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- The Old Ones were the greatest beings in the entirety of 40k, so what actually happened to them?
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If only the Old Ones had subscribed, maybe they wouldn't have been genocided...
I mean I can't draw a correlation between that but lets just roll with it
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Sanginious would want you to subscribe.
Who is smarter? The old ones? Or Crazy Dave from PVZ?
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Make a video about Imperium Secundus if the imperium had failed, you pompous egomaniacal son of Fulgrim
"Compared to the War In Heaven, the 10,000 year old conflict started by Horus who decided to become a bad boy... is barely a blip on the radar." - TTS Throne Emperor.
"Really puts things into perspective, doesn't it?"
I suddenly feel small, and I don’t know how to feel about it.
Magnus the red
Actually since the Tyranids are traveling across the void between galaxies at slower than light speeds. That would mean they have been travel to the Milky Way for millions of years. Which would make sense if it was the War in Heaven that got Hive Minds attention and not Pharos incident. Plus things like the destruction of Pharos beacon happened every other name during the War in Heaven.
@@jenniferlumiqued”You’ll get used for it. Besides, you’re shorter than most of your brothers anyway.”
Funny how that's from a parody yet that quote can be said in 100% seriousness and make sense
This all could’ve been avoided if the Old Ones shared the secret to sun screen
That or jus fixed the necrontyr dna for later generations to be free of their cancers, don’t even have to give them immortality. This way everyone wins. All out galactic scale war could be avoided.
Straight up!
@crimsonicons3948 Probably figured if you're willing to go to war over it and destroy all of creation then you probably don't need to have the key to immortality
Life or death is a little different that immortality.
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if the old ones are so good, why havent they made an old ones 2 yet
Why old ones? Why no new twos?
You can tell warhammer is good because of the other 39k versions
@rockfire1669 If Warhammer was really good why would they make 39k different ones? 😔
@@maltheri9833 Because it’s just the nature of reality.just look at all the sequels and trilogies these days.
Take a good idea/concept and redo it into nothingness.
Battletoads 2
The idea of a non-chaos infested warp to travel through is so weird to think about.
It'd be just like Heaven
@@DatGitGhaz
LOL 😇
You got a grandma that you're missing?
"give us sunscreen"
-space mummys
"LMAO NOPE"
-spade toads
I can't help but wonder, if Gork and Mork were Krork way back when and somehow ascended to godhood?
Now imagine in the next editions we might have orks believing in gork, mork and gazkull
Or you know, they're Old Ones. The Old Ones made Krorks to begin with, would sorta make sense the Gods of the Krorks would also be the Gods of the Orks.
@@timothybigsby7144Krorks were literally engineered to be killing machines like terminators, i don't think they gave much of a shit about worshiping anyone.
The Warp used to be called the Realm of Souls but due to the War In Heaven, it became polluted and transformed into the Warp where Chaos Gods dwell there.
Freakin Necrontir… =_=💢
@@auraaetherbladesigma6939it was the old ones
Wait, really? How did you find out?
@@jenniferlumiquedit's both. Old Ones being uppity toads and Necrontyr being war like and desperate
Chaos fought during the War in Heaven as stated in Rise of the Ynnari Wildheart
The surviving Old Ones fled from the Prime Universe into the Secondary Universe and self devolved themselves into members of the Slaan of Lustria and the Southlands.
All of them except Lord Kroak the only Old One who retained their Warp Deityhood.
The watchers in the dark might as well be descendents of the old ones themselves who adapted to a more hidden and discret lifestyle. Choosing mankind as the race to guild, since the Emprah is the only one hope against Chaos.
@@EarthenGamesbecause the Lion is the best that's why
@@sircole4549Truth
@@EarthenGames Because The Lion is the true son of the Emperor. The firstborn..
Sounds good, out-subvert the subversive and BURRRRRRRRRRN THEM IN THE VOID. 'N stuff.
@@sircole4549Sanguinius would like to have a word with you.
I always imagined that Old Ones are far too complicated for mortals to understand, just like Chaos in some ways
When I first got into warhammer that's also what I thought. And I feel like they gave too many info on them and kinda ruined that mysterious aura
@@zaer-ezart True, but lets say all those info are just legends from human point of view and understanding
Same
Given what we know, they might be a whole society of god emperors.
@@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 im not sure if 100% canon but from what i know the eldar were like a race of Emperors, The old ones being even more powerful perhaps even more than a fully awake god emperor
I've always wondered what alien life in other galaxies is like, if they have their own warp gods. It is smart from a narrative stand point to focus on one galaxy, so plots can remained focus and the setting can feel more lived-in and real.
From the little we do know about outside the Milky Way galaxy is that it’s way worse than the current setting. The silent king is pretty much the only thing that’s left it, and from what we can learn from it is that is pretty fucking bleak. There’s either things so awful that they make what’s occurring in the setting look not that bad, or everything has been consumed by the Tyranids, which is also terrible.
I kinda prefer the notion that the tyranids are running away from something outside the galaxy, it doesn't quite fit but is fun
@@jorjor500first tyranid thing is just a theory. Second Silent king never gone to another galaxy he was dicking around the empty parts in between. Seriously I don't think you people understand just how far away things actually are in space. 😅
@@berilsevvalbekret772 he was gone for millions of years with FTL travel capabilities. The Tyranids have to be coming from somewhere, and they have sub-ftl travel currently. If he couldn’t find anything in the reaches outside the galaxy in that time, then the Nids certainly couldn’t make it to the Milky Way unless they were out there.
@@davekavanagh7599A dumb, pointless theory that adds nothing new to the table except reducing the collective threat of the Tyranids. Enough with this farcical nonsense.
In my opinion, the old ones(or at least, the last old one) personally created Big E because they saw a potential of humanity that they didn’t really see in the eldar, or any other race, and they knew that the eldar wouldn’t be enough in defeating chaos, so they invested in arguably their least potent creation.
Humans are a good middle ground between Eldar, who are arrogant and cowardly, and the Orks, who are mindlessly brutal.
A theory I liked was the Emperor going onto Molech, and meeting with the Last old one and asked for help in the creation of the primarchs. And the old one agreeing on the condition to his him away from everything else.
Ive never heard thus before,very cook idea
It’s a shame games workshop hasn’t made books about the war in Heaven or humanity during the dark age of technology they’re sitting on a gold mine it would probably be dozens of books longer than the Horus heresy I wonder how the emperor compares to them on the power scale
I’d wager the Emperor is equivalent to at least a single old one but if he was in the war of heaven he’d be the equivalent of a space marine chapter master like maybe Dante or Calgar
I think that those eras should remain mysterious; as countless recent prequels have taught us, explaining the mystery usually just ruins it.
the reason why there may not be any books about them is that stuff is forgotten history that's passed into MYTH. they're both meant to be largely unknown times except for whatever knowledge survived to the current day.
i loved it when the Old ones said, "its old oneing time" and created most races in the galaxy. truly a 40k moment
One of the moments of all time
Out of all the 40,000 warhammers that was definitely one of them
The old ones created the Webway for instantaneous travel, not because it was safer.
But now it is safer.
@@marcelgrabowski5939 Large parts of it are showing signs of wear and tear, some passages and entire sectors are shut down by the Eldar themselves as the walls of the webway in those areas crumbled and Chaos flows in.
They also lack any means to repair it, with the Dark Eldar figuring out that using human blanks as improvised wards could keep the cracks from growing temporarily.
The Webway is not as safe as it used to be.
@@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf Still better than warp, I knowed i before, no one know how to repair this thing and it is slowly but inevitably colapsing. And I do not know about blank usage by Drukhari, thanks. But how Dark Eldar even transport them? After all just the presence of Blank could even hurt or kill Eldar. Um. Do not respond to this question. They are dark eldar after all and I do not wish to know they ways.
@@marcelgrabowski5939 The transport is easy, they just capture them like any other human.
Blanks do not kill eldar by proximity, they just see them as abominations or voids. Only trained blanks, like the Sisters of Silence or Culexus assassins, are able to weaponize their blank condition against Eldar, with deadly effect.
As for how they figured out, I don't know, but I guess it is the work of some Homunculi as they are the main "scientists" within drukhari society.
But ye, you don't want to know the details of how the dark eldar use them as wards.
@@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf But safer than, say, taking a trip into the warp without normalcy-bubble machine.
To be honest the Tau are so like what art we have for the Necrons they could just have been a dynasty of Necrons that didn’t end up being fed to the C’tan and so didn’t lose their biology. The Ethereals also act like the Dynasty leaders. Quite peaceful but willing to wage war if necessary. The greater good is exactly like Old One teachings.
Maybe an Old One took some Necrontyr before/during the War in Heaven because their ideology states they want to preserve all life in the galaxy.
This Old one then released the Tau/Necrons back into the galaxy.
I mean look at their tech. Classic signs of what the Necrons were like pre-war in heaven.
My headcanon anyway and I think it makes sense.
The Necrontyr weren’t a psychic race. Neither are the Tau.
Have Necrons and Tao already crossed paths? The Silent King would go nuts over perfect vessels like that
@@pedroivantaveraferreira3037 they have. They’ve largely ignored each other so far.
I think the Silent King is looking for a way to reverse engineer the issue. It’s not a car of biological meat suits it’s a case of getting their souls back
I will keep asking for this because if there's one thing all 40k factions have in common it's never giving up:
Could you make a video on how someone could permanently kill one of the 4 chaos gods and (more interestingly) what would happen if they did ?
Actually a good question despite the most accurate answer to the second one being "bad things happen"
Idk about killing but if I remember correctly I read somewhere that if even one of the chaos gods is killed, the warp will turn to the tranquil and peaceful sea of souls it used to be. Could be wrong so take it with a Agri world of salt
@@abdullahirfan9991 the chaos gods represent emotions/primordial stuff right? So like. if one dies, another would just come in it's place. Look at the T'au god of the greater good that was created.
You can only kill a chaos god by removing the concepts that give them form in the first place, so for Khorne (as an example) you'd have to completely destroy his portfolio... So war, hatred, wrath, rage, murder, blood, strength, courage, and martial honor (according to the wiki, anyway). So basically you'd have to introduce a universe without violence.
This is sort of the paradox of Chaos, and why the great game is the "great game" - the Chaos gods don't want to win, they want to keep the game stagnant for as long as possible without introducing change. Characters like Abaddon and Archeon are actually counter to the great game. It's why Archeon wasn't exactly the favorite child of the chaos gods, and when he succeeded he killed chaos.
@@Bronnenheim like I said, take my statement with an Agri world of salt
I heard the theory of the old ones being responsible for the nids too actually and this was years back I didn't actually agree with it but I could see an absolutely insane old one doing it
nah because that’s pretty much a repeat of the precursors/flood scenario in halo
@Azzazpimp lol true but I heard this theory before even halo 3 came out so technically gw could use it but as I said it was years ago
@@Azzazpimp Pretty sure the theory is older then the whole Halo frenchise...
@@vicdark8807Unless it was an "official" theory, that doesn't mean squat.
the only way I can believe this is if we discover the Old Ones had already expanded to another galaxy since the Tyranids are foreign to ours
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He chose the Emperor,
and the Emperor chose him.
Yeah, the idea that the Tau and Necrons is a strange one, but the game Gladius hints at it a little. When the Necrons beat a tau faction, they feel nostalgia looking at a Tau skull. Were they created by the old ones? by necrons as potential vessels to reverse bio transference? who knows.
The last idea is an interesting one, but the problem with the theory is that the Tau emerged VERY recently, at least in the scales of including the WiH. The Tau went from Stone Age to interstellar empire in about 10,000 years, so even if we’re extremely generous, the species itself is maybe a couple hundred thousand years old, compared to the necrons who are roughly 60 million years old
@@damonedrington3453 What I was getting at, partly, was if the Tau were genetically engineered by some awakened Necrons recently to have evolved quickly as potential candidates to be new vessels?
But not widely known as the Tau and Necrons don't have any special alliance as they have come into conflict.
@@unapuma supposedly lore slightly insinuates that the Tau were uplifted by the Eldar using Quorl DNA (specifically the pheremone crystals) to create the Ethereal caste.
Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans situation as imperial regent would be pretty cool ngl, seeing how each rule their own empires would be a cool speculative video
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keep it up mate
We are the eternal crusaders
Don't let the flame die out
Jesus bro how long have you been commenting this? Months now?
I think the emperor was a direct creation of the Old Ones. How exactly did a bunch of cavemen know exactly what method to use for their souls to fuse? Plus if it was that easy to make a god being why didn't the eldar or another xenos race try to make their own? I think a handful of Old Ones influenced and controlled the creation process then allowed themselves to be absorbed, which is why the Emperor is so OP.
I actually liked the theory it also relates to another video I watched so the gist of it was that humanity were the backup race of the old ones and their jack of all traits against everything.
Makes more sense than 1000 shamans fusing their souls, in a time of humanity were we had no psykers
Not going to lie, I hate that theory. It stinks too much of the "Humanity, fuck yeah!" trend that absolutely infests fantasy settings. Far too often writers lean heavy on the humanity being "super special and awesome" compared to all the ancient and theoretically more powerful species. The D&D settings had it baked at least as far back as 1st Ed. AD&D. LotR had it. Warcraft has it. Warhammer both fantasy and 40K have/had it. Star Trek to a certain degree has it. As far as I know pretty much every major Sci-fi and fantasy setting places humanity as the mover and shaker. It's dumb and repetitive, obviously in my opinion.
While I'm not a fan of just how dark and terrible Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence is, at least humanity isn't king. In fact we get our teeth kicked down our throat pretty hard.
Humanity being an after thought of the Old Ones, A-okay. Humanity as *the* weapon to set everything right? Hot garbage. I mean... if it wasn't pretty much every major setting that did it, it would be fine. The problem is, nearly every franchise/writer has done it. It's lazy.
@@deltatea3192 while I disagree Warcraft makes humans any more special and awesome than other races, since they're never fighting without the aid of those races and aren't always the focus of things, I do agree that humans being treated as the best of the best has outgrown its welcome. it'd be a breath of fresh air if someone flipped the formula on its head to replace the importance on humans with the ascendancy of other races; orcs/orks, the undead or even demons.
@@Shalltear773Granted. The imperium will be destroyed and the emperor killed thus nuking terra. The story will now focus on the tau as the only hope left for the galaxy
7:38 Slaanesh: "AAAAH! AFTER 10,000 YEARS, I'M FREE! IT'S TIME TO CONQUER THE GALAXY!"
Eldrad: "Illiyan Nastase, She Who Thirst has escaped! Recruit a team of Eldar Teenagers With Attitude!"
Lol nice
Oh, this is good!! 😂🤣😂
I don’t get it can someone explain please??
@@greywolf1989 I would like it too
@@greywolf1989 Go Go Power Rangers!
If you really think about it the Old Ones kinda screwed over every race they created, albeit unintentionally.
Eldar: Sure, long lives and reincarnation is cool, but this eventually made their existence beyond boring which just made the birth of a hostile God inevitable. Pluss, making them hyper emotional makes keeping themselves in check more difficult.
Krorks: They will never know peace since they can not exist without conflict to the point they will straight up die if they don't fight for a prolonged period of time, which makes them a danger to everyone around them.
Jokaero: They can build OP technology but they lack the capacity to use it, in order to build a civilization of their own. Thuss they are doomed to always be taken advantage of by others.
Hrud: Their time powers makes then unable to form meaningful relations with others and it even prevents them from settling in a world permanently. As a result they have to constantly migrate , which putts them and everyone around them in danger.
Slann: If we go by Fantasy lizardmen rules. These guys are so hyped focused in doing what their creators would want , to the point they can't think for themselves
1: the eldar being long lived and reincarnating didn't ruin their existence. It was the fact they advanced so much they ran out of obstacles. 2: let's not apply human morals and thinking to a race like the krorks when they and their descendants so very clearly thoroughly enjoy their lifestyle of forever fighting yet seeming to be nearly impossible to wipe out. as for the Slann, I'm fairly certain they do think for themselves because each one has to interpret the Great Plan and how best to pursue its ultimate goal. they think for themselves much like how completely loyal vassals attempt to figure out their own way or ways of achieving an end. some obviously prefer isolation whereas others, like Mazdamundi, are clearly more active, direct and violent in their operations. yet out of all of those, I think the Slann were the most screwed over because they were designed and programmed with a divine level of fanatic loyalty to the point they'll do nothing that'll go against their purpose even though it could actually help it in the long run. sorry if I got confusing during my rambling.
@@Shalltear7731. is just what OP said but the long way around. Not to mention pretty sure they couldn't travel to other galaxies which is an obstacle. They simply became complacent
2. you are correct but that just means they aren't screwing THEMSELVES over. Like the tyranids, perpetually fighting an entire existence cannot be sustained.THey would inevitble go extinct/extinct everything else. Or simply do both.
What are the Hrud and why would their time powers stop them from settling worlds
@@privateuser3726 they would accelerate, or decelerate the time of everything they touch, thus destroying the world, or everyone they come across.
I like to think of the Old Ones as the versions of the Arisians frim Lensmen who accidentally bungled their rule of the galaxy, but still tried more or less the same plan about creating an entity that would surpass them to finally finish their battle... Just, you aren't All wed to have nice things in 40K.
Iphone autocorrect? It’s so bad.
Ah another fan of the Lensmen Series. So few of us
I thought the Slanni were still around the galaxy. They are in a lot of the older rulebooks.
kinda got retconned sadly
Supposedly there was a Slann-like being in the Cabal in the HH book series but that's about it.
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3:10 Lizardmen - greatest creations of the Old Ones and they follow the Great Plan to the gold tablets they fiercely protect from outsiders coming to Lustria.
Regarding 40k ripping off Halo with the theory about the Old Ones creating the Nids, wouldn't it be the other way around?
40k is much older than Halo, and the Nids themselves hit the shelves in 1993. Halo was first released in 2001, and even back then the Flood were seen like a Halo equivalent of the Nids or the Zerg from Starcraft. I'm pretty sure GW can use the Old Ones as the Nids' creators without much trouble from the Halo franchise.
Yes but it would definitely be lame also aren’t the nids not from the Milky Way?
That Necrontyr depiction at 1:50 is absolutely amazing. Just as I imagined them in their organic forms.
My brain: Wait, are you telling me that there are magical god-like frogs?
The other part: of course there would be...
Interesting, I've never heard of the Tau being reengineered Necrontier
Hey Majorkill, if you were ever to make a primarch, what would’ve it been?
Gorilla themed primarch. Imagine a primarch of Vulkans stature with a jump pack and two giant relic power fists. Oh my god the fun that would be had.
Farmer/nature/Bulbasaur primarch. The guy can create life with his blood, can psycho-feel any form of life and kinda control it. Imagine a guy like that in Catachan or Fenris. Maybe he was primarch 11 and was fighting against Mars before Big E arrived and was forced to choose between one son or Mars obviously choosing Mars
A technopath psyker primarch. Good with machines good with psyker powers. A primarch that can control opposing machines with a thought. And show the tau there own little dark age.
It's be cool if we got some more recent lore on the Old Ones and a better understanding of the War In Heaven.
it'd be cool but then they'd have to establish a cohesive story of how anyone in the setting got their hands on such knowledge that could possibly have an impact on the galaxy. it would have to be that because I doubt they'll ever reveal every tiny detail about either any other way and it would probably prove more captivating seeing characters discover things and how they react to the revelations.
Watching majorkill is honestly the calm in the storm of my life
I like the idea of an Old One doing a hard reset with 'nids. They make a shadow in the warp which either suggests they're blanks, they have super blanks, or they have such control over the warp that they can just DO that. Which is reasonably capable of an Old One to create if you look at the Eldar and Kroks as an example. If this Old One is like the psyker of their race, he COULD be the hive mind, but something has to explain the complete 180 on it's attitude towards all life being sacred. 'Nids eat EVERYTHING and leave the rock barren. Maybe they store the "genetic" information?
How have not been subcribed! I watched your videos years ago when getting into Total War: Warhammer, and a lot more recently getting into the lore and minature side of 40k. Thanks man!
Hey man i really appreciate your work especially after work and when I return home there is something Ill be looking on youtube
Now that you mentioned it, i recently read that the Cabal had been killed, i skipped a few books so i could get to the siege of terra series. So could you make a video on how the Cabal met its match? John grammaticus is a G
The old ones are said to have the most advanced technology ever made that no other civilization after them has come close to them in not even during the dark age of technology, wonder what kind of tech they had.
Who is they?
Who is the video about, friend?
They had USB's that could go into the port perfectly, every time
We know the Old Ones had tech like the Weapon, which could create Gods, and possibly used/lost one on Earth for the Emperor to use it on himself. But the Necrons managed to defeat and kill the Old Ones even so, making the Necron tech the best there is. (Warp-blocking Pylons, Phase weapons, Monoliths, the Pharos, and the Breath of Gods among them)
@@vothbetilia4862 the great old ones. But they are not that great though
I actually havent seen alot od this. Really appreciate the deep deep digs mate. Cheers
The biggest "oh what the fuck!" Ever when an old one wakes up and sees what man kind became.
Oh I have done some serious deep dives into figuring out who or what the Old ones were, and from what I can piece together, the common view that the Old Ones were psychic toad people is incorrect. Mostly.
The Eldar codex contained a passage in it's 4th edition that all but stated that the Old Ones were not a singular race, but MANY races.Several other passages from various Deathwatch supplements corroborate this. And they weren't very nice either, they apparently would create and destroy sapient life as they pleased, depending on whether or not they felt said life was either an asset or a liability/waste of time to deal with.
From what I can gather, the Old Ones were like a much more psychically ascendant version of the Hierarchy from the Shakara comic series, if anyone is familiar with that (And if you aren't definitely look it up, it's a great read with great art!).
The conception that the Old Ones are toad people is due to Warhammer Fantasy having the Slaan (And for a time 40k had them too in it's earliest editions, but they've been either retconned or simply dropped since) which were the first race created by the Old Ones in the Fantasy universe to oversee the Fantasy world.
Another thing to note is that Humanity was *not* created by the old ones. Humans in 40k are a 100% all natural free range species, we managed to take over most of the galaxy without any help, baby!
When the Old Ones created Krorks, they either forgot to put an Off Switch on the greenskins... or leave it there on purpose as a way to flip a bird in their final moments.
"If we can't have the galaxy... *THEN NO ONE WILL!"*
They also don't have the ON switch. The brain Boyz are gone. My head canon is it's near impossible to become a krok without one.
Majorkill you have been killin it majorly !! Lol. Your WH40k videos are by far the funniest and most entertaining vids out there.
Isn’t this a tablet that shows all the different beings the old ones made and the tyranid a are on it if I remember . As like a erase button they did make orcs that reproduce rapidly so it’s plausible. They are the pre gods so makes sense.
I believe that the Eldar betrayed the Krorks at the end of the war in heaven and took their accomplishments
It's not a theory the eldar turned on the krorks.
@@licensed_beheader no I'm saying that specifically the eldar turned on the krorks first
Hey @majorkill, my best friend has always loved 40k and has tried forever to try to get me into it. He plays tabletop and the modded version of it for Tabletop Simulator. Your channel has really helped me understand the setting and ignite a passion for it that I didn't know I had and I've binge watched so much of your content. Thanks for helping me at least "dip my toe" into this amazing universe it's been so much fun! Any suggestions for my first army? Weirdly I was thinking Iron Warriors because Perturabo is a boss even though he can be a pouty bitch.
Great video MK. The lore might be spaghetti in regards to Old Ones but you managed to present it well.
*SPOLER ALERT:* IIRC in one of Gaunt's Ghosts books (perhaps Ghostmaker, that holds a number of prequel stories interwined with an ongoing narrative), in the final chapters Gaunt arrives to an Eldar temple with a ragtag group of Ghosts, inquisitorial troops, and a rival regiment's troops, where they find a portal being kept shut by an Old One, who proceeds to just *die* of old age, and forcing the accompanying inquisitor to stay with the Eldar and replace the Old One...
Glad to see you put the calendar a year in advance this time
Folks, let’s face it, chaos is polluting the galaxy, they’re putting something in the warp, something that’s making the freaking ancient frogs gay !
Thanks so much for touching upon the Umbra and the Hrud! They're my favourite underutilised element of the setting!
The Eldar never repaired the warp and in their fall even made it worse. That's kind of sad. But based on the map, the Eldar Empire wasn't that big and they seeded some worlds. It's not comparable with the Imperium. Also don't think it's the average eldars, citizens fault.
"Meet the eldar, the worst case of post-nut clarity in the 40k setting"
-dingus 40k
To be fair, it is also probable that the Eldar Empire, unlike the IOM, was just concentrated and not spread out.
That still means it could have just as many planets as the Imperium, if not more.
Keep in mind 1 million planets is less than 1% of the galaxy.
The Eldar didn't control as much of the milky way because they chose to expand through the webway instead and create their own sub-realms
@@_NIKOS9_NIKOS Pfff. Way Way less than a 1%. Just smaller, very small pieces have millions or billions of planets.
Thou yeah. During the Dark Age of Tech there were around 3 million or so planets. 2 million for sure, the rest I don't know.
@@lukas4468 Ahhh. That's fair. They used the webway a lot and didn't spread that way. Thanks for the info!
Gork and Mork no diff the other gods :3
Next video idea right here
They don't want the fighting to end, that's why they haven't killed de other gods yet xP
"The Old Ones were the strongest race."
Meanwhile C'tan and Necrons fortnite dancing over their the unmarked graves of their entire species.
Even Cybernetic Revolt in 40k aren't quite as bloody as the war that put terran dinosaurs to extinction in 40k history
Me: *headcannons Eldar Gods as old ones that use wraithbone constructs as their new vessels*
When Emperor blinded by his atheism, he also destroys old ones tech used to evolve humanity from apes
Tyranids as a rested option created by Old Ones makes sense.
The Old Ones - who caused the War in Heaven because they refused to help the Necrontyr of their genetic skin condition.
Honestly, if the old ones had taken up the Necrontyr as a pupil race, considering they were basically the only other equals to them in terms of being an original race not made by them, they could have avoided so much blood shed. After all, the best way to stop someone from doing something you disagree with is to get them in your side. Keep your friends close and enemies closer and all that.
@@JustSomeDude42 Well the problem is, the Necrons are already destructive race and they all wanted immorality
It's like we Humans demand our God to grant us eternal life which we din't even earned in the first place, he refuse and we're pissed and tried to kill him
i still dont get why the old ones didnt give a s*** when first encountering the necrontier, when they usually appreciate life in any form. They even begged the old ones for help/mercy and were rejected. Feels like we just need more lore on that era!
Cool vid majorkill wondering when you would make a vid about them
i just realised that the fall of the necrontyr is just the fall of Numenor
I literally just yesterday wanted to watch a video about this. Majorkill reads minds
"When the milkyway was full of milk" faarken killed me.
In before it’s revealed that Trazyn has an Old One locked up 😂
the idea that tao are descendants of necrontyr who didnt join the ctan is cool. makes tao seem more iteresting
I think the nids are a antswarm from the old ones created to collect biomass so the old ones can then use the biomass to create life and if all the old ones died and the nids were just stuck on collect mode would make sense
At 1 mil i demand a flashlight. Also techmarines and how the fit in chapters and how they are viewed or if any of the techno barbarian kings before the unification war could be a threat in modern 40k
Holy shit tau being copies of the necrontyr kind of makes a lot of sense
So the comment about the Flood from Halo is sort of correct. If I'm remembering correctly the Flood wasn't created by the Precoursers but rather when the Forerunners were at war with the Precoursers to assume the Mantle of Responsibility the Precoursers more or less turned themselves into dust to avoid being genocided by the Forerunners and ancient Humanity found said dust and we're like "I wonder what would happen if we made a bunch of dogs rail this weird space dust" and the result of giving the dogs said space dust caused them to mutate and basically become the Flood which then almost wiped out Humanity and ended up causing Humanity to inadvertently end at war with the Forerunners who then created the Halo rings after realizing waaaaaay to late that Humanity wasn't attacking them but RUNNING from something which ended up being the Flood. Someone correct me if my memory serves me wrong.
the gods don't stand a chance against those dental implants.
Kroot seem to be the only race that wasn’t a creation of The Old Ones and didn’t go to war with itself for a stupid reason.
Would be cool to see a current time character have a conversation with an old one.
Tau are modified necrons? I haven’t heard that one before, I wonder if that theory deserves a video.
I used to fined your presentation style annoying, but you've really grown on me, and I find myself binge watching all your old videos. Keep up the great work mate your my intro into warhammer and it's great.
Just here to take credit for the theory that humans where created to cleanse the warp from being tainted during the war in heaven. 😏
I came up with that theory in a comment for one of the videos of baldermort.
To rephrase this:
BOW TO ME!
No, i just wanted to say i hope you like the idea. ^^
'When the Milly Way was full of milk, there wasn’t much life' is probably the best intro ever
@Majorkill, but then who created the old ones and the K'tan? Also, this is only focusing on entities of the Milky way galaxy. Are their god like beings OR other races (aside from the Tyranids) existing in other galaxies? After all, there are a..... LOT of galaxies. I think I recall you saying in another video that no one in 40K has traversed outside of the Milky way galaxy, aside from The Silent King.
As far as I remember, the only "official" lore regarding life in the other galaxies was transmissions from Orks and of course the Tyrannid. As for the question of what created the Old Ones and C'tan... no one? That's question that has never been covered and probably never will be.
The Old Ones: Yes, yes, yes. We're denying you the secret to immortality. BIG DEAL! What's the worst that could happen?
Good job and also is there any aussie folklore about an irish preacher form sligo during the famine days i wont to see if i should be proud as an irish fella.
The precursors haven't been in Halo lore for that long.
"they believed that all life had value...apart from the necrontyr, fuck those guys"
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The yanks that not only bailed your ass outta ww2 but giving you cool nuclear sub toys.
I was thinking it would've been better for the Old Ones to re-engineer themselves into a species only capable of gestalt intelligence and waiting for a time when this species could form a gestalt across their entire species: that being the Vespid. The Old Ones would've been physically smaller [think fairy sized], and then waited for a species like the Tau to arise and join them. Given that the Tau have barely any warp presence and that they're the only scientifically minded society they have the best shot at dealing with chaos, the orks, the tyranids [proved that already], and even the Necrons.
You forgot the part where the C'tan met aussies and called them C'aaants
Extinct space frogs we like it's💀.
Majorkill talks about the old ones being weird toadlike entities...
THEN proceeds to show a super sexy, absolutely ripped, four armed lizardman! XD
So there we have it...
Humanity is the afterthought penial leakage of a giant god toad.
Very grim dark
Hello Majorkill,
Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
Back in the 3rd or 4th edition, there was some talk in the fluff of the rulebooks about how Chaos was likely the only faction with the power to go toe to toe with the 'Nids' full numbers, but Chaos' problem was being largely confined to the Warp. Then you add in things like Doom of Malantai - which purees souls to power superlasers (imagine if greater daemons started ceasing to exist...) - 'Nids don't use Warp travel, Shadow in the Warp nullifies/negates Warp effects, Chaos causes mutations but 'Nids can to some extent directly control their own mutation, Chaos can't "turn" 'Nids who are in connection to the Hive Mind...
I always felt that 'Nids, by the lore, were tailor-made to combat Chaos on its own terms. Who would ever want/need such a thing? An Old One.
Though Necrons and how they operate potentially throw some big wrenches into the possible purpose (or lack of) in 'Nids.
The Tau are a science experiment of the Silent King.
Gork and Mork are too busy Krumpin eachother to Krump the galaxy
Next Video: Can other factions be corrupted to Chaos? Eldar, Orcs, Tau, etc. Would be interesting to conceptualize individuals in the other factions aligning with the different Chaos Gods and what that would look like
I think he already did that
I think there used to be some lore for Chaos Orks. Mostly Nurgle aligned, because they assumed him being big and green meant Nurgle was one of theirs.
@@justinweber4977nurgle can corrupt them through infection, khorne doesn't need to corrupt them, same for tzeench and with Slannesh being incapable of corrupting Orks.
The answer to your question is the following question: Do they have free thought? If the answer is yes, well there you go. It becomes more of a question of what it would take to convince one of those species to join Chaos.
Khornate Orks are Canon from Bloodied Rose, 2017
Nurgle Genestealer Cult is Canon thanks to the GSC Codex Supplement
Gork and Mork! You had me at Gork
I don’t actually think the old ones created or had any hand in creating humanity.
Rather I think that they stumbled appon earth which already had life and modified some of our primate ancestors to create the Jokaero while the rest of them were left to freely evolve.
This is why humanity is so versatile. Humanity has a whole list of things unique to them, like blanks. Being the only naturally evolved race in the current setting would explain a lot of it.
I would also explain why the Jokaero help humanity. Perhaps they work based on kinship rather than a direct link to the old ones. Humanity and old one creations would have a kinship to the Jokaero and because they were programmed to recognize kinship, not direct creation, they help us.
I have wargamed scenarios. Where the slan were still alive where an enclave had been hidden, but thanks to the maldictum out they pop. How cool would it be to have a space lizard army? I can see it now a luckless guardsmen being crunched by a carnasouar.
Your work ethic is something inspiring ngl
I kinda do like the idea of The Old Ones being the WH40K universe’s gods, but being that it’s the universe where everything can and does go wrong, they’re dead, and the galaxy’s future with them.