UFC Debut: Jorge Masvidal vs Tim Means | Free Fight
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Man Means may be one of the most underrated and underappreciated fighters of all time, the man’s striking is fun asf
He lost once again he is a journey man never a top 5 fighter
Yessir
I always say this
he’s a fun journeyman to watch though.
@@redhammer1917 Who said he was a top 5 fighter?
*Masvidal* a true veteran of the sport
He's a high school football coach here in NM.
No he’s not, hasn’t done anything for quite some time, pulled out of the Edwards fight like a bitch, he talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk anymore
I’m not saying he’s not changed, everyone has. Clearly whatever he is doing now is working for him, whereas before, it wasn’t. UFC isn’t about the integrity of MMA, it’s about becoming the biggest star with the highest drawing power. Unfortunately these days, us fickle fans buy into it rather than supporting the best fighters. It’s no secret that the UFC’s best fighters don’t earn what some other star names do.
@@vinnieomahoney6359 as for ducking Edwards, you’re right. It does nothing for the Masvidal brand. High chance he loses that fight. Then what? Guys playing smart with the few remaining years he has left in the fight game. Guy has fought so many fights already at the point of this fight and he was only 27!!! These people all need paid.
I’d duck Leon too bro. It’s about working smarter, not harder.
@@dixoncidermouth Exactly, he changed his persona in a way that brought him more money and fame and that's exactly what he should have done. No less respect for him.
Two monsters right here, no doubt about it. One hell of a tough debut for Masvidal!
Absolutely. Great matchmaking with this one
It's the same thing they did with Justin gaichi when they put them up against Michael Johnson.
@@jaysmith2151 Justin had a career before UFC he was a champion in other org
@@blase9786 True BUT you can't tell me Jorge doesn't look just like Sergio Pettis back in this fight. LoL
@@jaysmith2151 Give them a stiff test for their debut, a baptism by fire. Gaethje Johnson was a badass fight 👍
Masvidal never had a easy take, true warrior 💯💯
He literally fought Ben askren😂😂😂
Masvidal's swagger has been around since day one.
Journeyman street judas masvidal
@@jaybird259 His chin has been GOATED since day one.
Crafty striker and confident in the pocket.
Like....since Christ was a baby.
@@sallgoodman2323 You drank the cool aid.
12:53 Jorge with the Khabib leg squeeze move.
Huge fan of the Dirty Bird. Dude has slick ass striking.
Always support my boy Masvidal he's a real OG of the game deserves all the respect 🙏
Means is also a OG of the game. If you are a casual you wouldn’t know that though
@@Windbend3r
Found the casual
@@Windbend3r your name screams “I’m a casual”
he lost this fight tho
@@mikehunt7586 he didn’t say he won
I cant believe Tim Means fought at 155
why
Dude even looks big at 170!!
@@alypha737 cause he looks like a weight bully at 170
"Win or lose, this journey is still the best thing that ever happened to me. - Gamebred
Journeyman
Nah he elite
Yes, if you like brain damage
Masvidals killer instinct has increased so much from here. He’s literally looking for a finish in every exchange now.
Yes like he did against usman
@@hamidjackson8303 casual😼
When Usman gets caught like Jones did with his designer gear. I bet you so many people are going to jump bandwagon.
everyone in the ufc is on gear, nobody cares
@@hamidjackson8303 USMAN DESTROYED MASVIDAL FO OL
I don’t care what anyone says, Tim means is a real legend. He’s fought the who’s who and he beat Mike Godamn Perry. He’s the real 🐐
And still going pretty strong OG
always in banger fights too.. him and alvey and court mcgre are those guys you just keep around regardless of record etc
Lol
And The Dirty Bird is my favorite nickname of all time.
Make sure you wish Mike Perry a happy black history moth this year
A masvidal fight I don't really remember cool I'm in. .good way to start the year off . Our boy jorge will be back this year with a knockout win.. woah 6 takedowns for masvidal. How times have changed
Edwards will put him to sleep
@@vinnieomahoney6359 Edward's fights like chiken
@@poopyanalbumhole I mean the fact he has been in top 5 for 2 years+, your statement is trash
@@vinnieomahoney6359 Edwards can only put fans into sleep..and he also got almost slept by Diaz
@@vinnieomahoney6359 “I believe I deserve a title shot next. That’s 9 fights in a row.”
Pray 2022 is lit for you guys
I can't believe I missed watching Tim Means in his prime, he's so impressive
The dirty bird! he was suspended for a time due to a failed drug test and won his return fight back back in 2016.
he’s still doing good today tho on a three fight win streak right now
He should’ve won
I went school with tim means. Played basket ball with him
Masvidal has some of the best composure in the octagon
yeah fr
I watched Jorge on strike force man, he deserves everything he gets.
he didnt win this fight tho
@@mikehunt7586 hes spent his entire juvenile and adult life fighting every man willing to step in with him.. when you have that mentality , your gonna lose some ...
@@mikehunt7586 last time I checked it was 29-28 Jorge.
@@Nighthawkinc yeah. Means got robbed.
@@no.step.on.snek.2423 cool story bro.
It's sad to see people start clowing a fighter once he gets finished when they all were on his hype train before he lost
I still got huge respect for jorge, great fighter
I can't stand it....
Casuals man
Real fans stick by Jorge it’s like when your favorite band produces a song and everyone loves them but the song gets plaid out and eventually everyone hates on that band but then a good amount of years goes by and you play that song and everyone is happy to hear it that’s what it’s like being a hardcore fan
I don't know why I haven't ever heard of Means but I like what I saw. Stays busy coming forward with good power with his hands. Seems to have some tricks up his sleeve, elbows. Underrated.
Tim "the Dirty Bird" Means........dude is a legend as far as I'm concerned.
I'm a fan of Tim Means' style mixing up punches and elbows from all kinds of angles.
What a Tough debut for any fighter. I honestly might’ve given that to Means. So close.
It wasn't that close. You can't win getting taken down that much and staying on your back.
@@kayleeensley3102 the damage should have factored in way more than the takedowns in this fight imo, means did wayyyyyy more damage slicing masvidal up, but I do agree it was a close fight I too would have probably given that to means though
Means clearly won !!! He reversed that position at the end of the fight with great skill & had that fight gone on another minute , he would have knocked dude out with a ground & pound !! Plus the damage he inflicted was much greater !!
The judges got this one wrong !!
This fight is the perfect example of NOT leaving it to the judges !!!
@Brad Carman Masvidal made Tim means miss most of the fight on the feet. They even said in the 3rd Masvidal was up +6 Significant strikes on Means. Jorge expended a lot of energy going after those takedowns, & he’s never really fought this style much in the past.
I think that masvidal won but it should have been at-least a majority decision or something, like it was a very close fight
UFC giving us a gift!...Everybody wanted to see this!
Casuals really think Jorge has 0 ground game took down Tim 6 times here and subbed micheal chiesa smh
Yup.. but like Marty said there are levels to the CEO of EPO he not only beat him with grappling in the 1st fight but beat masvidal at his own game. 🐐 🦉
@@kingsmokes733 nobody cares about marty tbh
@@ST-jy9no everybody cares about Marty now more than Jorge
@@ST-jy9no uh what? Hes currently the most exciting champion behind francis wtf you talking about
@@ST-jy9no Nah just you bro
I wonder why Masvidal abandoned his wrestling. Seems to be pretty good at it.
Perhaps he's not too big a fan of it. After all he has regarded as 'crotch-sniffing' in the past, he prefers to stand and bang with his opponents.
HE REALIZED OTHERS LIKE USMAN WERE BETTER AT IT
2 of my favorite fighters, this is a treat, never knew they fought
Means did more damage, Jorge had more control but never passed guard and ate a lot of elbows
yeah but jorge won 2/3, i wish the fight was 1 big round but it isnt...
Kimbo must be proud up there Watching his prodigy come this far
He's probably fucking amazed at that bull shit.
He wasn’t his prodigy smh Jorge beat up kimbos prodigy Ray Jorge and kimbo only knew each other from the same gym they trained at an kimbo just asked him if he wanted to street fighter
Two legends and OG's of the game.
Must have a 100 pro fights between them. Again, OG's and real fighters.
2 OG’s right here. Love this fight
Is this Jorge shooting for the legs Lmao fighters that chat sh!t about them selfs kills me every time
he used to be a good wrestler, not even great Dagestan grapplers like Rustam Khabilov could take Masvidal down but his wrestling game went away later in his career
@@bobchimpson7703 mfs STILL can’t take masvidal down and hold him down, his wrestling hasn’t went anywhere
@@johngotti527 💯
He was serving Jorge a 3pc and a soda on the feet💯‼️
Jorge lost the battle but won the war in this one. Must respect for both guys. Glad to know that Means is still in flight.
Tf you on about Jorge won
Jorge ‘The Eagle’ Masvidalov 12:54
LMAO JUST NOTICED IT
🦅
Tim won those rounds off his back. He did way more damage from his guard which is badass.
Control is the most important thing in MMA.
F****** Randy couture won every single belt by holding people up against the cage.
@@rhumandlove393 how are people still so wrong about this. Damage trumps all considerations. Control only factors in if damage is comparable between fighters. New judging criteria has been in use for near 5 years now.
This was a great fight. Thank you
My favorite MMA fight period
Ótima luta
Tim Means still out here winning fights. Disrespectful ASF that this video ignored him.
"Ignored him"?
@@declamatory Yes, they cut his intro by Bruce.
@@b1p_mac275 No shit, this video is about Masvidal's debut.
Tim is so underrated
Look at masvidal going for the takedown!
This is the only time Masvidal gets a close decision, and he probably lost the fight 🤔
what about the al iaquinta fight?
@@kenjic6083 He got robbed in that fight... probably the worst decision I can remember in ufc
Yep I'm a masvidal fan and thought the exact same thing. He should have won many decisions which didn't go his way but this shouldn't be one of them he sustained too much damage even though he was on top
He did not lose this fucking fight wtf are you smoking? Did you even watch the damn thing?
Damage? That cut? Did he drop Mas? Did he hurt him? He was on his back for two round's throwing shot's from the bottom while taking shots from the top. That's a win to you someone on their back for two out of three rounds?
And so, the JOURNEY of the MAN begun
So Journeyman?
Y'all dont even know the definition of journeyman lol.
@@SyringeSem lmao Jorge is literally the definition of a journeyman…
@@GlRTHBR00KS In what sense of the word? In combat sports specifically boxing, a guy ranked as high as he has been or having fought for a title, isnt a journeyman. You can make up definitions if you want to. I use boxing because thats where the term originates.
@@GlRTHBR00KS Lmao you literally dont even know the definition.
First fight I've ever seen from Masvidal was his fight against Rustam Khabilov. Watched it live on TV as it happened and what a hell of a fight that was.
I wonder where is khabilov now, the man was such a beast, i believe he beat henderson too
@@raihanbaid367 no Ben beat him rear naked choke rd 2 and yea I remember when Jorge fought Khabilov it was on the ufc fight for the troops Tim Kennedy vs reafeal natal
Means was piecing Masvidal up on the feet.
Hes a very underrated striker
Jorge doesn't like longer fighters and south paws. Tim was both
I would also say he was cutting him up with those elbows from the bottom
@@hulkman245 chiesa is a long fighter and southpaw and masvidal did fine against him
@@mattreid8292 Jorge got dropped in the first round and got tagged multiple times with Chiesa's left hand even though his striking is shit compared to that of Jorge
Dirty Bird is one of my all time favorites
back and forth Fantastic Fight! even better example of sportsmanship
Masvidal fighting stance hasn't changed much over the year's tim means still tough smash perry in his leaving party at UFC..
Who asked you? You think you are some kind of mma analyst or what?
@@iz2043 It's a good observation. For an almost Muay Thai straight up stance it's been effective in the UFC for years now.
Means did so good
Perfect
Them elbows from Means were viscous 🤣
It's weird. I thought Means did all the damage in that fight.
Means was fighting inside so he could throw more elbows, freakin sweet. It would be awesome to see him fight someone like Wonderboy, Hooker, Till, or a Diaz brother.
Am i the only one who thinks this decision is questionable? Genuinely thought i just saw masvidal lose
Yeah even me too. Even though he got the takedowns, Tim did more damage from the bottom. Masvidal could hardly get his elbows through Means defence.
Never leave something in the something of the something.
More than questionable, I thought it was fairly obvious that means deserve that win.
@@vishalwhite yeah exactly, joe even mentioned that he hoped the judges saw through the takedown and top position from masvidal to see who was ironically coming out "on top" of those exchanges
Fight was close and could have gone either way, no shit
I love Tim Means. Dude has always been underrated. Prime Masvidal was so slick too.
Masvidal to wrestlers: Dudes that are made of "let me hug another man", I don't compete like that, I don't get my money like that. Usman is not built like a man, that's why he had to hug me.
Never saw masvidal laying on his opponent. He was throwing damaging shots. Pipe down kid.
Very good both
Masvidal was not acting as childish as he is today. It is crazy how money and fame can mess up someone's mind.
Lol
Why should he care about bitchmade fairweather fans who turn on a dime?
Childish how?
one great fight .thatsthe way fights outa be both men giving all they had.both men are winners in this fight as far as im concernd
I wish this was a 5 rounder. Those elbow strikes!
The way masvidal took means down thooo
King of Miami baby
Gotta respect the dirty bird but masvidal definitely won that. Too many successful takedowns
Great fight
Young Masvidal
Bro this crazy
30-27 Tim won that fight, bet him on the feet for sure, and worked off his back to inflict way more damage than Masvidal did from the top.
Worked off his back in the LAST round, with Masvidal still putting in work on TOP, second round Masvidal took it no doubt about that, first round was a good back and forth fight with Masvidal taking the lead bc of the TD's.
Didn't you just watch the fight bro? 😂, i Thank god that you ain't no judge.
@@mattreid8292 even in the new scoring tim wouldn’t have won!!!!!!!!!!! This was in 2013 lmfao, tf you niggas acting like this shit happened in 2001 for?
I'm shocked people think that means won, its close but Jorge was composed the whole fight, got the tds and had control time.
It's MMA. If you get a takedown and some control, you win the round. Damage doesn't really matter unless both fighters decide to stand up
Been impressed w Means ever since I witnessed him systematically dismantle Mike Perry
Two ogs straight up
I don't know why but I really like jorge masvidal as a fighter and person I admire him 🥰🥰
1:51 you can really see the size difference between masvidal and his opponent. Then I start laughing when I think about that confrontation between him and Michael Bisping, the man is twice his size
He would have fought Bisping too
Means went crazy. I’m a fan
good job my boy
Masvidal is a beast
1st time i have seen Jorge winning a close decision
Wow, maximum disrespect towards Means here. Didn't even show his introduction. Dude's a legend
Crazy to see Jorge be a solid wrestler
Goes to show how much the sport has progressed
Means hit him with like 30 elbows to the top of the head lol
Tim seriously came to win he looked great!
What a stupid decision, just because someone takes someone down shouldn't be even a judging point. Tim Means won that.
Lol ur crazy. If the dude took you down and controlled you that def counts for something. One takedown on the street and ur dead lol.
@@ayushkapoor2048 this man isn’t crazy he’s insane talking about takedown shouldn’t be a judging point if that’s the case he should go watch boxing or kick boxing
Perfect example in this fight that you never want to leave the fight decision up to the judges !!!
I disagree with this decision.
Great fight & those men are a good match up but , I 👀 the winner lose in this fight because it was left to the judges which clearly made the wrong decision !!!
Jorge did all the work getting on top of Means and Means did all the damaging blows.
very good fight
although tim looked as if he stayed in tune to fight throughout th duration... i'd like to say that iv'e never seen jorge's grappling offense this up to par so to speak, but an unexpected good kimura attempm from the opponent who was originally being grappled with... was an entertaining turn of events.
Wow how did these two legends make that lightweight cut good thing they moved to WW.
Tim means is very diverse Martial Artist's but gamebred really bring the fight to him
I hope you guys don't ever make us wait another month again for some fights. Geesh
Jorge does so well against fighters a lot bigger than him, moving to welter weight was the best thing he did!
I do think he would have had his title if he stayed in the lightweight division tho.
Bruce buffet looks exactly the same that’s wild
Mean man! Mean man!
Yo if masvidal would work on take downs he could be a MONSTER of the khabib cut.
“This man is a boxer” good match for jake
🔥
Right decision
This work is like Anderson Silva work . Really man you will be strong . You just need fitness . I'm from egypt .
Nowadays that fight would be a 1st round KO/TKO...you know who.
точикистон ба пеш
Maszi with the dub
Only casuals disrespect Jorge, fake fans💯
Apparently the judges and I were watching two different fights... Masvidal got spanked. I don't care what position you're in if you're getting your butt kicked it doesn't matter.
Tim seemed to agree with it
Spanked? What did Mean's do to win? He was on his back for two round's. Did he drop Mas? Did he hurt him? Elbow''s from the bottom while he took elbows from the top. That's him winning? That's why people have opinion's because they can't score a fight .
@@kayleeensley3102 the thing is he didn't really take elbows from the top, certainly not as many as he dished out from the bottom. Very little got through his defense, most everything was blocked
Damn bro, masvidal can bang straight up
The Dirty Bird was fun to watch