Chris Cahill on Nicole McKee’s Firearms Reform
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- Michael Laws talks to the NZ Police Association President Chris Cahill about Nicole McKee’s firearms reform.
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Its already illegal to supply firearms to non license holders.....
But that doesn't stop straw buying. And thats the key issue here.
@toshadavinci5379 no its not. That's just what they want you to think. Gangs mostly get their guns through theft and overwhelmingly through the ports. And they can also manufacture them. Straw buying is miniscule. It's a lie they tell you to get you to support authoritarianism. If straw buying actually was a problem, it would be the result of incompetent licensing. Because only the fit and proper have licenses, as currently determined by the police. FAL holders value their licenses and would not jeopardize their license by doing that. Only extremely rare cases exist and do not constitute a problem significant enough to legitimize the idea of such dangerous authoritarian measures. This is government overreach which can be traced all the way back to the UN and other globalist organisations. Cahill is just a 7seful idiot push8ng an agenda he doesn't understand because the police are inherently bullies that want all the power.
Police issued a license to Tarrant then the commissioner gets a knighthood. Figure that out
And they granted him a license without doing their due diligence required under the previous laws. Had they done that, the Christchurch shooting would never have happened.
Take a look back.... Aderns lot used the Knight & Dame hoods as a cloak of protection, ie Ashliegh's been Knighted so he CAN"T have knowingly lied 🤔🤔🤔
..back in the 1980s the NZ Army sold its 308 SLRs to the public, Anyone with an A class license could by one..
@@geofflewis8599 with bayonets ?
@@PharCanal_007 ..don't know but a more powerful weapon than AR15s or AKs..
Yeah, and who trusts their name and address on this registrar?!
Not me
Who has access to it. Crooked cops. Hackers. Incompetence. Barely a month goes by & some database is compromised. Last few years at least 3 cops have been sacked for selling data. The customs top guy has indicated so call "Clean skins" are actively joining all facets of security forces for that very reason of being inside in order to use that position.
which is better the risk or mass murders?
Is there a connection?
@@courtneyyates120 The Canadian registry was hacked-into over 300 times, and information on ownerscand firearms downloaded. Nothing is secure these days.
If the issue is licensed firearms owners selling firearms to criminals then the issue is the vetting process. A register will do nothing for safety.
The register is just be a prelude to a full-on forceful confiscation at the tyrannical governments whim.
Never has and never will.
A registry will curtail straw buying
Can you explain what you mean?@@toshadavinci5379
@@toshadavinci5379 You are obsessed with "straw buying" aren't you ....and if your home is burgled ? ...Truck or Car broken into ? Your mindset suggests you would say "well fine the Home/Gun owner" for blah blah blah.
The problem is and indeed started with incompetence from the Police did it not ? Even today there is still a massive problem with Police incompetence, they should address this before anything.
His union was silent when the Ardern government changed the rules within 3 days of announcing the changes.
Mathew Hunt was killed with a semi automatic 6 months after the gun buy back ended.
The same buyback where the Police sat down for coffee with the Mongrel Mob asking them to please hand the guns in, while threatening license holders with a minimum 5 years in prison for not obliging.
They been super quiet about his murder
Exactly.
And that is what pisses a lot of us off. The Mongrel Mob have more rights than me all because I am a licensed firearms owner.
Yes it is all just a laughable joke, thank god Labour is gone a long with that stupid show pony Ardern.
And the Mob told the Police No, what a joke
Cahill was hell bent on excluding LFO's during the initial consultation over restricting firearms, and certain categories of firearms.
Tarrant was an Australian tourist who the police gave a licence. He was reported several times but strangely even our SS weren’t interested. The poster boy of de-arming the population would be able to buy and sell firearms even with the proposed register. It’s going to be a gang shopping list.
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The NZ Govt doesn't have a good record at safeguarding private information, so a registry will be disastrous.
The public decide what they want from their government and police force. YOU don't get to choose policy, you enforce it. That's the job of Police. If you don't like it you know what to do mate, no tears will be shed.
McKee is a list MP she was not voted in
No one seems to be talking about how firearms registration over seas in the last 30 years has been an expensive failure.
The ChCh massacre is totally on the police.
Aromoana massacre would not have been stopped by a firearms register.
It failed in NZ as well and was discontinued in 1980
@@saxdearing3395 yes, if there is a failed government policy in the world NZ will take it and give it a go just to prove it’s a failure.
Got no time for Cahill. Bleating about not being included in consultation. Quarter of a million lawful firearms owners wern't when they created this mess.
Exactly right.
"We weren't involved ? Cahill is just upset at the rather large amount of money he is missing out on by attending these meetings 🙂
Full support for Cahill . A firearms registry is common sense
@@toshadavinci5379 For a start do you own or know anything about firearms or are you just an ignorant bleater? I'm assuming the latter. The first issue here is that many lawful firearms owners feel they have been treated very badly in the apparent attempt to disguise the past failures of Police and the last Labour Govt after the Mosque shooting. Instead of getting the firearms community on board with new laws the likes of Cahill interacting with disgraced Police Minister Nash and mainstream media scapegoated us. We want future firearms laws that work. The fist step to achieving this is to rebuild trust. That wont be achieved by having Cahill involved.
@@bobboardman1156 How far back do you want to go -Paula Bennet who f ed it up, or further back to Aromoana . My mate was first on the ground for the STG . You are clueless just a hick who has had his toys confiscated -boo hoo
Waiting for Chris to balls up and get together and have a debate with COLFO. Because I have no faith in him being able to win because his emotive arguments wont cut it.
he has and he won
@@toshadavinci5379 no, he hasnt, and didnt.
@@ryanc9241 he has gone head to head with Mckee who is re of COLFO
@@toshadavinci5379 was this when he got a talking to in the select committee? give us a link.
This whole thing, is Cahill just throwing a Tantrum that he and his police cronies, no longer have the monopoly on opinions on firearms laws.
That’s right, his Labour Party crutch has been kicked out from under him.
Nicole gets a ✅ from me. Why would she want more advice from this bloke who has entrenched views and a sense of entitlement that gives no credence to common man that wants to live in a free country. When he starts worrying about two tier policing in NZ, he might gain some credibility.
Maybe he should have been asked why parlement was mislead into believing it was the law and not a police error
He didn’t have an issue last time when groups were excluded
Oh yes Chris it is frustrating when you are not included in consultation just like you did to us in 2019, I think you have had a fair go already don't you? Also Chris you forgot to mention all those gang members you provided with firearms licenses, a bit rich claiming its licensed people when you did that. The shooting up north the cops knew he was armed without a license he even had a range on his land. Cops were also warned about Grey, again did nothing. I would love to interview you Chris you lying PO excrement I could call you out all day
why dont you do an interview on platform?...i'd be interested in what you have to say 🤷🏻♂️
That was interesting. Cahill didn't blatantly lie as much as he normally does around this issue. As for his gripe about not being at the front of the consultation que, we need to remember the absolute contempt that he had for the 250,000 licensed firearms owners in NZ in 2019, who did nothing wrong, but had their rights and 'fair consultation' denied and trampled on, while being publicly scape-goated for the failings of the NZ Police and the Labour Govt, who had allowed the Christchurch shooting/massacre to occur, and were directly responsible for it. Cahill is a Labour party tool. His personal attacks and slights against Nicole McKee are truly pathetic and childish. It's no wonder that he is despised by so many serving NZ Police officers, who are embarrassed to have him as their union rep.
Why do they vote for him. I think a lot of newer cops have been taught to hate the firearms community by the likes of Cahill. It certainly feels like the hate that community.
Well said.
@@deanmaisey3460 he's probably lying less because with a change of government his old utterly careless attitude is coming back to haunt him.
A union rep isn't going to get a seat at the table with a National/Act govt.
Old Cahill is one of the reasons we have a National/Act govt.
Cahill is just a tool, not labour not nat - just a tool. He is full of ......
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The police vetting system failed. Lawful gun owners paid for that. When I was in the police, Chris Cahill never impressed me. From the safety of his office , he made it very clear he doesn’t want police to be armed.
When I worked on my own at night, away from back-up, my Glock was my assurance that I would have a chance of winning if things went south.
I routinely wore it, against policy. Most of the public never noticed or didn’t care.
Australian police don’t have half the problem with coming up against firearms or other weapons because they have immediate access to them. Crims know that.
I have little respect for Cahill’s opinion on this issue and totally agree with previous posted comment.
Good fore you more police or ex police should speak up against this clown and maybe NZ can send him packing.
Police also hand out the residential addresses of licensed firearms holders to all and sundry completely incompetent
If someone wants a semi auto fire arm they will always be able to get one regardless of what the laws are
Two points.
1. The Police HAVE NOT publicly taken ownership of the licence being given to Tarrant.
2 The Police as part of their vetting process visit every firearm owner and photograph their storage options. So the Police DO know who the legal firearms owners are and where they are. The registry will not change this for those who ILLEGALLY possess firearms.
They are not assault rifles…
Yes the left woke gun hatter’s love referring to them as assault rifle’s 😂.
As an NZ police assn member, this man is an embarrassment, he lies and has been exposed so many times his credibility is so questionable.
He bleats on about McKee being a gun lobbyist when he is a anti gun lobbyist. Perhaps if he tried as hard negotiating the Police pay round as he does with his anti gun lobby agenda his popularity with assn members may? improve.
Many Police despise him for this stance alone.
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He is just there for his own agenda, and the pay packet, he is just a Labourer party patsy.
Reality, an armed citizenry, politicians behave and listen to the voters and criminals are less likely to commit crimes. An unarmed citizenry and look at what is happening now.
90-95% of shipping containers enter NZ get NO formal inspection, or Xray. How easy is it for the crims to throw a few gats into the containers, along with the Meth????? Easy I suspect. Cahill's default setting that crims get firearms off legal firearms owners was patently shown to be incorrect in an ACT OIA, that showed that Police had NO IDEA where the vast majority of firearms removed from crims came from.
Would he accept her decision if he was consulted?
Who cares what he think’s I am clad that Nicole isn’t consulting him, who does he think he is😂.
Why is know one asking why the police didn't do anything when they were told month's before about his actions just like David Gray the police inaction lead to this they had the laws to size their guns
Yes it almost look’s like a set up to try and take everyone guns not just the semi’s.
Crime is not getting kinder or going down. You have no right and no means to defend life and property.
Hold on, why do you refer to them as weapons! They are FIREARMS! They are not weapons in this country, they are tools we use.
His personal attacks on Nicole are totally out of order
Um yeah Nah -shes a NRA schill
I wonder who the 'we' is that he refers to? He is a union representative. His opinion is of no more value than the opinion of the shop steward down the road at the Pak n Save. If there is to be consultation on behalf of the police, it should AND WILL be with the Police.
Yes I no he is laughable.
If the driver of a car does something stupid and causes an accident, then it is that driver at fault. You don't blame the car do you. So therefore the same rule applies to the firearm.
If you buy 2 cars you have to register both
@@toshadavinci5379 that is because each vehicle uses the road.
@@ContentGrazingCows-ns4zr 2 guns can kill many people
No, it is the person using it that is. A firearm doesn't have a mind of its own.
@@ContentGrazingCows-ns4zr neither does a car
I love how ignorant Cahill is. He goes on about how if semi auto centrefires had been banned, that Tarrant would not have been able to do the mass shooting. Yet he fails to understand that if the police had done their job, he wouldn't have gotten them in the first place. The problem clearly wasn't the firearms used, but the police.
He could have used something else it still would have occurred.
That’s right he could have gone in there with weed spayed full of petrol and caused as much damage, so do we ban petrol and weed sprayer’s I think not.
100% Correct , No one lost there job over that either or even demoted.... but once again the Public was punished due to the incompetence of a Public Servant.
I notice that the Union guy raised Aramoana. The police were supposed to vette all the licenced firearm users back then, and started alphabetically. They didn’t get past the letter B, let alone to get to David Gray. What a wicked Wally.
Also people had reported Gray to the police for threatening behavior that should've seen his firearms confiscated but police took no action.
If canada cant do it what makes nz gov think they can....
If you get caught in possession or selling firearms illegally 10 - 20 years mandatory prison.
I'm an Ex-cop and the Police Union (Association) are no different to Teachers Unions, taking a cut of my pay for the Union itself. If you wanna talk to Cops, talk to the Cops themselves, not Political wannabees like Unions..
He and the police union can put in their input to the bill along with the rest of the public.
But he thinks he is special.
I'd like to know why certain documents and information needs to be sealed for decades, away from the public, post the Enquiry into the March 15th attacks. Open and transparent information is needed to be available, and not hidden for some reason.
I don't like or trust this guy.
I dont trust Mckee
Get rid of these current laws and get the ones Nicole McKee is introducing , and make sure that Labour never gets back in, and screw over responsible licenced firearms owners again.
Nasty little control freak.
Is Nicole not dealing with the NZ Police....nuf said!
People with evil intent don't usually commit crimes with registered weapons. Handguns, illegal here, are smuggled into the country. Earlier, in New Zealand, both .22 rifles and Shotguns could be bought and used without being registered. There were provisions made to allow registered firearms collectors to own guns otherwise denied to the general public. The other alternative, is to adopt similar laws to those of the US where a convenient misreading of the second ammendment to the right to bare arms and open carry means that there is little protection for citizens against harm by eachother. There are far more critical matters that need addressing by ourselves and our governments that continue to fail us as special interest groups are rewarded and the general public disregarded from lack of political and corporate influence.
A register will only make prosecution easier, which is good. However it will have little effect on criminals obtaining firearms.
"Hard cases make bad laws."
After Aromoana, Police did ban Military Style Weapons (MSSA). To own one you needed an E Cat License, a good reason to own it, it is registered and inspected every year. A retailer found a loophole in the definition i.e. free standing pistol grip and started selling this style of weapon to the masses. It was laziness of the police to get this policy changed/loophole closed. Another failure that lead to the situation we are now in.
Sounds like a great way for criminals to get a shopping list for guns. Where you live and what you got
It is quite ironic that Chris Cahill is crying about the lack of consultation considering that in 2019, he supported the rushed three-day select committee process that shut out so many voices of affected NewZealanders.
Exactly funny how he forgot to mention that😮.
I can't listen to this guy any longer
NZ Police have never taken responsibly or been held to account for not following there own procedures and giving Tarrant a FAL, ever since that event lawful firearms owners have born the brunt, Cahill constantly misleads and lies for his own agenda, was quite happy when we weren’t consulted the first time and whinging now that we will be! Nicole is at least a voice of reason
maybe if people in nz were able to view the whole shooting in detail via the video ,the may well have a totally different view on what actually took place
So your main issue is, that the police doesn’t know what to expect behind closed doors….. that’s a good thing, is it not?
So if police followed their own procedures ...... ?
We need the guns to protect ourselves from the Government and Leos that do not work for the citizens, but for the WEF. We dont need permission. We need good old fashioned Police, that were respected in the community. Not this Gestapo gotcha Politics crap. When the society resets....one would need to be on the side of the citizens. We would need the Police, protecting us more than ever before. Its time to choose that side.
Cahill telling lies he can't back up.time and.time again
I will be more inclined to listen to his viewpoint after appropiate convictions are recorded for gross negligence which resulted in the death of 51 people.
Didn’t the old register get stolen. That would be a criminal road map.
COLFO can cry river -Public safety is number 1 -END OF
Like gets like …one side can? The other can not…grow some Mr Cahill
Except you really can't deal with the register online. You have to ring them up to do almost everything. Stop lying Chris.
Ban vehicles, hammers and crowbars. In China, chef knives are attached to benches with a chain or steel wire. Sounds ridiculous but that's what such regimes do. The UK is halfway there.
Chris , your father knows my WILL
This is the WAY 🙏
Thanks, The Platform, for discussing topics like you do.
- I am a hunter, target shooter and a licensed firearms owner.
- While there have been times in history when armed people used firearms for the good of the majority, talking about needing them for defence and for keeping the government in check is unwise. Think about what vigilante-ism or a civil war or the breakdown of society would look like. Firearms owners should speak responsibly and use more plausible and acceptable reasons for owning firearms. Many people who have not grown up with firearms may fear them... People who have never been involved with farming or who don't eat meat may think that firearms are evil and unnecessary. Firearms owners can help 'normalise' the concept of firearms by encouraging people to participate in shooting events. And hunters (as many already do) can share their harvest with friends and neighbours. Hunting enables us to eat organic, free-range meat and it helps with animal control in a county where there are no significant natural predators. As a pensioner, having a steady supply of game meat enables us to eat well and save money.
- Registration must help in the effort to reduce gun crime and it helps to provide clear evidence of where a firearm came from. But it will never eliminate robbery, intimidation, violence and murder. And we have to ask whether it is worth spending a significant portion of our limited tax pool on a system that will never have every firearm registered. If firearm registration is regarded as the answer to reducing violent crime, then maybe we should also register kitchen knives, baseball bats, rocks, alcohol and drugs.
- I don't know mr Cahill. However with my experience of unions, I'm inclined to think that unions exist more for the benefit of the union organisation, its employees and the political party/philosophy they may be aligned with. My favourite union is The Taxpayers Union; they really seem to work for the benefit of taxpayers.
- Penalties for deliberately supplying firearms to unlicensed people, and for committing crimes with firearms, should be harsh and quickly applied.
- I think Nicole McKee has plenty of common sense and she is trying to do the right thing, and she possibly has better ideas for the way in which OUR money should be spent.
Well Said,
It didn’t work the first time round because some people? Couldn’t handle the work load…bullshit Mr Cahill
I don’t have to register a car unless I want to drive it on a public road and I don’t even have to have a license to own one so the comparison between cars and firearms is a non point.
The main problem i have with a registry is it gets used for political purposes and confiscation.
like what happened in Australia as LFO has a big collection and some big guns. It hits the news and politicians start asking why someone needs this, then they consult the registry, find out how many there are and ban them. Just because...
I purchased my first fire arm in 1958 I had to take to the police station it was registered and was given a copy of the the registration,one proviso if I was to take it out of the area I had to inform the police,as a side note I took it up north carried openly in the train.next was a gun licence all that was needed was a secure place to hold it,license has a 10 yr life,like many others ten yrs had gone and being good kiwi went to renew but told full cost would be required,so sold all the weapons.go back to 1958.
Great interview. Greasy guest tho
Assault rifles are fully automatic semi automatics are not assault rifles
Answer - because Cahill’s making shit up… again…
Own the guy Michael, don’t pander to Cayhill’s it’s ’ghost’ sellers illusion. Ask the most relevant question - if licensed ‘ghost’ sellers are the problem, then why don’t police look at the gun shop books? Even without a ‘gun register’ all licensed dealers must record the serial number etc of even firearm sold, now, even without a register. So if Cahill is so concerned about these so called ‘licensed ghost buyers/sellers’ then just ask the dealers for the info! It’s already there! No need for a national register! Durr!
The police have failed , give the job to a private contractor who is competent in this area.
Pistols- ( both B Cat and C Cat)have ALWAYS been registered since 1970.
So there must never have been a crime committed with a pistol since then?Yeah, right.
Why is the union having a say, the police have already had there consultation, who's running the police, the commissioner or the union
why are police talking about firearms laws..? conflict of interest much? they are there to enforce the laws that we the people write not write them themselves, jeez the arrogance this guy
interesting to see Chris has forgotten to mention that within the previous regime it had a quantity or gang associates being granted firearms license even though their gang affiliations were known... question has to be asked, how is someone considered to be of fit and appropriate character to own firearms when they are a known associate of a criminal organisation?....
and if semiautos being owned by firearms license holders are so bad, then why are the police okay with appropriately licensed pistol owners owning large calibre, high capacity magazine feed semi auto pistols purely for sports shooting purposes... remembering that the police previously said, sports shooting, is not an appropriate reason to own a semi automatic firearm.... but.... hm
Hegallian Dialectic. Create Problem. Get public to react and call for the preplanned solution.
Cahill misleadingly using the term assault rifle constantly.. does this mean he is lying? or simply not knowing what he is talking about?
Registery does not give me confidence when purchasing.
Sound fare, can that data be protected?, so it does not get in to the hands of the criminals?
A couple of points to challenge Cahill's misleading comments.
1) Every legal firearm imported into NZ is already tracked by make, model, calibre, serial number. By law, every importer must apply for an import permit for every firearm imported. Every importer must track the distribution of the firearm to each dealer, again, every detail of the firearm is recorded in a firearms register. When the retail dealer sells a firearm, all details including serial number, owner's name and address are recorded in a register that the dealer is legally bound to maintain. The registers held by firearm dealers and importers must be made available to the Police upon request. This system forms a de-facto registration system which has, and does work successfully.
2) Regarding semi-automatic firearms, 25 years ago, I wrote to Ron Mark who was then in government and pointed out the loophole surrounding large capacity magazines being able to be purchased without a suitably endorsed firearm licence. I suggested that a simple legislation change requiring a firearm licence of the appropriate category to purchase magazines would help prevent someone with an A cat firearm converting it easily to E category. However, I received no acknowledgement or reply.
3) Tarrant received a firearm licence within a month of arriving in NZ, also, his referees did not know him personally, only through on-line gaming.
4) Tarrant applied for and received a Mail order sale of Firearms and Ammunition permit (form 43a) to purchase 2,500 rounds of ammunition.
4) Tarrant had explosives in his vehicle which he was intending to detonate in his hate attack.
Facts that I am sure Cahill is well aware of, but he keeps on pushing his anti-gun agenda. Talk to many front-line cops, they find Cahill an embarrassment. Let's not forget he is only a union representative, not an official NZ Police spokesperson. One would almost begin to believe he thinks he is the Police Commissioner.
1) That would only apply in the case you suggested. But when they are on-sold many times, from person to person where no track is required, their location becomes murky.
2) It wasnt illegal to fit high capacity magazines to bolt actions and other non semi's Therefore no endorsement needed.
@adrianmotet5083 Agreed on both points, but it was the government of the time and the Police who changed the law to allow such sale, not the industry. However, there is still a requirement for private sellers to ensure the firearm is sold to a person holding a current firearm licence. And contrary to Cahill's assertions, a registry has never aided in tracking/tracing stolen firearms. And with 15,000 km's of coastline there is little difficulty bringing in black market firearms along with drugs. Do you really believe that registration and bans on certain firearm classes will prevent another terrorist or mentally ill person from committing mass murder?
just another american democratic move
Cahill demonstrating how the ruling class view you.
The police has a data base of firearms in this country so why is a register needed
Why do/would people need more than a hunting rifle
Cahill is a union leader and lies at every twist and turn on firearm matters and continues to lie even when the facts are thrown in his face. Whatever gives him the impression he should be treated any differently to a normal member of the public?
Even in this interview he has lied about where the criminals get their guns. The vast majority of guns the criminals have have never been in the legal pool, therefore would never have seen the registry, and the vast majority of illegal guns never will.
Laws and registries will only ever affect the lawful owners, and that's why the hundreds of millions it took to set up and the tens of millions to run the registry are completely wasted when it should have been spent to fight crime and take the illegal guns off our streets.
It is simple common sense, common sense Cahill and police chief Coster sadly lack and the firearm crime statistics sadly reflect that.
"they've been able to identify criminals getting firearms from firearms licence holders because of the information in the registry"........ Um Chris..... Do you SERIOUSLY think a firearms licence holder who gives firearms to criminals will be the sort of person who would add that firearms details into the firearms registry against his name prior?? Come on you clown
My long comment was deleted. Platform censorship...
It's the YT algorithms, GOOGLE USA violations against Humanity....not The Platforms....this is an American server based platform. Being on it, we have to accept we we will be violated. It's the American way... unfortunately.
It’s utube not the platform.
Ironically, semi automatic shotguns are not restricted, imagine what someone can do with one of those. Isn't that just plane hipocrasy.
Yes they are at the moment,but hopefully thing’s might change.
The firearms groups have many concerns ,
Until that process is done ,
Then you will get your say ,
What's wrong with that ?
Unless you wish to sway each groups direction and it concerns mmmmh !?🤔
It a no brainer SON !
92 years ago you didn't need a licence , or were you vested by authorities !
NOTE : police lobbied govern - ment to allow easier access to firearms licences eg: +Tarrant )
And was given under ardern !!
Remember STANLEY GREY !!?🤔
And why he did what he did !
Also Remember : when drug dealers order drugs ,
They order weapons (FACT)
Plus as we all know if you want a firearm illegally ,
Rob a Cop !?
FACT:
New Zealand HAS A UNAUTHORISED MILITIA !
Which was once Authorised by the NZRA !
Named Specifically after returned S.A.S Combatants
Of a Certain Time Period !😛😛😛🙏
It was Deemed at that time of construction by those willing to defend the NATION against foreign invaders or from a Tyrannus govern- ment that
Would ENDANGER the Stability and care of The WILL OF PEOPLE by extremist or communist , Religious and or ALL Others TO THE DEATH IF NECESSARY !😛😛😛😎🎱
The moment we were asked to register our names and addresses ,
THE WHOLE IDEA and CONCEPT ENDED !!!
Think People ?
Why ?
Did WE DO THAT ?
Hint : because a Tyrannus govern- ment would know who we were FFS !!!🤔🤨😡
The NAME THAT WAS GIVEN in derogatory hindsight was" 1st HUNTERS" !!🙏⚔️⚖️🛡️🕊️🗡️♾️
Note : 1st Hunters is still a thing !?🤔
Well the concept is that is 🙏
Now WE ARE MANY with many different names ,
Only the Generals know there closest neighbours
And the CONCEPT LIVES ON WITH THE CHILDREN !😛😛😛🙏
The type of Gun that Killed Officer Matt Hunt was a type that can still be purchased today. It was a .22LR Rimfire semi auto. I am very much pro second amendment and carried a firearm for 20 years in South Africa. I must say that I much prefer to live in a country with no handguns being carried and we also don't need assault rifles or SLR unless you can register as a collector. That said, govt and police restrictions always creep against law abiding citizens and so its a balancing act.
We don't have second amendment in NZ
How can you be pro 2nd amendment but against "assault rifles or SLR" whatever that means. I suspect you don't actually know what the 2nd amendment is.
You're also incorrect about the firearm used to shoot the police officer, it was an NHM90 that would have been chambered in either .223 or 7.62x39.
And right there is why we don't need personal opinions expressed that are divisive and inflammatory. The word 'need' is highly subjective... if you are a sporting shooter (as opposed to a hunter) you very much did 'need' a semi automatic rifle and the fact that it may or may not have been an 'SLR' does NOT make the tool any more dangerous. Correct me if I am wrong, but most crime and most murders (and suicide by firearm) are committed shotgun or bolt action rifle.
wow stop interrupting you ego maniac 🙄
I have a view as well, strong views - can I come? My very is very different and unpublicised... as such very unknown and very important...
"Officer Safety" that in itself, says it all.
The American law enforcement influence on all Western societies policing.
A register would only affect law abiding citizens, not the people the police claim to be after.
It's far easier to attack licensed firearm owners to give the politicians a win, in the eyes of the public, when something occurs. Than to deal with the real issue, of criminals with firearms.
Is there no gang/criminal intelligence unit within the police, is it a staffing issue, don't care until something kicks off attitude, afraid of the criminals, or too much like hard work?
Whys Laws photoshop frost on his video )))
Is it not possible to 'tag' guns, like we do dogs, or put tracking devices in them and keep tabs on them in that way?
Why??? Law abiding owners will be tracked, yet criminals will immediately remove them (or import one without a tag in the 90% of the containers that enter NZ not inspected.
Yes of coarse. And a gun advocant
Yes of course and a gun advocate. Doesnt make my previous comment untrue. Why do white conservatives desire automatic rifles?
To defend themselves from a world that has always sought to erase them.
Paranoid nonsence. White conservatives are conservative to protect their advantaged position.
The registry is a load of rubbish, only honest people will be on it and how dose that keep police safe against gangs that aren't on it.