High Vs Normal Tension Classical Guitar Strings
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2020
- This video looks at the difference between High and Normal Tension Classical Guitar Strings using a Yamaha NTX900FM acoustic guitar and D'Addario Pro-Art EJ45 Normal Tension Strings.
To see Carbon Vs Normal Tension Strings, check this out:
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there is no such thing as carbon vs normal tension.carbons come in normal or hard tension.
@louiscyfer6944 thanks for your comment, please check out my video on carbon strings
We got it, you have very impressive video editing skills.
Bro really went all out 😂
Super good video production quality for your first video. Loved it
Great comparison! For recording purposes, the high tension sounds better to me. I also thought you played more inspired on the high tension strings, so it's a win-win for high tension. Cheers!
I liked the High Tension. Thank you for watching
Excellent! Inspired me to pick the classical again!
Thanks for making this video. I recently purchased a Cordoba C7 classical guitar that came with high tension strings. I have not played guitar in a very long time and I found it painful to play on these strings. I will be shortly making my way to the guitar center to get them replaced with normal tension strings. Thanks again for your informative video.
Hi Roy, thank you for watching, normal tension are easier to play and my personal favourite
Your space is awesome, great vibes!
Thanks so much!
Great tutorial and very inspiring 🤘🏻
Thanks a lot for the comparison, i like a more balanced and "bassy" sound, im a beginer at playing guitar but i knew something was off when i bought my guitar i just didnt know what.
The new guitar i bought had the sound i like and better than the previous one which had suffered quite a bit i just used it for the first steps since it was free and i didnt know if i was actually going to play the guitar, yet even with sharper sharper and overall more bassy feeling it had that sound that i cant really describe but i can definitly hear in the high tension, which i dont really like.
Lucky for me i found ur video, my strings broke yesterday 😂.
There is nothing like giving the sound difference between the string tensions with a similar tune. Thanks for that clarity.
thank you for watching Michel
@@Andy7String Based on that I've decided that it is the high tension strings that I prefer
Thank you for a great video. I have normal tension strings. I would like to lower the action a little more but you can only go so far with lower tension strings before risk of vibration against the frets. If high tension strings are not an option, then it looks like getting the best quality normal tension would be the next best solution.
Glad it was helpful!
Underrated ❤️ Loved the video ❤️
Appreciate it! Thank you for watching
Awesome video!
Such a nice guitar playing, I liked it
thank you for watching
Thanks for this video, this helped me very much 🙂🎸
Glad it helped!
Watching while taking a break. :)
Nice! 👏👏
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Thanks, very good video
Also, I like your video editing and motion texts
Thank you Farhad, the effects are from MotionVFX, thank you for watching, new video out soon!
Brother, I appreciate your having put in the time and effort to make and post this.
And yes, the cats ARE hilarious. Good call leaving them in. Mine too have never been able to resist the allure of guitar strings waving in the air while being changed.
But... I started to lol when you said "I do hear just a little bit of fret buzz with these". Dude. I was already thinking of writing to you, all of what I started with, plus "I'm sorry, but I can hardly hear anything at all in terms of tone underneath all that fret buzz".
It's massive. Overwhelming. And that's me trying NOT to sound pejorative. I get it, this is not your primary instrument, and it would require major modifications to your technique to play it with a proper setup, and probably having to accept just not being able to play as fast, at least for some time as you re-trained.
And I even get why you apparently don't even hear this. Our ears get trained differently according to what we've been listening to and playing. It's about exposure.
But - and I'm an almost-exclusively steel-string player myself - I have absolutely no idea why anyone would want to play a nylon-string at all if not for its tone.
Listen to something like this (which is quite short, no major investment involved in checking it out) and then listen to your own video again. You see?
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One more thing: you're obviously electrified. If that's via a piezoelectric pickup under the saddle, it's virtually guaranteed that your tone will continue to be seriously compromised, even after having corrected the string heights. There are other methods. Those things have a lot of advantages for performing live with high amplification. Faithful reproduction of high quality acoustic guitar tones is not what they're good for.
That's why, if I caught that exchange correctly, something was said about the fret buzz being magnified by being plugged in. The piezos are robbing you of bottom end and depth, and overemphasizing certain highs.
(In fact, it's interfering with your purely acoustic tone too. Ideally, there should be nothing between the saddle and the guitar top, because that's the route by which the vibrations from the strings are getting to the top.
I don't know that guitar specifically. But in general, Yamaha utilizes good materials, good design, and good quality control. You probably should be able to get a tone that will totally satisfy anyone who's not a classical purist and possibly a bit of a snob.
If you're really serious about tone, take that pickup out, and replace the saddle with one that you've very very gradually sanded down from its full height, just a little at a time, until you start to hear the first hints of fret buzz when playing pretty high up [meaning, towards the bridge] the neck. At that point you can bring it back up a touch with a piece of rosewood veneer, cut oversized, glued to the bottom of the saddle, and then sanded to remove the excess.
And then you adjust your truss rod, if need be, to correct whatever you may still be hearing when fretting closer to the nut. This will not affect the action higher up unless it was WAY out of adjustment, which I highly doubt that it is.)
Hi, thank you for the reply. I do struggle more to play acoustic and this is def not the primary instrument. Having said that, my skill level is always being worked on so appreciate the feed back from you. The guitar is a Yamaha NTX900FM. I made this video as it was currently something I needed to know at the time and hope that the info in it does provide some help. Thank you for your feedback, advice and watching
Always wanted to know the difference
Such a great video though I'll admit - that cat was making me nervous 😂
I'm about to attempt changing strings - should be fun!
Good luck!!
Wonderful & awesome
Very Nice.
Excellent review! I recently purchased a Córdoba Orchestra CE. It is a crossover with a 1 7/8” neck and 16” radius. I’m a classical guitar player use to normal tension strings. This guitar has a high tension string recommendation. I had the action set low and still get some buzzing particularly if I use a capo. The Luther that did the set up recommended the high tension strings also. I’d like to try the normal strings again just to feel the difference and see if the buzz is tolerable. Probably will be worse than the high tension? I’m guessing it will not hurt the guitar neck? Changing tensions?
Hi, changing tensions can def play on the neck, however, you can adjust the neck to pretty much the same position. There should not be any hurt though :) Part of a good setup is giving the nut a slight adjustment in the neck to change the bend so that the strings sit correctly. Thank you for watching.
Excellent, let's hear more !!
I use the high tension strings on my shorter scale guitars and on the long scale guitars I prefer the normal strings however remember you need to do a truss rod adjustment if you change the strings generally
Hi Cory, Sounds like good advice, thank you for watching
Hi I am using normal tension. The neck and string height adjustments of my guitar have been made. But sometimes I get very little sizzling sound. Will this problem disappear if I use high tension? Because of the tension, I think the handle can be pushed back a little more and the problem can be solved. A normal tension wire oscillates more than the hard tension wire, and I think this can make sizzle a bit. What do you think? Should i use high tension for this problem?
Hi Alvarez, it does sound like a high tension string will help you out. You may also consider the strength you use to hit the strings, when you play hard it has a similar effect on some setups. Thank you for watching
Thanks brother ilove Yamaha ntx🔥
Thank you for watching. Yamaha does do a great job
fantastic
Thanks
the cats are hilarious :)
thank you for watching
I prefer hard tension with a lower action .
I have the Yamaha NCX700, same electronics I would assume, does sound a little buzzy when plugged in, like yours, I like the guitar overall.
The yamaha could probably do with a bit of setup to get rid of the buzz. Thank you for watching
Sounds like you're tuned down 2 whole steps. I get it, 7 strings baritone on a 6 string guitar but have you compared the tension differences when tuned to standard 440?
Hi, you have a good ear, it was tuned down for that video. Have tried it at standard as well as eFlat and have the same results, slightly less noticeable on standard. Thank you for watching!
I hear classical guitars on recordings , but my guitar the strings seem rather loose or floppy at E tuning . I'm thinking I need hard tension strings for a more snappy feel . I play electric mostly but I love the sound of Spanish guitar . I have a New Ortega Family RCE131sn , very pretty , solid built guitar , I replaced the nut with Graphtech synthetic bone sanded to an exact shape of the factory plastic nut . Do you think Hard tension strings would be worth a try ? if so is there a hardness level and what brand ? Thanks .
Hi Harry, high tension may be just what you looking for, there is a variance between brands but they usually very similar. Thank you for watching
Попробуй сначала карбоновые струны нормального натяжения.
amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
Thx,this is comparision video thai i looking for
Thank you for watching
I heard your accent and immediately started looking for the South African references XD Greetings from Cape Town!
And great vid btw, exactly what I was looking for.
Did you have to adjust any kind of parameters on the guitar itself to set up for the high tension strings? Ive been considering getting some to eliminate "flip floppyness". Hopefully it doesn't make playing too stiff.
Hi, it is best to give the neck a bit of an adjustment to get things good for the tension. Thank you for watching
video really cool, music not my taste but good technique, would like to see this string test with music I can handle more.
Thx for this info really like your cats 😍Have semi classical guitar question what is really nice effect-module before the amp 👍
Hey Richard, Thank you for watching, cats are awesome! I find that putting effects before the amp for a classical guitar should be limited to mild compression, in the loop, a bit of verb does a world of good.
Outstanding
I have a Cordoba Orchestra CE. This is a crossover guitar with a 1 7/8" nut and 16" radius fret board. Should you be able to play either Hard tension or normal tension strings on your guitar? Maybe a silly question..but I can not use normal tension strings on this guitar or is will buzz and give me harmonics I do not want. It was probably set up with Hard tension strings with low action. The action is good but I still have some "dead" strings sounds. Hard to find a good set up person. I just want to know if I should be able to switch back and forth between different tension strings and expect a clear tone.
Hi Morris, thank you for watching. I find that a good neck adjustment allows for a different tension string
4:59 I would have said that the high tension strings cut through the mix a lot better.
Hi Georg, they do have the tone for it. Am working on a carbon strings comparison as well! Thank you for watching
Anyone tried before AUGUSTINE
Paragon Red Med Tension Fluorocarbon Trebles / Siver-Plated Basses Classical string Set...please comment? Thank you.
Love yr vid: instant LIKE. USA tensions are diff than Europe. "HARD" blue EJ46 set is only near 90lbs=total; this is LOW or Medium in Europe. "MEDIUM" from Savarez, Aquila is at least 92-93 Lbs (pounds)=total. EUROPE HIGH TENSION, like Carbon set in USA, is nearly 96-102 or even 104 Lbs/set/total...
Thanks for the info!
Good comparison. I love the WTF. Hahah!
Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it
I am trying to replace my Yamaha classical strings and don't know much about them. I am mainly a electric/acoustic guitarist, Do you like the high or the low tension?
Hi Danny, I would go with the normal tension to be honest, they are easier to play. Tone is for the listener though, thank you for watching
Normal tension sounds better thanks for sharing 😊
thank you for watching
LMAO totally get the hardship of putting strings on with cats in the house
I love normal one
which one is good for entry level?
Hi Jiha, the normal tensions would be good as they are slightly easier to play. Thank you for watching
cam for a cat..SAW TWO!
Btw thanks for the explanation
Thank you for watching
I'm italian, could you please explain to me what does "chimmy highs" mean?
Hi Orio, it means that the frequency range for the high is almost bell like sounding in nature I guess, it is pleasing
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Why did the guitar keep going out of tune when you wound it? What did you do to prevent this after?
Hey Jax, the new strings stretch a bit when first put on, if you play them in a bit they start to settle after a few days, this video was made directly after the restring which was challenging. Thank you for watching
@@Andy7String Thanks for the speedy reply! I’ve found so many conflicting answer and see some people stretch the strings themselves. I’ll restring my guitar today thank you so much!!
Btw have you found that it might be beneficial to break in your fingers and callouses with higher tension strings? Or might that be too damaging? I find the lower action much easier for the style of music I play, but since it’s been so long I don’t want to jack up my fingers.
@@itsokpapi Giving the strings a stretch speeds up the break in process but after a couple of days they sit fine. For gauges, I play the lightest gauge as possible, it will help if you press a note and play it and release the tension on the finger each time you play it till you find the right pressure to play just before the note starts to buzz, the lighter your touch the better. Guitar is hard enough, give yourself every opportunity you can. Let me know how it goes
You slapping how de um play that
hi, I don't remember slapping :)
Which strings i should use for good base
HI Sameeksha, this is up to your personal taste, generally, thicker strings provide more bass tamber. Thank you for watching
Hannabach exclusive
i love your cat
thank you for watching
@@Andy7String your welcome 😀
Why does the timelapse sound like the start of a Christopher Nolan movie
Good cat
Neitha
wouldn't the hard tensions bend the neck over time? Ebony, Rose or whatever...
Hi, hard tension will def apply more tension on the neck. I adjust mine every now and then to keep it in check. Thank you for watching
Hey there you might wanna keep your fingers away from those cats Andy, unless they have been declawed, I've seen so many people with wrecked little fingers from cat claws in my life,enough to steer clear of them whenever possible,thanks for your review just in time for my restoration of my old Mexican classical, the guy at the music store sold me a set of high tension and now I am going to take them back, for some mediums, thumbs up 😊👍
Hi, the cats :) glad you found the strings you want, thank you for watching
Declawing cats is like cutting off their fingers. Its immoral and cruel to do so. Teach your cats not to claw with a clicker by rewarding good behavior. Just saying. Declawing should be only done for medical reasons.
@@RandyH524 wsup, love ma little guys and wouldn't touch their claws, I speak cat so no clicker required. Thank you for watching.
using a pick on nylon strings?.kinda like adding ice to a fine single malt scotch.
thank you for watching, am working on it. Doing a compare between normal and carbon, will try leaving the pic out :)
Does the tension change the intonation
Hi David, that's a great question. Intonation normally refers to the pitch of strings when played open, however, it can also be applied to fretted notes, often when pushing down on a fret board the string can be pushed higher in pitch. i do this sometimes if playing under pressure and pushing down hard. Its def something that needs further investigation. Thank you for watching
Intonation in general refers to the relationships between pitches that we hear or, actually, define, as being "in tune" with each other. In this context, it refers for practical purposes to the relationship between the pitch of a given string when played open and the pitches produced when fretting that same string. So the question really boils down to "Will a change in the tension of my strings affect my ability to play in tune?"
Squeezing a string sharp is about the sensitivity of your touch. [I play steel-string acoustic almost exclusively. When I first pick up an electric I'm squeezing the shit out of the strings, and everything I'm fretting is sharp, and I have to consciously relax and adjust.] Whether or not it even CAN be played in tune is about how your instrument is set up. It's very easy to check, by comparing the pitches produced by playing (1) the harmonic at XII & (2) the fretted note at XII.
They should be in PERFECT unison. They probably will never all be in perfect unison on any guitar that does not have individually adjustable saddle pieces. That includes every acoustic guitar I've ever seen or heard of. But they can, on a decent instrument, all be close enough that overall when playing you will always be very close - close enough for the vast majority of us to almost never hear the difference doing anything other than the check referred to above.
(In fact, a real, skilled perfectionist will hear problems no matter how perfectly your guitar is set up. This is because of two things: 1, the standards by which the frets are positioned are an imperfect compromise, & 2, the standard pitches that we've agreed upon are also an imperfect compromise. If you really want to delve into it, this is a complex and fascinating subject.)
To really answer this question you'd probably have to adjust the neck after each change, because as you've mentioned, lower tension strings are allowing the neck to straighten a bit compared to the shape it takes under higher tension.
And the whole root of the problem is that a string has to be stretched a bit in order to be fretted. And not every string changes pitch at the same rate per unit of stretch. (The overall length of the string is one of the factors affecting the degree to which the pitch changes relative to a given unit of stretch. Hence the individually adjustable saddles on guitars whose tone will not suffer noticeably for it - aka most electrics. And the slant given the saddles of the rest.)
So among others, one of the implications is that any change in the height of a given string will affect the distance that it has to be stretched in order to be fretted, which in turn affects the pitch at which it will play once it is fretted, which means you've affected the accuracy of its intonation. And a change in neck curvature will result in a change in the height of that string above any given fret.
This is why I say that if you're really determined to isolate the variable of string set tension re: intonation, you're likely to have to adjust the neck after changing strings. That change in height is likely very slight. But this is a case in which very slight changes can make noticeable, audible differences.
And with all this said, I wish I could help to actually answer the question. But I can't. The only classical guitar I have available is somewhat old and very cheap and does not have an adjustable truss rod. So I can't control the curvature of the neck at all. And the (only) way I can adjust string heights is via the saddle height: sanding it down, and gluing strips of rosewood veneer to it to go up. I'm not gonna do that, going back and forth, now, for this. Sorry!
using a piezo/pickup kind of ruins this comparison
thank you for the feedback
Play without a pick😖
Hi Juan, I do hybrid but understand what you saying, thank you for watching
It's better to get high tension
Not the pick😰
true that :) Thank you for watching
so no difference, got it, thanks
Hi, thank you for watching. The differences are noted in the first part of the video
Why you shredding in drop A on a classical lol
0:57
the only music shop...?
so who's gonna tell 'em?
dude what is going on with the middle music? so annoying
Hi, will try make it more interesting next time, than you for watching
2:00 dude you need to replace this shitty bg music
The Hight tension sounds better
Hi Henry, thank you for watching
Your playing is good but your playing the nylon guitar wrong. You know you are.
thank you for watching :)
Почти нет никакой разницы в звуке.Только в цене струн ?😂Маркетинг и обман продавцов и производителей.Неслышу большой разницы.Но у вас ещё и гитара не настоящая классическая сделаная в китае,а с электроникой,с эквалайзером и подключением к усилителю.Вы включили эффекты и обработку звука,это я услышал.А разницу между звуком струн,нет не услышал.Кругом обман!😮😢
This wasn’t great…
Boring as hell watching a guitar player show off rather than explain about the title and string tension. Skip it.
Thank you for your feedback
Гитара звучит так, как будто кто то бьет сланцем по канализационной трубе.