Surface Pro 9 REVIEW - Should You Buy This?
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VIdeo Index:
00:00 Intro
01:00 Specs & Pricing
02:37 Build & Size
03:17 Internals & SSD Upgrade
04:17 Signature Keyboard Cover
04:45 Ports & Connections
05:54 Display
07:09 Surface Slim Pen 2
07:30 Keyboard & Touchpad
08:01 Windows Studio Effects, Webcam & Array Mics
10:26 Performance, Benchmarks & Gaming
11:51 Thermals, Fan Noise & Surface Temps
12:31 Battery Life & Charging Times
14:01 Audio
14:26 Competition
15:07 Pros & Cons
16:59 The Score
17:36 Final Thoughts
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Thank you for the great comparison review Andrew, good to have a channel like yours to see independent reviews. I'm actually surprised the Intel 12th generation had better battery life vs the 11th generation, it just seems that Intel prioritized power vs battery life in this iteration in most laptops. Personally, I'm choosing between the SP9 Intel and the Lenovo Z13...
Very good review that helps me make decision. One quick questions, is the noise level of the intel version good for recording use? I hope to purchase it as a backup computer for recording using Studio One or Pro Tools
The video and audio quality of the built in webcam and mics are clear on both but I think I prefer the one with ARM and 5g. The all metal design is always a plus with me. Nice to have decent audio and the Surface Pro 9 seems to deliver that. The problem with Microsoft is that when all is said and done with the extra peripherals you’ll be adding such as the keyboard to the package, it will get pricey as Andrew stated it. Once again, you’ll be better off getting a comparable Dell laptop and save yourself some money in the end. Great video once again Andrew! Appreciate it and appreciate you as well!! 👍😁
Thanks Rafael!
I must say fantastic review plus you write the specs perfect so it's easy to compare keep doin this
Glad you liked it!
You the man!! Great video as always
Thanks Jordan!
that npu.... didn't expect that much of a difference. Very impressive. Also, very good review for pointing it out!
Thanks!
Great detailed review! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Why do MS refuse to provide such an excellent reviewer with sample devices? Surely it benefits them to have open and honest reviews? This was the only review I've seen that contained comparative analysis between the SP8, SP9 & SP9 SQ3/5G. This is really useful and unique. I am a Professor and record lectures and I need an ultraportable device that can do this on the fly. The SP9 SQ3 inbuilt mic array seemed to deliver audio recording that was almost on par with your expensive studio mics. It blew away the SP9. Am i correct in that assumption? Keep up the great work Andrew, you were on fire for this review!
Thanks! Really appreciate it! Yes the mics sounded great
Love this review, was kind of helpful. I just want to know if surface pro 8 or surface pro 9 is better for like college.
One of the best tech reviews I have seen Great Job
Thanks!
Great Andrew! This is what I have been looking for. So I will buy 9 in the next year! lol pro 8 is providing great deals recently.
Not much different for my needs.
Thank you bro.
I buy the Surface Pros just for the webcams. Quality hasn't changed much since the SP6, but that goes to show how good the SP6 webcam was already.
Great video, would you recommend this surface for light autocad floor plan drawings? I'm an architect looking for a super portable device when going for site visits and site measurements
Thank you for comparison of Pro 8 and Pro 9 ARM. I returned my Pro 9 ARM, but will happily look at repurchasing future generations of this product. It's getting there....
why did you return it?
@@_Digitalguy performance concerns. My expectations may have been unrealistic with expecting MacBook Air performance in a better 2-in-1 form factor.
Extremely, extremely professional review! Very well done, razor sharp breakdown.
I just discovered your channel. I love your informative style! Great content! By the way, I found the 5G sound to be MUCH better than the Intel sound - was that because of studio effects in the 5G or something else?
Thanks and yes
Hey Andrew great review. Question does the Surface Pro 8 comes with upgradable ssd
Yes
Great reviews 👍
Thanks!
Nice job Andrew! I'm ask the question if I should sell my Galaxy Book Pro 360 for the Surface Pro 9?
agree with the nits. Was a headphone jack that expensive to justify removing it? Sometimes is just so convenient plugging in some buds.
I like this! I wasn't into the Surface Pro tablets, but this is nice! Plus, the front face camera & mic are really nice!
Thanks!
Hi Andrew,
Great Review , It's possible to play video games using an external GPU on the inter version of this tablet?
You can as it has thunderbolt 4
You should re-visit the SQ3 modell, is it a good pick for late 2023 with the updated windows 11?
Great review
What is the ambient environmental temperature when you measured the temperatures of the Surface Pros?
What is the battery life difference between the i5 and the i7? Really appreciate your reviews!!
Just picked up a refurbished 256GB i5 SP8 with Signature Keyboard for £415. A real steal.
Excellent review.. continue this path and wishing you great success ahead. I have a surface pro 5 and still good for my needs so i will keep it but my next upgrade is pro 9 or 10 intel model. personally i dont need 5G but i wish it was at same price or close with intel, as battery life and camera is better. also kb with pen should be less under 200. for me it is additional $349 in canada
Much appreciated!
Hi, how loud is the fan on the i7? Do they start frequently?
Does the hapt feedback works on the ARM version when using the slim pen2?
can you do a speaker comparison between Surface Pro 9 and MacBook and other devices?
Incredible how much better the 5G sound is
Ich finde deine Reviews sehr gut und informativ.
Vielen Dank und liebe Grüße aus Deutschland :)
The mic quality in 5G version is fantastic
agreed.
I've been a surface pro user for a long time. After the 8 it's nice to see the relocated power button.
There are alternatives, but usually they have some compromise, like not having a kickstand as with the Dell.
Also here in Europe the alternatives are sold for the American normal price, not the "constant" discounted price, so they're way more expensive.
I still would like to see an AMD powered pro, but with the laptop line going full intel again, I think it won't happen.
true, i got the surface 9 with keyboard and pen lately for €750 and couldn't be happier
im still rocking a pro 3, starting to have issues and debating the upgrade, the power button would be nice if it was on the right at the top, that way im not accidentally turning it off when i wanna change the volume
@@SoSimonSays i fee like you should wait for the pro 10, i expect nice ugrades coming especially bigger batteries and finally an oled screen
can you do a rear photo test? is it comparable to phones
At what point in the review is which WiFi version is included compared to the Surface Pro 8?
Thanks for the comparison video. Just wanted to confirm. You used i5 not i7 right? You showed i7 spec in the beginning of video but performance comparison table showed based on i5 model.
correct, I used i5 in the comparison. This can be configured up to i7.
Can we use softwares like unreal engine and blender in this device?
Hello Andrew,
The MS Surface 9 can run Linux?
Andrew very good and fair review. I love the Surface form factor. I'm on my 2nd. I had a Pro 7, and now have a Go 3 (10.5" tablet). I have found at work or home I seldom use a laptop on my lap, except to write this reply, short emails, things like that. So I like having just the display for watching You Tube, and docked between a full size keyboard and display the Surface is a great 2nd display to put things like the calculator, music player, calendar, While Windows is not a tablet OS I prefer that a Surface can be a full PC, over the touch 1st OS like iOS or Android. Lastly, buying last year's or waiting is generally a good way to low the cost to visit Surfaceland. LOL
is this surface lines suites data science job apps like tableu, power BI, etc?
I have a Surface Pro 4 . I have decided to upgrade and am trying to find the best value for my needs. Your video has been a huge help!!
I just purchased an SP9 to replace my SP7, and I'm really happy with it. I bought a certified refurbished unit directly from Microsoft, and got the educational discount on the Alcantara keyboard/pen combo. Plus, the deals are great on the SP9 because the SP10 is coming out in May.
As a consumer looking for an ARM version, the 5G version is way too expensive and I go for Lenovo Thinkpad X13s instead.
Should i buy 8 or 16g version of ram ?
They shouldn’t have removed the headphone jack
If they could have kept it then they should, but I’d take the “correct” button placement on the Pro 9 over the headphone Jack on the Pro 8 that I own. Simply because (to me) a headphone Jack is almost useless, but the button position on the Pro 8 makes it harder to use inking on the couch or standing as the buttons are on the end you can’t stand it up vertical
It has thunderbolt ports just use headphones with that
I can't believe people are still whining about the change it's so much better it's gone
Do you want the iPhone to bring back the old ipod style chargers that are slow large and ugly
@Scott B so where are the iphone thunderbolt/usb c ports?
@@papsny well I just make the basic assumption that the people buying the incompatible brands generally just want to be inconvenienced that's why the iPhone can't do copy and paste and the macbooks can't click and drag to highlight text
@@scottb9997 what a shitty example here.
Great video
I have to say that i love the beginning when you tell about the product, if you bought it or got it for free or borrow it from manifacture. It really matters at the ens i do not want to look at a review on a product from lets say a new Macbook on a fanboy-channel, you know what i'm saying? Good job there
Thank you. Really appreciate it.
This is actually a requirement for youtube reviewers if it is paid sponsorship they have to announce it so feel free to report anyone who doesn't
I must say it's ok that they sell pen separatly but why keyboard
Are the links in your description affiliate links? And that means you get paid when people buy the product?
09:35 I didn’t actually believe that the NPU/ARM version would be drastically better than the Intel one, but it actually is.
what brightness percentage is equal to 150 nits? also how many windows/tabs did you have open while testing? I'm just trying to work out what that equates to for my usage, I tend to keep the screen between 45% and 55% and I use many windows/tabs when able to
Its about 25% or so to give you an idea. I use a special program to test the battery which is a continuous web surfing test that loops thorough various website simulating what a user would theoretically do.
@@andrewmarcdavid thaks for replying! I'm using an SP7 at the moment, but 29% seems a bit darker than I'd be comfy with, I'll do more testing and see.. thank you for explaning the testing program, does the program that you use simulate single window/tab or mutliples of either?
Thunderbolt 4 is the best future proofing option.
I am seriously conflicted between the Dell 2-in-1 and the Surface. Based on price and warranty, (you sometimes need that dang gone warranty). Since these are not available at dell anymore, you can find them at the dell outlet. Lowest cost one is $987, but when you add warranty, 2 to 3 year, dell adds $400. Now the Surface 9, I can get at Costco for $1099, with 2 year warranty included. Big Difference, is the CPU and Storage, RAM is the same. Very Big Difference.
When is the Surface Pro 10 due?
what Microsoft needs to change in the (Surface Pro) are the keyboard materials. Over time, they tend to break and wear out. They need to change to a material that is as good, resistant and easy to clean as that of the tablet itself.
"and they don't even return my emails" - made me laugh. They sure don't!
I guess I am persona non grata to them
The audio in the 5g is fascinating ..much much better than the Intel version
Hello, I am in Tanzania, I would like to know the price.
Thinking to upgrade my surface pro 3. Really like the surface pros it does everything i need. Don't want to do much research on any other laptops so I think ill pull the trigger on the i7 1,599 option unless someone can tell me a good reason not to. Besides wait til it goes on sale :D
Surface Pro 9 ARM unit good in terms of voice quality where Intel version good for camera quality!
Thanks for your video review, I recently found a surface pro 8 i7 with gb of 32 and 1tb space for $1100 usd. I'm very happy with my device. I was gonna get the sp9 but it's much more expensive like you said on your video, there's no reason too buy the sp9.
How’d u find that good a deal?
Hi everyone. I was wondering if someone could please help me solve the flickering screen of my surface Pro 4, I7 16G RAM computer. Lately, my computer screen starts flickering within 10 min of start. Recently, I deleted the Intel (R) Iris (R) Graphics ( under the Display adapters) and upgraded as suggested under MS problem solving tools but did not resolve the problem. I will highly appreciate your inputs/suggestions to resolve my compter flickering screen. Thank you very much
Andrew good video as usual. Youre my go to tech guy. I’m going to buy a surface pro 9, but I want to future proof it. So how much Ram should I purchase? I purcashed the M1 Pro last year,it didn’t really provide me the work experience I was hoping for.
Get at least 16GB and 32GB if you can.
@@andrewmarcdavid Okay, thank you
Nice PC. Camera and Mics appeared good. User upgradeability is somewhat of an illusion if you can replace the SSD but can't easily find the proprietary part. Why can't Microsoft put in a standard SSD? The speed of this SSD is nothing special and putting in a gen 3 standard SSD makes more sense since it is much more readily available and allows easier upgradeability. I am sure Microsoft could have engineered this to accommodate a standard SSD. The problem with the ARM version is there is limited compatibility running some windows programs. Why pay this kind of money and handicap yourself with this limited compatibility? Port selection is very limited. For those people who like this type of unit they will be satisfied but also pay a premium price for it. Appreciate another great review. It is nice to see the different kinds of offerings these manufacturers put out. In the end everyone's tastes and needs are different.
I think using a 2230 SSD for the SP9 is exactly right. Saves weight, makes that small access panel easy to manufacture. It is the likes of Dell that irk. Dell make laptops that are designed to fit 2280 SSD's but still put in 2230's anyway to save money.
The SSD in the Surface is in no way Proprietary. It uses the M.2 2230 (22mm wide, 30mm long) standard size NVME drives. While the M.2 2280 standard is more popular, the 2230 drives are still standard, and becoming increasingly popular as devices continue to be shrunk.
Port selection for a Premium Tablet is excellent. The iPad pro has a single Thunderbolt port (although it uses next to none of the Thunderbolt fucntions) and the Samsung galaxy Tab S8 Ultra also has a single port. The Surface Pro 9 can be plugged in to power and have 2 additional USB devices plugged in at the same time.
The mic quality is a lot better on the 5g but i would go with Intel as the mic is ok but still Intel is perfect for me and I need intel as i need performance
Hi Andrew, what do you do for a living? Greetings.
This is a big part of what I do for a living among other business ventures
@@andrewmarcdavid Thanks for answering! I really appreciate your content.
Can I edit a Wix website using the SurfacePro? Wix requires a computer to edit, I cannot edit via mobile (phone or tablet).
Yes, you can edit Wix website on the Surface Pro 9
Do both the pro 9, I5 and I7 have fans or only the I7 has fan?
All intel variants have fans
Why would the Intel version not be good for gaming. I have a Pro 8 and play games on mine. X loud with no issues. Why put an ARM processor in the machines that can’t perform. While Apples ARM design is killing it
How would you compare the SP9 to the SLS w/graphics card?
Totally different devices.
The Surface Pro 9 is a thin and light premium 2-in-1 Tablet, weighing less than 1 Kg. It has a detachable keyboard and it's primary use case is as a tablet and 2-in-1.
The Surface Laptop Studio is a much heavier, bulkier laptop. It has a fixed base and clamshell laptop design. While it's screen can be brought flat, it is not easy to use as a tablet at all.
Couldn't have said it better. Thanks.
@@andrewmarcdavid but what do you think power wise? I’m leaning towards the SLS but a little disappointed it still has the 11th Gen chip
@@VGmasterX my guess it will get updated in Spring 2023 maybe to 13th Gen. SLS as configured now is more powerful than SP9
for the price, id genuinely expect the maxed out model to come with a dedicated graphics card
With the performance throttling of the Surface Pro, the 8 is actually a great buy right now
How can you say it’s not lappable, when many people including me are lapping Surface Pros for years without any issue?
It can be used on the lap, whether it is ideal is another question.
@@andrewmarcdavid Unless you have very short upper legs, the Surface Pro lappability is almost similar to regular clamshells. Is it ideal? No, but it’s more than sufficient for everyday lap use. I even play action games on the Type Cover on my lap.
@@andrewmarcdavid I actually like the adjustability of the kickstand when using it on my lap or while in bed.. traditional laptops have barely any extra give when it comes to the angle and you'll need a surface pro or other 2 in 1 to have that flexibility which is a plus and very ideal in my opinion
I got the Surface pro 8 (16GB/256GB) and I am very happy. The only thing that annoys me is power button and volume rocker on the side (coming from pro) It works well with my 3D drawing and calculation programs for selling furniture.
Audio quolity is bether on the 5g verison not much but bether.. Thansk for alot of good review of devices.
SF Pro 9 very good now
The Intel CPU is far better than SQ3. That was a complete waist to bring it to market. Intel for all its flaws (too hot for high usage or throttles out), is still good for the most part.
I'd wait a couple of months and look for a Costco bundle deal. Usually, these bundles will save you $200-300.
I guess I'm in the minority in that I find the SP reasonably comfortable on the lap.
I'm here for you, Costco fam. Just debating 8 now vs 9 later, as my work is paying.
Great video! New Subscriber.
Thanks for the sub!
This is by far one of the best video on surface pro
Thanks!
For me, at $1000 want a type cover, pen, 8 gig of ram and 256gig for a base model. It doesn't have to be the top tier type cover or pen, but I want a complete set up. 128gig in my opinion is not enough storage for a premium device even though the ssd is replaceable.
For 1k you can buy a gaming laptop with better specs than I listed at best buy and have 300+ left over for a tablet. You could buy a nice 2 in 1 laptop and have plenty left over.
I have a hard time justifying the price.
Renaisser makes a really nice bluetooth and pen combo (that's really good line quality) about $100 for the combo vs $300. you can check their website.
@@TabletPro Thanks for letting me know! I was starting to look at 3rd party keyboards and pen combos last night.
You can't use the Surface Pro without the keyboard, so why sell it separately?
You can though? Windows uses a digital keyboard on your Surface just like any regular iPad
I was thinking about this. But no headphone jack, no buy.
Thanks for the video as usual andrew
Thanks for watching!
I heard from iFixit Microsoft made this device more easy self-repairable. That scores serieus points for buying it.
Yes, much better than previous models.
so the ssd is not integrated?
Correct, it is not soldered into the motherboard and has a removable hatch to access and replace the SSD.
Really love the informative and impartial surface reviews! I'm currently on the SP6 and I was thinking on upgrade to the 9, but I'll probably just skip it or go for a discounted 8
Why? PrO9 has better specs and better battery life. I thiink pro 9 is the best purchase. Intel version
Only SP9 arm version has better battery life.
The SP9 Intel version's battery is abysmal.
@@SimonRodriguezme i mean yes, but I would have to buy a new mouse, sell my Kensington dock and it's currently too expensive to justify it tbh
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Audio and video quality is much better on the surface pro 9 with SQ3
I think Lenovo Yoga Duet i7 Gen 5 & IdeaPad Duet 5i Gen 7 are better and cost effective than Apple & Microsoft. I love Lenovo over Apple & Microsoft.
I have the surface pro 7, I use it for writing long periods of time, in this situation the screen becomes very hot, the surface pro 9 have the same problem?
As I show in the video it does a good job of staying relatively cool even under load.
@@andrewmarcdavid Thanks a lot
Did your surface pro 9 overheat when connected to an external display?
I didn't notice it overheat
@@andrewmarcdavid oh cuz I noticed it. idk how to fix it
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I would buy it but I'm hesitant about the price because it's kind of unreasonable
You can pick it up on sale right now as Surface Pro 10 will hit shelve soon.
The easy access to the SSD is an easy way to lose the flap. I don't like it.
I'm still rocking on my SP8 and from what I can gather, I don't think I'm missing out on anything by NOT upgrading to SP9.
Barely any changes, not even the look is different much.
Just like how Apple changes their iPhone appearance lol ! :D
I've got a pro 8 as well, but I'm considering upgrading solely for the better placement of the power button. I use the pro 8 in portrait all the time and since the power button is on the bottom when I do I'm constantly turning off the display accidentally. The pro 9 finally put the power button back on the side for portrait mode
@@isaacgraham3684, as far as I know, there is some plastic /rubber cover you can place on top of the power button in case you are scared of accidently turning on the decide.
Im using a full cover for the pro8 so my SP8 never turns on by accident when tossing it into the rucksack.
The price to upgrade is just too much in my opinion. I will on the other hand though wait for next year to see if they implement bigger changes into SP10.
Perhaps I will make my move then :) Disappointed that they didn't cooperate with AMD to have AMD chipset instead.
Maybe that would solve the issues with the short battery time on the Non-Arm version.
Why is that last gen got the h processor and this year they have replaced it with u processor???
Last gen did not have the h series. The Surface pro 9 intel is a nice bump in performance from last Gen as evidenced by the multi core Geekbench score.
Last gen did not have H series processor. U series will give better battery life and will be better for thermals.
@@andrewmarcdavid okay thanks andrew so which one would u recommend at this time the last gen sp8 or sp9 the intel version?
@@hamzarock5390 get the SP8 and save the money 💰
@@andrewmarcdavid Thanks andrew 😊