Here's the SAD TRUTH about all of this...
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- Here's the sad truth about my 2024 Mustang GT that is a pretty big let down. The fact Ford won't allow tuning to these Mustangs is a shame but hopefully soon they will so we can see the full potential of the S650 Mustang. E85 tune, 2024 Mustang with a 10R80 would be lethal! #mustang
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Nope, I mean it will happen but its going to be a while sir…..
Ford should, but at the same time I don’t like buying new cars. Past 2014 the only one I would want is the gt350. And I would still daily my 06.
Rather not buy a 2024 for this reason rather get a older gt350
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No they trying to make money! But once they realize nobody buying them they will release the tune.
FedEx driver passed the vibe check 😂
Faccccts shes a G
S550 owner here, I am just happy Ford is still making small block v8s. Chevy discontinued the camaro, dodge discontinued challenger and charger. Outside of the mustang what’s left other than the C8 and caddy? Also keep in mind it took two yrs to crack the C8 . I understand the frustration, but if it keeps the small block around so be it
Im a 650 owner, ordered mine in January and assumed by the time it was shipped the car would be unlocked but April came and i got the car and here we are in June and still no tuning. As time goes on less people will buy them and most of us will get rid of them and grab an S550 or another brand and mod it up. Every mustang before this is unlocked so why bother locking this, your only hurting yourself and will probably be fords downfall. The New GT500 is a bust and no one can afford a GTD. Save yourself Ford dont screw your loyal clientel
Thats the way i see it too man
How is the new GT500 a bust?
Its not just ford and the s650. Most manufacturers are doing the same. Took a year plus on the s58 motor on the new g8x cars from bmw.
The GT 500 is a GT with a Whipple and a body kit. U can make the same car with Performance Pack GT and an extra 10k for the Whipple and maybe 5k for a body kit. But they are charging way over that price point just for the name. If your ok with that then u are the typical "Shelby Guy" that they prey on.
@@Wraith-tu3rithat’s the Shelby super snake, which I agree is a complete waste of money there hasn’t been a s650 gt500 announced yet
Derek what about your garage??? Get’r Done Bro‼️
Hey last June I attended a Ford Engineer seminar (invitation only) where they briefed the fight with the EPA & CAFE government lawyers on the ability to tune and what the Ford engineers did to upgrade the S650 over the S550 Mustang.
First (1) I learned that Ford would have never come out with Gen 4 Coyote engine and the new S650 Mustang had they (Ford) not appeased the government by producing the Mach E Mustang EV. It was the EV Mustang that provided the opportunity for Ford to go build the S650 and Dark Horse to address CAFE numbers overall.
Second (2) Ford stated that they were going to release the ECU/ ECM Encryption to Whipple, RTR, Roush, Ford Performance in September of 2023. Hence we now know about the tune that is provided by Whipple when you buy the SC. Whipple partnered with VMP so that they could still sell SC kits. I believe that this is true now with RTR SC & Ford Performance & Saleen. We need to be patient because I believe the encryption is coming over the next fall/winter.
Hang in there; while you wait do your garage‼️👍👊💪🇺🇸
Yessir!!! We getting locked in
Your FedEx lady is cool as hell lmao.
Right
Can’t believe blucifer got the boot out of the garage🤦🏻♂️
Temp. Waiting on the garage to be done
Not being able to tune the 2024 Mustang GT is why me and my wife never pulled the trigger on one. :/ It's a shame. In agreeance with you.
Seriously dont blame you
Same here man I got impatient and bought a Gen 3 🤣
They are supposed to lock PPL out for the first 2 years.. it's a brand new Gen.. They are already having recalls and I get it from Fords point of view.. It's only been 6 months since they have been out and Ford probably wants to know what's wrong with the cars before they start unlocking them and letting others turn them up.. They have to go through 2 years of recalls before unlocking them.. And for me honestly, I would rather have the whipple with a 93 tune than an NA E85 tune.. I've seen guy's waste $6000/$7000 on long tubes Intakes, airboxes and e85 tunes, all for 100 HP.. And then you have to play with your fuel and always be measuring the E in it.. And worst of all drive around with Blue jugs in your trunk while lying to people, "telling them you only have 89 in the Tank".......... No thanks.... I don't care if it takes me 4/5 years of saving I am getting a Whipple... And Finally Ford is expecting PPL to be smart and not Kill their warranties in the first month of ownership...
Hey, I agree, you should be able to tune your car. To be honest as a Mach 1 owner ford should offer official NA tunes for the mach 1, to comply with the warranty. Thanks for your time in highlighting this issue, I'm 100% with you. "ICE Mach 1" channel 👍🏼
It would be so easy to do too smh
Well said. I can't afford a whipple at the moment but would love to get on E85 and add a cold air intake . Listen up Ford !!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dude RIGHT
I hope they can unlock them soon 😭😭😭
We are in SHAMBLES….
Praying and hoping this video reaches the right people and this content and vlog is much needed! Thanks DBP we stand behind you on this!
Oh don’t forget your garage!
We working on it!!! Haha
so am I able to get longtubes? I'm pretty sure I had to get a tune for my last s550 but I know this is new. Also, how did you make your air intake tubes white?
As a Ford and Chevy boy when it comes to American cars. I think they shouldn’t lock the tunes, it just hurts. It doesn’t help any, I dream to own a 2024 next to my 1970.
its seriously DUMB
Exactly right! I can afford a Whipple but i don't want all that power to keep the car NA and just extract a little more power of what i already have is what i would like to do call me old school 😂😂😂
Right
Man that car is really coming together you’re killing it!!
Ik this probably have nothing to do with the vid, but may I ask what tires size or wheels spec you are running on the mach1 all around. Cuz I recently got my Steeda springs on my Mach
Okay you got a couple options here you can go straight to Ford themselves and see if you can ask them to unlock the ECU and you offer to pay for it or you can find a backyard tuner / mechanic who is willing to buy the technology to unlock the ECU and then I'd recommend taking it to a professional tuner because you're not going to find a tune online
Just recently picked up my own Cali special 2020 GT 10 speed in Oxford white. Love the content on the s650 it is a shame they can’t be tuned. But it seems to be a common theme among all new vehicles sadly. At least ford partnered with whipple for now so you can still make it fast 💨 but definitely agree with you that some sort of NA tune should be made available!
That tune needs to happen asap! They locking the potential soooo bad. The streets gonna bully us and gap us without that extra power!!!!
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Derek, you are right. There are a couple reasons why I don't like the '24s (the dash is one of them) and non-tunability is part of it.
I’m with ya brotha it’s like if you buy a computer and it comes with some apps already but you can’t down load apps for your personal preference its yours you should be able to do what you want like tune your Stang. I think when Ford builds a car it should meet all the requirements but once you buy it you should be able to tune it if that’s what you want to do
I would love to see some suspension mods… Also you make complete sense, Ford is dropping the ball on this as of now..
Its coming!
I agree 1000% but at the same time we should be super happy they are still making the v8s
you’re 100% right, i’m waiting to tune mine too
So would you say it’s even worth it to get the S650 over the S550? Which would you prefer
Mannn, you motivated me to step my car game up, I had a modded 1999 v6, sold it for a 2014 premium with 80k miles completely stock,talked the girl down from 20.1k paid 14k cash and don’t know where start with mods
Dude, you could still get a bunch of content out of it if you go all out on the suspension and chassis. Full steeda package. Drag race k member, toe arms, camber arms, irs lockout kit, irs support bars, sway bars, end Links, coil overs. This is all stuff that would definitely be relatable.
Oh no facts i agree!!!
Please do unlock these units. Just bought a 24 5.0 F150 & wanting to do some basic bolt ons until I get my Whipple.
Stupid question, but cant you track missing apple pros, with your phone?
Just started watching your content after getting my 2020 gt. Solid content bro! Keep it up
Nice man congrats and thanks!!!
Does opening boxes on the hood scratch the car? I have a new C8 and it will scratch just opening the door handle if your fingers are not very smooth.
Car has 10mm PPF thats why i did
i just wanna know what made this coyote so different from the last to where it’s not tuneable besides dual throttle bodies
So sad you can’t tune it without a wipple! You are so right! Apex sounds awesome! Getting paid next week definitely grabbing the 05 shirt!
Hey derek what made you get an aftermarket valved exhaust instead of buying the factory one?
Way better quality!!!
You should do a video on the Mach 1 and insert lights on the grill i been looking for a way to do it😊
D, are u gonna do a tower brace? Also maybe paint the intake manifold area white to match the KandNs
The “hey siri” got me sick asf🤣🤣🤣 love the vids bro per usual 💪🏽
Derek’s once again killing me about next week, legit I can’t wait. As always, great vid again, love the “update” on the dash
Got my s550 thanks to you love the content!
When are you going to put it on a dyno to see what it makes to the tires?
Unfortunately, I don’t think tuning for the 2024s will be available anytime soon. As far as the Whipple calibrations, keep in mind that they’re much more conservative than your aftermarket tuner calibrations. The fact that Whipple can send you a tune after installing their blower on your car, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a “good” tune compared to the Ford tuning juggernauts, such as Lund.
FORSURE FORSURE BUT even a tune thats “by code” to run E85 would be better in every aspect too.
But i agree man, it wont be for a very long time
Exactly what I was thinking. Whipple probably has to follow a certain set of parameters.
But it will eventually be able to be tuned right?
Almost bought a s650 twice went into the dealer and everything the main deal breaker is having to pay way more for less and honestly not being able to change the fuel to run e85 till then I guess il just keep enjoying a full bolt on s550
Hopefully they release tuning soon. Purchased my gen 3 s550 6 months ago because of the new s650 tuning issue. I was looking for purchase a dark horse but I’m leaning towards gt350 now.
i have a darkhorse and i want to do the Whipple but i want any of us to be able to bring it to a tuner and mess with everything are self’s or a tuner i just want the ecu to be unlocked
Since the 24 isnt released in Australia yet im hoping for my sake and urs obviously that tuning is available very soon as im planing on adding a manual dh/gt beside the zl1
Would be SICK
I remember I also bought the bottom of the barrel Mustang because I knew I was going to touch every single inch of that vehicle from the dash to new upholster sometimes it's pointless getting a fully loaded vehicle if you're going to start swapping out tons of parts
Faccccts
The reason Ford did this is probably pandering to the EPA, be mad at ford for bowing down, but also be mad at our government for thinking it has the power to restrict what we do with our cars, especially considering how small the performance car market is, its like a super small niche market (compared to non modified A-B drivers).
Can we please do a turbo build mustang, we’ve got 3 mustangs with blowers planned. I would love to see the new mustang apart of the family have a turbo build, and see what you can do with it! 10:19. Otherwise love the videos, keep it up!
i agree with you as am waiting to tune this bad boy
i js wanted to ask why u always blur out ur speedometer and why u want to cover it up? is it somethin wit youtube?
I know this is kinda weird but what do you think of the GTD Mustang and if they make the rear wing on the GTD for the S650 Mustang would you get it
I want a GTD
Agree with you on the tuning part man. Always thought that was dumb really limits the customization you can do to your own vehicle. Also I have a good feeling the next mustang on the channel will be a 2v👀
I was planning on picking up a Dark Horse after my wife’s car is paid off. To me it makes more sense to unlock tuning for base models that would be doing minor/more affordable mods like cold air intake or exhaust and switching to E85 for the average consumer over the occasional supercharged S650. At this point I would almost rather have a performance pack Mach 1 that has all kinds of aftermarket support over a new model that is still locked.
Might could look into upgrading your ring gear and drive shaft maybe?
Wait so you can run headers without a tune?
As the owner of of 2 SUPER CHARGED cars I have to say you Will love it. 2003 bmw E39m5 600whp/ 2012 Audi A7 500 plus WHP. The are both really fun. You will not regret the supercharger. Trust 👍
Having two s650 and not being able to tune them sucks, i also own a Type R and well ive been playing and modding that for the time being, its gonna be a little bit till lund and such are able to tune them. but keep up the good work, 2004 Cobra again 😁lets goooooooo
Thank you brotha!!!!
I bought my first mustang after finding your content! I would kill to have my first mustang sound like apex. Keep up the good work my dude
Thats sick man!!! Keep at it!
Hey Derek From Down Under in Australia.
You are lucky in the states that you can order your mustang with all the options. I have a Dark Horse on order here in oz for over 6 months and cannot get recaros, appearance pack or the handling package. Ford are not making them in right hand drive with these options. A real bummer here we have to take what we are given oh and only 1000 dark horses coming to Australia i was lucky to get the order in. Love you vids mate. Keep up the great work and spare a thought for us here that only get the scraps from ford.🇦🇺
The lack of an option to build and tune NA is a big reason I don't even think about getting a Mustang newer than a 23. I can't afford to throw 12k on a mod all at once. I can do a small amount once and awhile so the lack of tuning ability takes away from joy i get from modifying my car when I can and how I want
I’m so mad at myself I didn’t get one of those last shirts! I wanted that one the most it was is the coolest yet PS I was cringing like crazy when you opened that box on your hood! lol 😅
When Derek talks, Ford should listen. He has the best Mustang channel and content out there. Come on man! Let’s go!! 🔥🔥
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You are absolutely right he is the best
Big facts!
Finish your Garage, do you plan on getting a lift in the garage
loving the content
Idk if they tunned it from factory but if you throw heads and intake and do a fbo for some reason you get around 100 hp and really opens the car up on a stock tune
Yo Derek I finally joined the mustang gang. I got myself a 5.0 and traded in my rt
Hey Gavin on itsjusta6 done his. You have to find a tuner to unlock it once you do you can do whatever. He running e85 in his. Hit him up ask him. He’d be willing to help you I bet. The dual throttle body’s go away when you a supercharger. Goes into 1 huge throttle body with 2 air filters.
Mannnn plz get a silver new edge with chrome cobra rims mine was totaled out and I always wanted to rebuild it
Can I do a 385 tune with my 2023?
YES FORD LET LUND RACING IN THE DAMN GO FAST BOX!!
Would be wild
DB, you crack me up with the sticky note over the Speed O 😂
I got a decent 96 I'd sell, built motor, nx plate kit, Yada Yada. Probably more than you want to spend...love to see a og sn95 on the channel.
You do retain your warranty with a Whipple and the Whipple tune so that’s a pretty good reason to go that route
You can get up with palm Beach dyno they can tell you how much e85 you can mix in 93 and gain another 30 hp because it will advance the timing so you will make more power check with him
Na i mean REAL REAL tune with a device and all
I grabbed one went with atlas blue space grey recaros 401a pp pe , everything but magnaride. Even the rims , for me new platform I’ll wait but willing to whipple it someday
Congrats man
I was perplexed, how u tune a supercharger not a N/A build? Great video. Thanks Derek
MY THOUGHTS
Which car are you going to sell to get your Whipple supercharger
My buddy has a gen 1 thats bone stock minus a catchcan and exhaust and it eats e85 on no tune… he runs 50/50 mix and it makes a little more power and doesnt sacrifice all the mileage to get it done
9 seconds is still fast asf, in real life it’s rare to run across cars that fast
I put a Supercharger on a 2008 GT Pearl White, CONVERTIBLE, Fake roll bar,and a Rousch Supercharger. Cars have improved so much I have a 2019 S550 Mustang GT with a Rousch True COLD AIR, American Muscle Headers*(Which I never had before) a custom zone pipe and Flowmaster "Outlaw" series PIPES, making the muscle car sound like one! Which one do you think is faster? Forgot the tune for S550 by Muffler& Auto Works in Naples. The 19 is much faster! Don't pay insane prices for a DARK HORSE OR NEW GT. THEY ARE BEGGING TO BUY MY USED '19.
Ay yo, I almost pissed myself for the creator mode with the zero speedo. Coffee damn near came out my nose. 😂😂😂
Im so pumped to get my ‘13/‘14 gt next year! Every time i see my neighbor’s ‘12 gt500, ‘03 Lightning, & 90 Foxbody GT there’s just a puddle of drool 😅🤤
I feel you on ford holding out. But you know what would be a badass shirt an evolution style shirt from blue 2v to apex. Great video though
I agree with you 100% so stupid to pay so much for anything and not be able to fully enjoy it. Btw I can’t wait to see your old family member come back to the channel! 😝🤗
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I wanna see u go with a full drag build. Coyote swapped new edge with some turbskies th400
I'm with you Derek, you should be able to do an NA tune first before spending the big bucks on bigger tune. 😎👍
Makes sense right
Cam the Mach 1 👀👀👀👀
The comps stage 2 that they recommend go good with boost and NA so wouldn’t be a bad idea
💯 agree with your video and comments. I'm on my 3rd Ford Mustang 🐎 which is a NA 2023 Ford Mustang Mach 1 Tremec Manual in Fighter Jet Grey 🩶... American Muscle 💪💪🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲
Hopefully soon being a year or two they broaden their audience for tuning my i say that bc i want to be able to tune my 24 also ;(
Right….
Did I miss a video of the warp on the hellmo
Correct me if I’m wrong but itsjusta6 bought 24 gt and installed a supercharger from leathal performance and it came with a tune why can’t you do that
Smh😂
Thats the whipple my G i am doing that
Hey derrick I think Ford should come out with a N/A tune .it would be amazing..I use to race in the NMRA had an outlaw car..now that is behind me I am in the market to get a mustang gt and I'd love a N/A tune I just spec out a 2024 with a performance pack in the hugger blue metallic and you have inspired me over the years to do so iv been waiting to see what all you do with apex and all the other cars love the content keep it up ....FORD come on get that boy a tune let him be the first he deserves it gl bro
Let’s run my cai exhaust tune gen 3 10 speed vs the s650 only 40 mins from Richmond
I'm with you👍. What's good for the goose is good for the gander & Ford should definitely offer tuning without the purchase of a Supercharger... But now going back to the point of being out of reach for most of your viewers, it's taken me 2 years to do to my 2013 GT Premium 6 speed S197 that you've done to a brand new 2024 GT in less than 2 months. You're already moving faster than most of us 😂 but i dig the 💩 out of mustangs. Of course, you hooked me with the Bluesifer videos, cant wait to get my shirt ☮️
It’s insane you gotta buy a $45,000 car and then another $12,000 to even tune it 😭
Owned my 24 since October, love the car but it’s starting to get boring without anyway to make it a little faster. I’ve already got a whipple f150 so don’t want to do another whipple coyote… Ford needs to fix this
NEW EDGE!!!! I will be here every video if it’s a new edge. I’m here every video anyway tho lol
If the shirts sell out, you should make some Elmo shirts on the next batch. Lol
Sounds like you are calling your viewers a bunch of base model having Mustang owners who can't afford a Whipple. lol. The tuning issue is all EPA related. I'm sure Ford didn't want to do it but was getting pressure from the EPA. We need to take our grievances up with them and ensuring the EPA doesn't over reach and have too much control. This is just the start. Why not do max effort as it sits right now with the Ford tune? Get it to the track and start practicing and working on it and getting the car to perform as it sits. Why does it have to be tuned for you to see what it can do max effort with the Ford tune?