@@davidporter7051 you have the dumb comment,nothing about emissions is making your vehicle last any longer, I have had many work trucks fail because of emissions problems on newer diesels. Ever wonder why so many people have deleted the emissions on their trucks....for better mileage longetivity and reliability. Your comment shows your lack of knowledge and lack of seat time in a diesel.
61k on my 2020 3.0 including hauling a 2k lb truck camper all over out west in 90+deg temps during 2 summers. Not a single issue. Has also survived NE Wisconsin winters without a hiccup.
I've had 2 little 3.0 Duramax engines, in a 2020 and 2022 Sierra. Put 40K on the 20 before trading it in and have just under 19k on my 22. I don't have a single bad word to say about them. My next new vehicle will likely have a 3.0 also.
That’s a rare issue likely due to owner negligence. Its very important to do a proper engine break in before the 1st oil change and do your 1st oil change no later than 5k miles.
40 thousand miles? 19 thousand miles and no trouble. Let's hope so. Come back and talk to us when you have 375,000 miles on one of them like my 5.9 Cummins. Good luck.
@pcmountaindog yes, the legendary Cummins is a beast but that reliability means nothing when your Ram 2500/3500 is on a hoist getting a replacement transmission for the 2nd time in 6 months. Ask me how I know!
@@Shomari_Supremeif you put gas into a diesel engine, you can basically say bye bye to the fuel system. Diesel has a lubricating effect and gasoline does not. It will rip it apart.
I miss the sound of a nice V8 but I get incredible power and mileage from my 2020 3.0. I’ve averaged 42.5 mph during one road trip and over 20 mph towing a 21 ft boat.
You called the DPF the DEF. The DPF is the big chamber, it catches the soot from the engine. The DEF getting pumped into the exhaust before the catalyst and after the DPF which turns NOx emissions into nitrogen and water. That's it. The biggest greenhouse gas a diesel produces is NOx due to the extremely high combustion temps. Edit: Your dislike of the EGR system I find kinda funny. GM placed the EGR after the DPF specifically so it would stop the primary failure problem of diesel EGR systems, the soot buildup. Your complain't of it being overcomplicated it almost comical considering that EGR system is one of the simplest ones ever created lol.
So they are injecting the def before the dpf???? Weird … cause on heavy trucks they pump in the def after the dpf and before the scr…… it sounds like the dpf would get clogged sooner just from the def deposits .
@@jonathangarzon2798 Have actual scientific data to prove this, or is it just some shit you made up because you feel a certain way about it? I am not defending these systems, but fact based evidence is important.
@@OddBallPerformance gotcha we call the first component the diesel oxidation chamber then the diesel particulate filter then a decomposing tube where the def is dozed and then the select catalyst reduction…..
It’s crazy how every video talking about this engine I see the comments full of dumbasses saying stuff about the oil pump belt as if every gas engine made in the last 30 years doesn’t have a ridiculously complex and expensive timing system that will grenade the engine if it doesn’t get replaced every 100-150k. Why is it okay for a gas engine to need a major service at 150k but not a diesel? Btw I own one of these. It’s 2500 bucks at the dealer to get the belt changed. If you can’t afford that you can’t afford the vehicle the engine comes with, I promise.
Why name calling? I bet you have made a stupid mistake in your life. The world has been paying more for diesel engines due to better fuel economy and life of the engine. Pay more up front and reap savings over hundreds of thousands of miles. The cars and trucks that have chains are better. I had a Volvo diesel crater on me years ago for the effing belt. Perhaps I will run my Ecodiesel til GM decides to make their engines bulletproof.
If the government wouldn't be in the way with all the emissions these engines would get better fuel economy and cut the cost. My 2022 Duramax 6.6 with a 10 speed transmission gets worst mpg and burns DEF than my 2005 no emissions. I could get over 20 - 23 mpg on the highway in my 2005, and lucky to get 19 on my 2022.
The government didn’t get in the way of anything. They required a reduction in air pollution, because that is what the people demanded. Don’t like it, move to India they have horrible air quality.
Something isn't quite right with yours then. Had a 2020 and now a 2023 l5p and both are getting 20-25mpg on the highway with about 2500-3000 pounds of payload and use relatively little Def.
Great video of the LZ0, thank you for taking the time to film and walk us through everything. I'm hoping maybe I'll see this display at the Texas State Fair this October!
I finally got a chance to drive a 2020 LM2 Silverado yesterday. Truck had approximately 85k miles and I LOVED it! The power delivery is instant and I hardly had to give it any gas to get it moving. It had more power and torque at half throttle than my current 5.3 at full throttle. Amazing engine and I can’t wait to get one. Not sure if it’ll be the LM2 or LZ0. Will depend on truck pricing.
Can't wait for my LZ0! It sounds like the LM2 has been a fairly solid power plant, and it looks like GM only improved with the next gen. Hopefully increased longevtivity too
@@ElectricBlueIXthey're decent from what I read but they do have oil burning on a few. I wonder if the steel pistons was to take care of that issue tbh. Steel has less heat expansion than aluminum so it would make sense
@@codyweiler6083 no…its not an issue. My truck runs perfectly fine. I change my oil between 3,000 and 5,000 miles. During that time it will burn a quart or more of oil. A brand new engine typically does burn oil on break in.
Damn. Awesome video. Glad I finally found it... a technical person talking about technical aspects of the engine! Considering this engine for my next truck to supplement my '16 LTZ 6.2 that I've turned into an overlander. I "want to believe" I have my doubts about the longevity of this 3.0 diesel. Especially when the 5.3's and 6.2's have proven to be pretty reliable. Mine is at 163k and is still running very well, no issues whatsoever.
You failed to point out that the steel pistons allowed them to make them more compact and smaller than the aluminum. So overall the weight of the steel pistons are still the same as the aluminums.
It will be great if the government stopped their silly EPA emissions bs, so we could get better diesel engines. The DEF delete is what makes the bigger engines better
Why are you blaming the EPA? The EPA was created for people. People who want to protect the environment where they and their children live. The EPA is just doing what they were created to do.
@@stephenrys7905 Saving the planet one box and plastic bottle at a time. Nevermind the urea is medical grade, has to be refined and transported to a place that combines it with processed and purified water that is placed into a plastic SINGLE USE BOTTLE and then into a box to be transported to a end sale location for the consumer to purchase and dispose of. Yeah...saving the planet.
@@KravinMoorehedfar from every truck stop has them. I can go hundreds of miles and not come across one Def pump. Furthermore, most Def pumps stop pumping around 20-25⁰F and my winter spends way too much time there to even think about using one of those pumps.
Just bought a GMC 1500 Denali with the 3.0L LZO. Trip odometer says 927 miles, 28.4 mpg. 90% of this trip was interstate highway, 75 mph on the cruise control in 70 mph zone. Yeah, I’m happy.
I was intrigued until I saw the chain in the back. I originally saw this show up in Audi and Mercedes engines. Can't believe more people are adopting the application. I wanna do a cam swap in my driveway in a single afternoon.
Just found out today that my 2023 AT4 with this Duramax with only 13,000 miles has to have the entire engine replaced. Pretty pissed off. Warranty repair, but still, this sucks. Noticed a small oil leak. I took it to the dealer, and they said the front seal was leaking. They replaced the seal, but it continued to leak. Saying something is wrong with the crankshaft, preventing a proper seal, and it's cheaper to just replace the entire engine. Waiting on GM to approve the work and look for an engine to be shipped to my dealer for installation. At least 3-week job. Horrible.
Would be perfect if it wasn’t for having that belt… sure it’s supposed to last to 200k miles… but If or when you need to replace it you have to pull the whole transmission off to change it or even check it.. if they just made that a chain… boom, perfect.
A chain would require a tensioner which would increase the length of the engine which already just barely fits into the engine bay. It was a design compromise, sounds like it has not been problematic yet, time will prove out if it's going to be an issue. Too early to tell yet.
@@delorean831 According to one of the engineers who worked on the design team if they used a chain it would require a tensioner. That reason is theirs not my own.
I won't go with this LZ0 amd stay away from LM2. My 2021 had an engine replaced due to oil leaks. Engineers said poor block casting was the issue. Hopefully there were very few like mine! That being said, I enjoyed this engine as a 1/2 ton option.
Haven't seen too many. Most aluminum engine blocks are high pressure die-cast because of the precision and increase block strength but even a tiny bit of contaminants can cause porosity that leads to an engine leak.
I've had 3 euro diesel cars, all older, and totally bulletproof (over 500k kms), but i havent had a diesel in over 15 years. I'm about to sell my 11' Tacoma (too small for the family), and the LZ0 has definitely caught my attention, specifically in a ZR2. Can anyone point out the biggest issues these engines have when they get to high mileage (+150k miles)? Also, how does the trans stack up? Thanks folks.
They know everything buddy. They know everything. Ought to ask yourself how do they know. Psst your cellphone you're self snitching all day and don't know it.@@bradhaines3142
Looks like a lot of corners cut and money saving parts while hiking prices. But then again, we all know engineers get it right the first time. If it doesn't have a Cummins mated with an Allison is it really reliable?
What kind of high pressure fuel pump does engine use? I have looked online extensively and cannot find the manufacturer or model. Hopefully not a Bosch CP4?
@@swimers100thats cheap. the bosch pump he mentioned is known for going bad, throwing metal straight through the injectors blowing the engine. knew a guy that almost had to spend 16k on an engine because of that pump
You called the DPF a DOC and the DOC the DEF. The first canister off the turbo is the DPF filter with is part of the aftertreatment system and the second is the DOC which is part of the SCR system. 2 separate systems.
Still using a belt for the oil pump why??? That’s gotta be the stupidest thing I ever seen! I’m sure the technicians love doing that job and the customers love paying big 💰💵
YEP! So at 10 years old we have to kick out over $2 grand? By then it will be more. Or...the rest of the world finds out and the used value plummets. Or....the damn thing goes before 200k and Chevy won't fix.
they changed the location of the DOC to be closer to the turbo. so if you can see a big muffler looking part right next to the turbo youre looking at a LZ0
It’s going to use oil from the very beginning ,and then at 120,000 miles that stupid belt at the back of the engine is going to need replacing at around 1200 dollars . In the first generation the belt needed replacing at 100,000 miles ,for some people that comes quickly. One would think they could use a chain instead of the belt and make it last the life of the engine . So for me I’ll pass on anything GM.
These are produced by the GM Flint Engine Plant. In addition the 3.0 LM2 was originally Co- developed with OPEL back in 2018, which I find very interesting. Everyone asks me if I like my Isuzu, I politely tell them the facts.
So to replace the cam timing chains and that oil pump belt, which, being GM will be around 100k miles, you have to remove the entire engine? Brilliant!
It’s amazing how many gas engines require the entire timing system to be replaced every 100-150k and nobody bats an eye but a diesel needs a belt every 150k and people lose their fucking minds.
@@jellyfrosh9102 I don't have an issue with timing belt or chain replacement when it's designed to be replaceable. This engine has everything in the back of the engine driven off the crankshaft. That means getting the transmission or engine out, the flywheel off, then any covers to expose the chains/belts. Basically they designed it like those timing components won't fail, but we all know they will.
@@tigermanmccool4037 Just pulling the cab won't help. The chains and pump belt are driven from the back of the crankshaft. So you still need to remove the transmission or engine, remove the flywheel then remove any rear covers to expose the belts/chains. Why they didn't put the timing components on the front of the engine is bizarre.
People only need to know 2 things. All the chains and timing components are on the back side on the engine where we can't get to them It has a rubber belt driving the oil pump. Talk about stupid. NO SALE.
Timing components are 0 maintenance and I don't believe there has been a single belt failure since this bitch came out. If you can drive a 1200hp drag racing snowmobile with a rubber belt you can run a variable displacement oil pump with one.
@@454budman I don't think they are releasing it to the large SUVs until 2024. And they haven't shown any interest in redesigning the AT4 or Z71 front ends to accept the diesel - which is a shame. It would check off a lot of boxes for me.
@@ktpinnacle are you talking about the LZ0 or lm2 because theyve had them in the suv. I looked at them bc my brother has a sierra with it and I like it, but with my wife driving a 6.2l would be less maintenance and more fun to drive to get groceries
@@mattcaesar5781 When it comes to the AT4 and Z71 in the large SUVs, neither version of the Duramax fits. They are available in the other versions. But the LZ0 evidently won't be available in the large SUVs until the 2024 upgrades.
You'll be paying big money for an engine that will die quick. GM does not care, they get huge rewards from the government for every fraction of a mile they save in fuel milage.
This engine isn't going to last it will burn its self up blow the headgasket and burn oil. Beside the back pressure from the emissions and why the hell did they put a Cadillac Converter on a diesel motor 🤯 Direct Injection diesel is 500x worse then a gasoline engine with direct injection. Did they just think of everything to put on a motor to make it fail 🤔
😂 this dude knows very little about engines. Next time, do a little research on each part of the engine you're talking about so you don't sound so ignorant and lose credibility with your viewers.
DEF systems improve emissions by increasing down time incurred by system failure
The best explanation I’ve ever heard 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Dumb comment. Engines as a whole are running longer and more miles than ever.
@@davidporter7051 you have the dumb comment,nothing about emissions is making your vehicle last any longer, I have had many work trucks fail because of emissions problems on newer diesels. Ever wonder why so many people have deleted the emissions on their trucks....for better mileage longetivity and reliability. Your comment shows your lack of knowledge and lack of seat time in a diesel.
61k on my 2020 3.0 including hauling a 2k lb truck camper all over out west in 90+deg temps during 2 summers. Not a single issue. Has also survived NE Wisconsin winters without a hiccup.
Nice to know about the winters Thinking of a 3.0 But Canadian winters -30c scares me for froze def emissions ✌️👍🇨🇦
61k is still a virgin in terms of longevity.
@@gk9417 get the block heater and you will be ok
Routing the EGR to collect exhaust AFTER the DPF is a huge advantage for this engine.
Can I ask what the big advantage is? Thanks.
Soot does not enter the intake system.
Its even past the SCR so its only routing tailpipe exhaust into the intake.
I've had 2 little 3.0 Duramax engines, in a 2020 and 2022 Sierra. Put 40K on the 20 before trading it in and have just under 19k on my 22. I don't have a single bad word to say about them. My next new vehicle will likely have a 3.0 also.
Is what they say about the massive amounts of oil consumption true?
That’s a rare issue likely due to owner negligence. Its very important to do a proper engine break in before the 1st oil change and do your 1st oil change no later than 5k miles.
40 thousand miles? 19 thousand miles and no trouble. Let's hope so. Come back and talk to us when you have 375,000 miles on one of them like my 5.9 Cummins. Good luck.
I have 60k on my diesel and it hasn't used a drop- even with the 7500 mi change interval.@@Ducati_rider69
@pcmountaindog yes, the legendary Cummins is a beast but that reliability means nothing when your Ram 2500/3500 is on a hoist getting a replacement transmission for the 2nd time in 6 months. Ask me how I know!
Picked one up in a sierra elevation. Little beast of a diesel engine.
I have a 2021 3.0 DURAMAX I have owned diesels trucks all my life this is by far the best
Then you never owned a 3126E or a 7.3 Powerstroke or a 5.9Cummins.
So it’s strictly diesel gas ⛽️ at the pump?
@@Shomari_Supremeif you put gas into a diesel engine, you can basically say bye bye to the fuel system. Diesel has a lubricating effect and gasoline does not. It will rip it apart.
Would opt for this engine over electric!
Not with a rubber belt driving the oil pump.
@pcmountaindog what's the problem? It has a service rating of 200k miles.
Egr getting air post filter is huge.
I miss the sound of a nice V8 but I get incredible power and mileage from my 2020 3.0. I’ve averaged 42.5 mph during one road trip and over 20 mph towing a 21 ft boat.
You called the DPF the DEF. The DPF is the big chamber, it catches the soot from the engine. The DEF getting pumped into the exhaust before the catalyst and after the DPF which turns NOx emissions into nitrogen and water. That's it. The biggest greenhouse gas a diesel produces is NOx due to the extremely high combustion temps.
Edit: Your dislike of the EGR system I find kinda funny. GM placed the EGR after the DPF specifically so it would stop the primary failure problem of diesel EGR systems, the soot buildup. Your complain't of it being overcomplicated it almost comical considering that EGR system is one of the simplest ones ever created lol.
So they are injecting the def before the dpf???? Weird … cause on heavy trucks they pump in the def after the dpf and before the scr…… it sounds like the dpf would get clogged sooner just from the def deposits .
The system itself is a 50% removal of motor life
@@jonathangarzon2798 Have actual scientific data to prove this, or is it just some shit you made up because you feel a certain way about it? I am not defending these systems, but fact based evidence is important.
@@dieseldawg7132 It's not before the DPF... The primary is before the first catalyst. Secondary is after the first catalyst.
@@OddBallPerformance gotcha we call the first component the diesel oxidation chamber then the diesel particulate filter then a decomposing tube where the def is dozed and then the select catalyst reduction…..
It’s crazy how every video talking about this engine I see the comments full of dumbasses saying stuff about the oil pump belt as if every gas engine made in the last 30 years doesn’t have a ridiculously complex and expensive timing system that will grenade the engine if it doesn’t get replaced every 100-150k. Why is it okay for a gas engine to need a major service at 150k but not a diesel? Btw I own one of these. It’s 2500 bucks at the dealer to get the belt changed. If you can’t afford that you can’t afford the vehicle the engine comes with, I promise.
LZ0 is 200k
@@mudslutmusic9052 actually GM has stated the LM2 is also at 200k now. Look at the part #. It’s the exact part # on both
@@ZmannR2 nice
I think because in this case it's because that belt is on the back of the engine and it's a lot more difficult to get to and service.
Why name calling? I bet you have made a stupid mistake in your life. The world has been paying more for diesel engines due to better fuel economy and life of the engine. Pay more up front and reap savings over hundreds of thousands of miles. The cars and trucks that have chains are better. I had a Volvo diesel crater on me years ago for the effing belt. Perhaps I will run my Ecodiesel til GM decides to make their engines bulletproof.
If the government wouldn't be in the way with all the emissions these engines would get better fuel economy and cut the cost. My 2022 Duramax 6.6 with a 10 speed transmission gets worst mpg and burns DEF than my 2005 no emissions. I could get over 20 - 23 mpg on the highway in my 2005, and lucky to get 19 on my 2022.
The government didn’t get in the way of anything. They required a reduction in air pollution, because that is what the people demanded. Don’t like it, move to India they have horrible air quality.
Something isn't quite right with yours then. Had a 2020 and now a 2023 l5p and both are getting 20-25mpg on the highway with about 2500-3000 pounds of payload and use relatively little Def.
Great video of the LZ0, thank you for taking the time to film and walk us through everything. I'm hoping maybe I'll see this display at the Texas State Fair this October!
I finally got a chance to drive a 2020 LM2 Silverado yesterday. Truck had approximately 85k miles and I LOVED it! The power delivery is instant and I hardly had to give it any gas to get it moving. It had more power and torque at half throttle than my current 5.3 at full throttle. Amazing engine and I can’t wait to get one. Not sure if it’ll be the LM2 or LZ0. Will depend on truck pricing.
I test drove a silverado 3.0 Duramax and was very impressed with it.i was impressed with the 3.0 Duramax I'm buying a GMC/ Chevrolet in the spring.
Can't wait for my LZ0! It sounds like the LM2 has been a fairly solid power plant, and it looks like GM only improved with the next gen. Hopefully increased longevtivity too
What do you mean by increased longevity? Has a single LM2 engine failed?
@@ElectricBlueIXthey're decent from what I read but they do have oil burning on a few. I wonder if the steel pistons was to take care of that issue tbh. Steel has less heat expansion than aluminum so it would make sense
@@codyweiler6083 my 5.3 burns oil too. Some engines do and some don’t. That’s not an issue.
@@ElectricBlueIX oil burning isn't an issue? Ummm. Yes it is lol. A new properly working engine shouldn't burn oil.
@@codyweiler6083 no…its not an issue. My truck runs perfectly fine. I change my oil between 3,000 and 5,000 miles. During that time it will burn a quart or more of oil.
A brand new engine typically does burn oil on break in.
Damn. Awesome video. Glad I finally found it... a technical person talking about technical aspects of the engine! Considering this engine for my next truck to supplement my '16 LTZ 6.2 that I've turned into an overlander.
I "want to believe" I have my doubts about the longevity of this 3.0 diesel. Especially when the 5.3's and 6.2's have proven to be pretty reliable. Mine is at 163k and is still running very well, no issues whatsoever.
I would be impressed if I knew how engines worked
You failed to point out that the steel pistons allowed them to make them more compact and smaller than the aluminum. So overall the weight of the steel pistons are still the same as the aluminums.
It will be great if the government stopped their silly EPA emissions bs, so we could get better diesel engines. The DEF delete is what makes the bigger engines better
Why are you blaming the EPA? The EPA was created for people. People who want to protect the environment where they and their children live. The EPA is just doing what they were created to do.
@@stephenrys7905 Saving the planet one box and plastic bottle at a time. Nevermind the urea is medical grade, has to be refined and transported to a place that combines it with processed and purified water that is placed into a plastic SINGLE USE BOTTLE and then into a box to be transported to a end sale location for the consumer to purchase and dispose of.
Yeah...saving the planet.
@@Meh-2023I buy my DEF from the bulk dispensers available at every truckstop.
@@Meh-2023I pump my def fluid directly from a pump at a local truck stop
@@KravinMoorehedfar from every truck stop has them. I can go hundreds of miles and not come across one Def pump. Furthermore, most Def pumps stop pumping around 20-25⁰F and my winter spends way too much time there to even think about using one of those pumps.
Just bought a GMC 1500 Denali with the 3.0L LZO. Trip odometer says 927 miles, 28.4 mpg. 90% of this trip was interstate highway, 75 mph on the cruise control in 70 mph zone. Yeah, I’m happy.
Gotta love that mileage in a full size 4x4!
I was intrigued until I saw the chain in the back. I originally saw this show up in Audi and Mercedes engines. Can't believe more people are adopting the application. I wanna do a cam swap in my driveway in a single afternoon.
These engines are packed in tight. Ridiculously tight. There is no room for a timing system up front, unfortunately
Just found out today that my 2023 AT4 with this Duramax with only 13,000 miles has to have the entire engine replaced. Pretty pissed off. Warranty repair, but still, this sucks. Noticed a small oil leak. I took it to the dealer, and they said the front seal was leaking. They replaced the seal, but it continued to leak. Saying something is wrong with the crankshaft, preventing a proper seal, and it's cheaper to just replace the entire engine. Waiting on GM to approve the work and look for an engine to be shipped to my dealer for installation. At least 3-week job. Horrible.
Would be perfect if it wasn’t for having that belt… sure it’s supposed to last to 200k miles… but If or when you need to replace it you have to pull the whole transmission off to change it or even check it.. if they just made that a chain… boom, perfect.
Maybe someone will come up with an aftermarket chain and sprocket to replace the oil pump belt.
A chain would require a tensioner which would increase the length of the engine which already just barely fits into the engine bay. It was a design compromise, sounds like it has not been problematic yet, time will prove out if it's going to be an issue. Too early to tell yet.
@@chrisspencer9400 Great explanation, I was wondering about that. Otherwise love the LZ0 design. Just ordered a MY24 Silverado ZR2 with the LZ0 today.
@@chrisspencer9400Oil pump chains don’t require tensioners.
@@delorean831 According to one of the engineers who worked on the design team if they used a chain it would require a tensioner. That reason is theirs not my own.
Great Engine. I have one. Its the best ive ever experienced. Super high quality and very heavy duty. ❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
Excellent video review on the new LZO Duramax! Thanks
I won't go with this LZ0 amd stay away from LM2. My 2021 had an engine replaced due to oil leaks. Engineers said poor block casting was the issue. Hopefully there were very few like mine! That being said, I enjoyed this engine as a 1/2 ton option.
Haven't seen too many. Most aluminum engine blocks are high pressure die-cast because of the precision and increase block strength but even a tiny bit of contaminants can cause porosity that leads to an engine leak.
LZ0 ENGINE ROCKS!!! ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
I've had 3 euro diesel cars, all older, and totally bulletproof (over 500k kms), but i havent had a diesel in over 15 years. I'm about to sell my 11' Tacoma (too small for the family), and the LZ0 has definitely caught my attention, specifically in a ZR2.
Can anyone point out the biggest issues these engines have when they get to high mileage (+150k miles)? Also, how does the trans stack up?
Thanks folks.
Can’t wait to delete this little beast
Ha
until you get fined out the bung hole by the EPA.
@jeremypilot1015 what they dont know cant kill you
They know everything buddy. They know everything. Ought to ask yourself how do they know. Psst your cellphone you're self snitching all day and don't know it.@@bradhaines3142
Looks like a lot of corners cut and money saving parts while hiking prices. But then again, we all know engineers get it right the first time. If it doesn't have a Cummins mated with an Allison is it really reliable?
You can’t get a Cummins mated to an Allison in any pick up trucks. They were never made that way by the big three.
I just got one and the mileage is SUPER good.
Are you need to get engine out to change timing chains?
What kind of high pressure fuel pump does engine use? I have looked online extensively and cannot find the manufacturer or model. Hopefully not a Bosch CP4?
It's the Denso HP5. Also the injectors Denso G3.5 injectors at 36K psi.
They’re like a $1,000! Wow😮
@@swimers100thats cheap. the bosch pump he mentioned is known for going bad, throwing metal straight through the injectors blowing the engine. knew a guy that almost had to spend 16k on an engine because of that pump
@@bradhaines3142 Yeah not having the pos Bosch CP4 is a huge relief.
My favorite part is the rubber belt for the oil pump 😆
You called the DPF a DOC and the DOC the DEF.
The first canister off the turbo is the DPF filter with is part of the aftertreatment system and the second is the DOC which is part of the SCR system. 2 separate systems.
Imagine how much further we would be without emissions equipment, a smarter design and good tuning.
I own a 2021 in a Silverado, I have owned diesels all my life. this is the best
Starting at 1:30 that guy really wanted to be in your video lol.
They’re going to sell lots of these if the keep perfecting them. Looks like some nice changes over the LM2.
I bet that thing is a nightmare to work on.
Delete kit out yet?
Nah
First is the plastic intake that goes next is the belt later down the road is the cat and turbo 🤷♂️ not too bad
Still using a belt for the oil pump why??? That’s gotta be the stupidest thing I ever seen!
I’m sure the technicians love doing that job and the customers love paying big 💰💵
YEP! So at 10 years old we have to kick out over $2 grand? By then it will be more. Or...the rest of the world finds out and the used value plummets. Or....the damn thing goes before 200k and Chevy won't fix.
@@DavidMosby$75,000 Truck $2,000 scheduled maintenance in ten years. What are yo complaining about?
@@DavidMosbyAre you worried you won't be able to save the 50 cents a day it will take to replace the belt?
I am trying to find the def injector, can’t find the location? I am getting an error, crystallized def injector.
The worst scenario in that engine is if you need to work in timing chain is something you need removed the transmission ( horrible ). No good
If its still got a rubber belt submerged in oil to drive the oil pump, stay away!! Possibly one of the dumbest things chevys ever done.
Is this motor available in a 24 yukon or tahoe?
Where are they made? Canada or USA?
belt for the oil pump and in the rear.... i hope you dont need to pull the engine to change that belt
Hello, thanks for sharing this information. Question: how can you tell (with the engine serial number) if it is an LM2 or LZ0 engine? thank
2023 and up Silverado and Sierras are LZ0 but 2023 SUV’s still have the LM2
Year of the truck and the way the Def/Turbo area looks.
they changed the location of the DOC to be closer to the turbo. so if you can see a big muffler looking part right next to the turbo youre looking at a LZ0
High quality plastic that never breaks. HAHAHA! Right
Who’s the GD hoodlum with the white hoodie?!?!
Ya for real, GTFO of my video bro
Just a suggestion- learn all about your subject b4 you make a video.
Maybe you should fully understand an engine before you create content for it?
Belt on the oil pump … seriously??
Think I want one.
Get this and other diesel powered trucks at your local dealer starting at $90,000
Mid 50s for the 3.0 elevation
You do realize the 6.7L Cummins is also an inline 6 right?
I have a built 6.7 and a LZ0 they are both pulling machines.
And your point is??
Right, Cummins 6.7L inline 6 just like the big 15L inline 6 cummins motors which run 1 million miles.
IM WAITING FOR lZO STARTS GOING INTO TAHOE BEFORE I BUY ONE HURRY UP CHEVY
Pretty suren the 23 and 24 tahoes are
Can’t wait to get a new tahoe
all i need to know is
the oil pump drive belt replacement is ludicrous
I love my lzo
What year and how many miles?
It’s going to use oil from the very beginning ,and then at 120,000 miles that stupid belt at the back of the engine is going to need replacing at around 1200 dollars . In the first generation the belt needed replacing at 100,000 miles ,for some people that comes quickly. One would think they could use a chain instead of the belt and make it last the life of the engine . So for me I’ll pass on anything GM.
That belt is guaranteed for 200k miles now by GM. So stop worrying about it
does izuzu make this??
These are produced by the GM Flint Engine Plant. In addition the 3.0 LM2 was originally Co- developed with OPEL back in 2018, which I find very interesting. Everyone asks me if I like my Isuzu, I politely tell them the facts.
Isuzu co developed the first duramax way back in 2001. They haven’t had anything to do with it since
He said dirty max
Sounds like you had a lot of "I don’t know" comments.
Belt driven oil pump is terrible, doesn't last 150kmi , and very costly to repair !
Has anyone built a mechanical pump for this?
That stupid rubber belt is junk wouldn't buy a single one. 5 Grand to replace that rubber belt at 150-200K no thank you.
Too bad you gotta put all that fancy stuff on there for me just to delete it.
So to replace the cam timing chains and that oil pump belt, which, being GM will be around 100k miles, you have to remove the entire engine? Brilliant!
they pull the cab off to replace the oil pump belt , nice and expensive ...100k is the inspection of belt , belts are good for 200k they say now
It’s amazing how many gas engines require the entire timing system to be replaced every 100-150k and nobody bats an eye but a diesel needs a belt every 150k and people lose their fucking minds.
@@jellyfrosh9102 I don't have an issue with timing belt or chain replacement when it's designed to be replaceable. This engine has everything in the back of the engine driven off the crankshaft. That means getting the transmission or engine out, the flywheel off, then any covers to expose the chains/belts. Basically they designed it like those timing components won't fail, but we all know they will.
@@tigermanmccool4037 Just pulling the cab won't help. The chains and pump belt are driven from the back of the crankshaft. So you still need to remove the transmission or engine, remove the flywheel then remove any rear covers to expose the belts/chains. Why they didn't put the timing components on the front of the engine is bizarre.
@@toddstidham8374 there are tons of engines with timing components at the back of the engine
People only need to know 2 things.
All the chains and timing components are on the back side on the engine where we can't get to them
It has a rubber belt driving the oil pump. Talk about stupid.
NO SALE.
Timing components are 0 maintenance and I don't believe there has been a single belt failure since this bitch came out. If you can drive a 1200hp drag racing snowmobile with a rubber belt you can run a variable displacement oil pump with one.
Trash! They didn't fix the biggest problem. The rubber oil pump belt. Lol insane they would do that
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DEF system improve is Regen every 150 miles … 🤨
DEF has nothing to do with DPF regeneration.
No
All I know is that I can't get one in the 2024 Yukon or Tahoe, especially the AT4 and Z71.
You can get it in the Yukon or Tahoe just not the Z71 or AT4 package
@@454budman I don't think they are releasing it to the large SUVs until 2024. And they haven't shown any interest in redesigning the AT4 or Z71 front ends to accept the diesel - which is a shame. It would check off a lot of boxes for me.
@@ktpinnacle are you talking about the LZ0 or lm2 because theyve had them in the suv. I looked at them bc my brother has a sierra with it and I like it, but with my wife driving a 6.2l would be less maintenance and more fun to drive to get groceries
@@mattcaesar5781 When it comes to the AT4 and Z71 in the large SUVs, neither version of the Duramax fits. They are available in the other versions. But the LZ0 evidently won't be available in the large SUVs until the 2024 upgrades.
I test drove a Serria AT4 with a 3.0 new DuraMax last week
Why a belt
Because GM is trash and Mary Barra is a C U Next Thursday.
You'll be paying big money for an engine that will die quick. GM does not care, they get huge rewards from the government for every fraction of a mile they save in fuel milage.
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You brain dead??? This is an amazing motor and the first motor I would put in any 1/2 ton
This engine isn't going to last it will burn its self up blow the headgasket and burn oil. Beside the back pressure from the emissions and why the hell did they put a Cadillac Converter on a diesel motor 🤯 Direct Injection diesel is 500x worse then a gasoline engine with direct injection. Did they just think of everything to put on a motor to make it fail 🤔
Yet they’re amazing motors and everyone loves em
😂 this dude knows very little about engines. Next time, do a little research on each part of the engine you're talking about so you don't sound so ignorant and lose credibility with your viewers.
Thx for watching! I appreciate the criticism. What did I get wrong?
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What a mess Chevy has done
How's Furd's diesel working out for them in their famous F-One-Fitty?
To replace oil pump belt and injector pump. Transmission has to be removed. What a shame.
Omg every 200k miles!!!! Smother us with the aids quilt now!
@@EBIndy OMG I laughed so hard at that last part. Thanks for the best part of my morning. LOL
Your attempt at humor with the dirtymax comment, cost you a like and new subscriber. 😖
Omg I'm so sad 🤣
Powerstroke > Duramax
LOL - Good luck buying a 2023 F-One-Fitty with a powerchoke...(Furd discontinued them🤭)
PowahJoke!! 🤣
The power stroke doesn’t get 28mpg like my 3.0 diesel!