2023 Triumph Scrambler 1200XE | The ADV Alternative
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- The Triumph Scrambler 1200 offers a stylish alternative to traditional adventure motorcycles like the Tiger 900 or 1200, Africa Twin, Tenere 700, R1250GS, V-Strom and others. Who is it for, what are the pros and cons, and is it a legitimate alternative to mainstream ADV's? Let's find out. #motorcycle #motorbike #triumph #scrambler1200 #scrambler
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00:00 Intro
02:36 Models/Prices
04:13 Sound Check
04:46 Riding Position
06:01 High Exhaust
07:43 Passenger
09:37 Specs
14:06 Tour/Features
18:13 Controls/Dash
23:01 Maintenance
23:39 Accel/Braking Test
24:36 Freeway
27:58 Urban
30:29 Sport Ride
34:41 Off Road
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I generally like your reviews. Not this one. It seems like you didn't do your homework or due diligence with this bike. A heavy clutch pull??? Short seat?? Did you adjust the suspension to your weight!? The extreme dive can be adjusted out of the front forks as well as the rear bottoming with a little set up. Yes its heavy. Its a scrambler! Its made to ride on paved roads, dirt roads, gravel roads, forest service roads, sandy roads and easier two track. Its not made for long distance interstate riding although it can do it with an added windshield. Its not made for deeply rutted rocky washed out two track. It can do it but at a reduced pace. This is a great bike for its intended purpose.
I’ve had my Steve McQueen 1200 for 18 months now and I love it. I’m 6’2” so that helps and weight doesn’t bother me. I’ve had it on the fire trails and some mid level technical stuff with no problem except tight trails can get worrisome when you try to turn around. I ride in sand and a little mud. Just like all off road bikes, you just need to keep your speed up and let the bike rudder. I’ve taken it on long trips (1700 miles, 5 day, 10 states) and with a dart fly screen the wind is bearable. The torque the bike has is fantastic! I also have a CRF450 RL and no, the Scrambler can’t compare off road but NO ONE stops to ask about the Honda, EVERYONE wants to look at and talk about the Scrambler. Luggage accommodations? Not so much, you have to get creative.
Thanks for you input. It's so inspiring, since I'm getting the 1200 XE 2023 in a couple of weeks myself.
There are some rigid panniers made by Unit Garage in Italy that even fit a full face helmet on the left. They also produce a functional windshield. I'll definitely get both anda top box from them.
@@rostfominPerhaps also look at the Triumph Scrambler touring screen, works great and fits in well for me.
This bike is insanely fun. People buy it because it oozes personality and style, has strong emotional appeal and devilishly grin-inducing torque that makes city riding and overtaking a hoot. Most modern bikes suffer from aesthetic indigestion or narcolepsy-inducing sameness, especially most adventure bikes. This is a bike that should not be compared to them since it is deliberately designed to evoke an earlier aesthetic and will never be able to match the "form-follows-function" aesthetic of modern adv designs or naked sport bikes. Like having a gorgeous wife, a tailored suite or a classic car, this bike makes you feel distinguished.
Note 1 - speaking to newbies and those who don't have a beloved bike brand, or style, or purpose.
Note 2 - YOU HAVE TO LEARN your motorcycle. These excellent reviews speak to everybody, regardless of their experience or bike segment.
Pertaining to this review, you addressed everything (that I could think of) that would be pertinent to anybody's points of consideration.
But since you don't own this bike, and you are trying to educate as many people as possible, that's the limitation. And for that individual who appreciates what Triumph has done with this very unique motorcycle, they just need to ride it. They will become considerably more adept and capable at this machine than anybody.
You know yourself that you and your motorcycle become ONE, given time.
Note 3 - "rather than the bmw"...you said a mouthful. I'll end on that note later.
Note 4 - you did an excellent job of really identifying this bike's identity. It is apparently a super specific performance bike.
Note 5 - you said it!...again. This is an awesome motorcycle. You didn't use those words. But today, any motorcycle that can claim a unique identity, cutting edge performance and subsequent enjoyment, is AWESOME in my humble opinion.
Another note is that I love Triumph motorcycles. When I was 13 years old, I would dream over this Bonneville that I would see in this man's garage whenever I passed his house. I'd never seen anything so incredible in my life. The Bonneville remains one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever built...in my humble opinion.
My adoration was justified by Gary Nixon winning Grand National #1 riding a Triumph over two consecutive years.
If you aren't riding a Triumph, you're just riding a motorcycle. I'm sorry. I can't help it if I'm right.
Lastly, Big Rock Moto provides the best and most unbiased reviews I have ever seen. The fact that he yields a lot "OKs" about the Triumph, is couched in his expertise and his lack of my devotion to Triumph. I forgive him.
PS. I'm just having fun. Don't take offense if you don't love Triumphs like I do. No slam on any of the numerous other awesome bikes out there.
I had a Scrambler before trading it in for the Tuareg. The bike is beautiful and a total beast. However, three main issues for me caused me to need to look for another option. 1) way too heavy (top heavy) and was a challenge to pick up - like you showed. 2) Replacement parts took forever - I lost the side plate that covered the fuses and that took months to get and was over $300 for a non-functional piece of plastic. 3) Even though I mounted the bike old-school "throw the leg over" style 90% of the time, the section of frame down by the kickstand cracked in half (from the general weight of the bike? not sure); But that took over 6 months to get that section of the frame and since I didn't have a clear idea of what caused it, after I finally got it replaced, I had to find something else I didn't need to worry about, that was also lighter. Having said all that, it was an absolute beast of a bike and I did get more compliments than any other bike I've had (not that I get a bike fishing for compliments - but just shows people really appreciated the style).
great info
And you think you'll get parts for an Aprilia any easier or cheaper? All motorcycle parts are ridiculously over priced...but us motorcyclists make the economy go around because we're addicted to having several bikes
I’ve been buying parts directly from UK for my triumph.
@@freeheelsak yeah - honestly parts availability was the lowest of the reasons. My main reason was struggling with it off-road like Ian points out (due to the top-heaviness) and then the main issue for me was the broken frame sub-section (and I wasn't the only one that had this issue). I'm an old-school moto-X guy, I rarely ever mounted by using the kick-stand. I always threw my leg over. So, how that broke I have no clue.
Where do you live?
I have owned this bike for three years now, just two things: best bike I have ever owned, could not imagine selling it, and this is the best most complete review I have seen online! Grande
Check out Life of a Scrambler and Songs from the Saddle for good (IMO) owner reviews if you're thinking of buying. I've had mine for 3 years and take it everywhere I'm good enough to go. It's surprisingly capable out of the box but a couple of things I'd recommend: Shapeways Leg Saver solves the pipe heat issue; Hepco and Becker engine protection bars stop/minimise bike and leg damage when you drop it (Triumph also do crash bars); OEM hand guards not that strong so swapped them for Barkbusters; get tires suited to where you're riding. I use Mitas E7+ or E09. 21 inch front is great but 17 inch rear limits tire choices. Check out Total Triumph slash cut pipes if you want something that roars. Overall...freakin love it.
I’m living with this bike as a long distance touring bike, and a daily commuter to work. The only changes I made, were a Zard low 2-1 exhaust, and a Triumph tall touring screen. That about resolves any downsides for this bike. It’s run’s cool, and I have ample wind protection. It’s still heavy, but that’s the only issue I have to live with.
Ian, I want this bike so badly. It looks fantastic. I test rode one and fell in love with the character of the engine the same way you did. At 6'3 it is the perfect size for me, and it's about the only modern-vintage bike that doesn't make me look like an elephant humping a football when i sit on it.
We ADV riders are arguably the most demanding group of riders ever to exist. We need our bikes to be resilient enough to be thrown around off-road, handle great in corners, and comfortable enough to handle 300+ mile days on the slab.
In order for this to be touring serviceable, you'd need to add a windscreen and a lower exhaust right away so you can accommodate two soft bags on it. That of course, ruins the precious aesthetic, but who cares on the trails.
The problem is the weight of this bike and the relatively relaxed rake. I've owned and ridden an F800GSA for the past two years. I regret the weight of that bike every time i get onto a trail with it- along with its undersprung suspension. Somehow, though, that rotax engine always got me home.
I'm conflicted. From a functional standpoint- the 890R/Norden are the ideal picks for me. Tenere 700 needs suspension upgrades, I can't trust an Aprilia (or stomach the headlight), BMW's bikes are too big, and the Africa twin is too heavy/undersprung.
but i still find myself coming back to the looks of the triumph.
Did you ever get the scrambler. I have a 1200GS and it’s such a good bike but it’s almost too good.
I'm dying for one of these to just tour... I've had big touring bikes... but i want something more open air.. i think this is on my list to stay my camping gear on and just go😊
I took mine down the MABDR and it was a blast. I'm 6'4" 260 lbs and had about 80 lbs of camping gear/tools....not a problem. We hit every terrain and never faltered. Before riding down the MABDR from PA to VA we had to ride up to PA/NY border on the hard ball. No problem with Shinko 804/805s This bike forces you to ride and enjoy motorcycling. You'll have fun learning about yourself and discovering your break even points. I am one with my motorcycle now.
Thinking about stepping up from my T100 to this 1200XE. I do not do a lot of off-road riding, but at 6'4"/ 260 also, I like the seat height. I'm a weekender who does about 100-150 miles a day in the paved mountains. Curious of your thoughts on the "move".
@@sgtshak2806went from my T120 to 1200xe, really liked the Bonneville, but have trippled seat time exploring secondary / dirt / off-road routes.
I have a 2022, XE 1200 and I am 6’7 I feel like it’s just a big dirtbike I have done 6000km in seven weeks now and I absolutely love it 🏍️
Thanks for adding the segment on Maintenance intervals and accessibility of the oil and air filters. I recommend these be covered in all bike reviews!
so do i
Very comprehensive review👍 I’m not in the market for this bike, having just bought the new Transalp, but I enjoy your style and have picked up some tips for my own videos. Keep up the good work, Ian. All the best from Portugal😊
Hey mate!
Congratulations, that was without a doubt the most detailed, sincere and honest review I've ever seen of a scram1200xe. I have one, I'm already on my second one (being my first one the xc version) and I agree with everything you said in your appreciation of this beautiful model. I will not be hypocrite and say that this is the best bike in the world (that doesn't exist) and that I don't miss a mid or big trail for the comfort in longer rides, but without a doubt this is one of the most beautiful, well equipped and with the best finishes of the segment, for me this is the only bike that can do justice to the Scrambler designation!
In short, it is not perfect in many aspects, but it is an excellent bike to do a little bit of everything and also to enjoy when stopped ahah it is simply beautiful!!!
With all that said, I wish you continued great work, as your reviews are always very detailed and honest without the typical BS of the media/journalists in general.
Cheers from Portugal.
thank you!
So many folks are confused to why the driving modes reset after cycling of ignition/key....I'm pretty sure it's liability mostly for every manufacturer. Same thing for the cars, you can turn off abs in many of them but you restart the car it's back where it should be. They know that there are some folks that shouldn't be trusted with the machine completely and who will then sue them over something stupid like that.😢
Not sure that is the reason.. I’m thinking it’s more about cost.. many of the newer adv and sport bikes, particularly the European ones, do save the settings when you power off.. my KTM 790 Adventure foe example
Interesting the clutch is heavy. Mine has always been soft, easy, and plush. Sounds like it needs adjustments
Your drop tests are such a useful resource, just switched over to a Scram1200 and came back to your channel to re-watch this part. Really helpful to prepare the bike for some light off-roading and it's fantastic that you do this with all the bikes you review! Keep up the amazing vids!
Good review. Reminds me of friends riding Triumphs around 1968. Heavy, good off the bottom, wind pushing you around as speed increases, suspension bottoming off road. Definitely a bike bringing back an era of motorcycling.
Audio was always good.
Like that you always say your sizes (leg inseam, height,....).
Also like the mentioning of both imperial & metric numbers, speeds, weight,....
First comment what a day !! working in India and on night shift wake up to a Big Rock Moto video before getting out of bed!!!!! Thanks Ian !!! The one thing this bike has going for it, it doesn't look like every other ADV bike out there. I was close to buying this over the T120 but then i said to myself, i'm old and how often will i go off road.
I have ran 5 sets of tires on my 2019 1200XE…had 3 miles on the clock when I went to pick it up at the dealer, anyhow…my third set were Conti Trail Attack 3 and they were amazing, along with dialing my F/R suspension, the bike changes dramatically for the twisty stuff, and track days, BUT you have to put in the work to tune your suspension. Set #5 are currently Dunlop Trailmax Missions and they’re BEASTLY for nearly anything I throw at my bike. At nearly 20k miles…I have zero complaints about the bike and will never get rid of it. It fits me perfectly physically, I’m 6’2” 250lbs, 32 inseam…and it fits me perfectly as a rider of 20+ years. Ride On!
Man, your comprehensive reviews are the best on the internet. I agree with all you said here. I have the XC and love it despite it's flaws. Dirt enough for me(I have a dirtbike for when I really want to get after it), great torque, and just fun to ride. I've also owned and loved a Scrambler 900. The 1200 is just more in every way. Thank you for all you do!
Loved this review, and am in the process of buying a slighted used 2019 1200 XE! One thing I read from the manual regarding the comment about the bike not remembering rider modes:
If when the ignition was last switched OFF, the following conditions were met:
- Off-Road, Off-Road Pro or Rider mode was active,
- and ABS or TC was set to Off-Road or OFF,
then the riding mode will default to Road when the ignition is switched ON.
Otherwise, the last selected riding mode will be remembered and activated when the ignition is switched ON.
Maggie, thank you for your input and don’t worry about the mike and sound… another great review by BRMoto.
Thanks for review this bike, I just to have one and it was awesome! I love it! But I’m old school and I think that’s was the main reason! Everyone stop you and ask for this bike! 😂😂😂 thanks again, I change it for the tiger rally pro 900 just because my girl was uncomfortable in the scramble in the long trips! Hope you had fun riding this bike!!
Thanks Ian for the video. Very informative! I was severely tempted by this bike because it's gorgeous and I really don't like traditional adventure bike styling - too much plastic (sorry Taureg 660). Yet, your points are hard to ignore. If I had the room in my garage, I might still be tempted to buy one just to look at it. Yet, the older I get, the lighter I want my bike. My litmus test is whether the weight of the bike would make me avoid certain trails if I was riding alone. Others more skilled than myself would likely scoff at that, but I need to ride my ride.
I've had an XC for a couple of years now, absolutely love it, I have the factory screen and no issues with wind ( just a bit of helmet buffering with an enduro style )
I've only found the exhaust hot after 3 hours solid riding when I was stuck in stop go traffic.
I've off roaded with no issues, and even been on the official Triumph adventure course and no problems, you learn to ride slightly toe in when stood.
Engine is great, the Torque is from the initial throttle opening all the way to the redline at 7000 rpm
i just searching this bike a couple days ago and now i get full review from you
Owning a 2022 XE, I can rest my bare calf on the heat shield in 90° heat and not get burned, it's hardly hot, so I'm not sure where the magnitude of complaints is coming from here. On the early models before they moved the cat to the rear, sure it was definitely a problem.
It may not "get hot" but, the constant heat near my ball on a long ride it a major turn off.. it's a great bike for very short rides in the winter tho .
They moved the cat on 21 bikes onwards
Just got the XC and added tail tidy, crash bars, hand guards, bar end mirrors and single side luggage rack. I'm surprised how much I like this bike. The quality of parts and fit and finish are really nice and it's a blast to ride. Great bikes.
I got mine yesterday . What did you buy all the accessories? Can you share links please
@@hareshkanagasabapathi781 What sort of fuel range do you have with the bike?
@@TommyNitro On tarmac about 320km.
I fell in love with the styling when Triumph released it. Immediately brought in my speed triple R and switched bikes, never regretted it. XE comes with heated grips standard (little button on the left grip). The handguards are flimsy, broke off with the first crash and are expensive to replace. Replaced them with barkbusters. Crashbars are mandatory and protect the engine really well, as do the passenger pegs 😊. The footpegs need to be replaced with 'rally' style ones to give more foot comfort. And i like you mention the torque, but what this bike does very well is keeping the same amount of torque through the whole rev range. Wind protection is an issue, I'm looking in to that to find a stylish solution 😅. But thanks for the awesome review, greetings from Belgium 😊
Actualy no heated grips as standart there in EU :( cost ~200eur extra
I would have taken the xe if heated grips were standard.
Ian, your video and sound quality are top notch, seem improved. As far as the Scrambler you have nailed it. I considered it but figured all of the pros and cons without buying one. It is an image motorcycle. I love what it is, a beautiful well constructed motorcycle, I just don’t want to live with one. Could be a second bike but that is a lot of money to tie up in a bike for image and a certain kind of fun.
I usually don’t watch videos this long but if it’s from you I grab z coffee and spend the time. Well worth it. As a Canadian I had to laugh when you said it’s cold at 70F. I think your test made it clear that this is a true Scrambler.
this was the. most compressive review i saw good job
Your videos and reviews are so good! Quality and honest content!!
This bike is calling to me. Looking forward to this review Ian.
6’5 with 34” inseam here. Bike feels like it was made for me. Look outside the spec sheet. What a great overall package. Motor is plenty powerful. Fits me great which is rare. Flat bench seat is what more manufacturers should do, tons of room to move around. Great kit on the bike, cruise, heated grips, etc etc etc… great overall package. Throw on the side pannier, rear rack with a box, and a windshield you are good to go for whatever you want.
Your video quality is really good. Sharp and clear, great lighting. Best of the bike reviewers. Thanks👍👍👍
Much appreciated!
I have a Bonneville T120, similar stying with a lot less suspension travel, and I love it. I've been customizing mine for the last year and one of things I added right away was a fly screen. It made a huge difference in wind protection. That being said, I've never understood the allure of an expensive 500lb dirt bike, like this Scrambler or a large ADV bike. That being said, the new 400cc Scrambler that Triumph is launching next month has caught my eye.
always honest review here.. many owners says it is fantastic offroad but all seems to have been forgot to mention the exhaust touching your leg while pushing it in odd position while standing up ..
The best looking scrambler out there IMO.
The Doug Demuro of bike reviews. Excellent and full of info that everyone else doesn't cover. Thanks Ian.
My pleasure!
Great review , very comprehensive and detailed . I am however surprised you mentioned that the scrambler is not as good off road than “ other adventures bikes “ - my own experience is that it performs better off road than anything I have tried ( tiger - BMW - Africa twin - ) the AT comes close but in the nay stuff the scrambler tops it -
I was hoping you were going to cover this bike! Thanks so much!
I honestly love mine. It can really do anything you want too. Swiss army knife of a bike.
Great review. Answered all my questions and pointed out logical concerns.
Another excellent review. thanks a lot Ian. I think the bike looks amazing and its a great allrounder. Btw there are some aftermarket exhaust systems which bring the pipes lower but are quite expensive-i would consider buying one though if I owned the bike.
Nice review! I do think that the Scrambler 1200 XE It's the balance of a beautiful bike and a capable ADV. I have one and one of my biggest complaints is that there is nothing to grab with the knees haha the tank is short and a bit forward so when you are offroading you have to use your legs very well when you require to squeeze the scrambler. I had to upgrade the hand guards because the original were just crap and the foot pegs but for the rest, it's an absolutely phenomenal bike!
The question that was revealed for me when I tested this bike was comparing it to the other iterations of this engine was that on the XE the torque goes up and up way further than what’s needed, because with no wind protection you have no chance to feel any lack of power. It’s a fantastic solution. It isn’t made for big mileage traveling on motorways. It’s a bike to explore the B roads and more unused or forgotten routes. It’s perfect for that. Of course it isn’t a slow bike, you can ride it in a fast sporty manner but it invites you to ride it on a rumbling way, it sounds lovely! The upper position the commanding posture in traffic and in general road riding is so pleasant and secure…The big travel of the suspension soaks up all the asphalt imperfections, it’s a so plush ride and at the same time it’s very firm, so there is a nice and precise sensation of safety when you lean the bike on the bends. With the right gear and helmet you can get a lot of pleasure of riding this machine.👌🏻
This was a great full review, thanks!
I'd love for you to be able to get to test-drive a Desert Sled.
I just started seriously considering Triumphs this week. Another great review!
Gorgeous, expensive, not the most practical, heavy and compromised. I want one badly.
I have the XC cause the XE was to tall for me. 5'8". I mounted an Zard exhaust and i love the sound of this bike. For me personally it is one of the coolest bike out there. I don't regret my decisions.
I loved my 2019 XE until I totaled it. Impractical as all heck, bit just a hoot to ride. And what a cool looking bike. There really is nothing like it. I'd definitely buy another one if I could add another couple bikes to my stable, but I wouldn't off-road it again. Better tools for the job. I'd customize it and it would be my dedicated "day trip" bike for gravel roads and just cruising around. And sure, Starbucks. Why not.
Very glad you reviewed this bike, been looking at the Steve McQueen edition for a while now, your review cemented my purchase. Also like to see you review a Moto Guzzi 8V Grisso, that I am interested in as well.
Thank you for the great review. Your channel is one of the best out there. I appreciate your honest, detailed approach and also the small things, like the metric values to all mentioned data. Regarding the bike....the off-road aspect is only for looks :)
Thank you for your nice video Ian, it's always a pleasure watching your videos, you're doing a very good job. I really like that bike, old style mixed with some modern stuff, but it's really heavy. Watching your video, I noticed that probably using only one shock absorber instead of two, the exhaust pipe could be positioned closer to the chassis, giving more space to the passenger's legs, and the bike would be a little lighter. Old style is good, but sometimes you can create some not very comfortable situations that might be avoided by thinking in a different way. Triumph should think about. Only my opinion, of course.
Another great review by Ian. I would opt for the Unit Garage Low slung exhaust mod with no Cat, to address heat issues. And it saves 6Kg. When Ian was describing XE alternatives, I also thought...why not the XC?. Lower seat, lower height, slightly lower weight (the nominal gains add up). And the XC is still well within most riders off-road abilities. Also....does anyone know if the scrambler 1200 is still made in Hinkley? or is this model now made in Thailand, along with other triumph models? I saw on a forum you can check for a letter variation on the VIN.
Interesting review. As an owner of a 22 1200XE I have been waiting anxiously to hear your review of this bike. I think you do very thorough and unbiased reviews and I was curious to see your opinion of my bike vs an actual adv bike. I was a bit surprised with your findings, based on my experience. I find the clutch to be an extremely light pull. This perhaps because my other road bikes are Harleys. This is relative. What surprised me most is your comments on the suspension. I find the suspension to be extremely harsh. On dirt roads even, the small irregularities are jarring, even with the damping all the way out. ( softest setting). Perhaps they made some improvements on the 23's, if so I would love to understand how to duplicate that. Also, my bike is not as smooth as you mentioned your test bike was. Mine starts to buzz noticeably and irritatingly at about 3800 rpm, it becomes less at about 4200 rpm but still present to recline. Very smooth up to 3800.
First of all, very good review! Watched the whole video 😉 I own the 23 model XE model and I absolutely love this bike! Agree with everything except the suspension. I had mine yesterday on a similar track like you did and I did adjust it beforehand and no bottom out at all. As mike says, I think it's more of a harsh suspension. Other than that thanks for your review Ian 💪👍
same thots about the clutch, before XE hade Dyna, there is nothing can get harder then clutch on this bike :)
This is such a comprehensive and great review!
Also, putting the Triumph knee pads makes a HUGE difference when standing up and fixes the bow legged exhaust issue. I wish I would have gotten them day 1. Cheap and very effective!
I’ve have this exact bike and love it. I only ride on the road and love the engine for blasting back road canyons. I’m grinding ear to ear in my helmet when flogging her around. I had so many bikes and absolutely love the this thing! I have 500 exc for off road and think big bikes and off road are not fun. Did 6000 hard desert miles on my F800GS and once you ride a light weight dual sport off-road you’ll never go back. On a small bike you seek out obstacles :)
At least you managed 6000 miles hard desert on the f800gs shows how good the bike is.
@@chrishart8548 absolutely, these “heavy” adventure bigs are so well built - it absolutely my skill that was the the limiting factor.
I have to say the 2021 desert sled is a fabulous bike. I think it has the best ergonomics for standing off road. You should try and review one, great bike!
Big Rock Moto is the best motorcycle channel
The dummy "Monza" flip filler cap fell off mine as well. Its held to the tank by a plastic ring that doesn't seem to make for a strong fixing.
Great review. Id argue the clutch isnt that heavy similar to a t7. But not on the hydraulic soft side at all. Its a really fun bike. Never owned a wind friendly bike so i dont care about wind blast. Stay off the hiways theyre boring anyway. Dirt roads are an absolute blast on this thing. Steve Kimrad sandblast rallying shows us how haha. Fun and sexy are the key words here
Gorgeous motorcycle. Not something I’d have as a primary adv bike but I’d love to take it up mellow gravel forest roads or just cruise.
Sorry you missed dinner with your family for this but it was a completely interesting, thorough and useful review. Where is this test trail located. Live in the NE and would love to come out and ride this area. Again, Excellent appraisal of this bike. Beautiful bike, outstanding features to augment weight and handling. Unfortunately the dual sport and scrambler world does not make a bike to fit the majority of shorter folks who would otherwise have more options( except Suzuki DR). Really appreciate the review
Excellent review as always! Speaking of weird, charming bikes: it's about time you did a full review of the Moto Guzzi V85tt! 😁
Seems like one pf those bikes. In spite of its design flaws, it's charm will win you over. Nobody is gonna buy this bike without knowing what there getting. Props to Triumph for making such beautiful machine!! I want one.. :)
Thats the NICEST adv bike by a looooong shot.
Right on. Wanted to see a review on this bike.
Thank you for the lots of detail. You mention adventure bikes you prefer, which for you are best off-road, especially to migrate from tar?
I agree with all your points, but work around them a bit with: Added pivotpegz to improve standing up riding and the Triumph ‘scrambler touring screen’ works really well, Anakee Wilds are great off-road, OK on road for me. As a long term target tourer, but newby off-road, it is high, (top)heavy for sure. But also comfortable and great fun, and I think perhaps a good compromise for dirt road touring.
Time will tell.
That bike is so beautiful !!!!! 🙂
Very nice, informative review, although many other reviews I have seen suggest the bike is not top heavy and that the weight is low down. I was also surprised by your comment about how heavy the clutch is because I understand that this XC has en excellent slipper clutch. Are the US models different?
have been toying with the idea of trading in my Tiger 850 Sport, but given how much touring I do i have a sneaking suspicion I would regret it due to the lack of wind protection. Keep the good reviews coming. Thanks.
Great review! Not making the new 400 scrambler an off-road twin was a big mistake...
Interesting choice for the dealer to have a radiator guard and knobby tires but no crash bars on the demo bike.
I have the XC version and I've been loving it very much. It's got more off road capability than its rider and it feels stable yet flickable on pavement. Sometimes I wish I had better weather protection but then I'd lose the cool classic looks. I see my bike every time I look out the kitchen window so I want my bike to look good. I also like the big bike feeling of the Scrambler 1200 because I'm a big guy. I've test ridden the Husqvarna Norden but it feels too small, like a kids' bike.
How would you compare this to the Africa Twin off road wise?
I appreciate this video. As a fat guy, with a kitted out Africa Twin. I was thinking about trading it in on one of these. I now know that's gonna be a lot of things to change.
Great unbias review. Although this bike looks great and has some nice attributes, I will no longer consider purchasing it based on the negative aspects you pointed out. As you stated, there are too many other adventure bikes that can do everything better. If your priority is to look at this bike in the garage more than ride it, it would be a good choice. Other than that there are way too many negatives.
Thanks for saving me the time of taking one out on a test ride!
Aside from adding crash protection, this bike has to have the suspension set up properly and replace the foot pegs with wider ones before going off-road. Those two changes can make a big difference in ridability. It can be very challenging with the weight, but it is something folks can learn to adapt to.
It's not the greatest at anything (besides getting comments 😂) but man is it a blast.
These points completely correct.
Excellent review Ian!
Excellent review❤
It would be great to hear, at the end of the review, whether you would buy the bike or not. For me, this bike is an absolute dream.
I love this bike!!! Thanks for the review.
Thank you for the lots of detail. You mention adventure bikes you prefer, which for you are best off-road, especially to migrate from tar?
I agree with all your points, but work around them a bit with: Added pivotpegz to improve standing up riding and the Triumph ‘scrambler touring screen’ works really well, Anakee Wilds are great off-road, OK on road for me. It is high, (top)heavy for sure. But also comfortable and great fun, and I think perhaps a good compromise for dirt road touring.
Time will tell.
It's actually insane to me that some of these bikes still don't save the mode when you restart the bike. It's 2023 like seriously. Imagine if the background and all your settings reset on your PC every time you restarted it. It's such a small feature and it's pretty ridiculous that it's missing, especially on a bike at this price point. More importantly, it's an offroad bike, and it's likely to be stalled or restarted on trail. It'd be a nightmare to have to go through the ride modes while stalled on a hill or something.
Other than that, I LOVE the styling of this bike, such a beautiful machine. Triumph and RE have nailed the retro styling, I love Triumph's modern flare to it.
I loved my Honda 350 scrambler. Why is this one blowing blue smoke when you rev it up?
excellent review like always! ANYWAY so... when is maggie getting his ROAD KING?
I never had a problem with wind on a motorcycle even on high speeds on naked bikes even the ones with the same sitting position as this. If anything, I enjoy it.
As always a great review! However, you said there is no real competition if someone wants this kind of style. How about the Caballero 500 Rally? I would REALLY like to see you reviewing this bike. It's light, it's got 200/200 mm suspension, and it looks fantastic!
I noticed on the video you have no pre load on the rear suspension. I don't know why triumph stock settings are to back. My bike new from the dealer had no preload, rebound and compersion all the way to hard! once set correctly it transformed the bike.
Beautiful bike. This reason alone I would purchase one.
Cheers for the review. I want to buy and love this bike more than a cold beer but ultimately, I do like my right leg rare, not well done. That is a dealbreaker for me, especially in Australia in summer. Such a shame as it looks like the duck's nuts, sounds throaty stock and it will smash paved and unpaved roads. I even spent time trying to find a way to reroute the exhaust, but, no cigar. Bugger.
Great review, thankyou
Looks realy Cool. Thanks fore the video
This is not just a capable bike. It resembles the ancient scramblers of the sixties and it is very well designed and with general premium finishes . The wind blast can be severely reduced to a point of meaningfulness and the heat from the exhaust to the leg is minimum and only noticed if you’re riding a lot In intense city traffic, otherwise it never bothered me. On the left side you can put a Triumph bag to carry your things and the passenger seat can be used to put another soft bag also, so it is capable of doing some touring with it. Even with the stock pipes because of the high position where they are located it’s possible to ear very clear the engine all the time and that sums an extra pleasure to the riding experience. For me the bike would be the XC model, once that I won’t go off-road with it. The only thing that would miss is the shaft drive, but we can’t have everything at the same time! Nice and very well prepared work on reviewing the bike, as it is a rule of the bike reviewing on the channel. Thank you 👌🏻
I wait this review so log. Thank's. I like it.
I really wonder if the exhaust system from the Speed Twin 1200 would fit on this machine. I couldn't care less about high side-mount exhaust, even if it was a signature styling back in the day. Something beneath the foot and up-swept in the rear would be fine by me.
Great review and a beautiful bike.