Wizards Michael Jordan Was Better Than You Think
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
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Love this MJ Wizards stuff man
Thanks moon! You da man
If anyone shouldve been fired after that 1998 season it shouldve been jerry krause... idk wtf Reinsdorf was thinking. You jus came off of 3 chips in a row for the 2nd time with phil and MJ leading the way... why in the hell would anyone wanna get rid of the coach thats help win 6 titles in a span of 8 years? Makes absolutely no sense. Smh... might jus be the biggest mistake in sports history lol
Yeah Krause can eat a D. 6 rings in 8 years and you wanna fire the coach?????
I wish. That guy was an idiot. His ego was so big. Fire the best coach in the league after he wins 6 championships? Dumb
Exactly! I still can't believe it to this day
@@TheRealMindCrime yea its jus so stupid to let your ego get in the way of something historically great. Krause didn't get the credit he thought he deserved, so let's fire the coach and break up the dynasty.... jus plain stupid.. I know Reinsdorf went and offered phil a contact to come back but he didn't bc krause was still there... Reinsdorf shouldve jus gotten rid of krause and who knows, they may have won in 99 too. That is if most of the team was still intact and u cant tell me that if phil was still there, MJ and rodman still there, that scottie wouldn't have came back to try and go for ring #7.
I still have hate from Krause for this. Still makes no sense to me
I see Billy Joel live 10 years ago. You know he still put on a hell of a performance and sent us home with Piano Man as his closer. Driving home I realized he didn’t sing songs with high notes… happens he was around 65 years old. Do I trash the performance because I didn’t get Uptown Girl, hell no. I’m thankful to get Only the Good Die Young, among 20ish other hits that I love.
I think of these as similar scenarios .
Very similar indeed! I saw Tom Petty live a few months before he passed away. I had no idea he was sick. He rocked the house! I consider myself so lucky to see him while even though past his prime this was still that guy playing his heart out. It's a gift just like those MJ Wizards years.
I agree with you 100%
This further cements his legacy. It takes away the 'what if' aspect which is: What if he played vs modern day players.
Well.... we know.
There's no hypotheticals involved here, we know how he'd fare vs Artest, Bowen, Kirilenko, Ruben Patterson, Magette, you name the top defenders of the 2k era and MJ killed them. Name the top stars of the 2k era and MJ shut them down. Name the top teams of the 2k era and MJ embarrassed them. As an old man. Hurt.... very VERY HURT. About 98% of players today would've either sat down the majority of the season and still load managed or simply not played the season at all if they had his injuries.
Further cemented him as GOAT.
For sure! So many people who were young bucks only got to play against Wizards Jordan and they all talk about how MJ still busted their butts out there lol. He showed a whole generation who he is. So he convinced the guys who came before him, then the guys from his era, then the next era. I'm really glad Wizards Jordan is a thing.
Wizards Jordan is so misunderstood.
I appreciate his wizard years. No way in hell it ruined his legacy he's the goat. To this day I still miss seeing him play. Michael air jordan forever
Great minds think alike fairydust!
@@TheRealMindCrime absolutely! You have a refreshing point of view that's easy on the ears.
Jordan going to a sub par team in Washington for no money because he donated the $1 million he got to the 911 victims. I mean Jordan never said let me get Kobe and Vince Carter and AI on my team. He just wanted to help his young team develop and he thought he could teach them better by playing on the court with them. Jordan also played for the true love of the game. Being 39 and 40 years old going up against the top young allstars of the early 2000's. So cool to watch. You knew he wasn't the same MJ from 1987 or even from 1998 but he was beginning to get to get back to that 98 level MJ before his knee injury. To me it was Jordan's swan song.
You totally get it Jason. He did it for the love of the game, love of competition, and to help out that young Wizards team that he was a part of. I respect it so much.
I was glad MJ played for Wizards… actually caught 3 games… including the game he dropped 45 on Kenyon Martin
Oh lucky! I wish I went to see him in person during that era.
@@TheRealMindCrime lol it was awesome… watched his every move
Him injuring his knee even more after a collision with his teammate, playing on it for a handful of games, getting surgery and rushing back from it to play hurt so he could help the Wizards try and make the playoffs is one of the more impressive parts of his career to me (even though he couldn’t physically play well it’s the mentality aspect).
For sure. Funny cuz thats how his career started. Year two with the foot. He came back early and played when he wasn't supposed to. Even at 40 or 39 he still had the same mentality. He just wanted to go help his team.
@@TheRealMindCrime yeah true almost forgot about that. Good thing it didn’t end his career but ur right that’s just who he was you can’t keep him away.
dont forget about his permanently straight index finger on his shooting hand. Cut the tendon with a cigar cutter after the second retirement.
Yeah for real. That must've been a messy scene when he slice that finger.
I wish he never tore his meniscus in 2002, the wizards would have made the playoffs since the east was weaker by that point than the 90s. He was also in the mvp talk before the injury. Man we were robbed a great season from jordan. Also i hate how the guy in the vid says he became a volume shooter with a bad FG, when jordan was averaging around the leagues average.
Agreed! If not for the rib and knee we could've seen 2 seasons of MJ near 1998 levels. Yeah, 41% was around prime Allen Iverson percentage so the narrator botched that one lol
I paused at 10:20 and was thinking the exact same thing, that he was going to bring the Ron artest story. 😂
I know right?! It's not even a myth, Ron admits he did it lol. He regrets doing it he said cuz MJ was balling out at near peak levels then the rib set him back.
I wanna see an alternare universe where Ron doesn't break MJs ribs
The analysis that compared MJ's stats in the last 2 months and finally in the last 10 games, leading up to his knee injury is much better. In the last 10 games before the injury, MJ's stats were identical to his '98 Bulls season. His shooting percentage was in the high 40s too. And the Wizards were rolling too. If it wasn't for that injury, who knows how his Wizards years would have played out.
Yeah he was peaking out before he went down. They were on path to make the playoffs too.
Mj did donate his salary that a class act,lebum could donate his brain and no one would talk it! Old school best movie young Frankenstein lol
If nothing else it's been a good thing he played for the wizards so we can compare to other greats in old age not just the numbers but the effort especially on defense as well as the demeanor post game
We can now compare his efforts and unwillingness to give up and walk out on the team compared to lebron and others
Especially we can compare his second that trash team vs "others" with stacked teams *cough cough*
The playing just for free essentially so he can prove he can still play with the youngins
For real
Yup. Cept now they just compare Bron to him and with the inflated numbers its not fair. Lebrons 25 would've been 18-20 ppg back then.
@@TheRealMindCrimeespecially with the phantom fouls he gets
not sure if you have watched jonny arnett take on this one. a 2 part video as i remember especially when jxmy mentioned that mj for him sucks in wizard
I think I have....i gotta check again. So many people have Wizards Jordan misunderstood. He was just out there trying to help his team and offer some leadership while scratching that itch to compete. He was never trying to win rings nor did he say he would.
It wasnt jerry krause that blew up the dynasty, its the owner Jerry Reinsdorf. He didnt want to pay jordan, pippen and everyone else their deserved salaries because of the lockdown coming in next season so he blew up the team and used that money to invest in his other team the white sox. Krause (rip) was the gm so he took all the blame. If anyone wants to blame someone for the last dance, blame jerry reinsdorf.
Fair point. The owner gets the final say. Both Jerrys suck but Reinsdorf made a big mistake by firing Phil.
They say MJ was inefficient bc he only shot 41% but back in that era, that was pretty normal for a gaurd.... especially a jump shooting gaurd. Bet there wasnt many other players except PF and Centers that were shootin a higher %. Plus that was a defensive minded era... hardly anyone except the bigs were shooting 50% from the feild
41% was good back then. AI shot around that in his prime and kobe shot around 44% prime. MJs prime was 51% lol
Imagine that. MJs worst was still as good as prime AI's fg %
So many greats but MJ was just different
@@todamoon5270 exactly 💯 someone shooting 41% on mainly midrange jumpers is actually a pretty good percentage...
@@TheRealMindCrime yep, people got so used to seeing Jordan shooting 50% that when it dropped to 41%-42% they say he was inefficient. The way the game was played back then, 41% was actually pretty decent.
Air Jordan's NBA pension check should include of percentage of every damn contract since he retired! GOAT
Its not just his stats that he had at the Wizards its the fact he still played hard , unlike the phoney goat who does a lot of standing around whining with his palms turned up ,
For sure. He played hard even with the injuries. No standing around and not getting down the court...or blaming teammates when the guy Bron guarding scores on him lol.
@@TheRealMindCrime My feelings exactly
I followed #Mike from NC until he said fuck y’all I got nothing else to prove! He loved the game and I loved #HisAirness🥰 #TheGOAT✨
Yup! Thats my goat!
No matter how bad Michael Jordan’s Chicago Bulls teams were before he built the 6-Championship Dynasty, no matter how bad Jordan’s Wizards teams were, and no matter how bad Kobe Bryant’s teams were before/after the Shaq 3-peat Dynasty and before/after the Gasol Repeat teams, Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant have NEVER LOST 10 (TEN) (Double-Digit) STRAIGHT Consecutive games in the NBA to the same one singular team. LeBron James is trying HARD to remove himself from most Top-5 lists, if most players, media, and fans even have LeBron James him in their Top-5. 💯💯💯💯💯
Its sad cuz if Bron didn't call himself the GOAT then we'd all appreciate him as a good basketball player. But since he wants to jump over all the greats and become the goat without earning it he gets a lot of hate from us all. Deserved too. He should just come out and say MJ is the GOAT like Kobe did when he retired. He'd benefit from the conversation stopping. He's not even close to goat status.
He's off my top 5. Last nights choke just added to it
MJ was just built different
I have Jordans rookie card.
How did Jordan alone build a 6 champ dynasty when Pippen, coach Phil, and GM Krause were also there for each of those 6 titles? Plus before Phil was coach Jordan did not build any championship teams, and without Pippen Jordan did not build even a 2nd round playoff team. Yet he built the 6 titles by himself lol.
Good point: Wizards Jordan showed that skill is a *KEY*
Thank you! Thats why it was fun to watch. MJ came in the league as rhe most athletic dude ever. At the end the athleticism was mainly worn out and he became the most fundamentally solid dude out there. Cool to see the same guy successful in completely different ways.
I sure wouldn't mind if rage against the machine made a 5th album I like the comparison you made there
It's a gift just enjoy it
I'm glad you get it. Even if the new album isn't as good as their prime stuff it can't take away from how good those albums were. Enjoy the gift. Btw i would totally welcome a new Rage album lol.
Thats how I felt when the last Tool album came out. Not their best but it was a gift. Nothing can take away from what they did in the 90s. This was a bonus gift. Encore.
The problem is while MJ's numbers were impressive in the Wizards years, he wasn't just another player or a "top prospect" he was Michael freaking Jordan so averaging solid numbers wasn't impressive when his own standard was greatness. I would guess MJ would probably tell you the same thing since he was all about winning and the Wizards didn't win.
Absolutely. He signed on with the Wizards to help the young team grow and develop. He showed them what it looks like to give it 100% no matter what, even if you are losing.
I better get my opinions in on this channel before my man over here doesn't respond to them ever again when there's too many to get too lol....
I'll try and keep this as brief as possible. I'm an MJ guy, plain n simple. Personally I LOVED the Wizards years. The man came back after all that time and STILL was able to impact games. Show me anyone else who could do that, I'll wait. That team overachieved because he was on it.
As a 40+ yr old myself, I have no choice other than to respect it. He didn't cheat by taking anything either *coughs* (LeBalco)
There has always been something beautiful about the midrange game that's lost in today's game. Being a threat from anywhere is beautiful and makes u a complete player. These guys now can hit 3's from the parking lot, yeah they can dunk. But there's nothing in between that anymore. Derozen is probably the last really good mid range player anymore.
And I guess I end this with the Karl Malone question.....ugh....
I'm gonna say no to him taking something for 1 simple reason. As we age, it's so easy to put on weight. Hell, I can't get below 200lbs anymore even on a diet.
With that being said. Karl wasn't a lazy dude, and these guys have all the money in the world to afford personal trainers. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and say he put in the work only because he may have been ripped but didn't look artificial.
Does he deserve that benefit of the doubt? No, but I'm a give it to him anyways
Agreed on your take on Karl Malone. Its just funny cuz he literally doubled in size the second half of his career with all muscle lol. As for MJ, he said he was coming out of retirement to help the young Wizards team grow and give them a fighting chance. He was giving back to the game at that point. He did exactly that. The media is who created this "oh he can't win a title with Washington" crap when that was never in the cards. He just wanted to compete.
Finally, hey man, even if this channel grows to that point you and about 5 other people are my OG's who have been there since the beginning. I'll always look out for your comments and even if i can only reply to a few comments per vid I'll look out for yours. Thanks as always. Just a few months ago I only had 1000 subs. I won't forget.
@TheRealMindCrime u a real 1 man without a doubt. One thing u did mention in the video stood out that I didn't touch base on but 100% agree on. Every game he played in DC was a gift. It's not often u get to witness greatness. And when u do u can't take it for granted. Because u never know when u will see anything like it again.
That's why L36ron is still chasing a guy who played 13 full seasons in yr 21 in his career.
@@ReaperCrew2682I'm really glad I took time those two Wizards years to watch as many games as possible. I never expected him to come back and I knew this was a gift and I won't see someone like him again maybe ever. Damn good thing i did lol.
@@TheRealMindCrime thanks for responding to all the comments
You should react to Jonny Arnett’s video about Jordan’s Wizards years. His video is great as well
I put it on the list. Thanks sam. I like his vids.
This was a better video. Comparing the pre-knee injury Jordan stats.
Dude went out like he went in...on a team where he pulled the weight w/o help and still was awesome against better teams. Most respect for the philanthropy and not wanting the glory of it while doing it.
You totally get it jammie!
@@TheRealMindCrime thanks for the video. I just saw the stats before and kinda disregarded the Wizard years. It really helped put what he did in more perspective, and at that age too! He didn't have a stacked roster a 2024 Lakers had either!
Please do more Wizards Jordan stuff. This stuff is great
Will do man. I really enjoy covering this era of MJ.
@@TheRealMindCrimelookin forward to it man
This ☝️
I still didn't understand clearly what were his purpose when he came back. Perhaps these moved while he was playing. At the beggining, It was certainly to help the franchise (make the public come to the games) and the team (help them to get maturity, shre experience). But I think he also wanted to challenge the new generation.
The only disappointing point was that during the 2002-2003 season, eyes were on Lebron on high school, who was announced as the future GOAT, and on the road to be drafted. One more season to face Lebron (kick his ass ?!) would have been a good end.
I wish we could've seen that. But it was cool to see MJ compete against the whole next gen of players like that. I think MJ really wanted to help the young team but also he had that itch to scratch to see if he can still compete.
Bro are you gonna do the video on the hardest championships from jimmy high roller
Yes I am. I've got it on my list for the next week or so. Thanks for the suggestion mv
@@TheRealMindCrime do you have a Patreon set up to vote for videos?
@@MvfasalwaysI don't. I'm still really new to this youtube stuff. Never messed with patreon yet. I think there's a tipping mechanism on youtube but I'm not really sure cuz i never got a tip before lol.
@@TheRealMindCrimewoah. There is a tippinf thing here. Calles super thanks lol
OMG dude... I remember being younger watching that All-Star game thinking "WTF is wrong with you Jermaine! You asshole why would you foul then!?!? You ruined it!!!" God I hated him after that. It was such a perfect ending. That fade was beautiful! To this day, I still don't like Jermaine O'Neal lolol
Same!!! I still hold a grudge for ruining MJs final ASG
I was n 6th grade n my pops hit a half court shot at a nbdl or g league game n win us tickets to all star weekend that yr…good times
@@ncnyc4418 Damn, that must have been an amazing experience!
@@just_jeff4839 yep…having played d1 and a lil overseas lookin back now that’s prolly my fav bball memory besides seeing Kobe drop 54 on the bobcats n a loss cuz the red threw him out n dbl ot
@@ncnyc4418 oh shit, that's cool. You must have been a pretty damn good baller to play in d1 and overseas!
Jordan was right .. Kobe couldn’t fill his shoes …. But Kobe was closer than most
Jessica
As we've seen no one can really fill his shoes lol. But Kobe came closer than anyone else so far. Good to see ya Jessica! My damn Suns are getting crushed again.
@@TheRealMindCrime sorry that’s happening. At least the suns ain’t Lebron James
@@motoringwithmouseball1219hahaha. If Lebron comes to the Suns I'm not watching a single game.
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Hey buddy have you seen mjs historic bulls mixtape? Awesome
I have. Its so epic!
Your the best lmk when you do that please I'll be all over it
I think you can tarnish a legacy. If Jordan came back and flopped all over the place, playing dirty and hurt his character it could have tarnished his legacy. He came out and played like 40 year old MJ. I also appreciate, I hated him his whole prime and this was my chance to appreciate him, and I followed the wizards those seasons to enjoy MJ without negative bias. The confidence to go out there knowing the bar that he’s set that people will be thinking with my god he must have cantaloupes in his jock strap. Pardon my vulgarity. :)
😆 🤣 😂 no worries. You're right though. MJ just isn't that dude. He played fair and tried to win at any age. Not a flopper. Also i think he only had something to prove to himself and not the world anymore. He cemented himself as the goat years prior so he was kinda free out there just hoopin. Been nice chattin with ya today Sarah. Been in bed sick so this has been very pleasant lol.
@@TheRealMindCrime And get well! Hope the sick blows over.
Thank you very much. I'll be ok. Enjoying the Mavs vs Wolves game so its not so bad.
a real man's 23 points are more valuable than a balco freek 25 points.
So Kwame “tells the facts” but is yet somehow still insane. This is literally the 💩 world we live in today folks. Sad and downright scary reality.
Yeah...I watched his channel for about a year then I realized he's literally out there looking for a fight constantly looking for blood. I agree with some things he says especially about the media but he just seems like a dude that would be dangerous to have around cuz he's looking for trouble. Gotta admit I haven't checked out his channel in about a year though. Maybe he has changed.
@@TheRealMindCrime fair enough I respectfully disagree. When you’re constantly getting crapped on in the media any normal person is going to come back with some hostility. I think he’s rather calm for the amount of 💩 he’s taken over the course of nearly 2 decades.
Labron will get the coach fired, and Michael Jordan wouldn't do that 🤣 that's the difference 👍. I would love to see Jordan taking the wizard to a championship 👍, without a doubt he would make the wizard a championship contender. And I will say this, Labron CAN'T and will NEVER be able to do what Michael Jordan did in the game of basketball PERIOD!!!
Jordan did the opposite. Said if they fire phil then he's gonna retire. Then did it. Much more loyalty with mj.
To me I always viewed it that since it wasn't The Bulls with what core players would have been left if somehow he stayed. Also he didn't just play for the best team to ring chase unlike Karl. Also Karl is a piece of shat but I think I remember it being natural and he just did nothing but bang young girls and workout.
Malone was definitely on the juice, and had a bad attitude. He got more swole after his natural physical peak, that doesn't happen without some kind of chemical intervention
The Washington Wizards were 67-75 with Michael Jordan.
Michael Jordan played 36.1 minutes per game for the Wizards in his career.
In his first Wizards year he lead the team in FG attempts shooting 240 more than than the 2nd in FGA on the team. In his 2nd Wizards he lead the team in FG attempts with a gap of 326 FGA over the 2nd leader in that.
Jordan also lead the Wizards in usage rate both years he was there.
He lead the team in usage and shot attempts both years, while playing only 2 mins less a game than he did for the Bulls in his career. Which was still 3/4 of a game per game.
The wizards were 30-30 in 1 year with him, which was still not on pace to make the playoffs seeing as the Eastern 8th seed that year finished over 0.500. The other year they finished below 0.500 and missed the playoffs with Jordan playing all 82 games.
If this was any other all time great Jordan fanboys would hold it against him. So excuses and trying to rewrite the Wizards years should not be taken seriously.
The wizards were bad , you are right, but - mike was injured most of his time there, and other players kept getting hurt as well.
@@eyalsabag1772 That kind of reasoning is not used for any other all time great though. When they lose or miss the playoffs it is held against them regardless of their health or teammate's health.
Also, as I stated he lead the team in shot attempts and played 36 mins a game when he did play for 60 games one year, and 82 games the other. Him being injured simply does not hold up as a good excuse. He played 75% of the game for 142 games out of a possible 164 for the Wizards. So that's 75% of the game for 87% of 2 NBA seasons + taking the most shots on the team. That's not injured player load.
Teammates being injured is another matter sure.
@@BulletBill-yb3ti Wizards were 26-21 in MJ first year before he got hurt and tried to play through it
@@BallCDO 26 wins is not a winning season. 42 is. "got hurt and tried to play through it" so your reasoning is that he was too hurt to be held responsible for losses, yet he was still out there playing heavy minutes and leading the team in usage. Something does not add up.
@@BulletBill-yb3ti 26-21 was a winning season til he got hurt n tried to play through it. His numbers dipped then he set it down for the season. 30-30 wasn't great but was better than 19-63
Isiah order jermain his coach order jermain to foul and ruin mj in all star game
Probably! Lol
Too.compare mj had nobody still dominated leflake has AD bevers still can't dominate leflop gets way too.much media hype especially from dick Wright Lmao
That weezle Wright is disgusting
hmmmm this make we wanted to buy mj wizard jersey set... this coming pay check i will buy one... actually im ones of your brrothers same thinking of him on that year coz of his injury... i dont want him to push himself to get injured again but... he owned the team... what can i say to that.
I always wanted a Wizards Jordan jersey. I might have to get one too jh
I got one. I love that jersey
about the cards.... i spend 300 dollars for a hologram red bulls jordan and literally ignore golden mj wizards. for the opening season cards.
Jh! I got most of my Wizards Jordan cards for $2-5 each. Online or at a local card shop. No one wants them lol. So.....I got like 10 of them from those 2 seasons cuz they mean something to me far beyond a price tag.
@@TheRealMindCrime yeah i know that as a collector a rather have mj bulls than mj wizard event if it was super rare i rather go for rare lvl at bulls cards than super rare wizard cards.