Here's Why These NBA Contenders Are Kinda Struggling
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Yo Andy what's yo favorite team?
Miami's problems are simple. Playing a guy that's 6'5" at power forward and a guy that's 6'9" at center means you'll get beat on rebounds consistently. The team is small and there's not much to do about it until trade deadline. Miami has found some success with better rebounding and interior defense in the last 3 games having switched from a switch-everything defense to more of a hybrid drop-zone defense which keeps Bam closer to the rim. Other issues like Herro making starting lineup left the bench unit without offense power. Bench leader would be Oladipo if he weren't permanently injured. Adding to the size issues the bench center Dewayne Dedmon is cooked and his young replacement, Omer Yurtseven, just got surgery.
I couldn't believe Bam Adebayo was only 6'9"! I mean I say that like it's short when I'm barely 5'9" lol but I could have sworn Bam wad 7 foot lol
They have dedmon.
Tyler Herro has also been dealing with an ankle injury.
Having one of your primary sources of offense out or limited is also a problem.
Not only that, but Herro is a defensive liability even when healthy. Robinson is such a defensive liability he has been played off the floor: hard to remember him scorching teams from 3 in the bubble. But now every team in the league knows to hunt those guys on pick and rolls, even in the regular season. Brutal.
Couldn’t of summed it up better wow
To be fair, Duncan was relegated to the bench by the end of the previous season in favor of Max Strus. In fact, Duncan was so hit and miss he was kinda out of the rotation once Dipo returned.
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The Warriors defense issue largely comes with losing GP2 and Otto Porter.
And their defensive coach..
@@maybeits1K The bench guys they had last season were “dogs.” Who is a dog off the bench for GS?
Otto Porter.... 🤣🤣
@@riveysworld2442 lol don't sleep on him
i think kuminga is the biggest disappointment... the dude has athleticism but cant do anything unless he is literally given an alley oop. he needs to step it up but hes just not that good. Got by until now on being able to jump high. Waste of a high draft pick
To be fair, weren't Boston in one of these vids at this point last season, then they rallied to reach the Finals? It can be concerning at this point but it's certainly not fatal yet.
The Miami Heat struggle for sure has to do with their bench
I mean Herro from leaving the bench to start now , I mean I can’t blame him for doing that, but Miami has been adamant to do this so far this year and they have to make some decisions for sure
Is oladipo injured ?
I think the smart move would be putting Lowrey in charge of the bench unit & moving Herro over to starting PG.
Herro is their best true Guard right now & he is still developing.
Him & Jimmy can be the primary scorers, with Lowrey trying to handle Herro's role from last season.
If Herro is playing PG as the starter, good luck. Miami plays hard, but they topped out last season. It is Jimmy Butler, Bam, an aging Lowry and that is it.
@@therealdarrell282 That's pretty ignorant to discount Herro.
@@pewpew9193 No matter what Miami does, they peaked as a team.
Injuries aren't an excuse. It's an explanation. Nobody is letting you score just because you've gotten injured or they feel bad for you. If Klay isn't playing well, better players should be played more. Play better if you want to keep your minutes.
Yeah, the Heat lack in size. I do think that losing Tucker in the off season is why we’re struggling right now. We got a decent team but if we don’t make some changes we won’t be back in the Eastern conference finals anytime soon. Many of us really want to trade for Myles Turner but we don’t have the assets to trade for him. But having Martin and Bam in the front court isn’t going to work against teams like the Timberwolves or the the Celtics.
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Possible solution to the Herro issue is to move Herro to combo pg/sg and move Lowry to sixth man, move Strus to starting sg. Old ass Lowry gets to rest more, and Lowry raises the floor of the bench unit. Starting unit benefits from Herro's offensive production and Strus' long range gravity which gives Jimmy and Bam more space to cook. The downside is starting lineup defense takes a hit.
Ya the Lowry deal is turning out to be one of the worst contracts . He is way past his prime and Lowry is slow and out of shape , he’s a shell of himself truly . They need to get rid of Lowry for more depth , dedmond needs to go for someone younger . And possibly move on from Duncan Robinson .
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exactly! and I don´t even think the starting lineup defense takes that much of a hit, Lowry is not that great of a defender anymore. He only has .1 more DWS and .3 more DBPM. Plus, Herro has a great connection with Bam on the PnR and also Lowry slows the play too much for the offense, when Jimmy should be the only one slowing down the offense when taking the ball (aka there´s not a high pace playmaker on the team, which Tyler is). Kyle should be the 6th man and Tyler the starting PG.
@Allegedly Eh I clowned his deal the minute they announced it. First thought I had was "why give a 35 yr old NOT NAMED LeBron, 90 Million????"🤨🤨🤦🏾♂️☠️
Or add a 6th man and keep the starting unit together is what a decent GM would do
These two teams should've given Dwight Howard a contract they both badly needed a big guy who can defend and rebound.
Especially Golden State.
Steph can rebound
@@jayus2033 so you can't rely on ur 6 foot 3 guard to rebound
Melo and howard playing in Taiwan instead of being on a nba team is a crime considering DJ is on the nuggets lol
You forgot to mention gary payton jr's importance last season to gsw
Steph at 34 is kinda starting to give me Dejavous vibez to Kobe at 34 having to carry their Entire teams offense the majority of time.
I hope Steph gets more help from his Teammates soon so that we don't see a Freakish injury down the the road of the season like we did with Kobe.
Don't worry bro steph doesn't have a freak athleticism like kobe. But I agree with you
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We should really consider starting Gabe Vincent over Lowry so we can have a floor general in our second rotation. I honestly think Vincent would resolve the problem since he’s neither ball dominant nor playmaker #1, he’s the fill-in spot that’s capable of both, but not tied to either. Plus he has great hustle on every defensive play
That’s not a mad idea. Jimmy has proven to be a very solid ball handler and play maker. I don’t see why they don’t try to run him as a point forward and Lowery come off the bench.
This is a solid idea. Miami was thriving when they had Goran Dragic coming off the bench a few seasons back.
@@mr.longjohn0014 Tyler Herro is a good PG in his own right.
Jimmy wouldn't even have to handle all the PG work with Herro in the lineup.
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I'd like this idea. Gabe Vincent is really solid, and he's done well in a starting position such as the playoffs last season when Lowry was injured
The fact Steph has to have a remarkable game every game this season shows how bad the rest of the team is. I'd much rather see Klay going for 40 or Poole having a good % from the field.
Klay is not even close to old klay. I would 100% trade that guy, since he still has some value to some teams. Although I do think he is a lockerroomproblem for any team, but Golden State. I mean, besides shooting he brings noting anymore, since the injury. He doesnt pass, and doesnt play Defence for shiit, and keeps crying about his NBA 2K rating..
i think kuminga is the biggest disappointment... the dude has athleticism but cant do anything unless he is literally given an alley oop. he needs to step it up but hes just not that good. Got by until now on being able to jump high. Waste of a high draft pick
Y'all can't forget about Wiseman. Gets injured and doesn't play for 2 years. He finally gets to play and he's already in the G League.
@@BH-gh6qm Yeah Kuminga is awful. He doesn't have any basketball moves. He's just so awkward and has no basketball fluidity. They could have traded him and Wiseman for a quality big in the off-season. Poole is also super overrated. He got his bag and looks like he spent all summer partying. No wonder Draymond socked him.
@@GeronimoPlaz agreed with all of that. poole really got paid and hasnt tried in any games this season unless everyone is resting. Then he goes off for like 20-30 pts on 25% shooting. crazy bad efficiency
The Heat are getting back on track now
Yeah but for how long tho?
Same with the warriors both teams just need to develop the chemistry and dog back in both teams
We lost last night
@@415javito i mean the "dubs" lost to the suns without cp3 so...
I would make Klay a 6th man similar to Russ and let Wiggins become the #2 option.
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good option I think, even though Klay does not really create his own shot, so he might need the starters to feed him
@@Bingeflow1 he can actually create his own shot and has a nice post up game too, he needs to come off the bench for sure.
Solid idea💡. Klay would make a solid 6th man at this point of his career.
As a Timberwolves fan, I can tell you that you don't want Wiggins as a primary option lol
This is why Manu is a Legend.
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As a Heat fan I agree with 100% of everything you said great video BTW.
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We can’t rebound too… at all, I promise u, that’ll fix a lot of problems
it’s funny hearing “since the beginning of the season” and one one hasn’t even played 20 games yet lol
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Curry's efficiency and ppg is insane!
Best offensive season
Great analysis
Jimmy’s bogus ass extensions cursed the heat 😂
And the hair just extended it
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Klay is just struggling because he’s taking bad shots, he’s been doing this since he came back but ppl didn’t notice before cuz the warriors literally won the championship. Imo he should let Wiggins be the #2 option like how it was in the later stages of the playoffs
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Yes. Well said. Klay is broken since the injury. Honestly its a whole deal that he actually made the comeback!
He's also struggling because he isn't playing every game. He seems to be struggling to get a rhythm going. Hopefully when he starts playing more games and back to backs he can get back in stride. I'm still having a hard time with understanding why he seemed to have "missed" training camp. Klay's injuries are definitely mentally holding him down a bit. He'll get there.
atm, Steph Curry drops 50 but still loses. Now that's a serious problem
Losing gp2 definitely has something to do with the defensive rating going down for the warriors
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They also lost Mike brown
Andy is off here..I'd actually worry more about the heat then the Warriors. U could pull all the stats all u want but there biggest problem is that teams in the East improved in free agency and they didn't. Plus Lowry is a shell of his Toronto self..Bam and Herro are young but the rest of the team is aging..mainly Butler and Lowry. Butler is looking like he did the year after the bubble when they got swept by eventual champs Milwaukee. Warriors will be fine they will figure there stuff out..never doubt Curry and the warriors
If youth development does not reduce championship chances then dynasties do not end. My point is that GSW seems to be greedy thinking they can get the current and the future all together in 1 team. Most of the time you only invest in 1. That's why teams rebuild. GSW wants to stay championship contender and rebuild at the same time which is very difficult to achieve. I would suggest focusing on the current while it is Steph's prime and trade away some of that young up and coming stars to secure a few more championships before Steph retires. Those young guys do not seem to have greatness potential in them anyway. They can be good but definitely not great.
i think kuminga is the biggest disappointment... the dude has athleticism but cant do anything unless he is literally given an alley oop. he needs to step it up but hes just not that good. Got by until now on being able to jump high. Waste of a high draft pick
Last year's boston this time of the year was like: should trade 1 or both jb and jt and they reached the finals
This just show that finding the right chemistry, righr minutes right combinations of players and groove can change everything
The heat bench is missing Tyler and they need a PF that can defend all positions or a true center that can shoot the 3
Jae crowder would help but they need young defenders and rebounders / playing making and shooting
@@Wickedtingzz I wouldn’t mind roco
You can't blame their young star for wanting to be a starter.
He was 6th MOTY & better than 90% of the starting Guards in the NBA last year, but still not really regarded as a "star" because he comes off the bench.
I can see why he wants to be a starter.
I think moving Lowrey to the bench is probably their best move.
Oh GSW’s roster isn’t the same. Most of their bench players from last szn have gone like Bjelica, Otto Porter Jr, GP2, JTA, Damion Lee. I don’t surprise if they have a slow start, part of it is due to the lack of depth and experience from their bench. Their bench this year is younger and kinda raw. Plus they let Mike Brown went to Kings.
Damion Lee & Jta didnt play in the playoffs and both stop gettin play time in reg season they had no Impact In gsw success bt Bjelica, Otto, and Gp2 Did and mike Brown leaving was overlooked
@@peezydabeatmonster8112 I agree with you, Mike seems building chemistry in Kings.
@@tunadablue lol Exactly He got Them Competing
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Exactly. They lost a lot of tough role players and the youth movement isn't cutting it.
Man, I almost smacked my screen at 3:30 thinking that a moth or some insect flew across my screen, when it was the blue arrow 😅 🤣
Herro not acknowledging his play impacts his team in a more positive manner with him off the bench is hurtful. Sure, be a starter. But when you're teams rotations and performance suffer because of the lack of understanding of the concept of team, then your accolades won't mean shit 😂
yeah as a Heat fan, I'm not happy w Herro's attitude. with that and the way he hi-5'ed lamelo... trade his ass.
@@cannedpineapple2702 I agree..."I need to prove what I can provide as a Starter". Sir, what can you provide to be a WINNER?! 🗣
7:30 ayoooooo 😂💀
To see the warriors struggle like they have is very odd. They haven’t won a single game on the road this season.
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3:05 I'm 10000% with coach Steve's opinion!
These videos are my comfort food
watching this rn while the heat made the finals against all odds
the players andy was talking about all stepped up, look what caleb martin has become since the making of this video
2:04 😂😂😂
i guess he was listening. 10 3s man. 😂😂😂
Can we get a video on my outperforming expectations BLAZERS?!
Matt Ryan saved Lebron and the Lakers from being 1-9
Very funny… not!
Can we focus on a different team that isn’t either the Lakers or Nets
@@elefanta1278 they’re the biggest stories
@@elefanta1278 why would you click on this video
@@elefanta1278 agreed but I kno it ain't a sports story if dey not talking about 🐐 James
Man, as a Heat fan I'm beyond frustrated. Just watched the Nets-Heat game, and I feel angry about how the offense has consisted of isolations for Jimmy and Herro for the last 4 minutes, not to mention we suck at rebounding. It's sure to say that, this year, we're not contending at all, so I hope Pat really starts a soft rebuild centered around Bam and Tyler. Lowry, Dedmon and Robinson can't play a single game more with the team
Warriors just growing pains dam there tryna add in 3-4 very new players
Jp is no good on defence
I feel like somehow the death line up only works in the playoffs
Wiseman and kaminga just need time
Perhaps try Steph klay wiseman kaminga wigs
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Do a video about the kings they’re becoming a contender right before our eyes and it’s awesome to see
As much as i like this, i think we have to wait for a week or two before putting them in the contender bracket. They look excellent on offense and defense, hopefully they work it out throughout the season
I can see them getting into the playoffs
That’s like saying make a vid on the wizards they’re becoming contenders before our eyes
Lmao they’re 1 game above .500 man. Contending for the playoffs? Sure, the championship though? Let’s just slow down 😂
a contender ? really ? 😂
Just a few months jitters!! Nothing more nothing less!!
Trade proposal save Miami Heat this season
Pacers receive: Duncan Robinson Yurtseven + 2023 first round pick + 2 future second round pick
Heat receive: Julies Randle
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We need to be worried about Brooklyn and LA!! Now they are beyond struggling!! Need to break up those teams!!
I'm shock you dont mention the lost of Otto Pilot and GPII
And Herro I'd getting paid alot of money he's not coming off the bench ..lol
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The D in Dubs means drama. Since Herro got his wanted paycheck, everything went sour for the Heat's rotation. Mr. _World B. Flat_ is ruining the Nets.
Meanwhile, the Bucks and the Suns are gunning to be the top contenders again. No drama, just ballin' and both teams are on track to be on the most underrated rivalry in the NBA for years.
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NBA different now you can’t have 2 good problems with a bad supporting case anymore. You have to actually use the draft to make your team a powerhouse.
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LMFAOAOA Klay just dropped a 40 ball yesterday 😭 so yea I doubt they’d ever bench him
7:22 Watch Heat Ganes Duncan Robinson didn’t even start in 2022 That was Max Strus
The issue with the Heat isn't bench scoring. It's substitution and rotations. If you can rotate guys properly and end with the right line up, they should still be good.
Heero can stay a starter, but if he really wants to keep on doing this, then once you bench the other starters, for say by the 2nd quarter, keep him in. So that at least he can still move with the ball and create open looks for Duncan. By the 3rd, bench him to rest and maybe find the right time to insert him again with Duncan and the others.
It's up to Spo on how he can handle Heero's ego and finding the right rotation after the first substitution. If he's unhappy despite being a starter, then speak with him to settle down his ego. At least you can tell him, "alright you've proven your point as a starter, but we need you off the bench now for the benefit of the team" or something like that. Just let him get what he wants for maybe the whole regular season or half or more than half, then by the playoffs switch it from your normal bench rotation, starter, etc. Just so that you at least were able to test multiple lineups during the season and have more rotation options by the playoffs which should help.
At least in case of any injuries to Lowry or Butler, you know Heero won't have trouble being in the starting 5 or off the bench since he now has a better feel for both
I think the Sacramento Kings are due for some love Andy
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It's really hard to be really good two yrs in a row teams figured how to play Miami and gs warriors
I feel like Klay watched this and has since gone off, that no jump on his jumpers line was disrespectful
We (miami) are slowly putting things back on track
It’s the afteraffect of teams that been to the finals or conference finals they do bad the next season
I don't think the Mavs are doing bad when you consider they're trying to transition to a different roster.
Brunson is gone, so Dinwiddie has to be a starter & Christian Wood should be transitioning to the secondary scorer with THJ becoming the leader of the bench unit.
Jason Midd just has to get it together.
They can't stop blowing huge leads.
They've played some great basketball to build those leads, they just can't lose easy games like they have.
Miami and Golden State has similarity, the starter and the 6th man shooting guards...
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I'd move Lowry to the bench, Herro to the point and insert Duncan at the 2.
The main problem with Miami is the scoring, no offensive firepower outside Butler and even he isn't a true scorer. Nobody else is consistent enough to provide the scoring (bam, herro, oladipo) and that's what costs them the games.
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Clippers as well
love the vid but saying PJ Tucker was the best 3 point shooter in miami is wild
GOD bless you
dude, if i don't hear my keys rattle, i would lose them even more then i do already xD
I mean we're still in the early stage of the season so eventually they will pick it up as the season went by. Give them more time.
What Steve Kerr fails to realize is that lineup is good in spite of Klay. Almost all of Klay's advanced analytics rank near the bottom of the league among qualifiers, unlike the rest of his teammates. If Kerr fails to make changes, one of two things is going to happen by the offseason: Either Klay Thompson gets traded or Steve Kerr gets fired.
No Gary Payton, Damion Lee and JTA they already left
Klay didn’t play any pickup during the off-season. He’s in his own head at this point. The warriors will make some moves at the trade deadline and get it together before the playoffs
That’s a stupid take.
@@Romanus- That's Klay's own fault. No training in the offseason is a recipe for disaster, idc who you are. If Klay thought that same shit was gonna happen to him again, then maybe he should have just retired.
@@dr.donkey9254 How?
There’s not enough balls to go around PAUSE😂
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Bruh, Herro took strus’ starting role not Duncan.. strus took that role from Duncan since last season.. 🤦🏻♂️
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Still got both going to the WCF and ECF!!! It is still very early and these early teams won't be able to stay consistently above everyone else for long!!
No. The Warriors are a hot mess right now, and Klay is not just going to magically get better. He's clearly washed.
End of the superteam in the nba
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41 lastnight Big KLAY
Why would somebody ask Herro if he’ll “consider” coming off the bench again? Is he the coach?
I'm convinced klay Thompson watches your video
Lowry should be the 6th man and herro should play point. I wanna see how that would play out
To me, I think Klay is trying too much.
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Miamis splash brothers are Tyler herro and Duncan Robinson
Miami losing PJ Tucker is NOT the problem. I am tired of hearing it. PJ was good for us last year with his defense and corner 3's. But the main problem is SIZE and PJ is a midget for a Power Forward. Bam is a Power Forward playing Center because every other bigmen are bench players which is another problem. Duncan gets paid 15 mil a year to play a few minutes and most players are actually worse then they are playing for the last 2 seasons because of the system and Jimmy Butler. As a Heat fan I knew we would be a bottom playoff team so I am not shocked by what I see this year.
Facts. They have size but they don't match. Yurtseven is great, but he can't play next to Bam and now Yurtz is out.
Another one is they have no consistent option after Jimmy. Bam is averaging 20 and 10 right now, but he has nights where he only attempts 5 shots, that has to stop. He needs to show up every night, as a max player.
Kyle Lowry too. He has to be consistent. Matter of fact, sometimes, I like Gabe starting over him.
GSW also runs a 6'9" center in Looney. But the difference is, they have so much firepower and size all throughout,compared to Miami. That's why Miami can't keep on sticking to small ball.
People are also blaming Spo for the small ball system, which is most of the time warranted, but they keep ignoring the fact that Pat is the one making the roster.
I just feel bad for Butler.
Six big franchises are struggling :
Clippers but no worries, depends on the return of Kawhi
Philadelphie but again no worries, Embiid and harden has to play more games together and it will be ok
Nets danger cause all depends on Kyrie. He must accept Vaughn philosophy and organisation. So more dangerous. Trades are always possible in Brooklyn.
GSW, simple Klay and Draymond are not the same players and the young guard : Poole, Kuminga, Moody are aware of that and they want to brake through. Seems this is a fracture between the youngsters and the vets. It’s seems pretty bad to me.
Lakers : a simple choice: trade Westbrook for two good 3andD and a descent point guard or already turn your attention to the lottery.
What’s happening with the warriors? Mark Jackson’s guys are getting old and Kerrs guys are playing more
Heat need a Allstars scorer and a monster who can rebound
Got older, destroyed their fragile depth (atleast The Dubs did), etc..
DONT KNOW WHAT U GOT TIL ITS GONE. WE COULD US GP AND OTTO IN THE LINEUP LETS NOT FORGET. AFTER THAT PUNCH IT DEFLATED THE TEAM EARLY ON. HOPE WE BOUNCE BACK
Wiggins with his young cliche mentality, that disrespects the established older players and tries to chase them away. that has to stop...
they will pick it up
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Warriors vs Rams struggles this year
Both won chip than fell off this yar
Legit tho MATTY ICE saved LeBron and the lakers from tanking
The lakers can’t tank
If he can deal with Lebron he can deal with anybody, I think... If he can stand up to an angry Jimmy Butler.. he can really deal with anybody 🤣
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Idk man Caleb Martin is pretty damn good on defense and his jumper isn't bad.
Caleb Martin's issue is he constantly tries to poster dunk people and he only has like a 5% success rate on it. When he goes inside he gets blocked or loses the ball constantly. He's good at drive and kick, and a good shooter when defenses hedge off him. But he keeps trying to dunk like Vince Carter and it keeps not working
Klay should come off the bench and let Poole flourish now that the warriors 1st pick James Wiseman is a bust
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Math is simple: If Dray is allowed to act like a clown and foul with impunity the Warriors win.
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lol at tyler herro being redundant with janitor kyle lowery in the lineup. the heat have an awful bench and can't stay healthy. its really not much deeper than that.
Miami needs Jae chowder an a center
These 2 are like the nets and lakers right now
Sad to say heat wont be among the top east teams for now. Especially how the other teams got better while the heat made no moves.
While the warriors like the heat didnt make any signifcant moves but theyre in a crossroads now, secure the future but not win a championship or trade your future assets to maximize stephs remaining prime...