Why I Lost 2nd Place in the Championship! BMW S1000RR Engine Failure!
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- This week, we strip down the engine from my BMW S1000RR race bike to show you why it failed at Cadwell Park last year, and, ultimately, stopped me from finishing in second place in the championship.
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This video was awesome
1 Becuase it’s fun watching someone explain something that’s being taken apart
2 because of all the extra technical data not just From the bmw motor aspect but overall like the rpm explanation
its actually mental how good Ricky is with engines. Would be good to see bike videos too, of you setting up your R6 and riding it.
I agree but how does he grasp the difference between so many different engines as there are a lot of differences
He is extremely knowledgeable. I thoroughly enjoy his videos.
Brilliant contents as always. What dawned on me when looking at the s1000rr engine being stripped is that the engineering skill and design expertise will be utterly eradicated once the full switch to electric takes over. These engines are subject to the collective skills and ingenuity of engineers, designers and machinists who develop and test the fruits of their labour so we can ride. All this is lost when transportation is nothing more than glorified milk floats. A real shame and a key part of many people’s lives is brought to an end by politicians promoting a switch to a technology which doesn’t sort the issue in any case. Gutted.
Great video. Loved your comments on the development of the WSB engines, better than anything I've heard off the telly commentary this year.
The suzuki system for VVTI is quite a clever design, it uses ball bearings and centrefuge to adjust cam timing.
I can lend you my Ducati L2 engine if you want to break it down, explain the desmo system and check clearences if you want.......anything to avoid the desmo service cost 😂
Yamaha developed the LFA engine , i guess thats why it can rev out like it does.
Good stuff.
Great lesson about oil temp. In the Trans Am series, we had engine builders that used .0007 main clearance. You couldn't even START those engines without having the oil above 200F.
The thing is that's a road engine, not a race engine. If you look at Motul 300v it has no approvals and just has nonsense about 'beyond approvals'. Use a race oil in a race engine by all means, but that engine is an off the shelf engine. Manufacturers spend hundreds of thousands on oil and engine testing so thinking you know better than them would be a mistake, yet many people do.
@@Hypersonik He Raced it thinking that's a M1000RR, but still its not as reliable as Yamaha R1, Gsx1000rr, or Hayabusa.
@@RohanSanjith I'm sure Ricky knows what he's doing, but it's the speculative guesses as to failure that get us all. I also don't like that 300V has no approvals and that whilst race teams use it, they're teams ion mega budgets only caring about bhp, not the actual real things club racers need to care about (I.e paying for a new engine after you've lunched that one in
This was gold... Really informative and could watch / learn this for days!
Best of luck with the rebuild and please keep us posted
best thing my dad ever did with me was give me a 50 cc moped that was blown and let me pull it apart and put it back together was great fun and taught me a lot
Your old man sounds like a champion. How old were you when he let you do that?
My dad only let me watch and get tools for him until I was 13 or something like that. Lol
Judging by the way that the bearings are progressively worn I think that there is a fundamental inadequacy in the lubrication system that was highlighted by low oil temp.No surprise in a BMW.
I have a different opinion as to why that particular Bearing Failed!
It's because of the added Pressure on that Bearing due to the Timing Chain Pressure, which is located Directly in Front of that Failed Bearing!
One of the best explanations about a bike transmission ever!!
Definitely need to remember to warm up my bike engine before hammering it!
Really enjoyed this one Ricky. I’m no mechanic in the slightest but love my bikes, but nonetheless I really enjoy your channel and the stuff that you do as I can see you don’t cut corners keep up the good work.
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching
I've watched your videos before and loved the detailed engine work and humour.......have subscribed now as I'm a bike nut and thought this video was brilliant 🙂👍😎
As a retired VW/Audi tech and ride a sport bike I enjoyed the bike content.
Awesome content as always and great to see you break down a bike engine.
What a joy that was to watch and particularly listen to. You've just taught me loads. Toprak will be a force 2024 no doubt.
brilliant content, first time i've viewed you channel, found it very interesting, informative and useful, I bet many people are now warming there bikes up slower and more carefully, the old water temp or heat of the exhaust doesnt cut it anymore when dealing with these high performance engines.
I'm always horrified by the number of parts a full engine consists off.
Remember my 100cc 2-stroke air-cooled kart engine and how simple it was.
Add in valves and cams and water cooling and oil cooling and pumps and gearbox and whatnot and the complexity of it shoots off the roof.
Now he has to put it all back together.
It's like building a scale model kit, it's a lot of parts and looks like you have a long road ahead but you get to it and soon enough you put the last piece in.
Great video… I could tinker with a 2 stroke years ago…. but those 4 strokes are mind boggling 😂😂
Ooey! Rikayyyy! Please!? More bike stuff! Havent touched other brands but, apart from the electronics and some other stuff, the basic engine/crankcase looks very similar to my 2003 R1, or is it me, lol?!
Fantastic posting , so much patience and understanding in explaining everything .... I hope he does well in next championship .
Thank you
If the oil isn't reaching temperature and is also unregulated, the quick fix for that is to mount the oil cooler behind the water radiator.
super video. such good explanation of disassembly and what and how bearings failed. esp likes race vs road transmission discussion. well done!
You could put a mass tuned damper in the bars, little weight on a flexy shaft.
Awesome video, wish there was more like it🎉
Apparenty this is a problem on the 1000RR, heard of bearing failure within 1000km... Run your bike in propa, a must on this machine.........
Get ignition coil without metal sleeve . Yes even on the head no metal sleave around ignition coil . This should fix thing but you'll need to clean instal firmare and software
My 2010 blew up at 21000~ miles 2 months after I bought it. Was told the camshaft main bearing or shell (still learning) grinded out. I have yet to open it to confirm so I'll probably do something mechanical for the first time in my life and crack it open with a buddy. There's now a 2013 motor in it and i am going to give up on my dream bike if it blows up again.
The first car that I have had with both water and oil temp is a 997.2 Carrera 2S. Water temp is up to temp within a couple of miles of leaving my house, and the oil temp does not reach operating temperature until double that distance… made me wonder how the hell my bikes in the past have all held together
Surprised it warmed the oil that quickly.
Alfa 155 we used to have had an oil temp gauge. Slow to warm up.
I have an old 206 GTI 180 and it has both oil and water temp’s, and the oil takes at least two to three times the distance to get up to temperature.
In good spirit. I.suspect somethings amiss here. The duration for warming that much oil sounds just too short. Measurmenta of atandalone oil temp and pressure, various 6 cyl bmw.. about 10 12 miles of light driving before 7l of oil is warm. Longer in winter. Longer again if the capacity is 10 to 12l. I wonder how accurate the gauge is? Pressure and temp gauges are normally damped as true fluctuations with load worry most customers, ao the temps may be 'jiggled' to stop worried phone calls.
I should maybe have mentioned that the ambient temperature is around 34C all year round. And traveling 4 miles through town is not a quick process….
learned so much watching this video - what a great presenter too - really fun to listen to. just subbed. thank the youtube gods this came up on my feed today never heard of you guys!
Good to see you doing my bread and butter at my old job😂…. We use a rag and small slide hammer to gently tug the outer cases off, works a treat and doesn’t mark up the case and you’re not levering.
Audio is fine even with the heater running in the back , it doesn't intrude
For sure I can't get my neck "polished " up enough to ask them to spend time in a cold building for my viewing pleasure.
"Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry", great film, with a great car!
Good to see how different bike engines are to car engines
This has given me the motivation to strip my Gen 2 Daytona Engine that destroyed the balance shaft gear earlier this year... think that means, new crank, clutch basket and all the other components that go with an engine build... 😳
Great content. I never ride my bike hard before engine temperature is up and the casing s of engine are hot to touch.
Great show of the gearing.... maybe a dedicated section?
Thanks for sharing! Everyday is a learning day.
See ya on The Mountain Course??
"Knocking shop" not heard that in a while, anyhow thank you both for your time and effort putting this video together.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Super informative video! Where is the crankshaft oil feed on this engine? Perhaps the rod bearing that failed is furthest from the feed?
It is indeed mate
Love it when you play with bike engines.. makes me go all funny😮
Great vlog guys really enjoyed. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
phenomenal video! that bmw is coming back quick!
Amazing to see the bike engine strip. Would main dealerships have the skills and knowledge to carry out this work?
When my bike dropped a valve BMW just replaced the engine under warranty
Probably have the skills and knowledge but whether they would bother is another question.
I have seen main dealers do complete engine strips and rebuild to replace cosmetically corroded engine crankcases.
@@katywalker8322 yup have had corroded casings replaced too
BMW tend to replace engines under warranty to mitigate further problems…. But absolutely do strip engines to find problems….warranty engine cases is a lovely job.
Always a fascinating insight to engines and 70’s mufflers he he, cheers guys, hi to Kate 👍
Thanks for watching. 🥰
Interesting about the Revs not giving any more power cheers Rik loved it good luck in Spain
Thanks 👍
Amazing how compact bike engines are. Great tear down. Is the diagonal channel on the front a water gallery? Does that mean there is different cooling to each cylinder? How long dies it take to fully warm up the oil?
i believe those are oil passages from cylinder head towards engine sump. cheers
Been there done that!😂 S1000RR 3rd, then span a big end bearing. 2020 doesnt look much different bottom end from gen2
love that, what is more enjoyable bike or car engines ? with the way a bike produces power and so compact what is more technical car engines or bike
Fantastic video and thank you for recoding and sharing with us 👍
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Oh yes the Wraith(might have spelt that wrong).... saw it at the flix. For sure I suspect if I were to watch it mow it would look dated, but boy oh boy yes please the "Dodge" is very nice.
It's great to watch these videos, learned a lot about how engines work in this video, thanks mate. Engine stripped super fast with a great explanation. Will we see it go back together?
Top Tec Content! Thanks :)
(and good talk!)
Very good stuff especially to a twat like me who is on his 10th RR (3x thefts 1x write off 2x track). I’ve got Evotech bar ends to counteract vibration. F love them. Great channel.
Interesting strip down 👍 looking at that rod you definitely blu'dit that engine😁
That bearing turned to cheese! Mai gawd.
Really enjoyed watching that, have a good time out in Spain fella 👍🏻 Not jealous at all 🤣
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you.
Great insight, had a s1000r that dropped a valve
Brill vid, love technical vids and bike vids, great channel. Keep it shiny side up in Spain 🇪🇸 💪👍
Thanks you and thanks for watching.
It is also the furthest bearing away from the oil pump.
Great video, the engine looks ace. I do wish Honda would VTEC the FireBlade! Or better still, make it s a V4. Could you get away with changing the one rod only? (I appreciate in a race bike, you would want to do the set)
Yeah, no problem changing just one rod.
@@mikehunt3987 so long as it's within a couple of % the same weighting and general close dimensions as the others in the set.
Love the stuff about bikes ...cars also ..great stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great to see a bike engine video.. 👍
great job lad amazing talent keep up the good work
Thank you very much!
Expensive ouch, suprised about not reusing oil cooler assume flushing would not remove all debris
Was that Kate on your phone😂😂 🔥 m8
For his sake, you’d hope so!!😅
if it wasn't he's in trouble lol
😂😂
Cylinder heads look great for carbon. You should see a rr street bike. Rod bearing is probably starvation .
Excellent very informative thanks
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
I can watch this all day ❤
Thank you
As always, really interesting video. 👏👏👏
Thanks again!
Always love the bike content 👍
Great movie 😊 dodge had the cosi in the prototype
Great video👍I have just done the same to my engine except the rod blew a a big hole in my engine🤯But you said you would not be using the oilcooler again,is that because it can be aluminium shavings inside?
master builder. Great watch.
What did Kate end up with?
A seat ateca 😍
Really interesting. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
Enjoyed the bike engine build
👍🏼 thank you for watching.
Now i know how to rebuild an S1000rr engine, any teams needing an engineer
I wonder if the crankshaft will need ground and balance, was there damage at it on one
1972 Ford Gran Torino in the movie Fear is the Key.
Thanks for more great Content guys!! 👍🏻
You’re welcome. Thank you for watching.
There's a company in the USA that builds M4S Interceptor replicas onto Boxster chassis'
Doesn't say much about BMW if you can wreck the engine by working it hard before the oil is up to temperature, unless of course, it is not stock. Thank you.
More bike stuff is always welcome boys 👏🏻
Ricky seams to be a big jonathan rea fan iv no idea why he has the personality off dirty bath water honestly mate he was killing the championship and he only won it six times because his bike was so much faster than the rest .I'm more off a Toprak fan that guy is on another planet a massive personality his bike skills are insane I think he has replaced Rossi in terms off popularity and I cant wait to see him ride the BMW next season
Carl should host when your away👌
Hola Ricardo, cuando estés en España puedes saludar a Mat Armstrong de mi parte. PD: Disfruto mucho el contenido de motos. M. Marquez 👍
Seems like the s1000rr main failure on most of the videos I've seen is rod bolts coming loose and it looks like the same side, motomillions m1000rr had the same issue but he did tune it too early within break in service.
Never seen loose rod bolts…just main bearings failing normally from oil temp too low.
Anyone experienced a broken tooth from the camshaft? I have on mine but can’t resolve the reason of failure 🧐
No mate never seen that!
Not hot enough oil? Im thinking shite metal in bearing BMW parts made in PRC.
Thanks for the video mate. Are you planning to do assembly one as well?
Yeah we have done a build video!
@@REPerformanceUK ohhh, I missed it then. Sorry for stupid question.
hmmm, I still cannot find the build video on your channel. Could you please be so kind and post link here?
Ah sorry! I thought you were referring to the V10 build. No I’ve not built this one yet!
ufff, good to know, I felt bit retarded that I can not find it😅. However thanks for quick replies and please keep doing what you doing🤜🏻🤛🏻
Interesting stuff. Bike content is good.
Alvaro is definitely as good a rider as Johnny and toprak
Love the bike content
👍🏼
For all things BMW bike have a chat with Phil crowe, I know you are good at what you do but he specialises in s1000 engi especially and bikes be a good video if you joined up on a track day
question for you what stand are you using for the motorcycle engines? been trying to find one that will take my liter bike engine for a minute since I refresh it once a year for racing lol
Loving the bike content. How much do you reckon you’re talking in parts cost v resale value once it’s back together?
With how common this generation BMW is with racers and trackday riders yes it will cost a pretty penny in parts but re sale is probably quite high due to demand, I'm guessing.... 🤔 But if someone was to pay an engine builder to do it and sell it on probably not worth it with labour cost. Lucky Ricky's labour is 'free' to himself. Although still takes time away from other jobs
Yeah these seem to float around 3-5k as good engines.
If I can make a bit back against the repair and replacement engine then it’s better than it being a paperweight like it has been this past year!
These motors are blowing left and right..
Vtec technology on the cam
Admittedly I’m not a bike guy , but I have always admired the quality of the engineering, even aesthetically they are superb ( apart from Harleys 🫣) . Any chance of a looks at the valve train when you return please .
Didn’t think 6K was bad for a full engine and box , compared to a car it’s a bargain. We will be 30 big ones by the time we’ve built our car engine and sequential box etc and that’s with a used standard BMW S58 lump .
On the lookout for a Motec M142 if you have a spare floating around?
I know you are a little hesitant to put bike content up as the stats tell you it's not as popular as your usual output ...... personally, I thought it was fantastic! I was hooked from start to finish.
Clever chap, , 👍