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Stop Overcomplicating Archery. Traditional Archery Tips & Tricks to Make You a Better Shot.
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2023
- #traditionalbow #stickbow #traditionalarchery #recurvebow #longbow
In this video I go over the fact of the matter that everyone overcomplicates everything, including archery. Simple can be better and you need a shot process that is natural for you.
#feelthespirit #spiritofthewild
Very good to highlight this stuff. Over time I’ve developed two types of shooting. Feather to nose when I practice, and a static hold when I hunt. Feather to nose keeps the targetpanic away, and I dont develope TP with the one shot at a hunt. So I can shoot fast or slow on a hunt, but I always need to practice with the feather to nose. So thats my advice of not complicating things. Shoot straight🏹
I love that feather to nose while practicing as well. That’s why I love a shield cut fletching it seems to hit perfect. Helps keep me way more consistent. Thanks for the feedback!
Peter Juulsgaard got me onto controlled shooting with Joel Turner and Tom Clum, Sr. I've killed five deer in a row and this is after giving up archery for more than 20 years. Thanks, Peter, the best archery hunter on CZcams. :)
Thanks for sharing what you’ve learned through trial and error. Your form is pretty dang awesome! Don’t change a thing.
Dude, this is an excellent video. Just shoot the bow. I heard an instinctive old timer on trad gang say "I never had target panic because I never read about it" and that hit me hard.
I still find myself trying to think to much into it rather than just do what feels natural. Makes me shoot 10x better when I just shoot rather than think to much into it
Yes that's what I've found keep it simple natural for you about the best video I've seen explaining instinctive shooting make it comfortable for you
Not a big hunter here, but love flinging arrows.
Ive struggled with the same stuff that you brought up in the video. Perfect back tenson, perfect release, so on and so forth.
There is a youtuber called tex grebner. I have some mixed feelings about the guy but he said something in one of his videos that really hit home to me. He refered to trad archery as a "martial art". I thought, if i was fighting with this bow, how would i shoot it?
What i came up with is my stance would be much more agressive and i would be much more concerned with my bow arm than i would be with my draw arm.
Once i implemented this mind set and stoped trying to be an olympic archer or something like that, my groups really tightend up.
I used to watch Tex Grebner and his Saturday morning cartoon awesomeness lol. I remember him saying that and although it’s a weird way to put it. It makes a lot of sense.
I love shooting split finger instinctive, when i try to aim i always screw it up lol
Same here. Everytime I shift my focus away from the spot even slightly I have no clue where that arrows going😂
Archers !
Line up your draw arm elbow with the tip of of your arrow to complete your shot sequence.
Draw the string between your eye and your nose. Use a consistent anchor point and pay attention to posts like this one as it is excellent and very helpful! 🏹🏹🏹🦌🦌🦌
Every one thinks there is a solution for everybody. It doesn't work that way. But thanks for your perspective, cause it might work for me. We all need to give our 2 cents, it adds up in the end. Thanks mister.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your trad archery journey. I started shooting about 3 years ago and went down a similar road. I over analyzed and over complicated the entire process. The last year or so I decided to shoot instinctive/split-vision and my accuracy improved tremendously and maybe more importantly I'm having fun! Gap, string walking was a horrible and frustrating experience. I was having zero fun. I love archery now and yes, some days I'm not as sharp but most days I can shoot quite well. I feel now that I can finally start hunting with some confidence, which was my original reason for starting trad archery.
Thank you! That’s awesome! I wish you the best of luck!
Man i am gonna eat your channel up binge watching all this archery tips. Thanks much ❤
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
Howard Hill was left-eye dominant and shot right-handed. Myself, I've found that if I make myself slow down and raise my draw arm elbow, I generally hit what I want. If I don't do that, my shots suck! I think you're on to something with your release. Howard Hill said that upon release, with both hands do nothing. You're doing nothing with your hands and having good success. By the way, I'm also a Jeff Phillips fan. Be blessed and have fun!
Awesome video brother thanks for sharing your journey God Bless!
Thank you! You’ve been one of my favorite mentors for a while! I’ve watched a lot of your videos and your knowledge and love for the good Lord is awesome!
Free your mind, become the arrow.
Amen brother, great video! Us humans love to overcomplicate even the simplistic things! There is no such thing as only one way to get something done. We are all different and have to find out what works best for you as an individual.
I have a lot of injuries to my elbows and shoulders from my old line of work as a pro wrestler and will never be able to straighten my arms out and have perfect form. I even made a video about it called, "Beware of the Form Police"! 😁
Anyway, I think this was a great video ... God bless ya!
I appreciate it! God bless and straight shooting!
Tanks for the beautiful video !! I shot my recurve istintive!!💪
I really encourage you to study Joel Turner or Tom Clum Sr.
I’ve seen a lot of stuff by Joel Turner and Tom Clum. Love them both they are wonderful shooters!
i think what he's saying is all that stuff is NOT helping him.....
All these people that think they have the cure for other people's archery problems. It doesn't work that way. But one thing is for sure, all the combined opinions, gives us plenty of things to try. So ,everyone keep on talking and telling each other what you think and know.
Lol ... Ya had me at live, eat ,sleep ,dream ,bout bows, imagine doing it for 35 years and it never gets old young man, if ya got the bug like that, it just never goes away..i call it chasing perfection, then when ya make the perfect shot, ya just wanta do it again...and again and again, they say nothins perfect and here i am trying to do it every shot inside 20... Forever
It sure is a bug. I find myself wanting to take a break from shooting for a couple days to help give myself not go crazy. Then I find myself for the 3rd time that day going out to shoot😂. I heard a guy call it single player fetch. Just throw the stick go get it and throw it again haha. Explaining it that way makes me wonder why it’s so fun.
@@feelthespiritofthewild 10-4, 52 years old, construction worker in bama, i shoot an hour before i leave for work, have a high roller target in back of truck , usually shoot lil on job site at lunch 😜, then in eves i shoot from time im home til dark, when i shot compound, at dark i just moved to my living room where my paper tune rack is , put archery competition on the tv, and shot perfect holes thru paper couple more hours, when i practice, i shoot 1 arrow, go get it, shoot it again, old timer taught me that in beginning, said shoot 1, go get it, think about what was right with the shot what was wrong with shot, and rest your arms, is how i can shoot for hours and hours without collapsing, creeping,...i can walk a trail thru grass to the dirt in one session 9n the weekend, have to move target around or my yard look like a wagon wheel from the sky 😭...when i hung up the compound i had 9 months to get recurve left right spread to under 2 inches, talk bout grinding, brother theres no telling how many shots in that nine months but bet the bank i was ready come season 😜, keep puttin out vids i keep watching, gonna watch that 8 point vid tonight, of course, after im done shooting, oh yea, on porch for nightimes i have a block with a big mirror behind it, helped cut my transition time tremendously, draw pointing in mirror, so i could watch my draw arm alignment and bow side, its how i developed the path i follow with my draw hand that keeps my draw elbo in line or inside the arrow line for the entire draw cycle, so i h8t anchor then bend at waist and dump that shot into the block at a thumbtack like a treestand shot, if never used a mirror, give ut a try, my favorite indoor range has full length mirrors everywhere
@@terrydewayne I’ll have to try that out I like to set up my phone and record myself in slo mo if I feel I’m messing up.
@@feelthespiritofthewild lol, yea , phones full of vids from my release side, i like to see exact what my hands doing as well , the mirror is great for front view, i find as long as my shoulders are right and i dont let my draw elbo get outside the arrow, i shoot great, if it gets outside and i get that bicep tension, i just cant get ut back without letting down, if i shoot the shot with that bicep and wrist tension, it may not be horrible, but its not gonna hit the x.
@@terrydewayne I tend to find myself moving my bow arm/hand as I release and it cause me to get string slap. The slo mo really helps me figure out what I’m doing. The first 6 years I shot trad I would drop my bow arm 2-3 inches as I released but did it consistently. Even though it didn’t make me a bad shot I wanted to fix it, and now I don’t drop it but I move it some still. It’s seeming to be the hardest thing to overcome.
Yeah I agree 💯, I think its important at first to get all the form stuff down, but like you said the subconscious is a bad mofo!
I want from instinctive split corner of mouth (couldn't hit anything past 25) to now "gapstinctive" three under Olympic style anchor. Once i quit overthinking and just had fun I made massive improvements.
Awesome!! Super glad to hear. I’ve changed to the lower 3 under anchor since this video and I’m really enjoying it.
@@feelthespiritofthewild I seen you mentioned a few other CZcams channels which I watch, another real good channel is Jake Kaminski, he's an Olympic archer with a ton of useful info.
@@billcharlene1450 I’ll check him out! I’m always looking for something to help me get better. Thanks!
On the other hand, there are more than a few trad archers who accept major form errors as long as they do them consistently. Some just don't realize how much better they could shoot. Many don't realize that they are flinching or collapsing on release (two common manifestations of target panic) because there are so many other form errors present. Yes, there is more freedom for personal adaptations in traditional archery than in Olympic archery, but every traditional archery form from every culture with a long history of archery is meticulous about technique. The idea that you should just shoot however works for you is a uniquely modern way of thinking about archery. If that's how you best enjoy archery, I'm not here to say you shouldn't do that, but technique and tradition go hand-in-hand.
Yes, but that’s not the point of the video. I’m not throwing form away. However, everybody is slightly different and some things may not work for people that works for others. Now there is a base of mechanics and form you have to follow. After that however, is when it gets dicey. I was so caught up in “perfect” form that I lost all ability to hit anything, and developed the worst target panic I’ve ever experienced. It was during this period that I also realized I was shooting instinctively anymore, but rather it made me shoot split vision or gap. That’s when i realized if I focus 70% on my form and 30% on the target that instinctive archery couldn’t exist with that mentality. After I developed a little better form, I began to just start shooting instinctively again and the form followed from before. This video was when my form was all messed up because I was trying so hard to chase the so called “perfect” form. Now, I’m a lot better and I don’t even think about anchor, form, or anything other than my bow hand and the target. Some people don’t wanna be told that they have to shoot like everyone else does. There’s a million ways to shoot a bow. Not every culture shot the same bow, or even shot the bows the same way. It’s the same for modern times as well. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Try limb savers if you’re having noise issues?👍🎯🏹🤔😉
You are rite
i agree 100%
I am right handed and left eye dominant also. I shoot rifles and shotguns left handed. But I shoot my bow right handed? , but I look with both eyes and then close my left eye just as i'm getting ready to release the arrow. I shot instinctive all of my life and have won many state championships that way but I've been playing around with learning 3 fingers under and gap here lately. Just trying something new
I enjoy gap shooting, but I tend to get target panic after a while. My accuracy goes away after I shoot for about a month that way
Yeah you right. Seems like youtube has turned archery into golf.
Over the years facebook and CZcams especially have ruined it for some people. They post a video of form or something and all the keyboard warriors tell em they have to do it a certain way or they’re wrong. Just like everything. I’ve had the same thing happen at the gym, guys are telling me if I’m not lifting a certain way or doing too much cardio, etc… I won’t make any progress. Thanks for watching and Happy Shootin!
Great video, if that is an Ausable longbow can you do a review on it ?
Sure is! I’ll make a review soon! I’ve had mine for a few years now, and even taken some game. I could make a pretty in depth review. Be on the lookout! I’ll make that soon!
Nice! Hey is that a bear Montana longbow?
It’s a Bear Ausable. It’s basically a Montana, just has reflex deflex limbs. I love it, and it shoots super smooth. Only con is it’s got some noise, but I can figure out how to silence it somehow.
@@feelthespiritofthewild That's pretty cool! Yeah it's a really good lookin bow two!
@@wpmissourioutdoors7071 I used to watch a guy from Australia. Captain Bowman. He used one towards the end of him making videos, so naturally me being younger I begged my parents to get me one for Christmas and they did lol. The second day I had it strung in my truck because I was coming home from hunting and dropped off the road and flipped the truck in the creek. I jumped out and the first thing I looked for was to make sure the bow was okay.😂 haha
@@feelthespiritofthewild Oh my gosh! 😂 I feel like I would do the exact same thing 😂 That's awesome man, keep posting awesome videos cuz we love em. Thanks 🙏
@@wpmissourioutdoors7071 I really appreciate your support! It means the world to me!
Hey, what bow do you shoot?
In that video that’s a Bear AuSable longbow. Now I’ve got a Bear Mag Takedown. Both are super sweet bows. The AuSable is super smooth and quiet if you get a good string for it. It’s also as fast as some recurves I’ve shot.
@@feelthespiritofthewild I bought a hoyt satori are those nice?
@@Camlynn0503 never had one, but I’ve heard nothing but good things. I’ve shot one and it shot nice. It’s a very high end bow. I’ve never heard anything negative about them, and know quite a few people that own one.
I do know.
I do know what causes Freezing! But I'm not getting in to that today The best instjnctive archer I ever knew was left eye dominent and they say Howard Hill was left eye dominent and Fred Bear shot lefty but was right eye dominent!!! How about that! Really good video good info too! "Lefty"
@@johnbottone4996 thank you! I appreciate the feedback!
Your release is moving forward soon you’ll be collapsing. Your teaching the road to Target Panic. Your subconscious will keep taking over & your shot will get faster & faster to the point of no return. Do let down drills draw & hold & let down. I mean no disrespect but everything in this video is horrible advice.
I understand where you’re coming from. I struggled with that for a while, but it was from shooting a 55# bow when I was 13 cause that’s all I had to shoot. I developed a lot of bad habits. I have changed my shot process a bit since I uploaded this video. I typically draw and count to 3 before I let myself release so it gives me more time to focus on where I want to hit. I do like to draw count to 5 and let down and do that it helps me to not collapse while I’m shooting till I get this new process down. However, the premise of the video isn’t to do what I do, but rather do what just seems right. If it’s more comfortable to draw back and pull through with your back that’s totally fine. It just doesn’t work for me. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the feedback. Straight shooting!
All this never found the animal stuff. You better stop hunting. If you let a wounded animal go, I have NO respect.
I agree with you. However, I don’t agree with your easement of assumptions when you have no context. If you could be there as I grid searched for seven hours to find the doe, or be there the three plus miles my dad and I tracked the bear on our hands and knees through brush as blood slowly stopped, even the sleepless nights thinking about what I could’ve done differently. You would change your mind. However I respect your opinion and wish you straight shooting! God Bless!
Internet bro they're all perfect and can critique the shit out of you. Don't pay attention to em
If you bow hunt, it happens. I don't care who you are or what you say. If you tell me you bow hunt regularly and have never lost an animal, you are a lying.
@@briargoatkilla Nope, not me....I hunted in the early 80s and wouldn't take a shot if I wasn't absolutely sure of making a kill shot. I passed up lots. I worked with guys that hunted with firearms who said, "Shoot, I must have missed cuz it didn't go down" . Same thing.
@@CaptainVillanueva1 Nope, I was typing from experience. If you can't make a kill shot, don't.