired of repetitive job and do less errors
Maybe, but statistically, that could have more to do with personality types that are compatible with structured work environments than gender. It's easy to assume causality where there's only coincidence.
I understand there are differences between sexes -- just the balance of testosterone and estrogen could have subtle (or not) effects on a mental approach to some tasks. Still, I think it's a good idea to avoid casual associations between gender (and other demographic categories) and the work that one expects someone of that category to do -- if for no other reason than to not influence someone, who doesn't fit that association, away from what they might otherwise want to do.
Sorry if this comes off preachy. It's not meant to. Just an opinion. :-)
Fascinating. I work in and around these machines daily, I wondered what other places might look like.
that pcb testing machine is mind blowing 21:34 not just the probes but the automatic mode test switching (continuity, capacitance, resistances.. etc) that are set on the fly... they bought this machine many years ago, speaking.. in 2014
Thanks Dave and CEO, very good video
Thanks, really enjoyed the tour...
very nice. Thank you Naz and Dave :)
As a college EE student in early 1980s, I worked a month hand placing parts at board manufacture and it was a horrible, tedious job. For slightly above minimum wage, you sat at a table of 8 people, with a 8 to 10 parts each, counting through holes, placing your parts, and passing it to the next person. Most of the workers spoke English as a second language, and majority female. After an 8 hour shift, I left with blurred vision and mentally exhausted. I greatly respected the people who did this for years and years. Glad automation has eliminated a lot of drudgry.
Wonderful tour, many thanks! :)
Very interesting tour, thanks for posting
Very nice tour and video Dave
nice tour dave!.
Excellent information. The "yep, yep, yep" didn't bother me much like it did some of the other folks.
Very good material. Thanks!
This is a fantastic video! Good work Dave.
Awesome,
He really is involved, and this is very interesting.
Jean-François
That was awesome and insightful! Thanks for sharing!
Awesome stuff. More power to ness and their approach to building a product to last. Very rear nowadays.
the automated testing is absolutely amazing
I now think I know why some boards direct from China are so cheap (besides using cheaper components). They probably don't do any testing.
Very interesting! Thanks for showing!
Great CEO, and great tour!
This is a man who is passionate about his craft and a all round nice guy. I would love my product to use NESS pcbs
i stayed with it to the end, one of the better, / best video , i have seen on smt " surface mount technology " smd, " surface mount device " excellent, CEO, you got a gold star operation going for you, Major kudos, thanks David.
Really interesting, cheers Dave!
very informative, thanks for posting
Very nice series, don't skip a frame of it.
Fascinating. Enjoyed that a lot.
dave, thanks so much for Posting this video. it is very good!
My, so detailed, for such a video, thanks major Dave.