This Has Got to Stop - How Can These People Have A Voice?
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We come back off our holiday and should be totally refreshed but the Vile Trolls have been pushing their poison and have ramped it up to the point where they have invaded our privacy, insulted us in a public forum and also my so called ex friend has allowed them to enter his comments and throw hate and disrespect at us in front of our loyal subscribers. LV Camp is not removing their comments and has agreed with them in one thread basically agreeing with them that having a whish list is begging. I needed to put this video out there to show the pressure we are being put under whilst we are doing our job on CZcams. Sorry for this video but it needed to be aired.
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the winner is @tracey Hoult number 79
Well done Tracey
🎉 Well done Tracey 👏
I was 1 number out 😂
Well done.xx
Well done tracey 💜xx
I could never understand how someone gets joy from trying to make people miserable. What a horrible way to live.
They get a kick out of belittling others to make themselves feel important.
I do believe everyone should have there own opion. But I agree with you this has gone to far. Im not letting these comments carry on criticism etc of youtubers. As from now i have removed all disrespectful message's past and future.
Leevancamp
Very well said
Aww what a shame everyone falls out its sad you was big pals ignore the trolls 😢😢
Well said Martin keep your chin up martin
You're a good man Lee. I hope you both make up sooner rather than later. Life is only so long and it's not worth loosing a good friendship.
I am so terribly sorry for what has happened and Martin and Lee do not deserve all this hate. You two were a fantastic double act and I was hoping for a video blog of you both doing your thing. God bless you both for bringing a ray of sunshine into my life.
Love your vlogs, your family is a delight. Don't let them get you down.
The Butler Army have got your back
We came across your vlogs a few months ago when we searched for Rhodes and have watched quite a few of them now - we really enjoy how genuine and down to earth you both are, thank you, keep up the good (& difficult) work, ignore the negative energy x
Trolls are sick and lonely individuals not worth worrying about
So say I. The thing is they're so affected by this. It's very upsetting 😡
well said
It’s a real real shame , as you have said you and Lee have had great repertoire a real comedy duo , I hope this gets resolved as life is too short and good friends are hard to find . You are a lovely family and I know you will rise above it ❤
many comedy duo's fall out.
@@butlersempirethis is very true , friendship should conquer trolls. like I say you rise above all the plonkers , I don’t care what people think or say about me life is too short , all your loyal viewers have you and your families backs Martin ❤👍
I subscribe to a lady in NZ farmers wife cooking videos
She had trolls telling her to get her teeth fixed
Update her kitchen unbelievable how mean these people can be
Just keep going you two are amazing ❤
Absolutely disgusting people name calling I know it’s hard to ignore I think your family are amazing and great entertainment ❤
I miss Lee, not so good without him😢
Yes, i also miss them having a laugh together, you never know in the future they might make up
Sorry to hear things with yourselves and Lee are in a bad place at the moment. Only thing I would say is if the chance for you all to talk it out and put it behind you occurs, give it a shot. Life is short, to short to lose friends. Take care and all the best.
So sorry that you have all had to deal with this and appreciate how transparent you guys are and am disgusted for you and your family that you are going through this. Please be assured that all of your hard work, vlogs, holiday vlogs, aerial shots, taking ‘us’ with you to places a lot of people wouldn’t see and the humour and banter is invaluable. My daughter and I watch daily and enjoy all of your videos - keep going don’t let the haters get you down cos karma will reach them eventually xx
Hiya Martin and Sharon, I watched your blog last night and loved the segment with Sharon grooming the boys. I was sorry to hear about Martin and Lee no longer friends, but Martin, you have played right into the trolls hands by deleting your wish list. If viewers like to send a gift, let them. They ,as I do, love to watch you and Sharon and your wider family. It brings joy and laughter and some wise advice. Please don't let these sad, pathetic little people, and I am being nice as I would get thrown off if I said what I really thought about them, stop you doing a brilliant job. I love you both, stay strong xx
Unfortunately for CZcamsrs and live streamers put themselves into the public arena making their personal lives less personal and all the drama that goes with it.
The price of fame is priceless
Life too short , you all got on so well together, some people out there like to see drama and fall out with friends…
i support you both, you light up my world and like ive said before i look forward to every single video you put up...
Good on ya, I’ve just found the channel and it’s great! Keep doing what you’re doing and all the best!.
You'll never stop them and showing you're annoyed just makes them do it more.
Abuse needs to be addressed.
@@butlersempire Yeah but the problem is the anonymous nature of the internet, the ease of creating new accounts plus the fact these people could be from anywhere on Earth.
@@butlersempiredon’t stop being you.. the majority of your followers follow you for both your content and personality, we wouldn’t follow you otherwise! Also, you’ve had numerous people saying they’d love a tv station to pick you up.., that proves you have great content and are “one of the people”. Don’t let the b’s get you down but I’m glad you’re confronting them x
I always thought he was a wierd kind of guy stay strong love you’re channel ❤
It's about time we fought back against troll time wasters. Is there any chance that they could devote their precious time to voice a real opinion about what we can do to help people in real need in this country. Let's start with child poverty. Talk about that trollies and get to work.
I think we all must remember it’s not illegal to say nasty things about people we live in a free speech country no matter what people dislike
Free speech, fine, not hate speech and bullying though, that can be prosecuted
@@Charlie_CrownFree speech and hate speech is a matter of someones opinion, just saying.
@@geminil2415 and I'm saying that's what courts are there for, to decide that
@@Charlie_Crown No sorry! I will be the decider of what I choose to say. Not a court.
@@geminil2415 ...not if it's in any way libellous, whether you like it or not, sorry, not my rules, that's just reality...
I amongst a whole bunch of other folk love what you do and are privileged to be welcomed into yours and your families lives.
These negative trolls need to get a life and let people be happy! They’re just jealous, and clearly are not happy in their own lives that they need to make others hell.
Don’t succumb to them. Agree you need to report them. Trolls are all over, not just CZcams!!! They need addressing and exposing. If possible!!
Love you guys. Keep up the good work xx
Whatever happens we will always love your videos and look forward to the next ones, They give us such great entertainment. Hope for happier days ahead.
Martin & Lee, please make up.
We all 🫶🏻you!
Hi Martin and Sharon
You have more supporters than trolls. They are not worth anything. Keep your chin up and keep blogs coming.
Love to you and the family, Martin and Sharon. Some people are so jealous and can’t bare to see anyone else doing well. 👍🏻
I love all your videos they have made me smile and have helped me in the last couple of weeks to help me with getting over eye surgery thank you so much of that
Lee had an opinion. Its his opinion and he is allowed it. It was also on his own channel. Why shoot him down for it. Doesn't seem fair.
We have spoken about trolls before, He let me down, its that simple.
@butlersempire in that case, he should have known better then. He shouldn't have allowed them to use his platform. Don't change what you do to accommodate the idiots and don't let them grind you down. 💯 respect 🙏
Jealous nasty people, me and my hubby love watching you and we’ve subscribed to Tracy and Ben and Stacy and Gary as well, you carry on what your doing we love you all xx
❤
I a watching you now Martin and Sharon and I feel so very sad that you are being treated this way. I have lived in Penang Malaysia for 42 years (originally from
Manchester) and I absolutely love your channel! I am now also following your other family CZcams sites. Loving it! It’s sad that you and Lee have had your differences, but these things happen and life goes on! Just continue being yourselves as you are such lovely people.
If you or your family are ever in Malaysia for a holiday do contact me and I would be happy to meet up with you and show you around!
Keep on keeping on and look forward to your new little grandson in a couple of weeks! Grandchildren are such joy!
Love to you all
Lynda in Penang 🥰♥️🏝️
Aw I’m so sorry for what you and your family are going through!! I love watching you all!! X
I miss Lee, but will still follow him,as we will the Butler family,we love you all, as for the trolls, there are now laws for cyber bullying, good luck and all the best to Butler's and Van Camp, and we hope you can reach a resolution, life is too short
So sorry to hear about you and levi camp I hope you evenualy resolve your problems keep up the good work
Good luck to you guys and Lee too. It is a shame that it has come to this but I hope you can all move on. It was great to see Lee on your channel so thank you to you all for that. God bless
Love your channel ,you both certainly have helped many with their airfryers ,youve entertained us with your trips and holidays ,a smorgasboard of everything .Yes im looking into keto now. Do what YOU BOTH want 😊
Ive been watching you for a couple of years and thoroughly enjoyed your vlogs, but ive gotta be honest and if im deleted and blocked im sure ill survive, but come on now sort it out between you both. Sort out the trolls by all means, i agree with that, but its embarrassing watching 2 grown men acting like this. You're the same age as me, this wasn't how we were raised, you're better than this
Phew, I had the wrong number. My cat is happy 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Great comment
Always look forward to your notifications when new videos are released. Love both of you and your wonderful family. You work damn hard to be successful. These people are jealous, ignore them xx❤
So sorry to hear about those awful bullies. I love your videos & have completely changed the way I cook now that I have airfryer and a new induction hob thanks to you both. Your recipes and your friendly banter. !eep it up I won't be able to carry on if you stop Love to you both XX
Hi Martin and Sharon i don't normally comment but i feel it's time too. You guys are good people and so is Lee but as i watched your video around mid way through you were talking about Lee and you were keeping it sensible civil and polite about you and Lee and what was happening with the trollettes, you then towards the end of the video really started having a go at him in as much as saying he was fuelling the fire, i don't think this is the case and not what Lee would intend i'm sure, and i see both views everyone has a right to an opinion even misled or bad one's as Lee says but i agree with you also hate should never be allowed and cyber bullying is a blight on not just youtubers but anyone who has a computer/phone/tablet. Maybe you and Lee should sort it out, stubborness and pride can get in the way don't let it, maybe you two could get some other youtubers together and make a video about the the trollettes like a bunch of you using your voices in defence of all people who suffer from cyber bullying that would be good to see. Thats how i see it others will see it differently but we can all agree falling out with your mate is never good and the trollettes need to be dealt with. Now let's see you and Lee having breakfast at the ragged apron and getting your Laurel and Hardy on lol.
Please take no notice of these trolls we all love watching yourself and your son and daughter's channels, keep up the good work and the time and efforts your putting in. Xxxx
Keep up the good work. You put smiles on many faces
I fully understand and sympathise with your frustration and upset. I’m not a fan of social media and other than CZcams I tend to avoid it as it’s full of keyboard warriors and trolls who’s only achievements in life is to shout and insult others in order to give their insignificant and underachieving lives purpose.
There is a huge gap in the law relating to Social Media. Even threats to harm or life can be difficult to prosecute without extreme difficulty and additional evidence. E Mail abuse and threats are slightly easier to deal with and repeat offenders to your address can be prosecuted under stalking legislation.
I know this is of no comfort to you with your current situation but we all need to badger and press politicians to legislate against this behaviour. Our laws are simple inadequate for the digital age!
As regards those who question or comment why you can’t resolve your differences with a former friend I’m afraid life is not that simple. I spent 31 year of my professional life dealing with disputes and more often than not they never get resolved to both parties satisfaction. It’s not a perfect world, we are all different and regardless of age they still happen.
Incidentally I saw you and the family in the Cafe last week but didn’t say hello as I didn’t want to disturb your meal. All the best to you both, just take satisfaction that the majority of subscribers have the sense to realise these personal attacks are unwarranted, unfounded and disgraceful. Unfortunately until the law catches up with time there is very little that can be done. It’s a fact that these idiots have the ability to say things via keyboard they would never do to your face.
Thank you so much Next time do come over and say hello.
All I can say after reading on here and on LVC is what a shame 😔 your friendship was a breath of fresh air and what ever happened is awful that it has come to this.. very sad 😔 but things happen within friendships it’s just unfortunate yours was in the public eye. I hope after this video is aired you can all move on X
@butlersempire @leevancamp Personally I feel for both of you. It is difficult enough when friends fall out for whatever reason. But these reasons are private and neither of you should be hounded onto revealing private matters. Some of the comments I have seen from so called subscribers are nothing but disgusting. Lee has defended the Butlers at every point. Please dont irrevocable destroy a friendship over what could just be a misunderstanding. Call out the trolls and the vile comments but try to talk in private about your situation...
Kate here... You're both such lovely people. Full of life. So inspiring to so many, no doubt.
That's all you need to think about.
Lots of love from Canada. Spring has sprung ...Come and see us. ❤😄🇨🇦
Happiness is contagious. Everything else is crap.
Morning Martin and Sharon, I find it so sad that cyber bullying can't be stopped I know we say just ignore it but it must be terrible when it keeps happening, I guess if the royal family can't get it stopped what chance has the rest of us got,just keep doing what you do and also the rest of the family.😊
I miss Lee in your videos he added a an element of light hearted comedy to your videos and it's ashame you can't sort it out . Two grown men bickering 😢😢😢
I think one grown man bickering. I only state facts, and from what I see, Lee hasn't said anything personally offensive to Martin, just gave an opinion.
@@EbonyO19 agree
All I can say is after having four years of trauma you bring some happiness to my life, I look forward to your videos, I get to switch off for a while, just remember you are bringing happiness to many people. You both are genuine lovely people. I can’t thank you enough for the pleasure you both bring to my life. All your family are wonderful people. Thank you Martin and Sharon ❤
Well said!!!!!! ❤
Shocking what lengths people /trolls will go to, they have to be pretty sick in the head, totally vile
Rise above these evil ones
You are lovely people, great family
Keep Strong & Positive
Thankyou guys for keeping me entertained..great you tube watching..Linda from Isle of Wight
Lee is an amazing person unfortunately some of us though find ourselves in a position where we put our foot in the mouth without realizing and things come out in the wrong tone or manner even though it's meant to be a joke I speak from experience and he reminds me a lot of myself when Martin jokes it's fully transparent and shows in his tone and mannerism you cannot take it serious but when Lee would say certain things like me it's meant to be a joke but it doesn't remotely come out like that I really hope this issues resolved
Martin, you and Sharon both work really hard, we all love watching you and your family. My husband has been watching you for years and during lockdown I started to watch you too. Please don’t let this get to you, your better than these trolls. KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK XX💕
I have to chuckle because your cat on the table psyched me out not sure if it was a real cat at first store statue but I’m assuming it’s a statue😂 and I don’t know why that mattered inside my brain, but it did also, I am sorry to hear that you’ve been going through this stuff. Hopefully things get better for you. You’ve been putting out some really good content for years. Love you videos that you did in the past where you worked on the worst looking lawnmowers that you could find. Those were always hilarious and fun to watch.
We love all your chanels and vlogs.Thank you for all the entertainment and wonderfull things you both do.
What a horrible situation Martin and Sharon, I'm so sad for all of you. Forgetting the trolls for the moment, it's always upsetting when friends fall out, for both parties. I truly hope that one day you can both move on from your disagreement and meet again on common ground. We all have disagreements and some can be more upsetting than others but I always try to think that life is so short and the world is so full of trouble that it's always the better solution to make peace. Sometimes we have to agree to disagree, and that's ok, and sometimes we never have quite the same relationship with that person and that's ok too, but at least we've made peace. It's good to read that Lee has and will continue to take down any unpleasant comments. As for the trolls. clearly they're not wired right are they? It must be extremely upsetting for both you and Sharon and the rest of your family and it doesn't matter how much everyone tells you not to worry and ignore them you are still going to hurt, and that's why they do it, but you already know that.
I'm one of your subscribers who thoroughly enjoy your vlogs and appreciate all the hard work you do and I absolutely love your videos of your travels, and the dogs and your grandchildren.
Take care, please try not to let all this get you down, don't let them win! XX
You will never lose me as a subscriber, i love butlers empire and always will....trolls are jealous of your success!
I absolutely love your family keep fetching the fun !❤❤
I love watching your videos and love seeing your close bond with your family
We always take people as we find them, you guys seem like real genuine and decent people and that's where it stays for us, so we will keep watching, TBH we never miss an episode and try to catch your live on your Sunday specials.
Its sad that friends have parted as we did enjoy Lee in your video's, we will just have to see if you can work it out this time.
We thank you for your openness and honesty, we can appreciate how upsetting it must be behind the scences, we know this hate by a few will have taken over your life.
There will always be people who are jealous and can find fault, they seem to get some enjoyment from that, its hard to figure people out, It costs nothing to be nice.
Merlin & Dougal were such good boys when Sharon was using the hair clippers on them …. What handsome boys they are ! …It was a joy to watch.
What trolls get out of being nasty I cannot comprehend. I myself enjoy your channel. It’s through you that I got my ninja and I’m enjoying cooking with it, following a lot of your recipes.look forward to the next one.Thank you both for your time.
I just don't think people appreciate what you put into bringing us these videos. I am trying to start my challen but there is so much to consider, its a huge investment, camera's, decent WiFi for editing, cost of editing software, a decent laptop .. and you are always willing to help and support people with advice.
What I love most about your channel is the closeness of your family and how your son and daughters in law are treated as part of your family. So many dysfunctional families around and you are so kind and fun and all seem very close and genuinely love seeing that bond.
Keep doing what you are doing I hope us who love you far out weigh the trolls xxx
Thank you so much 😁
Hi Martin so sorry you are good people you bring sunshine and a breath off fresher into many lives thx for sharing ❤
Thank you for being so open Martin . It obviously upsets you and the family . Just ignore them
Mate xxxx
I absolutely love your channel and the content....you are both amazing genuine people trolls will hate because they have naff all else to do keep being you guys
Hi Martin Sharon just wondering how to go about getting one off your t shirts hope you get the trolls sorted
They are on Ebay.
@@butlersempire thanks
Don't care what others say..... Your life... You do whatever you want......
Most people do "buy me a coffee"..
Can't say I've read any negative comments.
They have been deleted.
Your strength is your ability to be the better people and remain true to yourselves
Hi Martin and Sharon, im so sorry for what's been going on 😢. Please never change, your videos hsve helped us, cheered us up and also helped us save money with all your tips etc. The patio area's look amazing and so looking forward to seeing the jobs you are doing around the house and garden ❤Love as always from Aberdeen xx
So what if people want to show appreciation for what you do, it's nothing to do with anyone else. Keep taking me on holiday, showing me different things I can do with my airfryer, places I can visit etc. You and your family are fun and pleasant keep on doing what you do ❤❤❤❤
So terrible to hear this very upsetting for you all. Martin and Sharon you are a wonderful couple with a beautiful family. Love and Best Wishes from Scotland ❤
So sorry for your troubles. Love you and your family videos it gives me lots of entertainment as i live on my own.🤗❤🤗❤🤗
I hope that day comes when you can do something about these evil people. Butlers Empire is one of my favourites and I watch every one. Still working my way backwards catching up on the older blogs . I watch all the family ones too.
We love your channel . There are always these type in all walks of life .
TAKE NO NOTICE . You give ue joy and happiness which outshines these people
Lynda xxx
So sad to hear about u and Lee u were great fun together, wish u both well so glad i dont read these comments theres enough hatred in this world lets all just be kind, people have feelings
There is some sad people in this world that have nothing better to do in life love the channel keep up the good work ❤
Love you and your family guys. Much love from Australia 🇦🇺 again xx 😘
Why is CZcams not doing anything about this.Ignore them the real people who watch you know better
Maybe because the trolling comments are being made on a website, and not CZcams.
Martin and Lee can control what is being said on their CZcams channels, but apart from seeking legal action against the trolls, or whoever hosts the website the comments are being made on take them down, there isn't anything CZcams can do about it.
Dougal and Merlin are two lovely dogs especially Dougal when Sharon was trimming him 🐶❤️ just remember your nice subscribers ignore the vile ones they are disgusting. Personally I love you lot ❤
you and the family stand tall Martin,you have harmed no one,all of you are such nice people...and i wish you all well.
Hi Martin, Sharon and family what a sick bunch of people those trolls are! Shame on them..keep going we love your vlogs whatever they are about and put the wishlist back up, no one is forced to send you anything but some of us choose to x
Sticks and stones. People are different, some good, some not so good, but people getting a criminal.record because they don't like/ hate something is a bit pathetic really. Plus, where will that end? One man's hate is another man's banter. Just out then, they'll soon shrink back.
not going to be the same without your old sparring partner,you obviously have your reasons and i understand that but am hoping that the fallout is only temporary as the comedy between you is really entertaining
Awww you have two beautiful dogs. I can’t tell you how much you have helped me with Air Frying. I’m a 76 yr old, not very mobile. You have turned my life around with cooking so I thank you. I love watching all your vlogs even car maintenance and I can’t drive anymore😂😂. My husband and I love watching you work with Gary and all your interaction with your other kids and grandkids. We are very much family people like yourselves, live for our boys, wives and grandkids, even followed them across the world to live in Australia. All I want to say really is please try not to let the vile trolls out there get you down, easier said than done I know. I hope you keep up your investigation Martin but don’t let it upset your health. Another point, I can’t believe what those vile people said about you helping your aunt. My husband and I at the time said OMG what caring people your are but we are like you normal.
Well back to normal your garden is looking amazing. Don’t know when it is going to happen but can’t wait for the wedding, and of course a new precious bundle to arrive. Xx
Hi guys and thanks for giving us your point. Take care x
I can feel your sadness Martin. You are absolutely right in what you say in my opinion and I am a little frustrated at how Lee cannot see the bigger picture. Onwards and upwards as you say, I look forward to the next video and thankyou for inviting me into your everyday life and for taking me on holiday with you. Love as always xx
Oh Martin & Sharon, I'm so very sorry to see and hear the distress that these trolls are causing you both and the lengths that some of them are going to! I really hope that one day the evidence you've collated can be used to stop this once and for all. It's just not fair and you don't deserve it.
The vast majority of us who watch your vlogs think you're fabulous and you have a wonderful family. Don't listen to anyone saying anything else. I'm loving watching all their vlogs too. You're not beggars or scroungers or anything else they've insinuated. People get joy in sending you gifts to say thank you.
I will never understand how certain individuals can sleep at night when they're going out of their way to be rude, nasty, unkind and hurtful to other human beings. They must have very sad and miserable lives. Please try not to let them get to you - although I appreciate that's easier said than done! Try and focus on those of us who think you're great and enjoy all the varied content that you put out and the time it all takes. Having a variety of vlogs keeps your channel interesting. Keep doing what you're doing. One day I will visit Woodhall Spa - you've done a fantastic job of selling it to us - next stop a job for the tourist board Martin?! 😂 I'd love to bump into you and Sharon, so I could thank you in person for the hours of entertainment and enjoyment you bring us. Anyway sorry for my waffly essay! But after watching this, I just had to come and show my support for you. Big hugs Butlers xx
Been watching your first every vlogs today Martin and Sharon . Really enjoying the videos
I am so sorry to hear all this Martin and Sharon and family xxxx
Oh my! People???? Your channel is better than the telly, it’s easy for us to say don’t take any notice, but there will ALWAYS be idiots who have nothing better to do. Keep on doing what you’re doing, brilliant ❤️🇨🇦
Don’t take your wish list down. If people want to get you something that’s their choice. You don’t put pressure on anyone to do it. Don’t let the trolls win. Love watching you guys and your family x
You all brighten my day’s, I’m going through a bit of a tough time as life can go sometimes. You are down to earth and positive in a world full of hate and fakery.
Keep doing what you and Sharon and your kids do. We love watching you all the way from Vegas. There’s always going to be horrible people in a lifetime . Your success is a pleasure to watch. CZcams need to protect more bloggers. Keep smiling Butlers 😊
Lovely dog. I wonder if it would work on my cat who is shedding her winter coat. Probably not as her claws are like daggers.😂
I'm from the US and love your carnivore videos. Im 68 and lost 109 doing keto. Now i do carnivore to feel enen better. Its been 8 yrs and havent had a heart attack yet😅 But no matter what you vlog ill keep watching. You two are the best of people, and im happy I've found you. Really enjoyed your last vacation. Thanks
Hi Martin and Sharon, I’m Linda C , I for one love your channel , put the wish list back up , I’m sorry but personally I can’t help by sending you stuff on your wish, but I know that some of your subscribers love to treat you . Stay strong and put that wish list back up. There’s companies that love you and they send you stuff to show us . Keep up the good work ❤❤❤❤❤
Hi Sharon and Martin, love your channel, I also loved L V C's banter with you. Do you two really want to die not speaking to each other? Life's too short guys, make it up
Keep up the great work ! We really enjoy your channel 😊
It’s such a shame the world we live in , and what you have to go through is disgusting, I love your vlogs and your family , many thanks for what you do guys
It’s disgusting! Sharon & Martin as a fellow Lincolnshire lass. Stiff upper lip. Rise above them. Continue with your channel. I’m very grateful for all the hard work you put into everything you do.