Avengers: Endgame but 23% Smarter
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Avengers: Endgame but 23% Smarter
Captain Marvel decides to take matters into her own hands, literally.
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Written by Michael Adams Davis and Michael Schroeder
Directed by Michael Schroeder
Produced by Brian Fisher and David Odom
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Edited by Brian Fisher
Cinematography by Will Greenberg
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I really hate how reasonable an approach this would have been. I want to go back to my old life where I hadn't considered this alternative
Right. Infinity War was a better movie than Endgame in my opinion.
Just like this video had made me consider things I never considered before this comment encapsulate my pain that I didn’t even know I had yet😂
Mmmh the best option would've still been returning the stones, tinkering with the stones like you can just undo and redo whatever was done is something they don't really know its side effects, like hulk said he wished for Natasha to come back but the stones didn't agree with him, so there is an aspect of uncertainty to how they work, tony never planned to snap his fingers, he just had to since there were no other option, i think what's crazier is Tony's nanotech suit becoming an infinity gauntlet... Like try to explain how that works 😅
Because MCU dont have Power level difference in heroes taken for consideration. They just want Ironman do die even if that makes no sense
People would have been pissed. I remember fans not wanting Carol to come in Kill Thanos and save the day.
Carol: "I wished it. Snapped my fingers. It was super easy."
Peter: "Barely an inconvenience?"
Cap (from across the field): "I understood that reference!"
Pitch meeting's references are tight!?
🤣🤣🤣
@@edgbarrayeah yeah yeah yeah
Wow wow wow wow…wow!
@@rapid13 no it's owow wow wow...
...wow.
So the last two Avengers movie was just a plan by steven strange to trick tony into committing suicide?
So, the lesson is, don't fuck with Stephen Strange?
Hey dont forget the fact for the plan to work dr strange relied on a random rat
@@clintbrew Considering that their universe is owned by a mouse...
And Dr. Strange's Multiverse of Madness is still a terrible movie.
Yeah he realy doesn't like Tony 😂😂😂
Also considering her power effectively comes from ONE Infinity Stone, pretty sure using all six would have some kind of backlash. Then again this is why in the comics, the stupid backlash rule didn't apply. Literally anyone could use them, that's why they were so scary.
Yes. Captain Marvel could've ended Thanos and his army by snapping.
Even if Captain Marvel could of died from the snap, I rather had her died than Tony!
Sure she was gonna die from an energy surge, ONE OF HER MOST KNOWN POWERS IS ENERGY ABSORBING.
@@Renkencen How come?
yeah that's silly logic. If the power of an infinity stone could be used to "tank" the backlash, the backlash would be irrelevant to begin with, since you need to have the six stones
Glad to know it wasn't just me that thought, "Hey, Carol's powers come from an infinity stone. Shouldn't she be able to handle the gauntlet?"
that's backward. She shouldn't be able to survive using the gauntlet BECAUSE her power comes from a stone, compared to people who have other super powers.
@typeOU et co that makes no sense. If her powers come from the stones then that just means she can easily handle and know how to use that energy and power better than anyone....
@@typeouetco1626 wait didn’t Thanos use the power stone to literally punch Carol? Yeah carol was removing the gauntlet easily from Thanos and Thanos remove the power stone just to punch her in the face.
Yea they had no idea what to do with her between her movie and this one they needed to have an actual meeting before just throwing new characters in.
I feel like they just didn’t trust Captain Marvel to do the snap at all, so Dr strange never saw a future where she did it and things were over easily.
Ahhh at last Brie Larsons stunt double getting the credit she deserves :p
I always had a problem with infinity war and endgame because there were so many easier ways for the heroes to succeed without dying and the writers just used doctor strange’s “only one way” as an excuse to justify everyone’s stupidity in those movies.
Problem with time travel in so many movies is that the characters have all the time they need to prepare and yet they don't so that the movie can happen.
Welcome to comics, I'm sure you'll find may ways that writers could have done better in hindsight to fuel your ego 😂
Well it's not the writers, but the contract by RDJ was over and he didn't wanna play iron man anymore, so yeah....this is the only one way for the directors
This is what birthed Marvel Phase 4.
@@flamelover1746 time travel stories do be like that. Like I’m glad they went back to New York for the nostalgia, but nothing was stopping them from all travelling to Wakanda RIGHT before Thanos snapped and yoinking the completed gauntlet last second. That way Nat didn’t have to die, 2014 Thanos wouldn’t get involved and so Tony probably wouldn’t die either. Simple lol
I hate how much this actually makes sense, totally just blew my mind, given the internal logic of the Infinity Stones and that Captain Marvel's powers came from an Infinity Stone, so if anything her using the Gauntlet could've amplified her power.
It was on the nose. Like smallish gauntlet's feats of power costed Thanos literally nothing. Only the big snap had a backlash.
It actually makes no sense at all. The Gauntlet actually exacted a toll from the moment it is put on and connected to the bearer *regardless of using it.* And per the Red Skull the soul stone cannot be wielded without sacrifice, which you ignore and don't understand. Lol. The film really goes over your heads. You are looking at a chess match and coming up with a solution from checkers, and deciding that the chess masters must be dumb. When really, it's you who are being quite clueless.
@@summertyme5748 Holy shit you're coping so hard.
I'm not the one who wants to rewrite the film so that Tony doesn't have do die. lol. That's coping.
So Wanda could use it too?
To be fair, they DID call Captain Marvel in the movies and she flat out told them she had better things to do. I think her exact excuse was "I have more to worry about than earth".
Thank you 🙏
Exactly!! She came when she could
No. We rewatched to check. She said that at the beginning when they were just doing a check in/a catch up scene for the audience, before Scott came back. When they figured out time travel and started forming a plan, they did not call her. Not even a scene where they tried to call her and they couldn't get a connection. Because if they said "hey we figured out a way to reverse this" she of course would have come back.
@The Warp Zone would she have come back, though?
Danvers is so far up her own ass that it's hard to believe she would have.
Hmm, except for a glory seeking girl power moment.
@@TheWarpZone i think they covered that plot home fair enough. she is unreachable when she is that far off world. They had no way of 'calling' her. All Nick fury had was a pager. And she did tell black widow that she will likely not be at the next security meeting next month. I know it was a cheap cop out but this was her exact lines ' So you might not see me for a long time'
I feel like nobody on the Avengers knew Captain Marvel enough to trust her to snap, so Strange never saw the rare timeline where she said “I’ll do it myself” then did it effortlessly
Then give it to Thor then
@@Deathmare235 Thor would try to do more than just killing Thanos in more timelines than strange should be comfortable with
@@tetragaming6332 like snapping his entire army
Or maybe he _did_ see a possible outcome where she tried to do the snap herself and something went horribly wrong?
Basically strange saw what he wanted to see.
Just taking Carol with them on the trip back in time makes more sense. Arrive on Titan before the big fight (so Thanos has the Soul Stone), help take the Gauntlet off, and kill him. I know Dr. Strange had the whole "14 million timelines" thing, but I can't help but wonder if those were based on whether or not he knew Carol existed.
Yup! That's why we wrote she was surprised she wasn't called sooner. Not having her in the time heist makes no sense.
Captain Marvel specifically said she would have been "out of reach" for any communication for a while at the beginning of the movie.
@@giulytheboy yeah, but come on, that's a writer trick. Sidelining powerful characters allows the others to shine. Like when Nightcrawler is stuck on search and rescue because his teleportation power makes certain fights trivially easy. Same with Superman in many Justice League stories.
@@ericpeterson8732 oh yes, yes. It was just an excuse to leave her out of the movie. But I can understand it. Endgame was supposed to be a movie about the old Avengers group. Except from them we have only Nebula and Rocket who act as sidekicks. Captain Marvel presence wasn't necessary in the heist portion of the movie anyway
@@giulytheboy and ant man it’s mainly the ogs but also other few characters
That was at least 25% Smarter.
She had a major weakness though that made this impossible. The majority of the audience really didn't like her very much, and so the execs had to cut her from all but the most essential scenes. No hero is more powerful than the audience's wrath.
Nah, what weakness? she was last minute addition to the already written story, due to wonder woman success they were in pressure to make a women centric movie and they had to add her in the endgame, if you remove her character from the movie there's no significant change in the story at all.
"the mayority of the audience" who doesn't like her are just burt hurt idiots that didn't want the strongest avenger to be a woman. I watched the movie and I still have no idea why there was so much backlash. Yeah the actress is not great but she gave a solid response. There is no rational explanation why people didn't like her besides weak egos being hurt.
@@linl.hendric1438 "burt hurt" ahahah
@@linl.hendric1438 Don't know about majority, it wasn't about being strongest woman it was more about her interviews and views? and yeah whole thing surrounding it how people reacted towards it was stupid.I was excited for the movie, Her portrayal was great, but the movie was fuckin bonkers really stupid story, movie made no sense at all.
@@linl.hendric1438 first of all she’s not the strongest avenger, wanda killed captain marvel in 5 seconds 🤣, second her movie sucks, in which she just punches air & becomes a hero, last- actress did lame in that role, literally people can’t watch her artificial acting for 5 minutes straight 🙃
Am I the only one who thought that Captain Marvel should've just flown away into space with the Infinity Stones?
@@KlyosXA i think they meant fly back into space so thanos couldnt get them in the fight and then return to avengers base to send them back in time after thanos and his army is defeated.
Antman or Wasp could just shrank the Gauntlet and flown away with it making it impossible for Thanos to use it. Doctor Strange could sling ring to any other location. There's dozens of way better plans than the nonsense that happened during the movie. There was zero reason they had to try return the stones back to their originaL timelines midbattle. Had the movie made a reason, like they only had X amount of time to return them before the changes became permanent then yes they had to return them immediately, but as we see in the ending, cap can take as long as he likes to return them, so WHY BOTHER? It just risked the bad guys getting the gauntlet back trying use the van midbattle, plus the van getting destroyed during the fight risked whomever went back with it could get lost forever.
me too actually, she could just....leave
nope
also captain marvel=op so no one could EVER stop her
Hell captain marvel could solo most of thanos’s army. Seriously they should call her more.
Right?! She's literally the MCU version of Superman!
It would have made more Sense to call her in Avengers: Infinity War. Problem Solved.
Captain Marvel was written as TOO strong.
It’s called plot convenience. That’s why.
@@wolwerine0007 well, the Avengers didn't know about her then, only Fury did.
I love how Noah is back as Spider-Man.
Like how Odom's our resident Batman, Noah's our resident Spider-Man
"Who's up for shawarma? Tony's buying" cracks me up everytime 🤣
Tbh, that is the tough part about having High Tier powered characters in a universe that has only shown low-mid tier powered characters.
You lose a lot of the stakes when you remember that one individual could solve all the problems that require firepower, strength, or energy.
Though Thor was once High Tier, but they severely depowered him in Endgame.
☝️This. If you make the rules in your story you gotta follow them. Easy fix would be to make Cap Marvel around Thor's power level.
They de powered Thor cuz they wanted She-Thor and Valkyrie to take the limelight in Thor 4. Obviously the fans wasn’t too happy.
@@TheGary108 Like Star Wars, we don't acknowledge those movies
But Captain Marvel is not actually strong enough to snap the gauntlet without injury. It isn't mentioned outright in the movies, but a major part of her powerset is the ability to absorb energy. She was only able to destroy that massive ship because she got powered up by the shots that it fired at her. She was only able to overpower Thanos physically for a moment (when he used the Power Stone to blast her) because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet. She's at a similar level to Thor in the movies.
@@TheWarpZone She is around Thor's power level.
This outcome focuses on how Carol could've used the gauntlet to defeat Thanos, but considering Strange forsaw so many futures, I find myself wondering if something terrible happened after Carol used the stones. Did she die? Was the gauntlet not compatible? Did she become more powerful after using them? Did she become a tyrant after using them? I wonder if Strange saw what would happen, and if he did, I wonder what he saw.
So much this. There is no question in my mind that there was more than one way they could have defeated Thanos. However he told them there was only one way because there was only one "best" way. The fact Tony Stark was the only major casualty and everyone else has happy endings was a miracle. Who knows what could have happened if the TVA ended up stepping in to intervene or someone got the gauntlet who refused to give it up afterwards and the stones never got returned and they literally end up dooming other universes. Things could have gone sideways real fast
Probably could've fixed this problem if they mentioned the Gauntlet was specifically designed to only be used by certain people those being Bruce since he was their go to person and Tony as a failsafe in case they still needed it and Hulk wasn't avaliable.
Captain Marvel deserves more credit than she's bargained.
Then how come they were afraid of Thanos using it? Dude got it on his hand
@@shishsquaredThe person is referring to the Avengers
@@Problemsolver434 the person specified "certain people". That isn't out of the subset of the avengers, but of everyone. Thanos included. Thanos being able to even put on the nano gauntlet disproves this commenters idea
@@shishsquared I meant the Avengers PROGRAMED the Gauntlet so that only certain people, namely people the Avengers agree upon can wear it. And Tony adds himself as a last minute failsafe.
Really didn't think I needed to explain that part.
Quill : How many did u saw
Strange :14 million and 605 outcomes
Tony : how many did we won
Strange : 1
The 14 million and 606th outcome be like
I would also like to point out that in the comics, Cpt Marvel can absorb energy to boost her own power.
So she can't really have too much energy.
So I haven't read the comics, but this clearly seems to be what happens both in the Captain Marvel movie right before she goes binary and all the lights start flickering, and in Endgame when she's fighting Thanos for the gauntlet, and I have no idea why I haven't seen this spoken about online AT ALL.
Carol Using the Stones is Sooo In character for her...
She doesn't like to take orders at all
I'm going to chalk this up to Carol seeing that oversized glove and not realizing it could potentially shrink down to fit her (since she wasn't there when it was made or used by the Hulk) or (more likely) she was just overconfident in her abilities to get the gauntlet gone and take out Thanos & Co. by herself.
That is exactly correct. Nor does she have any of the Cyber tech suits the Avengers are wearing to interact with Stark Tech. The video makes it look like the Hulk sized Gauntlet is a perfect fit and she should just stick her hand in it.
Nice try - and they fooled a few discussants with it, but that's not what happened in the film.
Also Danvers would indeed have more confidence in her ability to fight Thanos and prevent him from getting the Gauntlet - she would not abandon her own ability to take a wild chance on an alien technology which could literally destroy the Universe if anything goes wrong.
The video really wants Danvers to act like she already saw Tony die, so she will do anything - to make that not happen. This is a film *watching* error, not a filmmaking error.
Its not even that she didnt realize its that she couldnt resize it. The nanotech in the suit was busted at that point. Tony was only able to snap because he allowed the stones to flow through the working nanotech in his own suit. What CM should really have done is just fly straight through thanos. If she can fly through his ship she can just blow a human sized hole straight through thanos and anyone that stands between her and thanos.
This is canon but it ended up on the cutting room floor
This is one of the many reasons that I wish superhero cinematic adaptations would leave Superman grade characters out, or truly and permanently nerf them for the cinematic universe ( kind of like Danver’s restrained state in Captain Marvel). I know it wouldn’t be comic accurate, but I think it would make for better storytelling.
I disagree. I actually prefer this kind of writing where characters uses their abilities in a logical and consistent manner. Its the mark of a good storyteller when they are able to keep such details consistent and satisfying. Its why in the comics they typically make sure to keep the Superman grade characters reserved for adversaries of their own level or have a good reason for why they aren't involved in a toss up like this. Few things are as annoying as when you see a character like the Flash get his ass kicked our outrun by a regular dude just so the plot can happen or see Tony Stark forget that he has an AI plugged into the ENTIRE world wide web, including every nuclear missile silo, but somehow not know that he has employees stealing his own barf tech or hydra infiltrating shield after he personally hacked all their records.
and then you thousands of comic nerds pointing out how they can easily do this and how * insert buzz word * are running their childhood characters
I mean... even Superman has weakpoints... green crystall and magic
Honestly, I'm mostly familiar with Carol Danvers from the original Mar-Vell comic run. Air Force pilots are definitely tough, have superb vision, good reflexes, and lots of other things. I preferred the original version of Carol as head of security for an Air Force base. Not saying the movie version is unintelligent or anything. The version I'm used to is just considerably smarter and more cunning. I probably would have made a Captain Marvel movie about Mar-Vell, introduce Carol, and have her get powers and eventually become Warbird (Ms. Marvel is interesting, but I'd probably leave that open for Kamala Khan). Granted, this is coming from someone who wanted the first Ant-Man movie to be about Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, so those types of ideas might not have been good for the movies.
True but wasn’t the events that went down supposed to happen because of what Dr strange said I’m infinity war
Do another one where Strange just cuts off Thanos' hand using a partal like Wong literally did the same to one of Thanos' children at the beginning of Infinity War.
I think HISHE did that already 😄
THIS! Don't introduce a superman power level hero and then not use them! At least sideline them properly like Goku needing to heal for 10 episodes!
They did. "She has ummm...some more important stuff to do somewhere else. Nevermind the details." "More important than saving half the population of ALL LIVING THINGS in the universe?" *smack* "Quiet you!"
End Game more like mid game lol
You’d be crucified if you said that while this movie was still brand new and while the MCU was still well loved.
@@jakedebruin2246 Yes he would have been lmfao this cracks me up now.
Either that, or she could’ve flown the stones into space, stored them on the moon or something, (since she took out Thanos ship, he couldn’t follow her or get the stones). And then she could have flown right back and taken out Thanos.
0:52 ...yeah here's what actually would've happened
Captain marvel: or I could just *slips on guantlet* AAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! I UNDERESTIMATED PAIN!!!!!
She can't even wear the damned thing as it is fit for the Hulk and cybernetically operated - Tony/Banner/Rocket, with nano tech which Danvers *knows nothing about.*
Yet In the video cheat - the glove fits her perfectly, lol, so the whole vid is really a test of how the video audience is 23% dumber and isn't supposed to notice that. lol.
Ok. I guess it's 'time' for TVA to show up.
Good luck arresting the Captain Marvel with 6 infinity stones by using a bunch of glowing sticks.
I'm pretty sure it will be 'slightly' easier than arresting Infinity Ultron or Bully Mcguire.
The TVA from Loki makes no sense at all. After all they get beat completely by Sylvie who is just a little girl with common sense, yet she defeats the TVA, the cloud demon McGuffin Alioth and then kills Kang too.
Loki is legit garbage writing.
They’d probably just reset the timeline.
Unfortunately in order for this to work you’d have to make captain marvel way more than 23% smarter.
HA!
Or likeable
Captain Marvel is not real. The writers can make her as dumb as they need or as smart as they need for the story.
Yeah because as said said in the movies the only people cursed with knowledge is able to wield and use the gauntlet.
Yeah, the Russo Bros. did some pretty bad writing in Endgame. Like forgetting to portal in Captain Marvel is the same way Dani forgot about the Iron Fleet.
Well I guess to be fair, it’s a little hard to think about stuff like that in the heat of the moment especially when you’re in the middle of a giant war that could decide the fate of the entire universe
Pretty easy since all the heroes are so suicidal heroic and are facing a genocidal egomaniac.
The just need one person, like Tony, to sacrifice themselves to end the war rather than risking entire army to send the gauntlet into the quantum space.
This was the real Captain Marvel movie.
I don't agree with that. It's not that hard to act logically in the heat of the moment. It's all about getting used to react logically in any situation, that way it won't be easy to NOT react logically in the heat of the moment.
*Dr. Stange and his million views on how to win this left the chat
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk I just wonder if they would've actually sent the gauntlet into the Quantum Realm by mistake, a certain someone would've got his hands on it there and he might've used it for things way worse than Thanos would've.
Remember how Carol was shown Absorbing the power of the stones during her 1vs1 with thanos.
(Then thanos grabbed Power stone and punched her)
But that was literally showing that she can infact absorb their powers & stay intact...
I can already hear the Russo brothers' answer "Yeah, Dr Strange saw this possibiliyt in the many futures he peeked and it doesn't work in the long run"
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME!
But maybe…call me sooner next time?? Danvers, out 💫
Thanks for the smarter ending.
This Endgame works better than the movie version.
Cap: "Who's up for shawarma? Tony's buying!"
Dr. Strange just wanted Tony to die 😂😂😂
Damn it now I can't watch this finale any other way
This is what happens when you make overpowered characters
Wow this would have been a worse ending than She Hulk and that's hard
The only good thing about She-Hulk was the ending.
@@Erlewyn Nah, the only good thing was Daredevil.
@@bable6314Preach
I think it may not have worked for her given her power comes from the stones. I imagine you couldn't just use the power of the stones to protect you from the stones, otherwise it would be the same as wishing for infinite wishes.
Yeah, that checks out with the way the Space and Mind Stones interacted in The Avengers.
They could have also done this at the very beginning, before Captain Marvel even arrived. Sacrificing one person at the beginning would be preferable to engaging in the major battle, where presumably far more than just one person would die.
_Sacrificing one person at the beginning would be preferable to engaging in the major battle_
Nope. Clint is the only one who had the gauntlet and he could not have worn it all without being incinerated immediately.
@@summertyme5748 Yeah, it went from Clint, to a literal king, to a 16 year old.
@@bable6314 Correct and though Spidey fans don't like it - because he is a 16 year old and not 28 year old Maguire pretending to be an 18 year old who nonetheless acts like a 28 year old, lol...... it's clear that Parker is hurt and terrified, and he takes shelter - when Captain Marvel finds him, hiding from the bombardment from space from an alien Warship which could in fact kill him at any moment.
In this video he is explaining about the Gauntlet to Captain Marvel, because Warp Zone forgets that HE WAS DEAD for the past 5 years and has less knowledge than Danvers.
Danvers is leading a team on a specific mission, hence the line: "Don't worry, she's got help."
Yeah, that works too 🙂
i always hate how they never told her to just get it far away
This is where the 14,000,605 timelines come into play. They only completely won in 1 of them. So had she done this, somehow they would still end up losing the war.
For example: The Avengers did try to contact but she basically said she had more important matters to attend to in space. So she would not have been on the same page with the plan as everyone else. And so she may not have "wished" for exactly what was needed when she snapped like Ironman did,or like Hulk did earlier in the movie. Which in turn could cause the Avengers to lose in the end.
This is just an example. But they only won in one way, and that was how it happened in the movie.
I found this version of Cap Marvel way more compelling than the original.
This version of Captain Marvel has more personality than the original did.
Not to be a huge nerd lol. But I’d just like to add two cents.
Captain marvel has the power of one stone. The space stone. It’s not like she’s god.
But yeah if Tony can do it pretty much any hero can but they would die.
You just made Carol Denvers an even *bigger* Mary-Sue than Rey Skywalker.
But if that happened we wouldn’t get the iconic and inspiring “girls get it done” scene where all the girl heroes team up to fight and all the boy heroes disappear and do nothing for like 3 minutes.
That was a ridiculous scene. They should have just let the female characters more meaningfully participate in the whole story, rather than relegating them to one "bonus scene".
Why didn't they just use the Infinity Gauntlet to make themselves immune to its backlash? First snap makes you immune, second snap heals the damage that was already done by the first snap, and then you can just start giving all of reality the "OH NO SHE DIDN'T" snaps without taking any damage!
Hulk's hand was already getting damaged before snapped. So, even if they had planned to immune themselves from backslashes, they would need the 1st snap to heal themselves, and then proceed to the steps you mentioned
@@shabibchoudhury3856
Nope, because then you'll still get the backlash from the snap just trying to heal yourself.
Snapping the gauntlet, in and of itself, still does damage.
You can deal with the "idle" damage from just wearing the thing (at least long enough to make the first snap), but not the" active" damage from actually snapping.
It's kind of like the difference between having your whole arm on fire vs holding a live grenade in your hand.
You make yourself immune to the grenade first, THEN you put out the fire damage that was already there and heal your damage.
@@toasega I like your analogy.
Another star turn from Noah.
If she saved the day the amount of MCU fan backlash would of been tremendous if we’re being real. She was given limited moments because they wanted to give a farewell the O6 Avengers
Truthful scenario but Captain Marvel wasn’t aware of how the gauntlet worked and I don’t think the Avengers couldn’t contact Marvel easily.
My only gripe is that they did call her at the beginning of the movie and she basically said "fuck off I'm busy doing space shit, I'll get to you when I can"
But once they figured out time travel, they DIDN'T call her. Which makes no sense. They figured out TIME TRAVEL! No reason to rush. (Hence the "half baked plan" reference)
@@TheWarpZone That is a fair counterpoint, but if they had not called her after figuring out time travel how did she get to the Avenger's base from space at the exact right time since she didn't come with Wong and friends?
Hah, I always thought it was absurd that she didn't just B-line it to the van but clearly I wasn't thinking simple enough either lol
Because you are not paying attention to the film, or following the logic of the fighting.
They have to get to the Van - get the stones to the van - operate the Quantum Tunnel and use Pym particles to shrink the gauntlet into the Quantum Realm. Then they have to prevent Thanos army from destroying the van.
Captain Marvel literally cannot do that on her own.
They actually had a good strategy but even then it wasn't enough as Thanos outsmarted them and destroyed the tunnel before they could reach it, causing Danvers to lose the stones.
Bee-line is not answer. It's a dumb strategy. She is at the van, but can't get the stones into the Quantum Tunnel without help from Wasp or Scott - and can't prevent Thanos army from destroying the van if there is no suppression fire from the team. *Thanos whole army is surrounding that Van and she is charging into it.*
HOW IS SHE SUPPOSED TO STOP THEM FROM DESTROYING THE QUANTUM TUNNEL?
yk all these possible alternatives makes dr strange look like an idiot for not seeing this out of over 14 million possible futures
Dr. Strange is a genius - it’s the ‘solutions’ that are idiotic.
Every idiot as a 23% smarter video curing everything from cancer to bad breath. 😂
The gauntlet was hulk sized though. And after the first snap it was damaged to where the broken nanotech couldnt be resized anymore to fit a normal hand. The only reason tony was able to snap was that he allowed the stones to flow through the working nanotech in his own iron man suit. The gauntlet itself could only fit hulk and thanos.
Maybe they should have gotten someone else to play Carol. Then they could have used her more in Endgame.
HOLY SHIT. I never thought about that before! I thought they were gonna make a joke about how she could have gotten it to the van by herself.
Van was destroyed - and the Quantum Tunnel blew up along with the Gauntlet causing Danvers to lose it. Danvers would never have tried to stick her hand in the Gauntlet which doesn't fit, and there is no proof that she could wield it even if it did. She was KNOCKED OUT by Thanos when he bare handed one stone - so the notion that she can handle the full Infinity Gauntlet is without any logic or merit. It's just wishful thinking.
1:29 Spider-Man: Yeah I also saw The Hulk try it on, and he makes you look like an energy reserving lightbulb.
i dont know for sure but arnt her powers like more powerful enemy attacks are more powerful she gets.. here stones are just taking her energy and she doesn't have a source to absorb from... just my understanding, it could all be wrong.. let me know if someone here read comics and understands her power
Love her or hate her, there's no denying that Captain Marvel would have absolutely survived snapping on her own.
CAN WE JUST APPRECIATE HOW GOOD ACTOR NOAH IS FOR SOMEONE WHO STARTED HIS ACTING CAREER ON CZcams?
fun fact he is not start acting career on youtube. he does some acting on nick and disney but yeah his acting definitely improving
This video specifically goes out of its way to beg the question, "So why didn't we think of that earlier?".
Ah yes, Mary Sue to the rescue. Ability to save everything except her sequel movie
I flipping love this.
I literally asked this to everyone around me after the movie was over on release day. It was such an obvious option.
_For every problem there is a solution that is easy, simple, and wrong_
See, if this *actually* happened, all the men would've disappeared, too.
That is... spot on lmao.
Hadn't thought of that at all but it's 100% accurate.
More Likeable Captain Marvel than MCU's.
I feel vindicated for saying this in the theater (a little louder than was polite) and getting shushed! But the whole argument about who should snap was solved when she showed up.
You were wrong then and still are. She can't snap without the soul stone sacrifice, and she can't overpower the Infinity Stones as she was knocked out by a single stone.
yep, avengers endgame and marvel phase 4-5 is just stupid, irreasonable sloppy decisions all over the place
Hey guys, remember this can't happen because if they did then the TVA would erase the timeline and everyone would die. I still don't get why Marvel thought the TVA is a good idea
Scarlet witch's power also came from an infinity stone , and if watch Wonda vision , she was a natural born witch , that's why she survive Hydra's experiment of the mind stone , her brother Pietro survive the Hydra experiment because Wonda had casted an improbability spell, the same spell she used as a kid to prevent a missile warhead ( build by Stark Industry) from exploding in her home ( which the day her parent was killed ,but she and brother survive because the bomb didn't explode )
This really would’ve worked. She could’ve flown up into space and made the snap. I doubt it would even hurt her. She’s basically a walking infinity stone
"She could’ve flown up into space and made the snap."
Nope:
1) She can't snap without sacrificing someone she loves. This is the whole point of the soul stone sacrifice in both films. Granted this site is a bit of a simp, so you don't get it, but that's what the story is.
2) Thanos has an entire fleet of ships to follow her into space.
3) Remember she couldn't even make it to the Tunnel without it blowing up and the explosion causing her to lose the Gauntlet.
4) Most of all - she runs away to space - that means Thanos ships can Nuke earth, the only reason they didn't do so is BECAUSE the stones are on earth and again - he has an entire fleet of Q ships you are forgetting about - not just the mother ship.
If Brie longfoot had her way, then would this be how the movie actually ended.
That looks so much like Sylvie from the Loki series!
I think the biggest thing this is forgetting is that carol can’t just show up when the avengers call her, she doesn’t have a ship like the guardians and is out helping with other planets are the regular. Also, mcu captain marvel doesn’t really listen well, she’s super cocky and loves to do things on her own. It’s super in character for her to just show up late.
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Captain America has quite the belly there 😁
A better way of thinking about it is that He who remains specifically chose the solution. But in the multiverse, all the smarter solutions were used as well as some universes that lost to Thanos.
I like this. Maybe Tony needed to die so that Kang would never come to be?
I love Caps throwaway line at the end of 'Tony's fine'. As if it's such a normal thing to say. 😂😂😂
Dr Strange in Infility War:
14,000,605 = Tony dying
14,000,606 = Carol using the Gauntlet
Dr Strange: "I saw 14,000,605 possibilities, and only one worked."
I don’t think the nano gauntlet are able to go back to regular size because of how small a human hand would be in such a big thing
Hmmmm. The nano gauntlet, using nanotechnology, started off at the size of a human hand, then grew to fit Hulk. I'm betting it could go back down.
@@FutureDeep well we’ll never know since it turned to dust along with Thanos
@@axelnilsson5124 RIP nano gauntlet.
Hulk honestly shouldn't have been hurt by the infinity gauntlet, or his arm should have just healed back.
Here’s another idea why not Captain Marvel just fly into orbit with the infinity gauntlet and just wait till the fight is over to go retrieve it. Or Fly to another location on Earth to put the gauntlet.
Remember when she could have ended it but acted cocky so he removed the power stone and punched her with it. Because I do. The movie would have ended there if she took it instead
Thanos surived the deletion of half life in the universe.
Hulk surived the restoring of half life in the universe.
Powerful tasks, it makes sense the incredible stress on the body from the radiations that they caused to Thanos and Hulk....but to vanish the remaining part of Thanos' army, it wouldn't be such a huge toll to bear.
Tony should have survived. or Doctor Strange should have used only the time stone to revive him. Just like Thanos did with Vision
another possible smart ending: tony just built a robot to get the stone instead of sending nebula. they literally know that nebula has a memory chip. nebula could have given instructions before everyone went.
Or she could have just flown the stones to the Moon😂😂
Thanos has entire army of ships to follow her there [she only took out the mother ship] - you guys just forget about all the details which is why you can't write films, only watch them while 1/2 understanding them.
Meanwhile with Danvers having run away with the stones. Thanos fleet just nukes the earth as they have no more use for it. [oops].
@@summertyme5748 she can easily destroy anything in her path especially considering she has the stones in hand
Would have made for a fun WhatIf. Now imagine Mysterio attacking but this time Iron Man is still around.
Contributing for the why had to be the way the movie settled: 🤔
1- The Gauntlet need to charge.
2- She would absorb the gauntlet energy messing up the circuits and it would not work properly.
3- SHE had to recharge to not fry from the snap, after space traveled and torpedoed herself Thanos' ship. Still powerfull but maybe not snap safe.
4- She, like almost everyone there, didn't know that anyone could use it.
5- Dr. Strange guided the only sequence of events that could result in a satisfactory result, and that was Stark using his nano gauntlet.
6...
1 - Thanos used it 2 minutes later so it didn't.
2 - Hulk absorbed the gamma energy when he did the snap so this point proves it would have worked if she absorbed excess energy.
3 - 1 minute later she was fighting Thanos and winning. So she could have snapped.
4 - The characters knew in the Hulk snap scene that anyone could use it, they were just not sure if they would live. Anyone could have and should have made the sacrifice, but that's a separate plot inconsistency.
5 - Dr Strange only looked at 14 million outcomes, against an infinite multiverse that's literally a drop in the bucket.
6...
@@TheWarpZone _Thanos used it 2 minutes later so it didn't._
Thanos hand is already as large as the Hulk's.
Danvers hand is tiny. It can't fit that Gauntlet at all which is *why she wouldn't stick her hand in it.*
Your claim that that Gauntlet doesn't need to change - is a just a lie, to cover for the plot hole in your argument.... and you know it.
I'm glad several discussants have pointed this out now.... so you keep on lying then. lol.
_Hulk absorbed the gamma energy when he did the snap so this point proves it would have worked if she absorbed excess energy._
Hulk is specifically MADE OF GAMMA RADIATION, that is why he was chosen instead of Thor.
His arm was also completely fried by the Gauntlet anyway, and he was barely able to snap.
Captain Marvel is not made of Gamma radiation so there is no proof that she could handle it - just *you say so* because your video needs to claim it.
*However there is proof that she CAN'T handle the power of the stones as well as Thanos.*
Thanos pulled out the power stone and with his bare hand he *knocked her out.*
So she is neither immune nor invulnerable to Infinity Stones. And she is provably *not as capable* of withstanding their power as Thanos.
So you are again provably wrong - as many discussants have now correctly informed you.
My brain was going "just use the space stone and portal to the van"
This may have happened canonically but the TVA didn’t like this ending so they pruned it
Another banger, another banger from Noah Grossman from Smosh
The reason Danvers didn't have more a role is simple. After Perlmutter was removed from power Feige was allowed to do whatever idiotic thing he wanted so he introduced his MSheU character. She did so horrible Disney or some other group had to buy tickets to inflate the box office. Even then she was so unpopular someone made the executive decision to limit her role.
TVA: *Wait, that's illegal.*
Except the Loki show is full of plot holes and blatant character assassinations so let’s not use the incompetent fucking morons aka TVA as a defensive argument for shitty writing in Endgame..
@@properduction2586 Loki is full of plot holes, true.
This video is even worse. It's so shitty that it can't even get the simple fact right that the Gauntlet is formatted for the Hulk so Danvers CANNOT fit her hand into it.
When this is pointed out the video maker changes his argument (ie caught in a lie) and tries to argue that somehow Danvers can just make the Gauntlet fit her, which is also a lie as she doesn't have the nanotech that the time heist team has, and isn't even aware that the Gauntlet is nanotech.
Aware of this the video maker continues to squirm by arguing that Danvers should have been a part of the time heist so she would have the tech, which is both moot, because she wasn't and doesn't, and is also WRONG, since the issue with the time heist is limited Pym particles so they can't just bring everyone who might want to tag along.
This video is just wrong. And you and others whining about the film, never do address the mistakes in the video, because...you can't.
This is an idea I never would’ve even considered but it makes too much sense