LGBTQ+ and Polyamory in Animals: Yes, It's Natural | Antonia Forster | TEDxBristol
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- "When I came out of the closet I was blackmailed, threatened, even bribed. But of all the shocking words that were said to me, three stood out in particular - 'It's not natural'."
The idea that certain behaviour is "unnatural" is often used to justify bigotry, especially against people who are LGBT, polyamorous, or in any way non-traditional. But is it true?
Antonia Forster is a bisexual, non-monogamous biologist that wants to set the record straight. What does "natural" mean? Can animals be gay? Are there always two sexes? Prepare to see the animal kingdom as you've never seen it before...
Antonia Forster is a science presenter, comedian, and rapper.
Antonia believes communicating science should be fun as well as facty. So stay tuned right to the end for her rap about the diverse sexual practices of the animal kingdom!
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Antonia Forster is a science presenter, comedian, and rapper. She has performed at Wilderness Festival, Kew Gardens, the Grant Museum of Zoology; featured on BBC Radio.
She performs in the Talent Factory, a Wellcome-funded group of diverse science communicators. She also lectures at science museums, zoos, schools and universities around the world; teaching scientists how to engage with the public. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
Shes a bi-oligist
Dasani Water bottle spinel!
Ayyyyyyyyyyyy
*Badum tss*
Ha Ha! You know everything she says is true. After all, she has green hair. She's an Incredible Hulka.
She is a moron
Anyone thinking the story about the penguins trying to hatch a stone and then being given an egg of their own is the cutest thing ever!? 💕 😭😭😭
Omg it issss, it's so heart warming and beautiful
Honestly I choked up when the book cover was shown...
I don't know why exactly hut it was so sweet... 😭💕
I certainly thought it was; how incredibly adorable and sweet! AND, I guarantee that the other penguins don't judge or discriminate against them! (Their little daughter is a lucky little cutie too. How amazing is this story?)
Stephanie Baker we had a book fair a while back and I unknowingly picked up this book out of random, not knowing it would change my life. And yes, the story is quite adorable
meee
The most annoying thing is that the people who need to hear this are the people who don't want to.
I listened
She was amazing. Her rhymes were on point. I never heard of some of these species before. Thank you highlighting our natural world as more diverse than we can imagine!
Two words: Mind blown. This talk was amazing
SkyLeoHeart two words utter shite
Propaganda. Pure and simple.
@@heydude7568 Why? Because since you watch you should be able to tell why if not then keep your opinion to yourself
@@bodbn How so? Because so far you have not said or showed anything even resembling a coherent argument. For example I can just as easily say that your comment was nothing but pure anti-science propaganda and thanks to the video my words hold more weight than yours.
SkyLeoHeart they hold weight if youre a post modernist who has no handle on what truth means, what sound science means and what cohesive society means, youre probably wearing a mask too in all of your 'wokeness' smh smh
when she said this is natural I’m literally crying. And the rap is so lit!!!
Awww agreed!! Never felt so validated by a CZcams video. 💛
Person People Hey, remember when she said, “Cyanide is also natural. That’s not good for you.”? Or when she pointed out that wearing clothes isn’t natural, but it’s something you do anyways? The point isn’t that something is inherently good for you because it’s natural. It’s that “natural” shouldn’t be your justification for deeming something right or wrong. But people using “it’s unnatural” as an argument against LGBTQ+ lifestyles is not only pointless, but flat-out wrong.
Person People I don’t mean to be rude but did you even read my comment? I literally said, “the point isn’t that something is inherently good for you because it’s natural”.
I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear enough but I don’t understand how you got that from my comment.
Person People Also I would just like to clarify that the comment you responded to was deleted before I got here, so I apologize if your comment was taken out of context.
@Person People Yeah we got that but the it's natural argument is always used in support of this & never covers the part that deems alot of what's natural as totally effed up so it hypocrisy in just covering & sourcing out the part that supports 1s point.
Wow, I knew that LGBTQ+ was a thing in the animal kingdom, but I had no idea it was this complex! Great talk!
Michelle chan my grandfather sent me photos of animals with their parents but jokes on him one of them was of 2 female lions babying their cub
Isn’t there like over like 300 words in lgbt now like lgbtqqts or something like that
@Chabbaquq Yahudah Yahisreal mind if you share what that is ?
Hahaha, she is a lie, and you're a MORON for believing her..No animal is made in the image of God what NATURAL for them is unnatural for us because we are humans made in the image of God...See if can do the math and stop accepting foolishness as the truth...😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@@armymanssg508 do you even know what the word natural mean ? Or do you think natural is just something popular or more common ? If you do think that way , you're the moron here
This is one of the most interesting and easily the most well delivered TED talk ive seen thus far. I hope her family who initially doubted her see this and are able to open their minds a bit more. They should be proud.
They will ridicule her more for comparing herself to animals that aren't even self aware....
That's your own opinion, not everyone is like that.
So would it be interesting if she was talking about peadophelia because it’s the same category
@@vladimirgusar4468 iuycmvgggjunooppovtf
@PulsarGTi-R That's incorrect. There is no evidence to support that theory at all. Perhaps Dolphins may be self aware due to their large amount of wrinkles in their brain. Every other species is not self aware, at least with the information that we have today. Instead of jumping to conclusions, I recommend you do some research.
I need you as my biology teacher, you're amazing
Straight up
with a mind like that, it's hard to believe you are single
ikr shes so adorable
most human beings don't want to date someone they'll have to share with someone else.
@@camilledabert Sharing is caring!
@@beceadenisageorgiana5998 STD's? Solvable With Protection.. Jealousy/Resent? Every poly partner consents and accepts each person in that dynamic while jealousy can happen its never long term
Jason Barrett 😁
i have never seen anyone more well spoken than her on this topic. wow she's truly amazing and is representing well.
@Vlad the Inhaler this is a TED talk where does the comparison fit??
Wow. Polyamory in the animal kingdom. I've never heard about this from school. This was a great talk.
@Vlad the Inhaler I really hadnt heard if it then
your school didn't teach you how deers, sheep, monkeys are polygamists?
Where can I get your rap ? TAKE MY MONEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
First of all love the comment it made me burst out laughing second of all AGREEEED
i fell in love with her when she said marriage is unnatural!
Marriage was created by God.
@@tlcforeveryoung3821 lol,
Lets say this is the case, LGBT people are created by God too :)
LGBT is a political organization. Claiming that the LGBT are created by God is equivalent to claiming that the Labour Party is created by God.
@@binghamguevara6814 "political organisation"
PUAHAHAH ,ok boomer xD
@@tlcforeveryoung3821 lgbt people NOT the lgbt organization know the differences
If a "norm" is stopping you from being who you truly are,it is unacceptble. Best wishes from Sweden!
Say it to Ted Bundy or some P3D0sexual
The rap was amazing! This is why i love biology!
really ?
Loved the talk.
Loved the rap.
A few months ago I reached out to this wonderful lady on her instagram handle, telling her how she has been an inspiration to me, and how cool everything about her is (lowkey fan girled) and to my surprise, she replied with the humbleness and excitement of an old friend.
What’s her handle
Yes
People tend to point out animals who stay together for raising kids, like penguins or some other birds to argue her points. But all this just adds to the diversity of life out there....Some animals stay together for life, some don't. You have all kinds of species out there. I know birds that make nests for their babies and together they take care of their babies and together they stay. But I also know birds who makes eggs "out-of-wedlock" and then "drop" them off in secret in somebody else's nest (just like a spy) and that's how they survive and procreate. Both birds are natural! Both birds evolved on this earth. And that only proves that natural can be ANYTHING. We, humans, cannot decide for nature what natural can or cannot be. We can only observe, study, and wonder at the beauty of diversity of it all. Also, the whole idea of natural as being good vs unnatural as being bad is flawed, I agree with that 100%! There are so many unnatural things that I approve of and do myself: like brushing my teeth is extremely unnatural, but I do that and most people approve of that! Going to a doctor and getting vaccines is extremely unnatural, so is using condoms for birth control! Washing hands with soap and taking a shower with sanitized water is way too unnatural! It is a whole lot more natural to live like a homeless man because a homeless human being does not brush his teeth everyday nor take shower nor grooms his/her hair. A homeless is closer to being natural for sure, but nobody aspires to be like that...! Also, it is so natural to fart out loud , but we tend not to do that in front of other people. It is so natural to poop in the spot right where you are at the moment, but we hold it until we get to the bathroom and no animal does this - how natural is that???? SO true ....so true....
Well.... I dont agree with the part that we cant decide what is natural or not. Only observe or study. Eventually, we will probably be able to.
Vodka lina it's sad to say but that is the truth
Yes yes YES you speak my mind
Yah..that woodpecker hatches ...1st normally...and kills the unborn chicks of the victims and tosses the evidence out.... ...great example actually.....
confirmation bias 101
One of my favourite TED talks of all time. Brilliant!!! And if my school teachers were cool enough to rap information, I might have done a lot better academically.
In under 20 minutes I've experienced tears, bewilderment, laughter, and above all gratitude. Thank you for your courage and presentation. Namaste 🙏💖
AC's (air conditioners) aren't natural but almost everyone uses it...
@Aluzky people think that natural thing is created by nature and unnatural thing is created by human
@@babeytea it call doing a comparison
@@babeytea then make a better one then
@Aluzky i use the same grammar as you did on your previous reply
@Aluzky people who call homosexuality " unnatural " would beg to differ
Man I wish I knew the word polyamory 10 years ago. I just thought something was wrong with me!
Omg same!!!!! How did you navigate your life?
No Jordan. 10 years ago you were younger and hornier, therefore attracted to several pretty girls. That’s all
@@daviddonaire9392 did you not watch the video
@@georgianaharris4865 yes I found it fascinating. But not everyone is like that. Jordan was just trying to smash back in a day
@@daviddonaire9392 how do you know?
i know you are probably not going to read this Antonia, but thank you so much for giving this talk it's life changing!!!!!
Its incredible to see a queer biologist finally say what I've thought for most of my life and have had criticised because its queer. It's like a breath of fresh air and a reminder of a good and truthful world. And I LOVE her hair! 💗💕❤
OMG. This is, by far, the BEST THING I've ever come across on CZcams! I'm awed, inspired, moved, proud, more open-minded, and GRATEFUL!
Okay but that rap was awesome I'm dead
16:42 we need more of that
Thank you for not hiding and doing this talk you're very brave
This is just an amazing talk in general, not to mention all the wonderful information and the sick track at the end 😂
adding this to my 'When the time comes' playlist-
Great talk. I have noticed it’s usually city people who go on about being unnatural. Anyone who has worked with animals knows better.
ew
Yesss
I suddenly fell in love with biology again
I celebrate being honest, being authentic, being yourself, being sincere - that is the only way to be happy and that's the only way to be natural(real)! And I see all that applies to you! Bravo!
I agree, very comfortable in her own skin...maybe these negative comments come from jealousy of that.
Thanks 😘☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
The most relevant thing I've ever seen on CZcams.
She ATE AND LEFT NO CRUMBS everything was so well spoken and when she said she was gonna rap i got scared BUT SHE SLAYED IT AN DIT WAS GIVING CARDI B OVER HERE!!!!!!
This is absolutely wonderful and I love the rap as well.
This reminds me of the old bumper sticker: "Eat sh!t. Billions of flies can't be wrong."
Of course, once the amusement wears off the "logic" here is pathetic in the extreme.
Congratulations you completely missed the point
watching this in 2023 and it still one of the best ted talks ever
Came here for the talk, stayed for the rap.
We need these lessons to help us peel away the coats of lies and deceptions that we were taught.
yay!!!! I love it! yes nature is more diverse and far more complicatedly constructed than most things we humans can think up...
And what we witness arnd is human built biased world
I like that she bought back the tree words thing at the end. Really tied it all together.
the penguin story made me tear up....
Love the rap, I hope she releases an album
Okay.... where can I download that rap?? ♡
I mean that was a whole bop right there
Please team up with Lin-Manuel Miranda and make a legendary rap musical with a gender-bending cast.
I salute your courage.
I support the lgbtq!💗💛💙
LGB...yes. after that....no.
Guillermo Diaz lmao what? Can you just shut you mouth? It’s lgbtq+ whether you like it or not.
Sorry but feelings are not important when it comes to the truth.
And the fact that the LGBT + INFINITY
Guillermo Diaz
Why don’t you support it? I mean, it’s your opinion, but I’d just like to know why.
The battle between human suffering and needle sharp knowledge and intellect. The latter coupled with courage to fight misconceptions - a tremendous intellectual walkover.
I'm so sorry you lost family because you refused to hide yourself. Bless you!! I, also, have lost family. Mine is because I'm a Democrat in Texas. I understand your deep grief and possible resentment. Of course, homosexuality in our closest relatives, the bonobos. They are not ancestors. Loved the speech.
Lots of bigotry in the comments. It's a shame.
I wish people would just open up their minds and strive to educate themselves on topics they know absolutely nothing about.
As a human being, I feel that it is necessary (an obligation, if you will) for me to try and understand things I have no prior knowledge about or experience with. That's the reason I am here, watching this video right now. It's just irritating when people refuse to enlighten themselves because apparently wisdom is terrifying.
Anyways, this was a beautiful TED Talk and I'm glad I watched it. :)
Two things we can't do....fly or change our gender. No matter how much we use planes or surgery, we can't do it on our own.
@Sammy Ymmas thannnnnnk You!
The only bigots are those who will not accept that someone disagrees with them. i think you one of them, mate! Talking about knowing that you don't have.
Kind of like you are, by assuming that most of us don't educate, and research these topics ourselves. News flash, it just so happens that I do, and it is the very reason why I know for certain, this absurd TEDTalk is completely false!
You are confusing feelings, with facts.
Which is primarily the reason your comment sounds very similar to all the other very agreeable SJW's.
@@noemyv1208 I realize you can't put links in most comment sections, but would you mind sharing some keywords I could google myself? Where did you find your info?
I love this! Thank you!
What I am confused about is that when i argue with people who say it's not natural an then I explain how it is, they say "well not everything that is natural is desirable" which is something that u stated as well. My point is, you proved that it's natural but also that not everything that is natural is desirable and that is a bit contradictory. A lot of people use this exact argument to disprove me.
Love this! Such a good speaker
I thought she was gonna touch on polyamory in animals too but loved this talk
true. proof polygamy and polyandry should be legal
Lol, I happend to have my Bass when she started to rap, so I played along xD
epic style
The only thing not natural about her is her hair.
@@maryannlevy8217 highly chlorinated waters aren't natural ~.~
Or at least I think so.
Everything exists in nature
And her clothes and shoes, like she said
It is. Shes an 👽
Interesting parallel to humans: Two penguins trying to hatch a stone
Interesting parallel to humans. Queer people raise the children heteros abandon
What a great ted talk! So enjoyed this. Thank you for speaking 💛
First time watching this ... Amazing!! I wish she'd been given more time, because she could have supported her points even more! Love it!
I’m sick of appeal to nature arguments that people try to make against certain behaviours- we are humans and either everything we do is an extension of nature or it doesn’t matter. Many good things we do are unnatural and many bad things are natural, it’s a lazy argument for why you shouldn’t do anything
Exactly. So let LGBT+ people exist in peace, it doesn't matter if it's natural or not. I love the relativism, how "it's not natural" becomes an invalid argument as soon as it's used against bigots.
What a great talk. The rap at the end was an inspiring summation. Good for her!
This is such an awesome talk. Thank you so much!
Damn that rap was amazing
First time ive heard the audience laugh and i love this talk along with the rap
This is excellent, so refreshing. I feel so relieved to hear a like-minded person. And this was also very informative and educational. I learnt a lot. Thank you so much Antonia Forster and TEDx.🙂😍
She had me at phallic 🦄... I'm in love 😍😍😍
I love this talk 👏👏👏💖💖💖
I love her! She's amazing! Great speech!
She is just wonderful! Ethology is a marvellous field of knowledge!
Beautifully stated
The rap was best!!!
Incredible information. What is the name of the mushroom?
okay i'm so glad i chose bio in my streaming year.
She's so adorable and brilliant. This is the best TED Talk ever!!!
Okay so I see what she's saying but just because a fungus has multiple genders does not mean we biologically do? I think this has confused me more then enlightened me. Did I miss something?
One of the best TED Talks I've heard.
That was actually extremely interesting. I liked learning about this, thanks!
Amen sister, way to be true to self.
We humans are too smart for our own good. Great video by the way and stay strong.
Damn, just the video I've been needing for a long time. This was so cool, uplifting, educational, and DAMN that rap was great ;)
bees have no father? ah you mean no 'living' father.
This is amazing, Thank you
This is my favorite video on the internet
This is beautiful. Thanks for the in depth explanation. Great complex rap 🧜🏽👌🏿❤️ Worth every second.
So inspiring. Thanks for sharing Antonia Forster
Amazing. Really really well done, and educators like Antonia are a huge part of the reason I love biology!
@ and you are ?
rayzur9 Except everything she said was based in scientific fact? Just because you don’t like non-heteronormative relationships doesn’t mean she’s wrong. I’m more inclined to believe an actually biologist than a hate filled bigot on the internet.
This is absolutely the best TED talk I have ever watched!!!😍😊😊
❤💛💚💙💜
I would like to add spanish subtitle to this. how can i do it?
You can sign up as a volunteer translator on the website of TED.
Is anyone else blown away and completely obsessed with this woman after that rap? 😂 awesome talk i think its my favorite so far
Amazing talk, really changed my point of view.
Morality is imo the most important thing we face in life. Marriage characterised by truth, trust, love and sacrifice is incredibly moral and creates the best overall conditions for children to become moral people themselves.
This is one of my favorite videos on CZcams.
That freestyle was awesome!:)
Antonia Forster has called out our self-limiting cultural conditioning for what it is "unnatural".
She shares her insights in such a brilliant and fun loving way you can't help but agree. I think we are going to see her message a lot more in 2018 everywhere.
I always love these parallels with the animal kingdom. Surely, there is a lot to be learned from there. But chimps, for example, torture and kill each other for fun. Does this mean that we should suddenly make that morally acceptable?
Yes, there is polyamory in animals. Does this mean that we should suddenly make that morally acceptable?
The question is -- why is it plausible to give different answers to the 2 above questions?
What a cringey question the title asks. Harem-Building is only """normal""" in primitive societys, duh.
She stated early on that "natural" does not inherently mean "good".
Her main argument, however, is that many things people might consider unnatural is actually quite natural.
Polyamory and homosexuality aren't inherently harmful or damaging. Murder is.
Does that explain it well enough?
@@carisoul2180 and homosexuality isn't. What's your point
I thought biology was boring but now I realize that it’s much more interesting than I gave it credit
Never chase the bugs.
Loved this