Players HATE NFL's New Proposed 15 Yard Penalty For Vague "Hip Drop Tackle" | Pat McAfee Reacts
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Lets penalize the ball carrier for not going down when touched by a defender.
It depends on how many hands touch the carrier. If it's two hands then you are down.
Just convert to touch football.
I would like to say a version of that is not coming but I'm afraid to be wrong lol
They had talked about Rugby a bit.... and to be fair... 🎶To🎵Be🎵Fair 🎶... to be fair, the only way to play football with this rule is to get rid of ALL the pads.
We will still get the MEGA impacts from huge hits, they just wont sound like car crashes anymore, more like.... swinging two cow carcasses at eachother in a slaughterhouse freezer? probably. I'd still watch.
If this gets passed, every defensive player should strike. Its honestly getting ridiculous.
Do you even know what a hip drop tackle is and looks like or just another idiot complaining to complain
it's already been passed in other sports, people like you are just clowns
Nothing will change until the fans strike.
Who even wants to play defense at this point??? The league is constantly making things worse for defenders and easier for offensive players.
@@mattclark6062It would make a lot more sense for the players to strike and a more likely scenario
Cant tackle hard, Can’t tackle high, now can’t tackle low…… soooooo we might as well play 2 hand touch at this point…
There Will be a 'No touch Mahomes' rule next
All started with Brady.
no rules on power bombs or drop kicking XD time for the water boy to come in tot he league XD
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371he’s written every year to be there. Roger loves making it obvious it’s scripted
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371that goes for all QBs bub 🤣
“Alrighty, boys. Let’s hang up the shoulder pads and bust out the flags”
No wait, there still might be a chance of a head collision/swallowing your tongue, so better keep the pads and helmet on, just in case. But wait, we want more money and better compensation for Hamstring injuries
If it is the rule from rugby, a hip drop tackle is kind of like a horse collar, in that you grab on and swing with momentum, you wrap somebody up and then lift yourself off the ground and create a huge torque by puling yourself into the guy getting tackled and your legs and thighs get tangled up in their legs, it's not just a normal tackle. If you're leaping at somebody like chasing somebody down the sideline than that's not a hip drop tackle, if you wrap somebody up, get low and throw them to the ground while they're carrying you that's not a hip drop tackle, if you grab onto somebody and then fall without torquing yourself into their legs then that's not a hip drop tackle. Essentially, a hip drop tackle is like jamming a stick into bicycle spokes, it's specifically transferring all your weight to the other guy so you can torque your lower body into their legs.
Sarcastaball is becoming reality
Butters is gonna start selling his “creamy goo” at this rate.
😂
I love my fellow South Park brethren lol
Yup. As it does it also ends all future comparisons between Brady-Mahomes. One guy played in a real league, the other plays in a watered-down flag football league. No contest.
@@LOLto8ghaFun fact, Mahomes already has as many roughing the passer calls in his short career as Tom had in the entirety of his career.
Owners need to vote against this. Plain and simple. Who even thought of this rule?
Owners vote against it? Who you think pays the bills? The owners want this.
Harbaugh
Players complained about the hip drop tackle all of last year.
Whiny Steeler Fans
@@manfrombc5162, players complain about everything.. just play flag football and take away the massive contracts
We are going to end up with two hand touch. Vince Lombardi said, "Football is not a contact sport it is a hitting sport." That is what makes it fun to watch.
The original creators of football would be disgusted with what the game has become
"Studies show running leads to a lot of injuries so now players can only walk"
Haha it's going to end up being a Madden tiernamente. But with special eyeglasses because blue light from monitors is dangerous
Can't believe nobody's thought of that one yet.
Facts
How about every player gets a feather so that they can tickle each other until one gives up and goes down?
💀💀💀
😂😂😂
This will be mandatory for qb hits in two years time
Sounds too dangerous actually
The lingerie league was my favorite.
League is a joke
As a Redskins fan, if it's nice out I'm golfing 😂
agreed
No dude, lawyers are a joke. Thats why rules are being changed for “player safety” wake up and smell the future litigation…..
@AnthonyW89it’s a joke
Yeah, why would you ever try to ban a tackle that is 25 TIMES MORE LIKELY to lead to an injury? That makes no sense. It's not like 20% of the league is injured every year, why would you want to try to improve on players actually playing in the game and not missing a year to make tackling easier.
The NFL deserves a serious competitor.
GOOD. LUCK.
Nobody’s got the money to do that
Then it's up to you to support the UFL.
Bro the NFL is already curb stomping their closest competition which is their OWN PEER leagues in the NBA, MLB, NHL and even NCAAF. Will take insane rules that water down the sport to comedic levels and even then I'm sure will still draw double the eyeballs of their next closest competitor league
UFL like 👀👀👀👀. “we coming” “we coming”
This totally won't be used to justify arbitrary penalties to rig games
hey stop using logic. everyone knows that fixing games requires some grand conspiracy involving hundreds of players, camera teams, league officials and execs, ect, ect. how dare you suggest that all it takes is one ref making bad calls, or missing obvious calls to fix a game.
WWE is more believable 😂. Nfl is fixed plain and simple
Bruh, hip drop tackles are so obvious
@@mistersunshine1330holding is obvious too yet the refs pick and choose when to call it. Defensive pass interference is obvious too and the refs pick and choose when to call it.
Another way for the refs to subtly rig games without most fans knowing.
@@mistersunshine1330That didn't help the Saints with the NFC Championship PI. I don't even like the Saints but that was BS
National Flag Football League is coming soon.
The London Silly Nannie’s are gonna wreck shop
It’s already here.
You added an extra L in flag.
Refs have to much control now and the refs have bias for and against teams it seems like to me
It’s inevitable
They're just trying to give the refs more control of the game.
Lol, stop it, conspiracy guy. Every decade going back to even the 70’s and even much before, every generation has talked about how much softer and rigged football is getting and how things used to be better. I don’t agree with many changes because I grew up in a certain time period of football, and that’s how I’ll always view the pinnacle of it. But this has been a process that every generation complains about. Let me ask you this. Do you honestly think fixing games in the 70’s and 80’s wasn’t a million times worse and less obvious than now? With email, whistleblowers, audio leaks, replays for every intricate play, change, hot route, frame by frame analysis, do you honestly think if there was a fundamental full on fixing conspiracy in the second largest sport on earth, in an age where there’s zero secrets that aren’t discovered and no one keeps their mouth shut, you honestly believe that it’s all over refs having control and fixing the games? Let’s use our heads a little, brother. Are some games fixed by certain refs and outside organizations? Do some players for whatever motives cheat for profit? Of course. And that will always be a reality in anything that makes money based on gambling. Is it a full blown conspiracy for total control? Hell no. It’d take one single leak for the feds to come down and completely control the NFL and stop all those billions coming in if there’s ever the slightest concrete evidence that the game is fixed from the top to the bottom. Uncle Sam is never giving up that tax profit if they learn about anything funny going on with the NFL at the highest level. The risk/reward doesn’t make sense for the NFL to do that in the Information Age.
@@thebadaidswhat drugs are you on?
@@Dilly_Dilly_Dale Common sense. They’re pretty rare these days, hard to find em.
@@thebadaids i would say troll harder but I think you've got the effort part covered lol 😅
@@thebadaidsyea we not reading all that bro
Derrick Henry at home drooling about how many 80 yard touchdowns he’s about to get
They're just trying to make it harder to play defense because they want higher scoring games. Focus groups told them to do that years ago and that's why all the "safety" rules are aimed at defenders, as if they never get injured. Thats why a RB can lead with his helmet but a defender gets a penalty for doing the same thing. Its never been about safety.
Exactly what I think it is too, was waiting to see someone else recognize it
Yep and they added Thursday night and more games to the season. They don't care about player safety.
What happened to NFL players actually playing football....? So, how am I supposed to tackle a larger person?
Hats just it. They don’t want you to. They want you to get trucked.
Ur getting run over 😂@@mk6mike1.86
tear some acl's go for the knees
I think the problem is lawyers and lawsuits.
@@Notyou69420 Well, the lawyers and lawsuits can go suck it. The players signed up for this and that's what happens when you're on the job. There are always risks.
When people who have never played competitive football are put in charge of making the rules
It was brought up because players were complaining about this type of tackle last year.
@@manfrombc5162ya pusc ass offensive players ofc they don’t care about having the edge
Not Troy Vincent. He was an All-Pro CB.
Players in multiple sports have asked for it too be banned. Shush you've never been hip dropped
@@hitek9too255Troy Vincent is a stooge.
If this gets passed and becomes a rule in the NFL, then we are only a couple years away from the NFL becoming a Flag Football league💀💩
It would also explain why the League is promoting Flag Football so much.
Thats not just an NFL thing either. The football authorities in Ireland have just stopped posting about kitted football and only post flag.
Flag football Olympics 2028 Nfl want an invite
Who in the world is even proposing this 🗑️?
dorks and nerds that never played the game.. Thats the problem is people in the higher ups in the NFL that have never played a sport in their lives making these proposals
Health insurance premiums gotta be insane high
Liberals
This was implemented in my game first, rugby league, in Australia. The biggest problem hasn't been the players transitioning towards new techniques. Instead, the referees have been so subjective and inconsistent with what they deem to be a 'hip drop' that its infuriated and confused all of us.
I saw somewherr that they also said something along the lines of "we believe we can call this penalty effectively." Which just shows you that they know the bs this penalty will cause and are trying to assuage the ire of the fans.
My guess is that it will be implemented, the refs will be inconsistent, and then from now on the following seasons, the refs will only call it when its blatantly obvious and injures another player, even if its after the play is over, etc.
Follow the money, and it leads you to gambling.
Who controls the gambling, and who benefits the most from it?
It's not the public.
Legalized gambling, is legalized theft, if you can control the gambling lines if betting;
Over/under
Point spread
Even penalties, like first penalty, total penalties, etc
(Every metric people gamble on)
South African here, so don't know league that well, in union it is still allowed, so how do you tackle from behind? Or do you just forfeit the challenge when the attacker is past you?
@dietermeyer3531 you just can't bring your weight down on the runners legs. We have an instinct when tackling from behind to 'pull' ourselves closer to the other player, then collapse on their legs with our body. The rule is trying to stop knee injuries due to the backs of legs being trapped under defenders bodies.
So how tf is a tackler who is outweighed supposed to take a runner down if he had to chase him down? Is he supposed to run passed him so he can now face him to avoid a horse collar and a hip drop? This is getting real dumb
Great question 🤔smh
wrap up good form, watch rugby you wont ever see a hipdrop tackle
@@vincentellsworth7905 dork read what he said
Literally use proper technique ya dunce🤦🏻 Nowhere do they teach you to tackle that way. Go look up what it actually is. Honestly I’d compare it to the same degree as horse collar. You don’t see people saying we should be able to horse collar nowadays
@vincentellsworth7905 have you never played football? This isn't rugby. It's played at a higher speed with stronger players in pads and a helmet. That was the dumbest reply and I would expect that to come from a swiftie.
Just another way to manage outcomes with inept/corrupt "officiating.
They handicap the defense so much you can't do anything anymore can't hold, trash talk, tackle high, tackle low, just switch it to 2 hand touch or flag at this point.
This rule is a huge disadvantage for smaller sized defenders.
no its not;
i played rugby for years and had to tackle people like twice my size, you never will see a hipdrop tackle in rugby
@@vincentellsworth7905this dude. In football you are never taught to tackle like that. I think a lot of idiots don’t even know what a hip drop tackle is. I compare it to the same as horse collar.
@@Rango390 exactly same thing as a clothesline. Its a cheap way to get a tackle when you're beat/ out of position
@@vincentellsworth7905 Then if a def player is chasing the ball carrier, how does he tackle them? Im generally confused how? Are they supposed to get in front of the ball carrier and risk even more injury? Also, I'm curious how you tackled people twice your size without hip tackles? I am a small guy, most people are a head taller than me, there is no other way to tackle those people?
@@DirtyCurti you wrap up around their hips/waist and if you have to fall you definitely dont intentionally fall on their feet hurting them
dumb af take you're on youtube no? type in "proper way to tackle" and learn clown
if a basketball player was short would you say its ok for his teammate to boost him up?? dont ever say youre too small
Getting closer and closer to NFFL National flag football League
This country and league are going to hell
That’s tough how you gonna fight for every yard but can’t fight to bring someone down 😂😂.
This reminds me of a clip of a defensive player hesitating to tackle the runner because they were trying to remember what the new rules were 🫠
NFL owners better turn this rule down
The owners have to know this will ruin there there bottom line with every rule change that waters football down
@@robertschoelerman7496uhhhhh the owners are the competition committee?? What they gonna vote against themselves?😂
@@robertschoelerman7496it won't. You say this every single year. And the views go up every year
@@dannyquilter8366The only reason the NFL had so many views was because of Taylor Swifts fanbase
Chiefs won’t…this is from Patrick MaMoan’s complaining
They want another control in which they can control the outcome of the games. Stupid and sad.
I've been watching the NFL for over 30 years and have never thought about not watching anymore. I'm getting closer every year to checking out on the game. It keeps getting more ridiculous every year. This rule is ridiculous.
I am right there with you! Really sucks, but I am not watching football that is not even football. NHL is becoming my sport of choice and NASCAR on Sunday's is fun after a few cold beers.
I get wanting to prevent injuries... fine, good, for the health of everybody, but I'm with ya. One more case of "wah wah wah, blah blah blah, let's change another rule in a game that is based on aggressive violence between teams of men" and I'm also just done with the league. If we wanted football to be a sport for pussies, we would give them flags and say "don't touch the guy with the ball".....
Watch this will effect the super bowl next year
Someone will do that to Isiah Pacheco and blow the game giving it to the Chiefs
It’s not going to pass, there are crazy rule proposals every season
Derrick Henry will have a record season because of it, propelling the Ravens to the super-bowl
@@connorberglund7032it 100% will. There's been dumber rules passed before
"Competition" committee doing everything in their power to remove competition from the game.
Eh bud
The National Touch Football League Roger Goodell has been dreaming of is almost upon us! Can't wait!
😂😂😂😂
We’re only about a decade away from just being 7 on 7. The pro bowl flag football game was your preview.
Sad
Wow NFL. Knee injuries will be at an All-Time high smh 🤦🏾
Really hope they don't do this the game is hard enough to watch as is dont need more ref ball
Roger Goodell's argument is that he played football for 7 years. This putz is such a DC born clown of a politician. Riding the bench is not considered playing football.
Hate goodell. That wuss ruined a great game. Ratings r inflated because of rigging I mean gambling and fantasy along with swifties now. I don’t watch anymore but hope the league falls like bud light
Just remember, NFL is considered entertainment. Legally allowed to rig the games
💯. Rigged, and fake I can even see players not trying. I hope the league collapses like bud light. Just have to keep showing people it is classified as entertainment like the wwe. It’s all setup
@joeheasley8046 every Sunday, I watch pros at the highest level make simple mistakes that high school JV players wouldn't make.
I have tried telling people this for years and they just laugh at me. Read your game ticket, it even states that it is for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES.
Jack Lambert said it best.
Ever since Dez "didnt" catch it this league has been decided by refs with every rule change since designed to give them more power.
🤣😂🤣😂football fans are smart😂🤣😂according to the rules on that day he didn’t catch it, move on🤡. They have since changed it though. When you replay it in your mind pretend it’s todays rules and cowboys just ended up losing the next week. Feel better?
@@Notyou69420"Cowboys just ended up losing next week."... WTF are you talking about 🤡 lmfffaaaooo. Go on a tangent much? 😂🤦♂️
But please, tell me how the Cowboys lost a playoff game, AND STILL PLAYED THE NEXT WEEK. 😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡
@@tankeaterBAWAHAHAHA, cowboys winning a playoff game? That's an amazing joke
@@Notyou69420 You are wrong and you let your hate cloud the truth. It was a catch then, it is a catch now. That's why it is so controversial.
@@Notyou69420use more emoji’s, I couldn’t understand your comment with just so few of them
So they passed this today. But from an Owners perspective I can understand it. The amount of times they sign guarantee contracts and that player ends up injured must make them angry.
So they’re trying everything to lower the risk of injury, but it really does hurt how the game looks
The player union should protest the rule.
They have. NFLPA has no power. They signed it away
They might as well go helmet to helmet, aim for a qbs legs, hit a defenseless receiver, regardless of consequences. If you can’t tackle without being penalized you might as well go all out.
When they do they penalize offensive players for trucking, juking, and stiff arming then?
They fines Jacobs and others this year for normal plays
whole league going to 💩
They have. RBs got fined every week last year for breaking tackles
@dannyquilter8366 will it be penalty now, though?
@@ladidadi2054 but will it be a penalty?
This sucks for everyone in the league, but football died this past February
I can only imagine e the number of flags thrown next year. It's going to take forever to complete a game. Just put flags on their hips and play flag football 😂
Refs can't enforce current rules effectively- lets add more!!! Brilliant! SMH
I know this about the hip drop tackle but I love the idea of getting your challenge back if you win the challenge. It really doesn’t make any sense that a coach can win 3 challenges but if the reds screw up a 4 th time they just got to accept that even if they woulda won another challenge. That needs to be changed.
The NFL is going to be a flag football league in 10 years at this rate
10? 1 year bud. Next year is all gone
The major problem I see with this: defensively you will essentially have to run through players you are PURSUING. Which, if the person you’re chasing is faster or bigger than you, you’re going to have a terrible time.
Tackled plenty of guys twice my size with proper technique. The hip drop tackle isn’t coached anywhere. It’s a really lazy dangerous way to do tackle somebody. I think many of you don’t even know what it looks like or what they mean. I’d compare it to the same as a horse collar
Nah you ain't no real ball player @@Rango390
As a ravens fan, we just got Derrick Henry and this rule would just make him unstoppable
Nah, this rule will have linebackers blowing his knees out every game.
He's gonna be out for season first game lol
I’ve never seen Henry get hip-dropped. It just doesn’t work on him
Definitely not unstoppable.
This rule is being debated because your boy Andrews got injured on a hip drop tackle tho 😅
colts just shouldnt be allowed to propose rule changes
I think a point that people dont bring up about this rule is that a hip drop tackle is commonly done by offensive players during turnovers, but no one ever says anything.
Owners are telling us they want more points scored. All these rules that hinder defenders, pretty soon they won’t be able to sneeze in the direction of offensive players
Stupid rule
These rules are destroying this sport. It will look like the Pro Bowl... if this continues.
Jeez this is getting ridiculous
It is like banning punches in boxing.
NFL is slowly becoming flag football.
Flag football is around the corner😢😢😢
Two Hand Touch coming in 2030
If this gets passed might as well make the game 2 hand touch
NFFL (National Flag Football League) coming soon. 🤬
Wait I played football for ten years. A lot of people I tried to tackle were better than me at football. I feel like this describes half the tackles I made WTF? Seems so subjective too to enforce.
New idea, we get rid of the defense and see how fast the offense can score fastest team to the endzone wins the game
Going to be so many blasted knees and ankles now. Lmao.
We deal with the same shite in Canadian rowing from people who don’t row. Last year at NRCs (national team try outs) the lightweight weigh ins were delayed by 2 hours because the “fairness committee” determined that lane 1 and 2 were too windy to row on. Problem being it was time trials day and we weren’t using them. We used the middle lanes that day.
I don't blame them. It is becoming impossible to play defense.
This. So this.
Practically impossible to tackle an offensive player now. Two hand touch will be in the near future.
Do you even know what a hip drop tackle is and what it looks like?
Football: how do you expect us to flip to tenths of a second under a minute?
Every Basketball Scoreboard On The Planet: o_O
Next time give DT’s a marker they have to draw an X on a QB to sack em
Not that it matters in the grand scheme of scheme of things, but if this becomes a penalty, not sure if I could watch the product. I already look for flags after a sack or hard hit, penalties for tackling in a normal manner, makes no sense
At this point just change the game to flag football. Good lord
I remember this became a serious possibility after the Bengals Ravens game when one cincy LB took out Andrews, a back, and almost Lamar in one game. Dude was doing some nasty stuff all game.
The problem isn't the dead weight itself. It's the dead weight onto the opposing players legs. Sometimes you see one of those tackles where it looks like there is an intentional effort to injure not just tackle.
Rules like this will be the downfall of the NFL.
I hope it does but gambling, fantasy and women keep the numbers up and from the comments weak men too. It’s definitely not football anymore. That ended in the early 2000s
@@joeheasley8046frs football is for women and gambling watered down BS
The NFL keeps inching me closer to not watching football.
So closer to watching football??
@@gojohnnymacgo thank you for the correction.
The concern I think is when the defender lands on the ball carrier’s legs, especially at an awkward angle.
After the harsh penalties for hitting QBs late, we found out that, actually, defenders CAN avoid hitting the QB, even with very little time to do so. I think the hope is that landing awkwardly on the ball carrier’s leg is the same kind of thing.
Man there gonna be a lot of broken tackles this year lol 😂
The players won't like it on both sides, for defenders hip drop tackle and inevitable depending on the angle you have, or if its a smaller player tackling say... a 6'6" 250lb tight end? Getting flagged for physics is dumb. Offensive guys wont like it because more guys are gonna be diving at knees.
That one defensive guy from Cincinnati used that move a lot, one game he injured 3 Raven Offense players including Lamar
They'll bring in a Lamar Rule soon
There have also been coaches that have been critical of the hip tackle when one of their offensive players have gotten injured because of it.
Just play flag football already
Is anybody gonna ever do anything about the NFL changing for the worst‼️
Stop watching!! NHL is way more fun than the National Flag League!
Lmao, and the fact ppl are confused, pretending tackling someone in the legs is the same as a hip drop as if we don’t know EXACTLY wtf the issue is, 🤡🤡🤡
Didn’t really hear the term hip drop tackle until last year from skip bayless. Sad that his crying on tv may have started this.
Casual
@@user-kn3tg6qc6e never said I didn’t know the term hip drop tackle or done something similar in jiu jitsu or wrestling, especially against larger teammates in sparring. Just didn’t hear that term in football until last year from skip. Think Sherman was opposite him on set when I saw it.
Because it's not a real term or method of tackling. It's just a drag-down.
spoiler alert: not a single one of those is going to be called against the chiefs
Shut up crybaby. They get the same amount of calls as everyone else, just because they didn’t go your way doesn’t mean they’re favored. CMC’s touchdown in the super bowl had an illegal man downfield and karlaftis was horse collared so he couldn’t get to him so people get away with plenty of calls against the chiefs so chill
I remember playing high school football and players getting bagged on in film when resulting to this form of tackling . This was like 2014
They need flags on the runner and the defender just grabs the flag 😂😂
PFFL isn’t far away. Professional flag football league isn’t far away, there is a reason they play it for the pro bowl now so people get use to it and they can toss in females in there as well.
I will stop watching
Just for Olympics dude .. lol the nfl would NEVER
@@ggbchronicles7355they definitely would. You have to been paying attention. League promotes flag football more than real football
If they pass this I will stop watching the game.
On our way to the National Flag League
We always called it rodeo tackles. 8th grade, our biggest kid took out me, the second biggest kid, and 2 running backs with those tackles in practice. So he got banned from tackling in practice
Pretty soon it’s just gonna be each player playing there character in madden 😂
Why don’t they just have the players vote???
Every offensive player votes yes and every defensive player votes no 😂
The best point made is show examples of a chase down or side-on tackle of a smaller defender effectively tackling and full steam RB or TE
At this point they need to just start allowing more defensive players on the field, because the constant rule changes to benefit the offense is ridiculous.
I guess I'll go to the mall on Sundays now, to chill with the ladies 😅.
Even in rugby you have hip drop tackles. As a winger back in high school the majority of the times I was tackle was by someone wrapping me up and just unweighting themselves to try slow/pull me down