Snubs are just as accurate as the longer barrels, but can be harder to aim because of the short sight radius, and the lighter weight doesn't help to hold them steady. They are what they are. They can be used by anyone, but they require more practice than a full size handgun, but they all require practice.
I bought a new snubby, a Nickel S&W 38spl in 1980 because my hand just fit that pistol, it was such a beautiful work of art and craftsmanship. First time out we walked out about 70 long steps with a paper plate and walked back....fired 3 rounds and when I walked back to check that plate, 2 rounds on the plate and a nick on the edge. My buddy was shocked, and I just looked at him, my mouth wide open. We're both in our 70's now and he still tells that story.
@@glennsosinske3260 No, it's an older model 36, I didn't think I'd like the shiney nickel but once I held that pistol and got a good look, it was love at first sight, ha. I did buy a 637 later around 2003 think, it came with a factory installed crimson trace and could shoot +P ammo, I couldn't believe how light it was. It's a really good shooter too, even past 50yrd.
@@glennsosinske3260 The Model 637 is 5 shot variation of the Model 37 Chiefs Special Airweight. Stainless barrel with ultra light j type aluminum frame.
@@kevinpurcell7452 I believe it was an airweight model da/sa. I would buy my brother boxes of 38spl+p to get his trigger time up. Pretty snappy shooting, but tons of fun.
Snub nose revolvers are more accurate than most people can shoot. The issues (as others have said) are: 1. Short sight radius 2. Fixed sights are harder to pickup (since they are milled as part of the firearm). 3. Heavy trigger pull in DA. That said I have a 642 for dedicated pocket carry and it has served me well.
If the bullet is stabilized, there is no reason a short barrel can't be accurate. The short sight radius can make it difficult to be precise, though. Nice work.
yeah, most of the time it is the owner and not the gun or the round that is inaccurate. weirdly, those people find it hard to say "I am not that good and I should train more." yet will shout "Educate yourself!" loud at everyone.
@@mikeoxlong339 Frank Cannon was a private eye in a 70s tv show. William Conrad was the actor. This has been a Quinn Martin production. (Trust me, anyone who saw these shows knows this statement) Coincidently, Barnaby Jones was a sort of spin off from Cannon.
My first gun i ever bought for myself was a Charter arms detective special. The revolver was more accurate than i was anyyway, worked for several years before i could afford a nicer upgrade.
true it will be more accurate than a tilting barrel autoloader, but does that minute level of inaccuracy even mean anything with how short the effective range is? Long range shooters comparing bolt action rifles to autoloaders dont seem to think so.
@@weakest17yroldIn handguns, its mechanical accuracy doesnt matter for 99.9999% of applications. No human is going to be more accurate than the pistol itself. Mechanical accuracy of most, if not all autoloading pistols is around 5-6 MOA. I dont think any man on Earth is going to get 5 inch groups in any conditions or setup out of a tuned revolver, let alone a glock or a sig. You will never be more accurate than the handgun itself BUT…… There is a caveat. Sight radius is definitely a thing, and snub nose revolvers have horrible sight radiuses. So objectively speaking, since the sights are so close together, you will be much, much less precise with it than a longer barreled handgun. Thats just the laws of physics and how light works. Its not that the snub nose itself is inaccurate, but the sights they have are just physically impossible to have be as accurate as a longer gun. So yes, they kind of are inaccurate, which is why they take much longer to line up a shot with
The gun is not inaccurate. The gun is abaurdly difficult to use. You only get a small increase in accuracy by increasing barrel length and velocity. A 4" barrel has 1.5x the velocity on a .357 as a 2" barrel with the same load. That was pretty mind blowing to find out.
For 35 years, my dad qualified with the Smith and Wesson model 36. Every year, different range officers, he was told that: “You can qualify with that!” “Are you telling me, that I won’t be allowed to qualify with it?” “No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying, is that pistol isn’t accurate enough to qualify with. It’s just a snub-nosed 36!” And every year, they’d want to buy it from him after he qualified.
I've owned several of the these over the years, and the interesting thing is that the older models, with the narrow front sight blade and narrow rear groove, are easier to be accurate with at longer ranges than the newer ones with the bigger front sight and wider groove. It's just more difficult to pick up those sights quickly.
People look at my old colt snubby like it’s goofy but then see my grouping for 357 and then ask me about it lol they absolutely can be accurate at reasonable distances In a bad situation
@@GigBound no. The problem with a snub is you lose a significant amount of what little muzzle energy you get from a pistol round through the reduction of velocity. Doesn’t matter if you can hit at 50 yards if the bad guy doesn’t go down when you do
Worked at a gunshop many years ago... every idiot that came in saying short barreled pistols were "inaccurate." i responded with "they're more accurate than you" after some of my competition freinds and myself(also competitive shooter) wanted to really try out the myth and all came back with the same conclusion.... unless laid out, supported, and given unlimited rest between shot times pretty much every modern barrel will shoot better than its wielder within its proper distances.
the barrel lockup is also very important. most of your off the shelf locked breech tilting barrel pistols are probably going to be about 4-5 inch guns at 50 yards. A fixed barrel handgun like a revolver or certain blowbacks will be far more accurate. Accuracy X can make a 1911 that does minimum 1.5" groups at 50 yards though
Keep in mind, if youre not a cop, and carry for self defense, you aren't shooting 50 yards. Most muggers don't yell "give me your wallet" from 150 feet. Youre going to engage at 6 or so feet at most.
Mine is really accurate at 30 to 40 yards . I just had to figure out my sights because when I aimed it like my other guns it hit different then where I thought it would . I had to nose down a bit cause it hit high on the target
Bob Munden proved this same point many years ago, the difference was that he shot from 200 yards. Please note that I am only pointing this out, not to dis Jared.
In bullseye or precision pistol disciplines, it's how it's done. Watch ISSF disciplines; finger will be on the trigger at the ready position. When a guy can hit a bullseye at 50 yards, he's got trigger control...
Nice shot lol . I grew up out in the country and I never practice closer than 20 yards. And I find it hilarious when I hear people talk about making a 20 yard shot as if they landed on the moon. I always told people I started where they finished when it came to range. Practice long range it all the time and you can hit long range all the time as you just clearly demonstrated and the close range stuff. Well that’s easy mode.
Snubs are just as accurate as the person shooting them. Their reputation as "belly guns" amd short range only weapons is grossly overstated and misunderstood. Being on target, quickly and at a distance while fighting off the adrenaline shakes and fearing for your life as a cop, etc. just might have something to do with it, as well.
Alot of people think long barrel means more accurate but physics says no! . A short barrel is more mechanically accurate . If no human factor is involved and all else is equal the shorter barrel will print tighter groups .
Thats just because double action is not something most people take the time to learn, its also pretty unnecessary nowadays. I compete with a beretta 92x that has a dot. Its required to be in double action for the first shot per rulebooks in pretty much all matches, as well as pretty much all beretta doctrine. Very few people can get used to a heavy double action, but i chose use a DA gun to master my trigger pull. If i can slap an 8 pound trigger smoothly, i can pull a 3 pound trigger without moving the sights.
Proceeds to aim for 20 seconds 😅 Snub nose revolvers are a get off me gun. The second your not completely comfortable standing on a flat range while moving and exchanging rounds between you and the "target". Not to mention the target also being a perfectly stationary target. The second you try to use a snub nose at distance in the real world some car full of thugs with glocks/swtiches would just end you 😂
“Is _______ firearm accurate?” Yes, these are precision instruments, but they can only be as precise as you are. Whether or not you will ever attain the accuracy that they’re capable of is a different matter. Like anything else, it takes patience, practice, and a certain level of earned and innate skill.
I told you in one of your videos that I have a Colt Combat Commander that I hunt with. It has 3 3/8" of rifling. My longest kill was a pronghorn at 112 paces (39" pace). I can keep it on a car hood at 600 yards.
Bag 😂 Why are you imagining bad guys? You are daydreaming bro. The short was meant to disprove that snub nose revolvers are inaccurate. It has NOTHING to do with bad guys. You are making up scenarios in your head that aren't associated with the discussion. Take a break my lad
Center hold. using fiocchi 158gr fmj, must have a really fast powder. i was using pmc Bronze before that and it was falling wayyyy low. i have a full video accuracy testing it at 50 yds
50... 40... 30... 20... 10- ok so he stabbed you, you're dead ... Too easy- you- I- you- that was like 90 seconds of you aimin- I can't even- you- I- f*ckin-
Snubs are just as accurate as the longer barrels, but can be harder to aim because of the short sight radius, and the lighter weight doesn't help to hold them steady.
They are what they are. They can be used by anyone, but they require more practice than a full size handgun, but they all require practice.
This
Less bullet velocity, more recoil.
I bought a new snubby, a Nickel S&W 38spl in 1980 because my hand just fit that pistol, it was such a beautiful work of art and craftsmanship.
First time out we walked out about 70 long steps with a paper plate and walked back....fired 3 rounds and when I walked back to check that plate, 2 rounds on the plate and a nick on the edge.
My buddy was shocked, and I just looked at him, my mouth wide open. We're both in our 70's now and he still tells that story.
Model 637?
@@glennsosinske3260 No, it's an older model 36, I didn't think I'd like the shiney nickel but once I held that pistol and got a good look, it was love at first sight, ha.
I did buy a 637 later around 2003 think, it came with a factory installed crimson trace and could shoot +P ammo, I couldn't believe how light it was. It's a really good shooter too, even past 50yrd.
@@glennsosinske3260 The Model 637 is 5 shot variation of the Model 37 Chiefs Special Airweight. Stainless barrel with ultra light j type aluminum frame.
@@kevinpurcell7452 I believe it was an airweight model da/sa. I would buy my brother boxes of 38spl+p to get his trigger time up. Pretty snappy shooting, but tons of fun.
Wonderful story!!
You're a better shot than I with a snub nose.
Impressive, very nice
let's see paul allen's .38
@@JaredAFJared is cultured
Snub nose revolvers are more accurate than most people can shoot.
The issues (as others have said) are:
1. Short sight radius
2. Fixed sights are harder to pickup (since they are milled as part of the firearm).
3. Heavy trigger pull in DA.
That said I have a 642 for dedicated pocket carry and it has served me well.
If the bullet is stabilized, there is no reason a short barrel can't be accurate. The short sight radius can make it difficult to be precise, though. Nice work.
real
yeah, most of the time it is the owner and not the gun or the round that is inaccurate.
weirdly, those people find it hard to say "I am not that good and I should train more." yet will shout "Educate yourself!" loud at everyone.
Cannon used a 38 sub nose in the 70s, and he was able to shoot snipers from over 100 yards. He was also able to run down every bad guy with his LTD.
Barnaby Jones was even more accurate with his snubby. He was able to get leg and shoulder hits on moving targets and never cause a fatality. 😂
Hell of a sniper shooting from 100yrds
@@mikeoxlong339
Frank Cannon was a private eye in a 70s tv show.
William Conrad was the actor.
This has been a Quinn Martin production. (Trust me, anyone who saw these shows knows this statement)
Coincidently, Barnaby Jones was a sort of spin off from Cannon.
I remember the show. Think his car was a Lincoln Mark V.
@@xagtly Barnaby Jones!!!! Great pull, damn near forgot about that show.
The pigon in the background hoot hoooot hooo hoo huuu
real
My first gun i ever bought for myself was a Charter arms detective special. The revolver was more accurate than i was anyyway, worked for several years before i could afford a nicer upgrade.
This is the gun science we want to see thank you
ruger gp-100 @ .357 with a 3.5-in barrel... a lifesaver
Fixed barrel revolvers are inherently accurate
true it will be more accurate than a tilting barrel autoloader, but does that minute level of inaccuracy even mean anything with how short the effective range is? Long range shooters comparing bolt action rifles to autoloaders dont seem to think so.
@@weakest17yroldIn handguns, its mechanical accuracy doesnt matter for 99.9999% of applications. No human is going to be more accurate than the pistol itself. Mechanical accuracy of most, if not all autoloading pistols is around 5-6 MOA. I dont think any man on Earth is going to get 5 inch groups in any conditions or setup out of a tuned revolver, let alone a glock or a sig. You will never be more accurate than the handgun itself
BUT…… There is a caveat. Sight radius is definitely a thing, and snub nose revolvers have horrible sight radiuses. So objectively speaking, since the sights are so close together, you will be much, much less precise with it than a longer barreled handgun. Thats just the laws of physics and how light works.
Its not that the snub nose itself is inaccurate, but the sights they have are just physically impossible to have be as accurate as a longer gun. So yes, they kind of are inaccurate, which is why they take much longer to line up a shot with
There are a lot of people that easily shoot better than 5 inch groups at 100 yards with a revolver.@@mynameisjeff6988
@@mynameisjeff6988if the human is somehow more accurate then the gun, the gun is shit in one way or another
Pretty good shooting. One handed at 50 yards.. for context. That's 1/2 the length of a football field. Impressive
The weirdest part about learning to shoot a revolver was learning to keep my thumbs out of the way of the cylinder gap.
My fav kitchen gun. You will surprise yourself how accurate you can be with a little practice.
The gun is not inaccurate. The gun is abaurdly difficult to use.
You only get a small increase in accuracy by increasing barrel length and velocity.
A 4" barrel has 1.5x the velocity on a .357 as a 2" barrel with the same load. That was pretty mind blowing to find out.
That's why running magnums in a snubby didn't make any sense. I run 38spl +P in my 3-inch Model 60
@@JJ_SDWR That's why buying a 2" barrel revolver doesn't make a lot of sense. 3" is low. 4" is probably the smallest you should go for .357.
That was fast.no time for the target to run or shoot
YOU are accurate....
The gun was already that way...😂😂😂😂
For 35 years, my dad qualified with the Smith and Wesson model 36.
Every year, different range officers, he was told that: “You can qualify with that!”
“Are you telling me, that I won’t be allowed to qualify with it?”
“No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying, is that pistol isn’t accurate enough to qualify with. It’s just a snub-nosed 36!”
And every year, they’d want to buy it from him after he qualified.
I love my 38 snubbie
Mighty Fine!
I surprise myself Too
Sometimes.
lets try it in double action
Great shot man,keep these videos coming💯
Your eyes are definitely better than mine haha. Nice pocket rocket, btw wheel guns are the best 🤠
My dad bought me a sw 357 nickel plate when i was 13 years old i love it im 53 now. 50 yards is a lot farther than u think
Impressive, I would not have guessed.
Yes there very accurate.
The ammo makes a huge difference here, snubs are very picky in which ammo they'll throw accurately.
Your a good shot mister
I like this guy. Can we replace civilian tactical with this guy?
Kimber makes some nice ones
Bro closes one eye when aiming 😂😂😂😂😂
So cool
I've owned several of the these over the years, and the interesting thing is that the older models, with the narrow front sight blade and narrow rear groove, are easier to be accurate with at longer ranges than the newer ones with the bigger front sight and wider groove. It's just more difficult to pick up those sights quickly.
The hidden hammer snubs make a lot of sense as a pocket gun
Yes!👍🇺🇲🤠
I have a snubbed 38/357 torus it does about the same brothers
Um…huh?
Those snub noses fit perfectly in Liberty overalls zippered pocket while working outdoors. I’ve shot many a venomous snake in a pinch outdoors
People look at my old colt snubby like it’s goofy but then see my grouping for 357 and then ask me about it lol they absolutely can be accurate at reasonable distances In a bad situation
Og asf
Bro is a gen z fudd. It’s not about accuracy, it’s about velocity
It’s really more of an issue with the short sight radius, that many people misconstrue as a problem with the snub barrel’s velocity.
@@GigBound no. The problem with a snub is you lose a significant amount of what little muzzle energy you get from a pistol round through the reduction of velocity. Doesn’t matter if you can hit at 50 yards if the bad guy doesn’t go down when you do
Love your response, "Huh". Nice shot...😮
Worked at a gunshop many years ago... every idiot that came in saying short barreled pistols were "inaccurate." i responded with "they're more accurate than you" after some of my competition freinds and myself(also competitive shooter) wanted to really try out the myth and all came back with the same conclusion.... unless laid out, supported, and given unlimited rest between shot times pretty much every modern barrel will shoot better than its wielder within its proper distances.
the barrel lockup is also very important. most of your off the shelf locked breech tilting barrel pistols are probably going to be about 4-5 inch guns at 50 yards. A fixed barrel handgun like a revolver or certain blowbacks will be far more accurate. Accuracy X can make a 1911 that does minimum 1.5" groups at 50 yards though
"Aint nothing but a peanut"
-ronnie colman
"Snub nose revolvers are inaccurate!" Is a worse claim than ".22 will destroy someone's skull!" or ".22 won't kill anyone!"
The firearm is totally accurate. It’s the user ha ha
Making it look easy 😂
Practice, Practice, Practice
Shot without a rear sight, simply amazing.
Can you create pro/con video of aiming with one or both eyes ?
Yeah I was getting good at clay pigeons at 70 with my 38 and then I traded up and feel like I lost part of my soul
That was too easy let's try it again😮😅😂❤🎉
Oh ya , you were talking while you cocked it for the second shot , very dangerous, that thing could gone full auto on ya 😂
Snubbies always get me thinking about Jack and Lee. 🤔
You should see Bob munden hit a target at 200 yards with a snub.
Awesome! But yea its not the barle its the sight radious
Keep in mind, if youre not a cop, and carry for self defense, you aren't shooting 50 yards.
Most muggers don't yell "give me your wallet" from 150 feet. Youre going to engage at 6 or so feet at most.
Mine is really accurate at 30 to 40 yards . I just had to figure out my sights because when I aimed it like my other guns it hit different then where I thought it would . I had to nose down a bit cause it hit high on the target
Bob Munden proved this same point many years ago, the difference was that he shot from 200 yards. Please note that I am only pointing this out, not to dis Jared.
ive seen that, super impressive
Jared, your channel is always great to watch. You explain things and techniques so us lay people can understand. Outstanding channel you got going on.
Yup it was not dead center , it was atleast 1 to 1.1/2 inches off at 50 yards so ya if your shooting at Flys that won't cut it lol the doubters silly
Wait...wait, he put his finger on the trigger. Bad...very bad trigger discipline!
In bullseye or precision pistol disciplines, it's how it's done. Watch ISSF disciplines; finger will be on the trigger at the ready position. When a guy can hit a bullseye at 50 yards, he's got trigger control...
I was thinking how he was going to shoot the revolver while his thumb was on the hammer.
Once owed mod 19 2.5 barrel the bullet would hit where it was aimed if you can aim.
It's still farther than the gun was designed for.
Nice shot lol . I grew up out in the country and I never practice closer than 20 yards. And I find it hilarious when I hear people talk about making a 20 yard shot as if they landed on the moon.
I always told people I started where they finished when it came to range.
Practice long range it all the time and you can hit long range all the time as you just clearly demonstrated and the close range stuff. Well that’s easy mode.
Snubs are just as accurate as the person shooting them. Their reputation as "belly guns" amd short range only weapons is grossly overstated and misunderstood. Being on target, quickly and at a distance while fighting off the adrenaline shakes and fearing for your life as a cop, etc. just might have something to do with it, as well.
Well, for those of us that is "deadly" we might need all ods with us including god and weather , temp and so on. 😁
Ha! 😊
A better test of accuracy might be alternating between two targets at that range?
It's called how do you get to Carnegie Hall practice practice practice practice practice practice practice
Alot of people think long barrel means more accurate but physics says no! . A short barrel is more mechanically accurate . If no human factor is involved and all else is equal the shorter barrel will print tighter groups .
yep, stiffer, less surface area for the bullet to rub along/less chance of hitting minor imperfections etc.
Funny didnt hear the steal on the second shot 😂
It hit the piece of wood behind it 🤫🤫
@JaredAF I know I heard the thud lol
The hammerless models, while having identical mechanical accuracy, are far harder to shoot accurately.
Thats just because double action is not something most people take the time to learn, its also pretty unnecessary nowadays.
I compete with a beretta 92x that has a dot. Its required to be in double action for the first shot per rulebooks in pretty much all matches, as well as pretty much all beretta doctrine. Very few people can get used to a heavy double action, but i chose use a DA gun to master my trigger pull. If i can slap an 8 pound trigger smoothly, i can pull a 3 pound trigger without moving the sights.
Try it on moving target.
I had a mod38 and hit a plate 100yrds away
One of the most accurate guns ever, the snub nose 38❤😊, and it packs a punch too
If it had a 10 round chamber
It's the operator, not the device.
Isn't that the extinct pigeon call in the background noise after the dogs barking
If a fixed barrel is inaccurate IDK 😶😐 im surgical with my Rossi snubby 38spl but my G17 5.2 inch barrel pfffft hit a fly's ass @90yrds
They are not inaccurate there's just a greater margin of error
Proceeds to aim for 20 seconds 😅 Snub nose revolvers are a get off me gun. The second your not completely comfortable standing on a flat range while moving and exchanging rounds between you and the "target". Not to mention the target also being a perfectly stationary target. The second you try to use a snub nose at distance in the real world some car full of thugs with glocks/swtiches would just end you 😂
“Is _______ firearm accurate?”
Yes, these are precision instruments, but they can only be as precise as you are.
Whether or not you will ever attain the accuracy that they’re capable of is a different matter. Like anything else, it takes patience, practice, and a certain level of earned and innate skill.
They worked great then, and still do. Just because it's old tech and not plastic with a mag doesn't mean squat.
And if you are in a situation that requires you to use your gun you almost never use your sights
I think even a slow zombie would have gotten him in that amount of time.
Snubbies aren't inaccurate but most people shoot them inaccurately.
Try a moving target
How do we know you hit them
Não troco revolver por semi, não vou ficar procurando projétil no chão não depois de algo
"Too easy." In that wind?? Smart a.....😅
I told you in one of your videos that I have a Colt Combat Commander that I hunt with. It has 3 3/8" of rifling. My longest kill was a pronghorn at 112 paces (39" pace). I can keep it on a car hood at 600 yards.
Bro thinks he’s him
I bet the bag guy stands still
Bag 😂
Why are you imagining bad guys? You are daydreaming bro. The short was meant to disprove that snub nose revolvers are inaccurate. It has NOTHING to do with bad guys. You are making up scenarios in your head that aren't associated with the discussion. Take a break my lad
Now do it double action.
That's why second shot missed.
How high was your holdover to hit that far...? I find most .38s drop fast
Center hold. using fiocchi 158gr fmj, must have a really fast powder. i was using pmc Bronze before that and it was falling wayyyy low. i have a full video accuracy testing it at 50 yds
@JaredAF thats incredible you didn't hold over that distance. Your an Excellent marksman
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10- ok so he stabbed you, you're dead
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Too easy- you- I- you- that was like 90 seconds of you aimin- I can't even- you- I- f*ckin-