How Palpatine Maintained Imperial Military Morale
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- The Imperial Military became the largest employer in the galaxy. Today we take a look at how Palpatine's administration kept morale up amongst the troops through various periods of the Imperial Rule.
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One thing to give the Sith credit for is giving their subordinates a comfortable life within their tyranny in order to maintain their loyalty. For example, SWTOR's Sith Empire had military bases filled with luxury restaurants, shops, fun zones, etc. so that their soldiers remained 100% motivated in their exhausting and atrocious job
The old Sith Empire is one of my favourites.
"guys, after we're done burning this village, anybody want to ride the bumper cars or go on the roller coaster with me?" -sith trooper
Sounds like a place we all know and love 🫡
Yes that's one of the few positive aspects of the sith they're pragmatic and they don't care about money
@@moniXluveverywhere in some form?
Palpatine’s reaction to the reveal of Kamino’s destruction is one of the biggest political uno reverse cards in cinema history.
Absolutely loved that scene in bad batch
@@kaidenhouskeeper8889what episode
@@Mgkm15 season 2 episode 8 tho I think that episode 7 is the start of that arc
Luthen (Andor) was right, prompting the Empire to crack down after the heist and make everyone's lives miserable was exactly what the rebellion needed to wake people up.
In the Turner Diaries a lot of targets of the Revolutionary Command are comunication stations and Energy Plants.
The logic is that 'the average civilian will become an unwilling soldier to our insurrectionist cause when the lights go out and all its fridge food rottens. Regular citizens will swarm the streets in chaos, and the System doesnt have enough manpower to handle the societal collapse AND us Insurrectionist at the same time, theyll spread thin'
It’s refreshing when someone writing a fictional world actual understands real world dynamics and is able to incorporate them. Making the Star Wars rebels use the same tactics as modern day “terrorist” organizations makes the world feel so much more fleshed out
Or he poked the bear, causing it to attack people so there can be a bear problem for everyone
@@013wolfwarrior
There was already a bear problem. It just was wearing a funny hat, so the average citizen didn't think it was a problem.
@@eldorados_lost_searcherluthen just caused the bear to take off the hat lol
"Serve the Empire, or He chokes you."
Darth Vader holding up a choking hand.
Chocking
Nah, I'd desert.
Rebel: "HOW THE HELL DID YOU BECAME A BRAINWASHED MURDEROUS PAWN OF PALPATINE"
Imperial: "I watched the glorious "Empire Today" music video" 🗿
SW KINECT MENTIONED!!!
In legends, Palpatine used Battle Meditation to maintain high morale and to make his troops and pilots fearless.
fr?
"We Fought on!"
"Yes... Like Cadets"
@@nicenice2417yeah. It was a 'version' of battle meditation. It's one of the examples of how strong he was, in the force, because he was pushing that out 24/7.
It was supposed to tie all allied minds to him, while bolstering their courage. Basically fearless with exact orders and his level of bloodthirstiness. All while it was making his enemies suffer the same thing as force terror.
There were examples of times he knew the battle was lost, so he withdrew his support. It's is one of the explanations for why, even though the Empire had 2 or 3 fleets at the second death star, they dropped like flies when he died
@@nicenice2417legends got metal, some times.
And his storm troopers and most pilots still got rekt
And here I thought ol Palpy McSheevs just held a yearly raffle for tickets to a luxurious all inclusive spa resort on Alderaan. Explains why there was a precipitous morale drop around 0 BBY.
They added more lure about Imperial army just so we don't see Han as a regular storm trooper
...they did send him flying!
He was a navy lieutenant in Legends. I don’t know why they changed it to army grunt.
@@codieomeallain6635I think because they wanted him in canon to always have been rebellious (in terms of personality) no matter what. It would be hard to believe someone who's always taking risks and not following orders could somehow rise to a lieutenant of all ranks.
Palpatine did a great job making the entire galaxy see him as someone indispensable in their lives. In fact, a group of imperials nostalgic for the old regime tried to crash Luke and Mara Jade's wedding, not out of malice, but because the Emperor's death left a huge hole in their hearts, so they were disposed to do anything that could help them overcome their depression.
In later novels when Mara & Luke son Ben was a teenager, all the action they got into helping out imperial and the older political families. It was toss around referring to Jade's history as an Emperor Hand raised in the Force by the man himself, Mara was called Palpatine's Daughter and Ben Skywalker as Palpatine's Heir.
I recommend the fan film, "After Endor", about a Scout Trooper who has to team up with a Rebel soldier to survive after the Battle of Endor. It's a really cool Enemy Mine situation, and frankly, better than anything Disney has spat out lately, besides Andor/Rogue One.
At the end scene the final moment on the actor's face, his eyes turn yellow.
Fade to black, with Ewok war cries.
Sounds like something from Legends' Star Wars Tales' comic anthology series.
@@krispalermo8133?
Stormtrooper: I'm loyal to the emperor (Not really, I'm expendable for him)
"There’s a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
-2003 BSG commander William Adama
Vader could always boost the morale of grunts by choking their incompetent officers
I think it did opposite. they were afraid of being next. though it seems that Vader rarely if at all choke stormtroopers in the movies.
Then he kills someone like Captain Needa who had integrity and was willing to take the blame for losing the falcon to protect his subordinates. On a side note that would make a cool story, Needa's crew turning on the empire after Vader killed him. His ISD is even called "Avenger".
@@TheDownrankTrain Needa was definitely a good officer, and that would make an awesome story
@@spark300c some comics have him being less brutal with them
The choking will continue until morale improves.
Stormtrooper, "Are we the baddies?"
Nope
"Our Helmets look like skulls!"
5:07
This line just always stuck with me.
The Empire argued that the answer to life's problems was greater levels of iron fisted government control.
Dude. I love how niche your content can be. You really take time and dive into subjects. It really helps broaden the world of Star Wars. Thank you for putting in this time and effort. (Side note I think I’ve been a subscriber since 2019)
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Ironically that's what palpatine wanted the stormtroopers to be.The kind of soldiers who would blindly follow and inflict carnage without hesitation.
The different between a successful despot and unsuccessful despot in that successful one know they have to earn their loyalty rather then demand it. Look at Palpatine last action as Emperor, he demanded loyalty an obedience from Luke despite having done absolutely nothing to even try and earn it, then expects loyalty and obedience from Vader right after showing effort in earning it the moment before.
And this arbitrary standard was determined by....?
Palpatine saying that the clones blindly follow orders while the new stormtroopers do that same with more willingness.
Ironic - sheev palpatine
Palpatine lying through his teeth? unbelievable, I tell you.
You should talk about that one moment in Star Wars: Rebels where you can hear on the imperial news network that a group of rebels on a planet where routed out with a base delta 0 and peace has been restored to that world
... Sure. Peace on a dead world now....
One thing that becomes clear the more I hear/read stories about the history of the Empire (and the Star Wars galaxy as a whole), is that the editors and writers at West End Games deserve a lot of credit. They did the Star Wars roleplaying game in the 80s/90s, long before there was an Expanded Universe beyond "A Splinter in the Mind's Eye". They had a direct line to George Lucas and did so much to build the foundation of what this world/universe has become. Just a small games company--almost unknown by anyone these days--that contributed so much.
Always look forward to watching and listening to Allen breaking down Starwars, honestly if Allen was do a video of the history of the Hudson I'd watch the whole thing, he's got that Morgan Freeman vibe kicking
There are two aspects of the storm trooper corps that many people don't seem to be aware of. Both of these take advantage of the faceless nature of the legion and the practice of using , numbers ,not names to remove individuality.
1. Part of imperial officer training required spending time in armor as a Stormtrooper leading troops. You would never know if you were shoulder to shoulder with an Imperial officer candidate, A political officer. an intelligence agent or just the trooper in the bunk next door. The faceless nature would allow you to Commit heinous acts Under a shield of anonymity, All the while fostering the herd mentality.
2. The use of clones did not stop. In fact , it was elevated into a form of reward for those who demonstrated extreme loyalty or accomplishment that their genetic makeup would be preserved and duplicated to expand military numbers. In a combination of volunteer and conscript service, the doppelganger syndrome could be repressed since everyone wore their helmets all the time. The flash training of Spaarti clones Also allowed for the insertion of hyperloyal, zealot Super political agents authorized to perform field executions on the spot for disloyal actions, Order66 style.. When questioning or disobeying orders or imperial policy could get you gunned down on the spot it tends to stop happening.
" Good soldiers follow orders "🫡
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The theory that Lea remembered her mother through the force . But doesn't that defeat the purpose of taking recruits before they could remember their mommies.
Could Jedi in order remember parents through the force. Yes in a comic Obi wan has friend who Left to find her Father after visions. And she didn't even spend months in her womb
Well, there's a few ways to interpret that. We could recognize that Lucas changed his mind a lot and just take everything that's said at face value and not worry too much about continuity and contradictions.
Or, we could recognize that memories are actually kinda shitty and it's easy to misremember things. Uncle Owen never told Luke the truth about his real parents, so maybe Bail Organa never told Leia about her real parents either and only ever said that they died when she was very young. Memories from early childhood are going to be pretty hazy regardless. The sad woman that Leia "remembers" as a mother may have been a wet nurse or other caretaker.
Or we could accept the theory that she remembered her mother through the Force which makes the Jedi act of cradle robbing even more unforgivable because that means that not only were they forcibly taking children from their families (officially, the families probably "voluntarily" gave their children to the Jedi because it'd be dangerous to not have Force training, but in most cases it definitely would have been a case of being voluntold), they were doing so under false pretenses.
Which begs the question, does being able to do so necessarily mean they did? Perhaps Leia wanted to know her mother so much she reached out with the force to do so. But others who didn't harbour the need to think of someone they never met didn't.
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2:22 Palpatine wasn't a strongman leader though. He very much played the role of the centrist to the point where even Padme believed that he was mostly impartial in Senate affairs. While Bail Organa and other more pacifistic Republic loyalist leaders were able to see through his act, most people genuinely thought of him as moderate from what we see.
Certainly, his public appearance and the policies of his government are 2 very different things, but the point is that he was clearly not playing the role of a strongman like other dictators were. During the war he clearly acted as though he wanted peace with stuff like his Hearts and Minds campaign, and prior to the war he again played the moderate in the Separatist Crisis.
After the war, he didn't need to stoke tension whatsoever because he had already done so. There were a few occasions where he did act like a strong man publicly, but the majority of his appearances, including his one in TBB, very much focused on him being a reluctant autocrat who will do what is necessary to keep the peace, which isn't a strongman leader.
Video idea for you: look at the logistics of the Star Wars universe and how inefficient it was vs our real world logistical abilities. Cargo ships are mostly small with internal storage, save Imperial cargo haulers/tugs. But most goods are unloaded by hand, whether it's human/alien/droid. I'm sure this would be a good deep dive video
Nope.
We only SEE the "small, with internal storage" vessels, because the nature of the Rebellion and the Clone Wars requires a scale that individuals can effect something without blowing up a Death Star the vast majority of the time.
In supplementary materials they show container ships that have individual cargo pods BIGGER than a Star Destroyer.
Attacking or defending one of those whole ships would usually be an exercise in futility, so naturally anyone who just wanted to steal or protect a certain specific valuable cargo would be concerned with smaller, specialized freighters.
Diamond couriers don't ship their goods in a supetanker.
hey big man, i just wanted to write that your videos have always been super interesting and fun to watch or think about. Keep up the great content!
How would a war against between the vong and the borg go?
The Vong would go totally ape shit against the Borg. To answer your question, my money would be with the Vong for a final victory.
@@charlestaylor253I must respectfully disagree. One of the key strengths of the Vong campaign was their ability to exploit the political disunity of the New Republic. The Borg have no such disunity. Combine that with the fact that their biotechnology, while highly advanced, was still of the mundane variety, I don't think it would be the curb-stomp you suggest.
I'd wager the Vong would see several early successes, but would eventually rout against an enemy that has adapted to their biological weaknesses and cannot be meaningfully infiltrated.
Borg is hard to defeat. I would imagine assimilation would cause complete reversals of initial successes if any by the Vong
I was expecting Vice Admiral Rampart would be more involved in trying to hunt down CF 99 in order to leave more loose ends
First, he thought they'd died on Kamino because Crosshair lied to shield his brothers, even though he disagreed with them.
Then, Rampart was more interested in covering himself within the Imperial system by hiding the fact that CF99 wasn't dead (hence killing Mayday).
He probably thought the Bad Batch would either hide in the Outer Rim (which they tried to do) so that reports of their existence could be "managed" or they'd get themselves killed without being identified and save him the trouble.
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As with everything Palpatine did
Everything was for the empire
My life for the Empire 🫡
After watching this video, it made the Death Star sounded even more ridiculous. If Palpatine wanted to keep the Imperial military economically satisfied while also maintaining the high morale, he needed to allow at least one big enemy to exist for real after the Clones Wars. And this is one of the reasons why the Abbasid Caliphate allowed the Roman Empire to continue to exist after they won the revolution against the Umayyad Caliphate. Only after the Abbasid Caliphate fully consolidated the administration in all of its territories during the reign of Caliph al-Mahdi when the Conquest of Tarsus happened and the annual Arab raids into Anatolia resumed in full scale. And these raids eventually taking the ritualistic form during the reign of Caliph Harun al-Rashid because it symbolized the status of the Caliph as the leader of the ummah. And that is the point, the Empire has no enemies to fight after the Clones Wars until the rebellions occurred or when they encountered the Grysk from the Unknown Regions. And by that point, it is too late for the Empire. In fact, this whole thing makes Palpatine sparing Maul in the aftermath of that duel on Mandalore to be completely all for nothing. If only he decided to use Maul and the Shadow Collective as this threat that the Empire must fight instead, the Empire might lived longer a little at least.
He was probably planning to do just that, except the Maul loyalists saved him the trouble and broke Maul out of prison.
As has been shown in the Bad Batch, Rebels and Andor there were plenty of Seperatist holdouts, "insurgents", pirates and criminal gangs operating more or less independently in the wake of the Clone Wars for years before a formal Alliance was formed.
The whole approach Palpatine could use was "support a strong military so these factions can't threaten us again like the CIS did".
The Death Star was created in secret so he could drop the act and say "Obey or Die" to any whole planet who might give his political opposition a base of economic power to threaten his control.
Then it got blowed up and the exact reverse happened - large numbers of world declare themselves in rebellion and could, until the Impetial Navy arrived, provide exactly that support.
@@kenle2 Correction: Maul's loyalists did not break him out. He escaped when the clone troopers were executing Order 66 on Ahsoka. However, he has Gar Saxon in his hands. But instead, he is made the Imperial Viceroy of Mandalore. What Palpatine should have done is making him the leader of his own Death Watch, have him reclaim the worlds that are part of the Mandalorian Space while the Empire dealt with the Separatist holdouts to give him enough time to gain the make the Mandalorian Space looked big. And when that happened, the remnants of the Empire's enemies will flocked to the systems ruled by the Mandalorians. And this is when the Imperial-Mandalorian War begins for real. And by that, I mean both the Imperials and the Mandalorians simply conducted raids against each other at the borders annually.
This will keep the militaries of both sides satisfied with the Mandalorians finally returned to the old way while the Empire has an actualy enemy to justify its massive war machine. This, however, means no Death Star here.
Hello there allen
All things considered, the Stormtrooper Initiative was really stupid. Clones were far less likely to turn.
We need to see more imperial army in live action and animation. I know we saw alot of them in andor thankfully but we need another mimban esc scene from solo. I just love the costume design, it's like a 70s futurism Wehrmacht and I always love to see it anywhere, one of my favorite costume designs in star wars
How interesting, Palpatine like Hitler or Stalin loses sight of the world he is holding control off. But, in real life Stalin realized that he needed to let go of the fear and control to survive the war and maintain power.
The worst historical análisis
Just like that disposable soldier in Bad batch S1.
Hey Alan, could you dock U-wings with a Gozanti?
plz dont ever stop posting
How come Obi wan could take of his personal issues 🤷.
if the Jedi were not supposed to have attachments yet attached to the republics the Anakin couldn't go back and free his mom because the Jedi weren't supposed to have attachments. That plot hole is inuniverse. It would set off the plot if they did go back for Smee individually but Watto already sold her to the family who freed her and he gets visions of her death years later.
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I see why those working in the name of a government couldn't just go off and challenge places they had no jorestictin in.
And so I could see why places they did have restrictions in leaving would be an issue..
Example of the clone wars series opening an issue.
Mandolor was supposed to be neutral why Obi had come alone to rescue Saltine. . An over thrown leader. Not individual slave so more political and they could just Bought Smee out of slavery. Obi came to fight with Maul.
And reason Jedi couldn't change the hole system because it would an act of war. Obi Wan's personal issues attachment was After war started anyway. That's more blind unseen how come Obi could take his personal issues in hypocrisy. That's flat out double standards
Honestly i think we need too see more of the imperial army and save the Stormtroopers as elites since that what they are initially as
7:20 The Bad Batch is the only source that suggests that the clones were decommissioned so quickly, thus the speed at which it all happens cannot be true. What most likely happened is that the clones did not have the manpower to protect the Empire, thus the recruitment act creates a proper Imperial Army and fires non-essential clones, particularly in the Imperial Navy, where the poorly trained clone officers were being replaced by new recruits, possibly from defense forces and just people wanting to get a decent job.
The TK Trooper program lore makes things even more illogical, so for the sake of consistency and actual common sense, non-clone stormtroopers would not be deployed significantly until late 17bby (since the 1st canon Thrawn novel clearly shows that the Empire mostly has clone personnel in the far reaches), where they would mostly be situated in the Core Worlds. By 16bby, the clones would be a rare sight due to advanced ageing and heavy casualties in the war (as stated in the Tarkin novel).
EYYY Ya read the Star Wars Manga! Good shit
Regarding 5:08 J.F.K. had some inspiring words that, in contrast, might show the state of the galaxy as a civilization.
“Ask not what your country can do for you-ask what you can do for your country.”
Flipping the point of view from "selfish" to "self-less", is it even possible on our planet? Coruscant is said to have a population in the trillions. Cohesion in working towards the common needs and good of all, and yet also rewarding the contributing participants who excel and lead the way to greater times and prosperity.
Yep pretty much
thinking he just needed some more super star destroyers to get'er done ..... just saying
There's a why we separate military and the police, one fights the enemies of the the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people
How do you still have topics to talk about? I swear you’ve talked about everything in SW lol
Id love to hear how this was handled in legends
Your alegiance is to the Republic you say, eh? I hear that re-education camp is pretty nice this time of the year.
Can you guys make a video on parallels between Star Wars and Hinduism?
The officer on the thumb nail looks like a better sly Stallone
That’s probably what he would look like if he didn’t have face paralysis as a kid
FOR THE EMPEROR!
If the emperor actually gave consideration to morale, his empire truly may have lasted 10,000 years
5:24 without citizen-soldiers the Republican also limited how The Clone Wars effected families outside of the war zone. This made it so poor people, like that trooper, wouldn’t have military service as an opportunity. It also disconnects the people from a far away war. It makes almost all of the war between droids and clones, seem more of an abstract idea rather than a war with actual suffering and death.
Can you be more specific on history that is Canon vs legends more? I assume you are talking disney timeline unless otherwise stated recently since you bring up all thee Disney timeline stuff.
Me: Image a Man standing on top a giant pillar that’s a sculpture sphere and he’s addressing a mess of people all whom are mesmerized by him and your ADHD finally shuts down enough to let you here him speak……
Palpatine: I love Democracy I love The Republic
Me:🧎♂️
Big question from ignorance: the officer on the thumbnail is Silvester Stallone? He looks like him
Tarkan.. the greatest supporter of the rebel cause..
I think the ISB also counts as the FBI of the Star Wars galaxy, but more political and authoritative
How Palpatine Maintained Morale: Money.
Long live the Empire!!!
Alderaan and it's WMD program. Colin Powell, come on down.
Long live the empire
You have a wonderful view out those windows behind you Allen. Where do you live mate?
Congratulations, evil Sith Lord! You have finally conquered the entire galaxy! Now it's your job to... (checks notes) try to make everybody in the galaxy happy. Good luck with that!
Imagine the Imperial Stormtrooper Corps as a dumping ground for unemployed and troubled youth.
That's actually been the staple of most militaries throughout history.
Even the nations with a long-standing professional military service in place has to recruit from somewhere and wealthy, happy people rarely want to sleep in ditches and get shot at in grimy, far-away countries.
@@kenle2 India, where the armed forces absorb the unemployed, and the United States, where people facing criminal charges are given the option of military service as an alternative to prison.
How Palpatine Maintained Imperial Military Morale?
That's the neat thing: he didn't.
This is something i absolutely hate about the Disney canon, the empire lasted only a year after Endor, in the old EU, the Remnants were around for decades and still a major threat. Which is far more on point considering the size of the empire.
Miranda's the reason Imperial officers can't cheat on their wives😊
A propaganda machine has its advantages.
Palpatine always was good at taking advantage of the desperate.
Killing everyone that degree with you and replace them with more loyal people, is not a terrible idea, look at Stalin that also used fear like Palpatine , Stalin got rid of all the generals that were against him and that move saved him later on and allowed him to win the war by opening the pathway to a new generation of military officers and the Soviet Union became a super power , Gorbachov(sorry if I misspelled ) the last president of the USSR was more open minded and trusted people from different ways of thinking, he was betrayed and humiliated, the Soviet Union collapsed
Starting with better rations & not punishing troops for having real food. Better armor.
You completely missed the emperors over all agenda. He cared for his immortal rise not some puny empire. He had already replace that failed engine with 2 others during his time. Morale pift... immorality... YES PLEASE!
Clones don’t need representation, they’re clones.
I was they yo the same as the comisar of Warhammer
To you know shoots all person say somabdy dont like the huy
This is crazy but I could've sworn you were describing Trump when talking about Palpatine.
This pretty much describes America
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Ironic, the dark side was supposed to grant someone the power to break their chains yet Palpatine and the empire were shackled to public opinion.
How did Emperor Palpatine maintain Imperial moral ?
The answer is simple .
He simply used force lightning until moral improved .
And then he sent Lord Vader to convince anyone left with low moral to improve their attitude .
What's so hard to understand ?
Do you need a visit from Lord Vader ?
14:33 This sounds a lot like how the Feldgendarmerie (Geman Military Police) in WW2 became more and more antagonistic towards their own soldiers to try and keep the war effort going, to the point where they harassed and punished their own wounded for "desertion".
Great video, I watched it twice.
Despite some mistakes, Star Wars has become a wonderful example of how fascist can rise subtly, and die in a spectacular way. And the horrors it will commit along the way. 😔
If Darth Bane had been killed with the rest of the sith lords, how do you think the republic would have turned out? After 1000 years would it still have turned out like it did in the movies or were many of their problems and corruption perpetuated by the sith and their puppets?
Are we the baddies? 🤔
first?
Pal-Putin.
“Are we the baddies?”
*Imperial, not federal
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To use a modern phrase that applies so well here, Palpatine needed to "drain the swamp". He replaced a corrupt Chancellor but the people who corrupted that man never went away. The same corrupt Senators were still there and never faced any consequences for their behaviors. Frankly, he should have arrested a lot more of them after he took power. He could have held power much more easily with them out of the way. Imagine him hold power legitimately then having Sith history added to school curriculum or just using propaganda to make the Jedi look like bad guys who were religiously biased. Just come out after a few years of good times and openly state he's a Sith, have the Jedi attempt to arrest him, then have the entire military rightly destroy the Jedi. Since no one had heard of Sith before they would likely fall on Palpatine's side.