When Everything Goes Wrong - Maserati Quattroporte GTS - PT5
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- In this episode, we go for a very first drive in the high mileage Maserati Quattroporte GTS with a catastrophic ending.
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sreten currently having vietnam flashbacks from alpina b7
Its Alpina all over again 😂
don't sleeve this block haha
You weren't there man - you weren't there
I wonder if the dude on the bike shows up again
I was thinking the same thing...
This is probably the only channel on CZcams that I really relate to, putting so much effort into a car just to find out you didn't fix the problem, that's real life.
Guess you can cancel that AC recharge appointment tomorrow. 😭
Thats $80 towards shipping cost to Outer Mongolia
😂
I was amazed on how you didn't give up on the Alpina. Remember, it's all about what you love doing. If you enjoy this challenge with Italian engineering , go for it. If not, no worries-ditch it. We're not going to judge you for it:)
But BMW does provide more infos, Datasheets, spare parts and better dealerships. On top of that those spare parts are alot cheaper for bimmers and easely avaliable (mostly within a day or two). One thing is shure this is some quality content 👌
@@w12a3d From all the things Sreten has said, BMWs are a LOT easier to get parts for if anything goes on them and no doubt they are much cheaper as well even if you buy genuine. We're very lucky BMW make owning their classic models relatively easy to keep on the road compared to other makes, especially if it is something common like an E30 or E36, most parts are still readily available for these cars even though they've not been made for at least 25 years (30 in the case of the E30)
Yes we will. Nah just kidding 😊✌🏻
@@eoghanobrien6980 I love how much misinformation is out there. BMW has stopped a huge amount of the parts (some vital) for so many of their cars. And it gets worse by the day, please don't give them credit for making classic car ownership easier. God forbid you actually want to buy exterior panels or doors. FFS they've left even their V12 owners to fend for themselves.
When M539 releases a video which is only about 19 minutes long, you know sh*t is about to hit the fan…
Jeah man .. what a teaser !
@@MikeFoxtrot87 😂🤣
😅
Had exactly the same thoughts
One of the most underrated channels on CZcams
On the bright side, at least this Maserati guarantees us content for years.
Indeed, this one will stretch his patience I suspect
Yes, but not so interesting one 😅
I’d be happier for him if he started working on lawnmowers instead. Less heartbreak.
@@DevinFriske 😂
how to tell good and bad news at the same time
That Maserati COC quote was crazy. I am not surprised they are so unsucessful when the mix selling a luxurious item and robbing altogether.
Having a car broken down is one thing, having a car broken down where you just put in a ton of effort: miserable
Not just break down, but lose oil pressure on the first pull and grenade your motor. That's every car guy's worst nightmare
It is miserable becaise it is misseratti...
This is more like mAsserable in this case 😁
miserable
Perhaps its just a rebuild mistake...
You got this man. My nephews and I are sending you all the Italian hands of encouragement we can!
Put that cigarette lighter to good use 🔥🚗😂😂
😂😂😂😂Haha.
Like in the music video of Calle 13.
😂😂
Damn right!
Comment of the day!
I see only one path for how this can evolve... Lots of wrenching, coupled with declines from Maseratti to contribute to the project with parts, through Sreten figuring out how to couple a Fiat Panda block with Maseratti branding, down to the Maseratti CEO taking the fully refurbished car for a spin :)
I am popping the popcorn bags already!
"Turns out it's just two Fiat Panda blocks joined in the middle"
Maserati doesn't even have the parts if he just wants to buy them or certain steps in the repair manual.
Oh no... Looks like the Alpina nightmare all over again. Thoughts and prayers for your engine
Normally I dislike "thoughts and prayers". But this is an Italian engine, it might work.
@@edgar9651"might"
It's an Italian engine, "might" is the best you're ever gonna get
Alpina was a Peace of Cake if we compare it with Maserati.
@@ahmedexplorer6175 not really, if you just wind back the clock to the B7 project, the support from Alpina was non-existent when he was working on the car. And the H1 block was so expensive from the dealer it would have made the project cost prohibitive if he would have gone down that route. And let's not forget, it was the actual Alpina engineering of the engine that killed it in the first place, and would have killed the rebuilt one as well if not for all the modifications that Sreten did that engine. This one had over 300 000 kms on the clock and didn't show any sign of catastrophic engine failure. We'll have to see what happened here but it would be a hell of a coincidence if it happened to just randomly give up 10kms after it was opened for a timing job wouldn't it?
Sure, Sreten had to get parts hauled from unusual and new channels and the schematics and repair manuals might need some eye squinting, but at least he didn't have to re-engineer the basics of the engine itself for this car....
Next time on M539 Restoration, “here is my new Toyota” change the oil… 10 mins later “done with my new Toyota” 😂
Only time we'll ever see a Toyota in this channel will be when MK5 Supras are cheap enough
Even Toyota has been having a tough of major issues with their twin turbo v6.
So quatrobroken I secretly an alpina 😮 oh man my condolences, I can only imagine how frustrated you feel but.. more episodes with it for us 😄. Cheers!
I will give Sreten major props for not blowing a gasket (no pun intended) on cam and taking it in stride. You’re a legend dude. It will be better than new in 2 episodes.
I definitely understood your facial expression. Been there too. You can't put that disappointment in words. All the work and money. I am sorry for your loss
17:37 he already predicted the turn of events. The "HA!" on the forehead was icing on the cake.
Goddamn, sorry it didn't work out, Sreten. It’s a common theme in Maserati, engine failures are a prerequisite. Let’s hope you’re able to get this running without breaking the bank. Thanks for the short, but bittersweet episode. Let’s get back to fixing BMWs, at least with those you know what you're getting into and parts are available for reasonable prices. Take care of yourself and we’ll see you on the next episode, my friend.
BMW parts and reasonable prices... You must be living in another universe 😅
@@EmielWM They’re much more reasonable than the bullshit for this car. It’s all about perspective. 😬🤷🏻♂️
Enough bmws this content is refreshing
@st3althyone Haha true that!
Bmw reliability 😂😂😂😂😂
Respect for showing us the way it is. If it's good or bad.❤
Don't know what to say... sorry man. But at least this is not new for you, you're a seasoned mechanic now. And way more methodical and resourceful than even most professionals.
Italian cars give you lots of emotions, just not the way you expected
I can just tell from how Sreten works on this car that he hates it. There’s no way he’d have left that underneath that dirty on a beemer
No kidding. You can tell he can't wait to be finished with this project.
The new pads going into a dirty caliper said enough for me. 😂
haha, same thought went through my head when I noticed him starting to put the engine compartment back together without being cleaned first.
I honestly didn't hate it, in fact, I just started to enjoy the car. I do hate it now though. :D I cleaned what needed to be cleaned and it was supposed to go to Gyeon later for a full detail. Underside I generally don't clean as it's pointless, unless it's a full restoration. :)
@@M539Restorations Damn, I’m sorry to hear that Sreten. It sucks when a project goes sideways and every which way instead of where you want it to go. Yeah, I also agree on the cleaning the underside part. It’s going to get dirty as soon as you take it out, so what’s the point unless how you stated. Let’s hope we can get you smiling again soon!🥰🥰
I appreciate that you share everything, even when things go wrong. That’s what makes this channel so great.
From 18:09 YES! The issue is fixed to 18:16 is priceless
Aww man this sucks :( Keep pushing!
You may recall I commented on your valve body repair on the X5, being a ZF rebuilder I was impressed at how meticulous you was! One thing I'd note about the ZF5/6/7/8 range...they all have valve bodies incredibly close to the filler plug, which can deceive some people by making them appear "full" when it's actually just being bounced off the valve body whilst being pumped in. I'd reccomend using a fluid pump with an angled bend to fill it, and do so VERY slowly. Another great addition for the ZF range is Lubegaurd Anti shudder fix....That particular ZF range suffers with torque converter judder, so we apply the additive to every surface we do (of which we do A LOT 😅). We aren't fans of "snake oil" additives, but I have to say we've been using the anti shudder for decades now and it really is incredible stuff. It helps PREVENT the common TC shudder but has also helped cure customers cars that are already suffering with the shudder. It's very good stuff.
The "HA" moment is one of the best moments on this channel.
The comeback will be great just like that Ferrari engine 🤜👍
I like that the arrow on the brake pads points in the opposite direction of the spring that holds them in place.
Not gonna lie - Recently I've been more excited about Maserati content than regular BMW stuff. I love BMWs and BMW-related videos but other makes are really refreshing.
Keep up the good work, Streten!
Agreed - it's great to have some variety.
Frustrating tho' that parts are already difficult to source for a car only 11 yrs old - that's one big advantage to the BMWs
@@michaelbarton4787 Good point!
Sreten sitting in the chair at the end thinking ‘Was it really necessary? Like really really necessary to fix this one?’ Good luck my man. You will fight this demon and win. 🙏
He wins first by knowing that it is never worth getting a Maserati. And second win will be when he dumps it. Hopefully running well.
THERE ARE NO GOOD USED ENGINS FOR THESE CARS! Ask all your CZcams friends. They may be represented as good but, they are not! With luck you can find an engine from a rear ended totaled car with only 1000 kilometers on the odometer.
Like most cars from that region of the world, their beauty is skin deep. It is not a German or Japanese machine but it sure looks good.
You are a legend, brate. Can't get enough of your evolution. Admirations!
That refinished steering wheel makes a world of difference. Well done by that guy.
Maseratis have 2 kind of Oil filters. one for wet sump and one for dry sump. if you mix them up it will certainly kill your engine. The difference between those filters are the internal relief valve.
The M156 should only ever have a wet sump, no?
(Unlike the previous M139, with the F136 V8.)
But there are certainly dry sump versions of that specific F154 Twin Turbo V8 - sitting in some Ferraris...
The F154 V8 in Maserati QP M156 only came as wet sump and only has one filter. I ordered a filter with part number for Maserati GTS. F154 in Ferrari is dry sump.
Uncle Rodney came to visit? That's no fun.
@@M539Restorations czcams.com/video/-p0SDwst1Fc/video.html&ab_channel=TopAutoNick
Damn it's the Alpina B7 all over again. Sreten you are truly a mad lad for taking on these projects. As much as I'd like to see you unload it and move on for the sake of your mental health, I already know that just like the B7, you will not let this one beat you.
couldnt imagine a better way to finish off the weekend, cheers streten.
"couldnt imagine a better way to finish off the weekend,"
Only with a broken maserati engine!
Not a good way for Sreten
You know what? That is why i love your content! You show the hard truth if it happens. The Alpina, the E30 and now the Maserati. Other "content creators" only show the shiny good world that everything goes as planned, but not you. I can relate on so many things if such things happen to me. For example: i own a e39 523i from 1996, fixed all of the suspension but i still have a shaking car. I changed the tires, still have a shaking car but its much better. That is the hard truth, you change something and it still can go wrong and that is authentic and i personally like that!
Keep up the great work and maybe we meet each other with both of our E39 on the road or with another car of yours!
This is the first time I've seen sreten not bother to clean while he's there on many bits like the windscreen cowling etc 😂
I noticed the same while watching the video, that proves that Maserati ain’t a BMW. So sorry to see this happen to such a car guy that inputs so much effort in the work he does.
Because it's not being built for him, it's a giveaway / sale car at the end of the process
Yeah, I was wondering what's going on when there was still brake dust on the calipers when he installed the new pads. I get it though, sometimes you just want shit to be done.
You can clearly see hes not enjoying it
Nice cliffhanger Sreten. As always looking forward to the next one. Keep up the good work!
"Boy, that escalated quickly! I mean that really got out of hand fast!"
"I killed an engine with a Trident"
Man I really love your videos and the effort you put in each one of them. The last episode was so nice when you've fixed everything and all seemed alright given the car and its history. The pain of owning an italian car is real but the driving experience is still worth it imho, best regards from an Alfa Romeo owner 😆Stay strong!! 🍀🇮🇹
I was like: yay, new episode! Then I was like "nooo, only 18 minutes?" And finally i was..."oh...oh no..." That sucks with that engine mishap ;/ but it potentially means MORE EPISODES FOR US. PLS don't sell it though...
Hi Sreten! This just happens sometimes with true petrolheads, man. Few years ago when I just started that road with BMW I bought an e39 with m54b25, which was burning oil like a bastard. After awhile, when I've got a taste for BMW a bit I decided to swap a newly refurbished m54b30. It was running like a dream for 5 (seven!) days. Then one day I've got a call from my wife with strange helicopter-like sound from background) She was telling me that the car is running strange, vibrating all over and sounding strange)) Girls, you know) It was DISA flap holder thing, which was sucked into the newly built engine, got caught under the intake valve and tore this valve out, the valve started to fly all over the cylinder and crashed the piston, then the piston crashed the cylinder wall )) The car ran for a few kilometers with such a devastation ) I was completely heartbroken. I layed that night and thought that I either should quit with BMW or I should deep-dive to a completely new level with it) I think you can guess what I've decided! ) That's a part of our life. And without the taste of sorrow sometimes we wouldn't enjoy the full taste of victory when we overcome the challenges we face. Don't be heartbroken too much, man ! It will take its time, but you'll deal with it and will have a nice beer story with a tremendous happy end !
Dinner is ready, a new M539 Restorations upload; life is good
OMG! Can't wait till next Maserati update!!! 👍👍👍
This car must have had oil pressure issues before the auction, can't believe it would just go on the very first power run after a complete service.
i think it was an oil filter related, easy to mix up since this engine has to variants of the same Oil Filter. This video explains it better czcams.com/video/-p0SDwst1Fc/video.htmlsi=VRN3ZAiKKWWQPEWc
@barchilandia Nein, that's the previous generation of the Quattroporte, the current M156 GTS only has one filter option. Roger is probably right, it's unbelievable how quickly it went, but I'm still investigating.
I hope that your brand new rebuild turbos did not grenade themselves due to lack of lubrication. Apart from the knocking sound, I'm hearing a sound that I will associate with an impeller rubbing against the casing. When you find out, maybe give us a spoiler before the next video on what has gone wrong. Best of luck!
@@vladulescuadrian6080 That's rodknock bro
@@MrProSwe Dude he literally said "APART from the knocking sound". Can't you read the whole sentance? Yes this clearly sounds like rodknock, but theres an another sound besides that, which I can hear too.
Interesting about the CoC. I imported a 330d from U.K. to Germany and the CoC was free. I just wrote to BMW UK and it was sent about a week later. Just done the same with a Ford Focus about a month ago - emailed Ford UK Homoligation department and it arrived 3 working days later. 3rd party firms wanted €200+.
If Sreten's imacculate wrenching is not good enough for Maserati I guess that explains why we don't see them much on the road.
It has nothing to do with Sreten or any other mechanic. It's just that they are garbage. This is basically the cheapest expensive car you can get from its generation - made for cheap, priced high. There's even talk that the engines are main line discards from the main brand - tho that's with a pinch of salt only based on a few pictures of broken castings from the factory on new cars.
Quattrobroken got jealous with you for working on bmw's in its presence :D Love the videos.
Oh man, that hit me right in the feels. I know that sinking feeling without spending anything near the time, effort and money you put into this car.
The curse of project Chicago strikes again, this time in Italian
Stret someone may have posted this but i will tell you eny way,,,,when you look at the fuel gauge on the dash look at the tank sign it has an arrow which will tell you which side is the filler cap on the car ,all cars,,it is on all cars great vid
I know you put a lot of money and effort into this, and putting in another engine and overhauling the new engine is good content for the channel.
But there are also times where you could cut your losses and perhaps treat this car more like you treat a Depo headlight.
You know BMW enough to make them sound like an easy maintenance and all goods, but boy when it comes to Maserati... Godspeed mate, I hope you figure it out easy and it oughta be something simple, pray to the engine god
This channel and Mat Armstrong are the best on CZcams 😎
Mat Armstrong is bit too chav for my taste
M539 and Mat Armstrong should never be seen in the same sentence. Streten is a multi-talented, clever, entertaining and all-round likeable guy, whereas Mat Armstrong is a total. . . . . . . . . er.
@@bobfrankish8883 I enjoy both equally
Bruuutal! Looking forward to the tear down and finding EXACTLY what went wrong.
Genuine spaghett moment
not so much unknown to you german car fans too... Toyota fan here!😎
@@YszapHun I drive an italian
@@goxy287 my sincere condolences
The 'even later' was a nice touch, thanks for putting a bit of Dutch in the video Sreten! 😉
Just another episode showing italian cars being italian cars
LOL, especially this Italian POS. Here we thought the Alpina was bad, boy were we wrong. 😂😂
They are just junk
@@sergio_81 Alfa Romeo did good cars till early 80s, then they started making junk as well. The new 2015 -> Giulia is good or so I have heard.
Yup. True that.
A beemer with a comparable engine would grenade itself at half the mileage.
What do you expect from a highly kilometrage sport engine that had probably been mismanaged for a long time? If this car received the same care (but that would have been exceptionally expensive, I suppose) of other BMW restored by Sreten, probably it would have run quite well. The only criticism I would have is Maserati not making readily available parts, which is a shame.
Never nice to see videos like this, especially to such a nice bloke who's a conscientious worker. Fingers crossed that you get it sorted...eventually!
It is times like this that Sretan shows his Main Character quality. You can do it, Sretan.
You can tell Sreten really wasn't into this project because he didn't clean everything the way he normally does.
The rod bearings were like : we do a little bit of trolling🤣🤣
Sounds like rod bearings?
I thought so too. Dirty oil contamination maybe as someone suggest Filters Mixed Up?
I would eat myself up in this situation, Sreten good luck finding an new engine for this piece of art
Auto Brands other then BMW are not kind to you my friend.
At least you didn't sold it already and Ruined you're reputation!!!
Hope you get lots of new patreon as for today the first beer is on me Sreten!
🍺🍻
Similar to the Alpina B7. Lots of troubles but at the end a perfect car emerged. Keep going, do not lose hope and you will be victorious
Damn you Italy 🇮🇹
Ikr 😂
Damn you Dodge
Oh yes, it’s obviously an italian fault…please note and keep in mind that that engine has a lot of miles on his back and that HAS NOT BEEN OPENED for further inspection.
You cannot know what’s going on inside an engine that old. So please stop throwing shit on italian engines and, in general, on italian cars.
That sound at the end of the video ...goosebumps😱
Sheiß eee. Thats a lot of stress for sure. After 1 min of google i found at least visually the same engine for QP GTS for 11000 $.
May i suggest, if every patreon of the 2345 just sent 5 $ to Sreten, we could at least take some of the financial pressure out of the equation for Sreten in this, lets be honest, very time consuming and expensive project as it was/is from the beginning of the journey out of the known BMW world.
If you are with me, like the comment and show some love for our very best BMW restorer out there now. i am really hoping for at least 2345 likes 👍
You were so thorough with everything! I hate how it's giving you issues especially a major one like oil pressure!
I really looked forward to the Maserati project, but by looking at the videos you hate working on it. Maybe better to step away from this one.
I don't, I was actually enjoying learning something new and was thrilled on the first drive which you'll see in the next episode. :)
Please release part 2 tomorrow, the cliff hanger is too great 😂
I only can send you good vibrations because this engine has a bad sound.
Hope you can fix It, never surrender for a problem.
Good luck
I mean. Those cars are pretty but they are kinda garbage 🤣 like even getting them road ready is such a hassle. So Italian...
Fingers crossed and good luck with that project!
18 minutes only??? AFFFFFFFFF we want 2hours episode mannnn
"failure" episodes are the BEST, you will preveal ! and Maserati come on, reach out like Alpina did, che vogliamo essere da meno? forza, facciamo bella figura!
That has to be incredibly demoralizing, even for a person with a super-positive attitude like you. However this isn't the first time bad fortune has come your way, so keep fighting! I'll sure be tuning in to see how this one gets resolved!
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! On the other hand, taking on an Italian car like this really is an extreme sport :D
So sad. All that work you put in.
I feel for you, yes, first thought was an “Alpina Deja vu”.
Don’t know of anyone else who would have taken on that challenge with these Maserati. So I have so much respect for you.
Keep looking forward and stay strong.
16:30 what a beautiful Saab 900, you should buy one of those mr. Sreten.🙈🙃
In one of your previous videos, how you were turning the engine was wrong: This engine is turns in the opposite direction. Its timing chain looks to be in the back of the engine, but that is the "front". You probably made other mistakes earlier. This is a solid engine that should do a lot more than that. A wrong repair can ruin a modern engine quickly.
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
Sorry brother but your loss is my pure joy entertainment!
Best of luck!
Oh no...oh no no knockedy no.
You poor bastard. All that time and effort...Lord knows we've all been there. Always enjoyable watching the Stretmeister work on a car, regardless of the outcome.
I’m accustomed to the BMW content which is most informative and entertaining. The Maserati videos are fantastic though, thank you for the good stuff.
Sorry about that motor too.
Sreten, lo siento muchoooo!!! Tu cara es un poema. Puñeteros coches italianos! Mucho ánimo.
It's all of those small little details that make the pain *that* much worse.
There is nothing more satisfying than working on your BMW and having it run smoothly for years.
My respect for you and your work
Can you give me a advice with my f30 2.0 d n47 when I go on rods the speed decrease for a second or two I will put a link for a video
czcams.com/users/shorts2EGbxYZDMr8?feature=shared
Hey Sreten I'm writing this from Freebirds that * is awesome man thanks for the recommendation!!! ❤ Love your content!!!
Hahah, awesome!
That death rattle at the end from the engine had my face in my hands...🤞🤞 Hope you get it all sorted mate, loving the Channel.
those transmissions are actually pretty okay, they use almost the same one in the new ram 1500 and Grand Cherokee. they're a pain to do a fluid service on since both have the exhaust dead center less than an inch below the drain plug.
Knock, knock.
Who’s there?
It’s us. The rod bearings.
....knock knock.....
- Who is there?
- its me - crankshaft bearing!
This is a trailer compared to usual😂.
So sorry Sreten. I have never seen your expression like that before, such dismay.
Looking forward to your next video!
If there is any silver lining to this, it's that at least this issue occurred now and not when you were selling to someone or even in their ownership as this would spell a bigger headache. Further, at least the issue is very apparent. Sometimes life kicks us down or in this instance it stabs a trident in you but its how we come back from it. I've been having my own battles with my Peugeot 208 GTI and lets say its less fun all the way out here in Australian. Gotta love how things are only built to last 10 years before they start to blow up. Chin up Streten, we all have your back.
This car looks to be da bomb. I do believe it's in the best hands possible, so hopefully it will be a full recovery.
As said the guy in old BMW dealership about the Italian cars : you don't want to step into it... Now truly understand what he was talking about :D
Esso no Bueno!!! We were all looking for the happy ending of the MAS going full throttle on the Bahn...at least you will have more content :)
Looks like a project that will have more episodes than it should :) Fingers crossed for nice, quick, cheap solution and cheers from Czech Republic. ;)
Don' t worry my brother,this month is cursed.......same thing happend to me after major engine job......i dig that look on you face.
@16:29 That SAAB 900 Cabrio tho 🤌
Together with SAAB 9000❤
Because of this video I updated my checklist for every car:
-Compression check
-Oil pressure check
-Head gasket check
All of that was done on this engine and it still failed.
What do you mean under head gasket check? I thought it is covered by compression check
Oh gosh.. I knew it was to good to be true..that it could be all nicely serviced and work perfectly fine in just 4 eps