STOP Using The Raspberry Pi 5 For Gaming!
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- In this video we discuss whether Raspberry Pi should be your first choice for emulation gaming or if you should seek out alternative options!
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I have one big problem with this kind of comparison - you never mentioned the biggest advantage of the Pi, which is low power consumption.
This is it. 5v 3a runs my pi and 7in elecrow display. screen uses 5v 0.74a and pi uses 5v 1.8a. A phone charger or the outlet in my vehicle will provide enough power. I also made a solar battery pack so I have games during hurricane season. Battery holds 32hrs of charge and the small solar panel will 100% the battery in 2hrs
@@Paul_______But in the name of ewaste.... Who cares.🥸
Unfortunately the processor is 16nm. I think it won't be the best
or heat but yeah in my case I'm willing to sacrifice some extra heat and power consumption for a lot more performance. it seems arm (linux) isn't quite at the level I was hoping. I'm looking forward to a future where we have an equivalent to the M1-M4 on linux (with the software to match)
If you go the n100 route the thing has 6W TDP. The older refurbished will draw more power...
But a pi 5 at 5V with 1.8A...I doubt it, unless you are doing some not so demanding tasks (or no fan and pretty hefty thermal throttling!) - there is a reason pi 5 should be run with the 27W power supply.
Tasu... maybe you should learn what a processor architecture is and what an operating system. ARM is not Linux...let me tell you a little secret Apple M Chips are ARM AND Mac OS is a unix based OS, just like...Linux.
I gave away my Pi4 as a birthday gift just before the price gouging began. I was so turned off by the markups, I moved on and bought 3 different retired office mini-PCs that emulated more systems that my Pi4. I also got into the Batocera front-end on my PCs, and haven't looked back.
Yes that's 100% the way to go and what I did several years back
I retired a Pi4 for a Beelink mini pc, for my emulation, haven't looked back or regretted the move.
About the same here. Except, that my Pi4 is now my Pimiga.
I use a Pi4 with a Pi2 Scart for retro on a CRT but I went the mini PC route too.
yeah it no longer makes sense, when you add all the extra goodies like case, fan, power supply, Micro SD Card you almost hit the price of a mini PC but with inferior performance.
I did the same ryzen 7 5700 got it for under $200 a few months back
Which Beelink Mini PC do you all recommend ?
I agree brother. The only pi that I'll be grabbing is a plate of apple pie with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. PC emulation is the way to go!
PC fo lyfe huh? Why does everyone have to pretend they are "done" with this or that because they cant get it at MSRP? Impatient idiots keep the flippers flipping, nothing you can do about it.
When i can get a Pi5 with a case and for 50 bucks ill pick one up, as will you. No big deal. The Pi4 was the holy grail of video games when it came out, i didn't need anything else to be honest. And now we have FPGA, which is what im most excited about going forward.
Excellent breakdown. I faced this decision in September. After reviewing Pi prices vs a mini tower I paid $101 on Amazon for a refurbished mini tower and it's been hosting Batocera in my cab ever since. Turned out it wasn't much of decision after all.
Anxious to see what this video going to show us. I have a RBPi 3B+ for emulation but now got a Pi 5 for the same reason. Just experiemnting things. I think this'll be my second and last Pi I buy. Mini PC's are litteraly stealing that spot as bein the perfect machines for emulation.
Exactly!
I bought a Raspberry Pi 3B+ branded as a retro gaming system preloaded with more than "23,000" (claimed lol) games on a micro sd card back in 2017 and I had no regrets buying it for $99. But then about 2yrs ago, I came across a couple of CZcams videos showing emulation on a mini pc that was playing PS3 games, so I bought one last year and let me tell you, it's the only way to go for retro gaming! It can play all the games the Raspberry Pi can and more, I mean come on, I'm playing PS3 games on it and that is NOT something you can do on a Pi lol!👍
Mini PC'S are the best way to go. You pay a little more, but the performance speaks for itself
For sure!
Trying to get composite 240p out of a PC is a pain.
It's not as simple as just not using it for gaming. More like you can use it for gaming projects that also involve using the GPIO (such as an arcade cabinet, controlling a pinball machine, slot machine, etc).
…nah. I’m going with the pi.
U should make more videos of how to set up mini pcs into a retrogaming like a pi
As a beginner with the Raspberry Pi I considered going for a mini PC but there are still 3 big bonuses for the Raspberry pi 5. 1. DGPIO for learning with sensors 2. Power draw. 3. Massive support/guides available
I've always been a bit skeptical buying used/refurbished or even new (with these new-ish companies) mini-pcs. Mostly paranoid about them coming with viruses and/or spyware. The recent news about spyware for the AceMagic mini-pcs frankly isn't helping. The pi is fully open source, no bios, no storage, so it seems less risky. Also, if you are patient and live near a distributor such as microcenter, you can pick up a pi at MSRP.
That's why you format the drive first
Great video, very informative and well explained. We have reached a point in retro emulation where (almost) everything can be run quite well if you have hardware that's good enough. Any computer that struggles with N64/psp games (PI4), or even Wii ones (PI5), should be discarded and never considered as a retrogaming platform. Expecially if its cost goes into Mini Pc territory.
That orgasm around 21:30 really sold HP Elitedesk for me! 😂
i guess we know what his o-face looks and sounds like 😭
I think it's relative choice. Pi or other systems better bang for buck. Pi and other arm sbc simplicity and small and not as much grunt. I run both setups. Pc has more components to fail vs my pi setups. Just write sd card and chuck it in and I'm done... nothing else to do or worry about. For Implicitly and limited power I go pi, but for bang for buck I go Pc. I been emulation since late 1980s , so I'm no stranger to this stuff so to speak. Sbc systems are overrated but they have there place. What I hate is all the people giving credit to clowns who release images of emulators and roms with scraped videos and box art. WTF. Did these people write the emulators? Did these people write the gui / front end? Did these people rip the roms fro. Real hardware ? Etc etc.
Oh wait they downloaded some roms or got a hd off someone who has collected for 30 years or more.
Then here comes the hard work...... select do you want to scrap data for roms . Phew hard work, I wish I had that skill level.
Thanks for this incredibly helpful video. I had a pi build previously, but after watching this I tracked down a elite desk and followed your other tutorial for setting up with batocera. It works so much better than what I was using and was a breeze to set up.
buying all the bits and making it up is part of the fun. (Like all customisations) If you still want that SBC fun/hobby board, look at the X1 $99 USD OR The Radxa X2L SBC @ $42 USD (despite the benchmarks) BOTH way outperform Pi5 for Retro gaming and being X86 run windows 10/11/Retrobat/Batocera or Linux build easily.
Everything you've shown me, cost 2 - 3 times as much as a pi5 does in Canada. A full desktop is also way too large for the project I am working on atm also.
I think it depends on the prices of things at the time, location, and more.
The main reason for retro gaming with the Pi IMO is connecting it to a CRT with 240p output resolution.
That's what i was thinking. How do you get RGB Scart out of those mini PCs?
My arcade cabinet is running a rpi4 since its launch; it works perfectly and it wasn't expensive at that time.
That's awesome! I have api powered wall mounted arcade too. I have absolutely nothing against the raspberry pi's I just think for those looking to get something today I'd go a different direction but for those that got them at the great price points in the past they certainly work great for the retro stuff. My wall mounted cabinet plays everything up to some n64 Dreamcast and psp though I don't usually play those on there. Mario kart 64 I will say can be a blast on an arcade setup though.
Thank you so much for giving some options, as well as a breakdown of what to look for.
Any time
I bought one and then bought a hat so I could attach an m2 drive. It’s fun to play with but for retro gaming, I would go for one of those nifty mini-pcs you’ve been showing. I was on a list before launch so I got the pi for normal price.
Prolly valid for USA only - full stocks in Europe of any RPI5 ( yes, some limitations like Limited to maximum 12 per customer :D ) with proper RRP
I watched many micro PC videos. Retro Gaming reviewed a HP Elite desk , AMD Ryzen 5 pro, 2400G with Vega Graphics 3.6 GHz. 16GB RAM. Windows 10 pro. 250GB SSD drive , HDMI, Bluetooth. WIFI. cost around $160.00. I have retro bat runing on ext hard drive. I also added Audials 2024 for recording streams.
this PC has become my main PC. Retro Gaming showed his setup running batocera. I prefered to stay windows . but I really want to thank Retro Gaming for the video. I love my PC. I have been using this PC since 10/3/23
This was an amazing video. Love the breakdown.
If you're buying a Pi as an SBC mini PC, you're in it for the wrong reason. There are way better options out there for not that much more money once you equip out a Raspberry Pi.
The EM680 can be had for $400 with a 512GB NVMe SSD and 32GB of LPDDR5 6400MT RAM which will run circles around the Pi 5, any mini/micro SFF office PC, or SBC on the market all while consuming as little as about 20-25W if you lower the package TDP. Icing on the cake is the EM680 has a smaller footprint than a Raspberry Pi and is about the same thickness as the average Raspberry Pi feature case(barebones cases like the official one are slightly thinner)
Only issue is outputting to a CRT TV. Good luck with any of the options mentioned.
@MissMuffin-qc8fc Using a converter will add input lag and is an awful choice. Try again. This would need a component or VGA based hat device instead
I picked up a Beelink EQ 12 with the N100 & 16gb DDR5 for $150 on a lightning deal
I went backwards; I saw an ad for the Pironman 5 case on Facebook and I was like "omg tiny tower case" so I built a Pi 5 around one, for no specific reason other than curiosity. For anyone who's done console emulation on any PC even semi-modern, it would blow this thing away. Going from Dreamcast silky fluid in 4K on a gaming rig to "keep it near native" VGA on this thing.. ugh. The NUC-likes are a substantially better option.
This video is misleading when it comes to availability. You're right about the rest of the video and for some reason my comments keep getting deleted :/
Honestly for the Pi5, I would be getting 256GB SD card minimum, probably even 512. Wii and PS2 games are all 5GB a piece. 128GB will basically only get you 20 games or so from those consoles when you consider the space needed for the install and that gives you no room for Dreamcast, Saturn and PS1 games which (while not as big) will still take up 10+ GB each for a decent library.
Used to be Pie Guy 😅
Great video. Thank you. Recently you did a video on the retro shooter and recommended pairing it with a mini pc and the Kris Cool mod. Would one of these mini pc’s work for that setup? Thanks again
Thanks! I use the kamrui am08 which is pretty good I won't say perfect for it but it gets you through 90% of what it offers. The beelink ser6 max would be better I think if you're looking at mini PCs
I say no now as well. I wanted Pi4 with POE hats for my homelab setups. What I found out is Rpi burn through their SD cards quick. I had 3D printed a 2U 12pi for low power. Upgraded my switch to accomdate this and at the end the lockdowns happened and supply chain issues and scalping. What was avail? X86. I priced out 12 pi with POE hats and SD cards and it costed the same as having a 2U Ryzen 5 5600 64GB ECC and 6TBx2 Raid hard drives with Dual NIC for the same price and I host containers/virtual machines on it.
For gaming I started to use my left over pis and given them away as gifts but the small pcs are power efficient with more bit of horsepower than PI.
Would the PCs you mentioned work for building Arcade cabinets?
Yes
For $80 i got a used lenovo m715q with a ryzen 2400ge with 16gb ddr4 and 256gb ssd, smokes all of the raspberry pi's with ease.
I wanted to upgrade my pi3 but price held me back. Saw your video on the HP g2 mini. Found one for $55 for 16gb without ssd, ordered a 1tb and I’m in for 110. Eager to try this build
As a batocera buff and a pi lover please 🥺 use mini pcs not pi pi are for kids and tinkerers if ya add commercial and retro to the mix it really hurts 🤕 kids who wanna learn to code or designs tht need socs like rc tanks and ehat not driving cost tru the roof 😅 use orane pi or odroid better for emulation and leaves more ri-pi for the res int😅 lol when buying cheap mini PC's wipe the drive and recovery sectors please 🥺 and do a fresh install 😅
Form factor and power supply counts for something though. I can build a slim portable control board with the PI 5 inside it that just has an HDMI output and a plug and it won't weigh much of anything. Not that you are wrong on this performance / value proposition though that's clear. The PI5's prices have dropped and its in stock now but its still expensive for what it is.
Pi is sooo much easier to become virtualy plug and play. With so many images out there its easy to just have everything fully loaded and ready to go from start. PC you have to go in and download and adjust way more.
You cant do Wii U on integrated graphics from a cpu from 2015, maybe some of the virtual e-shop titles can load if you are lucky.
Gamecube games can run but you are running a very low power cpu thats equivalent to a low Haswell cpu so gamecube isnt going to do as well as you may think.
Dreamcast runs smoothly on a Pi 4 with 1gb of ram, so this $130 computer is only good for the things that the raspberry pi 4 and 5 can do and it sips more power. At that point, thats a major L.
Great insight and video as always bro! Really makes NO SENSE to purchase a Pi5 when you can get WAY more powerful hardware for about the same price without needing to buy a fan, case, etc!
I think if people knew just how limited the arm64 platform is ,
most wouldn't waste their time and money.
Take retroarch , and similar emulator setups .
they have limited core support for arm .
I think that Pi4 is suitable only for low energy duty 24/7 for some lightweight tasks today. Minisforum, Beelink etc. are more affordable for emu right now. Mostly on amd ryzen cpu with vega7, 8, 680m, 780m.
Launchbox on a mini PC is the way to game.
Good video bro, how in the world do you pump out so much content?!?! You’re a beast bro! ✊🏻🔥
Hi, I love your content and you are the reason why I got an elite desk g3. Thank you very much, Im really enjoying it. The only thing is that It can't play xbox games very well. Do you recommend swapping out the i5-6500t for a better cpu and if so which one? I figured it might be worth it to just buy a better cpu instead of a whole new pc but i dont know what would be compatible.
To get games to run better you better off getting a better graphics card and it also depends on how well the Xbox emulator is coded
Oh you can also try to lower some settings on the Xbox you might be able to get the games to run better just doing that
Hi can we dual boot Linux and Windows with this Elitedesk G3? Can Windows XP & 7 run on the G3?
Pi have priced themselves into the mini PC market now, for the price of a Pi 5, case and power supply is almost £100 in the UK. I bought a Dell optiplex 3070 micro sff I5 9500t with 16gb RAM and 256 M2 storage for the same price....
Exactly just doesn't make sense anymore
Nice video! Thanks for all the helpful information
Pi almost never made sense for big screen gaming(even emulation). Used PCs were always a better choice(prive vs performance).
However Pi still makes sense for some applications where the choice is Pi or some other SBC board. Mini PCs have taken many of the Pi spaces but even Mini PCs are too large/power hungry for some applications.
Hey man, recently discovered u, great channel, keep up the good work. What I would like to know, any recommendations for mini pc, cheaper, that can run pinball tables? Virtual pin, future pin, etc
Hey thanks for the support. Haven't done much with that myself but they aren't that demanding I don't think so you shouldn't need really high end specs to get into that. I would say you should be able to get that going on your average $175 price point mini pc. I don't have the hands on experience but that's my opinion
This really depends on what you're monitor setup will be. Used a mini PC for a single screen mini pinball. But also built a full size, 3 screen, 4k. It required far more power.
@@cybertechcomputerz I figured this out. Minimum is i5, 16 gig ram, and nvidia GT 1xxxx series. A good portion of the tables r designed with nvidia gt in mind. I got a refurbished Dell Otiplex with i7, 32 gig of ram, ssd hard drive, and a gt super 1660 (i think) for 400. Some tables still slow it down. Best nvidia card I could afford, I was told by a guy that sells table hard drives. I’m playing with a 1080 display
@@cybertechcomputerz thanks for the reply btw
how could I convert my bare bones 9.1 that i have spent a year perfecting to run on a PC or the new pi 5, is it possible
I used to have a Raspberry pi 3, and would definitely recommend a mini pc or even a retro console, its not really worth it when you compare.
pi's are ok for certain consoles and certain arcade games, but yeah, more complex 3d arcade titles and consoles need more ooomph
Raspberry Pi was seen as the chosen one, but is turning more and more into Vader.
I was busy setting up a homelab with RPi's when 2020 hit the fan.
Reluctantly and hesitantly I decided back then to switch to sff pc's, but now I notice I'm phasing out all RPi's for (sff) PC's.
I kind of get the argument. I just like fooling around with Pis - to see what they get a low-powered, singleboard-pc to do. If I need power, I'd probably just run stuff on my 7800x3D/4090-pc - but yeah, if you don't care about power-usage and a fixed eco-system with a specific, console-like performance-profile, then by all means x86-mini-pcs is the way to go. And yes - the RPI5-price does not really make sense compared to X86 on a dollar per performance-basis anymore. I am sure RPI will feel this. Does not seem to be that much hype concerning RPI anymore. Maybe it had its days. I still find them fun though.
No need for pie if you have cheesecake😂😂.
Awesome video. Makes sense.
True always go for the big cake
@@israelirizarrypacheco2103 lol..did you recieve the giveaway?
That beelink s12 had a $20 instant coupon that you missed which would bring the price closer to $180... considering it comes with 16gb of ram and a 500gb ssd it definitely would have been worth it, moreso than any pi5...
With intel and amd coming out with new more powerful chips it pushes all their previous chips down in price and implemented into these handhelds and mini PCs....
Raspberry pi's will have a tough time competing unless they can manage to come out with capable chips at a much lower price like they did with all their previous pi's up to the pi4....
maybe if they manage to come out with a pi6 or pi7 with 16gb and 500gb ssd for $50 then they might have a chance at surviving, but i doubt they will at this point.
RGG- In your honest opinion which has the overall better performance between the bmax n100 or hp elite desk g2? Depending on where I buy they are about the same price.
Go with the g2
@@RetroGamingGuy thanks for your help and amazing videos. You’ve def been a lifesaver. Finally got my SD card polished and purged from all the padded dupes. Finally able to enjoy my RG353ps now I just need a stationary unit for my game room 🤗
I love this thumbnails, when some dude says, STOP DOING THIS AND THAT.....what a clown
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you gotta play the algorithm game. Got you to click.
What minimum machine will run the kris cool 2T shooter drive?
Personally i like emulating thru my 10 yr old gaming pc . Raspberry pi used to be the way to go but the mini pcs are so much better.
$150 i got my x box series s comes with controller and 3 months game pass from costco on holiday sale ,I would newer pay more than $35 for Raspberry Pi 5 ,the reason i used to buy Raspberry Pi it was affordable I still have mine Raspberry Pi 3 b+.
I agree but you should be careful when buying these mini PCS some of them have been shown to ship with malware from the manufacturer
I don’t care about the pricing at all. I only care about something that is compact and does not require a separate PC. Is Pi still the best for self contained unit?
I'm not sure what you mean by does not require a separate pc? You take a mini pc and connect a micro sd card, ssd, hard drive, or flash drive to it to bring your games into it. Same deal with a pi 4 or 5 where you'd be essentially doing the same thing.
People in the dislikes are the ones who bought the rp5 for over 200$ and are justifying that it's still a good product
Haha to each their own. I think many didn't watch the video and assume this is a video bashing the product. I have nothing against it. It just not ideal for gaming anymore. Better options for less money with more capabilities 👍🏻.
Luckily, I bought the Raspberry Pi 400. Right before the scalping began. I wanted to buy another one. Then discovered the scalping.
I found HP Elitedesk 705 G5 DM with 3400G Pro, 16GB, 512GB, HDMI for $240 tax included. I think will be much better to get this than Pi5... I'm in EU country so prices are little bit higher than US.
Waiting for second gen version of the board, and seeing if case makers like retroflag or argon40 have any good cases that use nvme storage directly.
Currently $160 on amazon Canada for the bare board. I can get the majority of what I need from existing parts, but even if I go with an ice tower "pc" case, it's cheaper than a hp 800 g3.
Oh, look at that 6 months later. And they're $89 on Amazon
show that pc with a retropie like OS or game launcher OS like launchbox where u dont need a mouse and keyboard just turn on and use controller !!!
its just a hobby. i can emulate on the computer im typing on now. but as a fun project i like to get the credit sized raspberry pi run my childhood games. just for kicks. its just a novelty. a hobby.. but yeah, if you are just looking for a livingroom emulator, get a last gen/ secondhand mini pc.
Can you review the new X5 Pro by Kinhank? 16,000 games with over 600 games for the PS2 and over 600 games for the GameCube. And many other retro classic consoles. This is a beast of an Android box. Please give us your thoughts on this one!👍
Did you miss that $20 coupon on the $211 Alder Lake mini pc?
I got a beekink ryzen 7 5700u for $180 on Amazon a few months back 16/512 I upgraded to 32/1tb myself
They can combine all the methods of checking for extra purchases, credit card number, ip, name, address, email. It would help but just cant stop scalpers. Of course if people wasnt paying scalper prices like you show in this video they would stop scalping. Pc emulation has always been more powerful and cheaper than all alternatives this is nothing new. If you been into emulation for any amount of time someone will have told you just get a old used pc.
How powerful will that mini pc will be for emulation?
Yeah price gougers suck, I have used many Pi4's... the Pi5 in my opinion is just not worth it right now. As far as emulation there is not a huge bump from the Pi4.. N64 runs good finally, some Gamecube... not much more. Might as well go with a miniPC.
So the G2 is better than the G3?
What about Lenovo mini PC?
I would rather use my RPi5s any day than your marketed AIO hard drive ventures.
2005 has called and want's it's 'clock frequency' equals 'processing power' analogy back. Especially a comparsion with different Processor architectures is hilarious.
But - to be honest - the man is right, you get more bang for your buck buying refurbished office/mini PCs. Or you get i a little less bang and buy new ones with up to date processors (N95, N100 etc.) and have 'bout an equal amount of power consumption than a rp5 with more processing power (but possible less than the refurbished PC - but they draw much more power). So, not as easy as it seems...
I seen people playing halo infinite and forza on raspberry pi 5
No.
I'd still say wait until you can get the pi5 at retail. Looking into these $200 mini PC's they can't emulate as good as the Pi 5. I think the problem is even though they have a faster cpu and more ram, they run on windows which takes up much more resources
What are you smoking mini PC blow them out the water you noob
@@cohenguest-nq1wf Depends what you are talking about. The $100-$150 mini pcs are usually n100s which really are not that much faster. They are faster, but not "blow out of the water" fast. Now, mini pcs can scale all the way up to the highest end laptop cpu/gpus, so sure, but then you aren't even remotely in the same budget class.
The used SFF based builds are just awkward comparisons. They are much larger than an rpi, so you may as well just be comparing it to a used laptop too.
Then there is just a matter of a use-case. If you truly intend to do nothing other than emulation, then sure. However with the gpio pins, you can re-use your pi for a lot more by just swapping out the sd card.
The suggestion still stands though - wait until you can get an rpi at msrp. Scalper prices are not worth, especially when its practically a 25% markup.
@@dreadlord9257 you've just proven my point mini PC are quicker there for better performance and also can handle heavy front ends better .another delusional comment not knowing you've validated my point
@@cohenguest-nq1wf Maybe read the entire post?
@@dreadlord9257 I've read the post like I've said thanks for validating my comment .you didn't even realise your own down fall
If the point is for game ... why not go for AMD chip with better gpu ?
Oh I certainly would but I was comparing just the lower end stuff within the same price range. The amd options are a little more money but yeah I'd be happy personally paying more to better the experience
You really like to get them ready made right. Yoy're hillarious. Raspberry pi is a maker's device...the gaming is an extra feature.
...yeah...I'm saying for those that just want to game there's better options out there for that. It's not a knock on the pi in the general. As for the rest of this idk what you're saying haha
You missed $20 coupon
If the pi was under $50 total. It would be worth it.
any guesses why not to use rpi5??
Essentially, if you're doing retro emulation, it's relatively cheaper and has more performance if you just buy a mini-PC.
I'm thinking just from cost per performance
Meh. There are KinHank android consoles that'll blow every Pi board outta the water, Especially if it's one of the more pricey ones. I've said Pis died a long time ago when it comes to buying them for emulation.
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I mean your price comparison is only fair if you are going to buy everything from Amazon at scalped prices. If you buy from a Certified reseller they cost 80 for the best model. the case and fan you chose are also unnecessarily expensive. you can buy much cheaper cases just as good looking for like 12 dollars. Not to mention if your into retro gaming and building your own emulation station chances are you know someone with a 3d printer or have access to a forum full of people who probably do. And let me tell ya those 3d printer guys are chomping at the bit for things to make and would love to make you one for very little or even free.
at the price point you still cant beat the pi if you are willing to be patient, buy from approved resellers, and look for good deals on cases or simply go without. I hit mine with conformal coating and don't use a case at all. My can of that stuff cost as much as a case, I like the look and ive coated my 4 pi 3s and my 2 5s and it still feels 3/4 full.
Sure if you want the best emulation station possible MINI PC's are getting really fast but if the argument is spend 50-70 bucks more for a 220 dollar mini PC then why not spend 80 bucks more and get a Walmart laptop? then you get the addition of a built in screen, battery etc. just put emulators on that and plug it into the TV. the point of the PI is its great for emulation AND the cheapest out there by a solid 30-40% margin if you avoid scalpers.
you don't have the user base, So can you make a gaming PC and a android box and with a pI hat make an audiophile 24 bit dac pc????? for like less than $200 Canadian? I would say nope.
Thanks Retro!
No one actually uses it... wth
I just bought a mini pc. beelink ser5 ryzen 7 on fb market for 180 new in a box.
I'm not familiar with ryzen. what would that be equivalent of intel roughly?
been keeping eye out for mini pc that can play ps2/gamecube at 2-3x