7 'Non-Lethal' Takedowns That Definitely Killed People
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- Some games offer non-lethal ways to take out your foes, but don’t look too closely at these options - a lot are at least as deadly as the lethal method you’re trying to avoid. Here are the times we took the non-lethal option with probably fatal consequences. Subscribe for a video like this every Thursday: www.tinyurl.com/SubToOxbox
Dishonored, for example, lets you eliminate religious zealot High Overseer Campbell without killing him by instead branding him on his face with a red hot iron. This brand that causes him to be thrown out of the Overseers and shunned by society, at which point he contracts the definitely fatal Rat Plague. Loophole?
And don’t get us started on Hitman’s Agent 47, who keeps hiding unconscious bodies in sealed, operational chest freezers where they will either freeze, suffocate or freeze and then suffocate. Good for making human-sized popsicles, less good for keeping non-targets alive.
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Alfred rigged batman's cowl to show everyone as unconscious so that he wouldn't have to deal with Bruce's depression as he realizes that he's killed hundreds of henchmen.
This is now my head-canon
Oof, that's dark as shit.
I mean, Alfred is the ex military who does shoot people while defending Wayne Manor. So we know he doesn't have a no kill rule.
@@astridposey Alfred having killed more people than Batman is my new favorite Batman fact.
@@Sluggadome_Rotunda_Bernardson it's true. Having been part of the royal army, he has indeed killed more people than Bats.
"I'm a hero. I don't kill people. I just leave them crippled for life, craving the sweet release of death." - Batman
Tex Mechs better to make them suffer
im a hero, i put these dangerous criminals in back in the same prisons they broke out of and that they inevitably break out again within a week or so too kill more people. lol even joker points this out to him many times that batman is partially respoincible since he refuses too kill these highly dangerous criminals that obviously cant be rehabilitated
Brandon Withnell the city of Gotham also refuses to execute them which could be another problem
in some works, batman gets chewed out hard for this
Fun thing I discovered about the Batmobile: if you leave it unattended, thugs will run up to it to check it out, and then start beating on it. The reason why it’s fun is because it turns out you can activate the electric defenses remotely if you’re within sight of the car...
Batman doesn't kill people. He just throws razor-sharp batarangs at their faces until they are subdued.
Nightingale 13 Just sleeping.
I WAS A BOY
NOW I'M A BAT
Nightingale 13 Those holes in their faces? Oh, that's just a scratch....
"tis just a flesh wound"
Nightingale 13 love it💙
Everyone: Hey Batman, don't rockets kill people?
Batman: They're non-lethal rockets of justice
snippax LOL
snippax I mean, he only uses them on armored vehicles
@@epicgamertimes6773 oh I guess it's not possible that there arent any thugs that wouldnt be caught in the nearby explosion
He made sure the tanks were unmanned.
Totally read that in the HISHE Batman voice!
Fun fact - If you've knocked someone out so badly that they stay unconscious for more than a couple of minutes then you have almost certainly given them brain damage, if they don't wake up after an hour then they are likely bleeding from the brain and probably won't wake up at all
TjDolHaus86 Nope; scanner says they're fine
I just read the small print in the Bat Scanner manual and it says it only checks pulse and respiration, ability to check higher brain function is only available in the S+ model
TjDolHaus86 Still, technically not dead
The vigilante crime fighter gets off on a technicality AGAIN! Wake up pro-life judges of Gotham, potatoes ain't peoples
TjDolHaus86 As Andy would say: LOOPHOLE!
As Damian Wayne said in Injustice 2:
"So you won't kill,but you're fine with traumatic brain injuries?"
This is an underated comment
An army without killers is no army at all
"Yes"
@@thomas-stilinski8149 idk an army of no kill Batmen would be scary lol
Precisely why I despise Batman as a character. He won't kill, but sometimes he'll leave them in a far worse state, so unconscious they won't wake up for years or just flat out brain-dead.
Oh no, there is no claiming that locking Elijah in the vault is ever "Non-lethal". Locking Elijah in the vault, trapped with everything he coveted, is "Poetic".
I didn't leave everything he coveted in there I took it all before I left
Yeah, it's all but directly spelled out in the DLC. The whole point of the Sierra Madre is fatal poetic punishment over greed. It's also literally the entire purpose the vault serves.
That being said IIRC you can hear him after you lock him in trying to snag adventurers into getting him out.
You can literally listen to him run out of air in the vault if you listen in to his pipboy in the radio tab
@@admiralthrawnbar4899 really? That's new.
@@admiralthrawnbar4899 he got what hr deserved
Been a while since Jane gave us a physics lecture. Which reminds me, we never did hear the full version of her Mass Effect rant.
Frodo Baggins video?
I cant remember witch video but I know the one Frodo Baggins is talking about. I guess it was supposed to be funny but they cut her off ranting about Mass Effect because it was in a list. The thing is while she is ranting she brings up amazing points that must be discussed!
Was it not the one on video game vehicles that are impossible to drive? Or wait... Either that or the one on the different languages in Mass Effect/video games.
It's the one where they talked about acronyms that made no sense.
"Don't mess with singularities, kids! " says Jane, who just wants to keep them all for herself.
Love the lack of talk about Yakuza 0's curb-stomping and neck-breaking
Majima: "I've never killed anyone before"
Stormy Exactly what I was thinking
Bruh I was bout to comment this
And remember, Kiryu has neverckilled before, either.
@@shizukajonouchi2562 folded people in half on a metal railing? sure, but not killed.
@@marhawkman303 using an actual gun during a car chase? Just rubber bullets
Batman Arkham series:
_Batman beats the absolute shit out of the enemies_
Majin Suu and drives them over on a plane tank
Now you know why Arkham Knight was rated M.
Sauce?
He can also shove their faces into electrically charged panels
Man dresses as a bat and beats up mentally ill people in the cold night
Jane talks about wormholes, putting her physics degree to work.
Jonathan Lowe And here I am with a useless philosophy degree😑
well she mixed wormhole with a blackhole.
In fiction, black holes are treated as separate entities from wormholes. In science however, wormholes, or using their actual scientific name "Einstein-Rosen bridges", are intimately tied to singularities according to Einstein-Cartan-Sciama-Kibble theory of gravity. So she didn't mix up anything, she's just more knowledgeable within the subject than you are, to the point were you fell victim to the Dunning-Kruger effect.
hamstsorkxxor you just made me search the Dunning Kruger effect
Honestly Jane,or any of the 5 at least talks about something they love its alwats an enjoyable experiebce
I don't even think you need to use the wormhole to "non-lethally" murder someone in MGS-5. You can drop supply boxes on people's heads and it only "knocks them out". Do you know what would actually happen if you dropped a 36 pound missile launcher on someone's head encased in a metal crate along with over a dozen missiles each weighing 10 pounds? PLUS the weight of the SEPARATE metal case that the missiles are packaged in? SPOILERS, a broken neck and a crushed skull. It's like dropping an entire rack of dumbbells onto someone.
George Sears
They could still be alive! Momentarily as you walk off....
What do you ,mean, _like_ dropping a rack of dumbbells on someone?
...Should I stop using military surplus to stock my home gym?
not to mention shooting people in the head with tranq darts..........
I mean having a gigantic needle shot in someones skull at high velocity will certainly have no lethal effects whatsoever.
I know it can non-lethally get you a Quiet, does that count?
George Sears gosh mate
Something that always bothered me about Dishonored is, during my first playthrough, I took the ability that makes corpses _disintegrate_, and I figured, "Wow, that seems really good! It must be the skill that lets me play lethally, but prevents the plague from spreading!" Like investing a precious point for mostly narrative purposes, and a _bit_ of stealth convenience.
Nope.
yeh that bit makes no sense, there is no body to be infected or feed rats or anything, it's almost as if the rats are more of a psychic phenomenon, tied to the person's death; also, it could be more related to the chaos that would happen from them dying rather than the rats
A corpse can't be infected either. The weepers aren't zombies, just extremely ill, violent and delusional people.
It's not the corpse that spread the plague. It's that chaos said dead person causes starting to unravel society and the ways people defend against the plague
Oh, locking Elijah in the vault isn't about mercy, or being a pacifist. It's about making sure he suffers a good, long time. It's about rubbing his nose in his own greed. It's about making sure he understands he messed with the wrong courier. A holorifle shot to the face is too quick for that guy. He needs to spend his last days with all of his imagined glory turned to ashes in his hands. He needs to know that, smart and ruthless as he is, he just got completely owned by the damn mailman.
Who's the most Badass Mailman of them all? *slowly looks at Fallout: New Vegas.*
*Kevin Costner has left the chat*
That’s not just a mailman, that’s Courier 6. And don’t you god damn forget it.
WhiteBoyMick I won’t forget sir. May I please have my package now Courier 6 champion of mailmen?
Also, it’s so that you can steal the gold without dying
Ah yes, the times I made fun of the Batmobile "safe" mode. Shooting high-caliber rubber bullets to unarmed and unarmored people, usually their heads, with the same force as a tank cannon. Or, running them over with high-voltage shocks that may or may not stopped their hearts or fry their insides. Or, ramming vehicles with the same force as a bullet train.
Batman does not kill anyone at all.
"I didn't kill him.... He's just sleep.... Forever"
Marcus Lyles He's been un-alived, that's all.
grammar pls
TestoTeo What? Not a fan of Deadpool quotes?
what? no it's correctly: I didn't kill him... He's just sleeping.... Forever
TestoTeo I thought you meant my reply. Besides, if we're marking comments for grammar, you should have started your last one with "The correct phrase would be/read..." Also, we usually capitalize the first word in a sentence. Don't be a grammar Nazi because you might just end up facing a firing squad yourself.
where's the Deus Ex non-lethal takedowns, he straight up breaks someones neck in one of them
wait thats a cutscene
Yeah and in DE:HR if you held on to that button a little too long he was using the blade instead and killing the person nevertheless.
You can survive a broken neck. You're going to be stuck in a wheelchair and being fed, bathed and changed by another person for the rest of your life, but it is survivable.
From MK vs DC, don't forget Green Lantern crushes his opponents in a light-ball construct.
The green lanterns kill people. Even superman kills people if he has no choice. The no kill thing is a Bat thing.
Fallout new Vegas: the reason you don't shoot the messenger
hitmonmaster. Or the hotel
hitmonmaster. Or bury him in a shallow grave
Or at least double tap lol
There was no real reason to shoot the courier, anyway. It's not like Benny had to worry about law enforcement coming after him, it's the Mojave. Even in the game a bunch of people find out who shot you and you're still the first one to confront him about it.
Abandoned Void if you tell swank about the incident before you confront Benny, he gives you permission to kill him. It's about his reputation
In *Splinter Cell Chaos Theory* in the Bathhouse mission you get the choice to either shoot Shetland or put your gun away. Little did i think however that putting the gun away would result in Sam stabbing Shetland right in the gut and chucking him through a window down a building.
GabrielKnightz Well... That's less lethal... Right? 😂
Shetland's spine, liver and other squishy inside bits would disagree...
Jake Huffman more lethal, actually
You are both wrong. It is just as lethal, but a lot more fun.
Patrik Hjorth Are we bad people to think that killing me in a gruesome fashion is fun? I know it’s a video game, but still.
I trapped Elijah in the vault not because I felt merciful but because it was cruel. I wanted him to suffer for what he put me and countless others through, to have him reach his goal and have all he wanted, only to take everything from him :D ;p
catxborsuq1 The entire point of trapping him in there is not to be merciful, it’s mainly so you can steal everything
@@aparticularfriend Pretty sure that's meant to be the ending for him if the Courier works with him rather than if he's left locked in the vault. Maybe you hit a glitch?
In Metro: Last Light, you can get an achievement for "not killing anyone except when forced to". The 'forced to' only applies to the last level. When you're outside, you slowly die without a gas mask for which you have to regularly replace the filters. The achievement ignores the entire segment where you knock out hordes of guys outside and can scavenge their filters from their unconscious bodies. Yeah, if they actually wake up instead of dying in their sleep, the rest of their brief existence will involve suffocating on irradiated air. Good job Artyom.
Yep I remember that LOL. But god forbid you don't save Pavel right?
I once "bumped" into a dude in Arkham Knight with the Batmobile at full speed. He got stuck into a wall and glitched into it directly... but he's still not dead... yeah... not dead at all.
Probably Martian Manhunter snuck in to say hi. Batman didn't have free time for him.
Mm:Hello batman ,how have you be- *Gets hit*
Batman: Making my way down town , driving fast-
He’s got a wife and kids now, he lives inside the wall. All is well
Yeah cus batman never kills
This whole video just reminds me of the time I was playing AC Brotherhood and the last guard in a fight dropped to his knees begging for mercy. I decided I wanted to knock him out so I switched to my fists, intending to just quickly punch him once and be done, but then before I know it Ezio is unleashing a complete beatdown on this poor guard who was pleading for his life. I ended up feeling so bad I threw money on him while he was rolling around in pain.
He choked on a coin and died
Speaking of Brotherhood, I threw a spear at a guard running away once and it followed him around the corner of a building lmao
Fabian Varela Ezio is the truest master assassin. And Jedi. Can’t forget that. He patented the iconic “force spear”.
I think in AC Brotherhood Ezio sometimes do neck breaker on enemies when using fists, but the outcome is the same as any other fist takedowns, which renders them on the ground incapacitated but alive.
Speaking of which, I loved in AC3 hanging Redcoats in Boston trees with the rope darts. Sent a message.
That Assassin's Creed Brotherhood unarmed attack in the back of an enemy where Ezio punches them in the spine, grabs their head and yanks it over his shoulder, you can even hear a very clear neck-breaking crack.
That actually does kill them. They lie there like a dead body instead of being curled up
g4greed they don’t for me. I did it to a rooftop archer and he just laid down and started vibing
Any unarmed attack in AC is just lethal. Come one theres a very clear message when I snap a guys neck. He should NOT be rolling on the ground. Hes dead
Chikirin that’s probs the most deadly, but as far as sheer overkill I’d say the fight club in syndicate. You basically break all their major joints and then knee them in the head.
@@SilverWolf_-cj4qn No, that's just fake, in AC III Like all the unarmed attacks are non lethal, they are normal punches, and the enemies are like rolling in the ground (realistic), and, there always exist the option of Knocking them out by not letting them breathe, that's a form of tactical knockout, I think you confused that with the character breaking their necks
Can’t wait for the thrilling sequel: “Lethal options that obviously didn’t kill anyone”
Dishonored's pacifict target methods aren't supposed to be non-lethal, are supposed to be fates worse than death.
Ironic then that it gets you the "optimistic" ending. I wonder if Lady Boyle is still trapped in that weird guy's sex dungeon.
NEMusic Nah, the guy you delivered her to died "mysteriously", and she was freed.
NEMusic The brighter outcome is because you killed less of the population and struck less fear into the citizens. And no one else knows of the fates of the targets in non-lethal options (or they don't seem as bad / seem justified for the people), while no one's gonna rejoice with Corvo's return if he sliced lady Boyle into 12 pieces in less than a second.
Red.Drone I didn't say it didn't make sense, I just said it was ironic that the "fate worse than death" option yielded a brighter conclusion.
It doesn't, NEMusic. At all. It merely contributes to the spread of the rat plague which feeds on death. You can kill every target and not kill anyone else and get the optimistic ending just fine because you contributed less death to the city.
Ice chests are hardly the most lethal body-hiding places in Hitman. Remember that time you tried to hide a body inside a wood-chipper?
Timothy McLean You just don't activate it! Yeah, isn't like you get stabbed by the grinder bits...
Ooops.
What do you mean "tried?"
Or on there same level, the acid vats down near the virus? Fantastic non lethal storage option as you could hide an infinate amount of sleeping peeps in those
Freezer still deadlier.
Father Elijah was a rogue elder, not a scribe. He was, however, the only elder to have ever been a scribe in the past.
Thank you.
usually after crippling failure the elders get demoted. as we can see with McNamara. he got demoted back to knight.
@@ceasefire2825 yes, but Elijah wasn't around to get an official demotion, he was left as a rogue elder and never given the scribe demotion
Do Bob-Ombs die when they explode?
Dr Shaym Whoa, Doc is on here
Dr Shaym no. They are just transported into another realm where they can live happily ever after without an Italian plumber jumping on and throwing them.
b-bombs aren't sentient they're just exploding robots.
Dr Shaym make more feminist videos!!!!!
They sure don't come back, sooooooo........yes?
Jane looks non-lethal, but she's definitely killed someone.
But no one is alive to confirm it.
Thought that was a cute girl in your avatar, went and looked it up, heck of a nice recolor I must say.
Well, yes. In all the videos Jane does she kills it.
Amelia Yu yeah she's probably killed someone.. with her looks
She has killed the hopes of the creepy CZcams commenters.
I used to see Batman toy ads in the 80's and 90's and think "Batman would NOT use missile launchers on the batmobile!!!"
I guess these ads were just ahead of their times when Batman's costume would be taken up by Crazy Steve.
crazy steve? Crazy steve?! CRAZY STEVE?!?! flashbacks to Drake & Josh
@@whiterice6115 Crazy Steve is the fanbase nickname for Frank Miller's murderous, evil, insane, misogynist, homophobic, psychotic nightmare of a Batman. Frank Miller is mostly famous for writing The Dark Knight Returns, but he's still writing them occasionally. And the thing is, Frank completely lost his fucking mind after 9/11. He tried to write Batman going to the middle east and straight up committing genocide. But DC wouldn't let him. Miller also talks about how he wants to do a Superman story where a depowered Superman is in a nazi concentration camp. Why? Because in Miller's mind, Superman's a jew. No, really. He actually said that. And in his mind, I guess concentration camps are a rite of passage for jews? Anyway. Miller's more recent Batman tortures and murders more than the Joker. He kidnapped Dick Grayson and locked him in the Batcave, forcing him to eat rats if he wanted to survive. He mocks Superman for not taking over the world. I could go on, but you get the idea. The fan joke is that he isn't Bruce Wayne, he's an insane hobo named Steve who happened upon Batman's cave and stole his shit. Hence, Crazy Steve.
I'm a simple man I see Fallout New Vegas in the thumbnail I click
It aint much but its honest work.
Hello fellow courier
Lol me to
Ring-a-ding baby
Same
Majima Goro from the Yakuza series has a delightfully "non-lethal" necksnap takedown
Anyway so many moves in Yakuza serie could probably kill peoples. XD
I'm sorry, but it's actually in the lore of the rabbids that they can't be killed, because if they could, their entire species would be dead 10minutes after their creation.
They throw nuclear weapons at each others for fun.
Forgets the Krogan being the most resistant specie, the Rabbids are in the place.
There's Rabbids lore?
The Diamond Dogs R&D department is so good that they managed to stuff a poor woman into a cigar, making her say "Wooooo-ooooooh" every time we use it. So a wormhole..... Meh.
Mathieu Pr WOOOOOOAAAAAAAAH
There is a part in Arkham Asylum that you can pull enemies to a giant abyss with the Bat-claw gadget, wich totally kill them.
Rafael Alódio I got one goon to fall down the bottomless pit in the Greenhouse by chucking a Batarang at him.
i do that ever play throgh
@@nicholasfarrell5981 that is skill my friend
it's FINE, Batman talked it out with Superman, and he swoops in at super speed and grabs them anytime someone would die. But agreed to otherwise let batman handle it, since Gotham is his city.
I hope I'm not the only one that tossed a bunch of decoys around just to watch the guards freak out as they went from decoy to decoy just for laughs
Trapping Elijah in the vault was not a non-lethal option, it was an evil one. Since you knowingly forced him to spend the rest of his now short life starving in a vault
I was under the impression the vault had food and water supplies to keep the person trapped alive for the rest of their normal lives, making the punishment even more severe.
Cold Fusion the vault was meant to double as a shelter, as long as Elijah wants to he can survive
Meme Dream Machine you hear him die as you leave if you tune into his pipboy frequency, he runs out of air.
Cold Fusion Well, How were we supposed to know the air scrubbers werent working?
Soooooooo.........you CAN escape the vault with all the gold. Without cheating i should add.
Andy does a great impression of an Oblivion/Skyrim character dying in a chair
Ugh I need to read stuff more carefully. I read that as "Andy does a great impression of an Oblivion/Skyrim character dyeing their hair" then spent the next fifty seconds trying to figure out if his hair changed color at any time in this video.
Well observed squire
Strange my NPCs usually just died, their corpses flew out of the chair, hit the ceiling then hit the floor.
Let's put a bowl over his head
Someone's been murdered!
Father eijah runs out of air as you leave the Sierra mardra. You can hear his last world's damping everything on your pip boy as you leave
“When you die, I’ll be at the Sierra Madre, waiting....”
You dont have to leave the gold behind
Just put in TGM if you are on PC. It might as well set the weight to infinity, since you are never encumbered even if you get the message.
TGM = Toggle God Mode.
Stealthboy :-)
What about in assassin creed brotherhood when you can knock people out and drop them in a well or off a 30ft cliff and it doesn't count as a kill
People can survive a broken neck, but they're probably paralyzed from the head down.
Gertrud Bondesson in the middle ages that is a death sentence
spikethompson2000
Actually, archaeologists have found several severely crippled skeletons of people that survived to an old age, showing that handicapped people did get cared for, and there existed monasteries where the monks dedicated themselves to caring for sick and injured people. Being paralyzed would hardly have been fun, but if the person survived the broken neck, they could still live several years afterwards.
More like what about _Assassin's Creed: Unity_ where there are weapons which deliver crushing blows are classified as "less-lethal" even if they are flanged maces covered in spikes. Spikes or no, every finishing move Arno Dorian deals with these weapons involve brutally smashing in an enemy's skull or spine.
@@spikethompson2000 Exactly. Some people were probably looked after, but if you ever saw the stuff about how Mother Teresa's House of the Dying treated sick people, by simply praying with them as they slowly died from diseases that could often be treated with modern medicine, because that was the way the Catholics always did things, I wouldn't be too positive about going to a monastery to be looked after.
I mean the Dead Money one isn't so much non-lethal as poetic justice.
I think one thing they mistaken about the Dead Money "take down" is that, it wasn't about
courier's conscience, it was about to make Elijah SUFFER.
More importantly, he wouldnt starve to death, theres a Vending Machine inside. And he smart enough to figure out how to make counterfeit casino chips so he wouldnt run out of money to pay for said food
SuperLlama42 This is true of the Dishonored nonlethal as well. You aren’t being nice by choosing not to kill targets in that game, all of their nonlethal fates are arguably worse than death and are related to the crimes they committed.
@@Kaarl_Mills i mean if we are using real physics and not fallout physics there is only a finite amount of food in said machine
@@bruhmoment3378
It's performing literal alchemy, Elijah would die of natural causes before it ran out
by the way there is a fun fact about Father Elijah in Fallout New Vegas
if you choose the "non-lethat" option, you can actually hear a radio signal from him on your pip-boy after exiting the vault and exploring around the villa and the casino before leaving Sierra Madre forever.......the radio signal has Elija's voice playing from the vault BEGGING you to let him out, because you guys can make a deal and stuff....but at the end he says "then i'll wait for you in hell courier" so he died that is out of the way......well he at least began again (get it? HA)
When i use knockdown in watch_dogs for an enemies that are not allowed to be killed, aiden shoot their face with a gun in a non lethal takedown.... :v
that's why i don't use guns in stealthy battles, i prefer non-lethal things in WD, than lethal things lol
It’s called a taser to the face
It zaps the brain and totally doenst risk brain death
New video idea: __ RPG side characters whose investments turned out to be a waste of time
(because they (possibly) left halfway through the game)
you mean morrigan from dragon age? 😂
aeris you mean?
Galuf from FFV? (I never played that far though)
Ashley/Kaiden (Mass Effect)
Quiet (MGS5)
Every Follower in Skyrim?
"A grenade shaped like a duck is still a grenade"- Mike
You should know *cough* Hitman *cough*
P.S Happy Friday the 13th everyone.
guilmon981 Or so you think
Mwahahahahahahaha
Of course, apart from the cultists who still preach and glorify it.
BazingaBiz it's Thursday
It's currently Thursday the 12th
Snapped Squire Okay, this'll sound crazy, so bare with me. There are these mystical things called *gasp* time zones! The whole word doesn't just use one time.
To be fair, Corvo had no idea Campbell would contract the plague. Hindsight is 20/20 on that one, but the mark of herecy in and of itself doesn't cause him contracting the plague. I still felt sad, especially considering Campbell is so consumed with fury, his last coherent words are to curse Corvo, but you can't really claim it's all on him as he had precious little control over what happened to Campbell after he got shown the door by the Overseers.
Ah, Batman... the master of killing people in non-lethal ways....
Well, he's rich enough to buy wheelchairs for everyone, so really all he has to do is break their legs... in several places.
Batman killed loads of people in the Arkham games.
KB B yep
Batman only knocks them out. The fact that they might be knocked out of a building, have internal injuries no one will take care off or hanging upside down with too much blood going to their head is irrelevant.
That cowl is definitely faulty... or whomever programmed it just wanted Bruce to feel better!
Ichsuka they already did an episode on this
Nah, they just tuckered themselves out fighting batman so they had to take a nap...a long nap.
Id love to play a game where you're the paramedics following Batmans trail of unconscious foes, desperately trying to keep them alive.
Like a cross between Viscera Cleanup Detail and Surgeon Simulator.
then batman kill- i mean knocks them out
Man, that sounds like a grueling game. You'd have to find, stabilize, and extract 100 patients a day? Oh and you'd have to get to them without dying. Guy draped over a gargoyle on top of the cathedral? I'm on it! :D
LOL
I would play the shit out of this game.
Well to be fair, if you get the low chaos ending in Dishonored (wich is canon) the plague gets cured and all the weepers that are still alive by the get cured...
I trapped Elijah in the vault, not because im a nice person but because i figured burying him alive was much better payback. Also I did all that over encumbered cause I didn't leave any gold behind :)
funny you guys posted this, I am playing Oblivion and doing the Dark Brotherhood questline
Yeah, but everyone knows the Dark Brotherhood are out to do nothing but good.
Its not like they are a guild of assassins or anything.... Right?
You know too much, I must warn my brethren...
Same actually haha
My favorite part of that quest line was the quest accidents happen. I just liked dropping the minotaur’s head on top of the victim.
Oh yes I am doing the "non-lethal" playthrough of paralyzing every muscle in the body! The heart will be fine don't worry... but Im not sure how they will do if I put a bucket on their heads and beat the shit out of them with no fists
Theory: Alfred (Batman's trust Butler and paternal figure) sneaks in at night and adjusts the settings on Batman's cowl so it displays living vital signs for all of the dark Knight's "non-lethal" activities. Does it so Batman can sleep peacefully in his Batman footy PJs!
This needs to be a comic or something
I made it out with all of the gold, had to kill Elijah to do so. Took me about an hour of walking at a snails pace to the nearest store to sell them only to fimd out they are worth so much the stores cant take more than a couple each. Left 20 bars in my house and had over a 100k caps from the rest.
TLDR: You can get all the gold but its much more of a hassle than just leaving them, you don't really need all that money
It was a lesson about letting go you filthy philistine.
Iv'e played New vegas but don't remember doing that quest for some reason, so forgive me if the answer to this is obvious,
but, couldn't you just grab part of the gold, dump it just outside the vault
(or somewhere where you can easily go back to, i don't know whether the vault gets locked after the quest, besides when you lock Elijah in the vault)
and take the rest to a shop or somewhere else safe, then make a return trip to pick up what you left behind?
TL;DR
Couldn't you just make multiple trips to make it faster?
007 - Its a DLC so that's probably why you don't remember it, but the elevator cant be called into the vault once your down there, that's why your luring Elijah in in the first place, to bring it down to you, that and revenge. And once your out there's no going back, so its all or nothing from the start.
+C Henry
Ahh, yes,
I never played the DLC's for new vegas, so that would definitely be why.
What about just slowly hauling the gold just outside of the point where you can't go back?
cause OP said they slowly walked all the way to a shop.
I'm imagining slowly walking till you get to a point you can get back to, dropping some stuff so you can fast travel, and then fast traveling back and forth however many times it takes to store/sell the gold?
007- There is a bunker that you find yourself in when you leave the Sierra Madre, and there are several containers where the gold should theoretically be safe, but most players likely didn't want to risk losing it. I always made my home in Novac which wasn't far away and only with a few geckos in between, so I usually just made the slog for the sake of doing it in one trip, although later I didn't even bother because if you play the DLC right you can get an endless supply of repair kits. Which I would use to max the value of high level weapons and make more off of them than even all the gold could net me. I should note that there is a lot of gold and it weighs in at 20 a piece so you max out very quickly, so you would be talking about a lot of trips, especially if you want to keep all the great armor and weapons you pick up in the DLC as well.
7:25 i love how he dies before the chandelier actually hits him
He just past out
To be fair they were probably alive when whoever scored agent 47's mission
Alexander McCabe I've always wondered about that. How exactly do they know how many people 47 has(n't) killed? Is there someone constantly monitoring him or do they use the honour system?
Debriefing: "So, 47, how many non-target kills did you get on that last mission?"
47: "None."
Debriefing: "Are you sure?"
47: "Would I lie to you?"
Debriefing: "Maybe we should just go check..."
47: "No, no. I promise. I may have put one man in a freezer but we all know that's never killed anyone."
Debriefing: "Fair enough. Good work, 47. Enjoy your perfect score"
Maybe he is discovered soon after the murder, morgue assistant finds him in there shortly after 47 is done freezing the poor guy
EnEbEE OgLoOSpLS And they always find him just in time, too. I mean, I assume they always find him. He's always there again when you go back to the mission. Maybe they keep cloning the guy and everyone else in the town or have built Westworld-like robots to live there because for some reason a bald man with a barcode tatoo, himself a clone, kept murdering people. Maybe 47 never left the ICA and that all the locations he visits are just staged and kept in a sealed, controlled environment so he doesn't escape and murder actual innocent people. Maybe there is no ICA or Diana or scoring system and 47 is just a psychopath who has created all these things in his head to justify his murderous rampages.
Alexander McCabe well the freezer is empy. Maybe not freezes at all.
Alexander McCabe
What if 47 just unplugged the freezer and set a rock in its seal?
This whole list should just be every fight in a Batman game or movie or comic or animated series... Just Batman. His "no killing" pledge doesn't work when you throw people off buildings.
hey, he doesn't kill them, Sir Isaac Newton does.
Dude never said anything about permanent paralysis.
hey! at least he ties a rope to their ankle! what more do you want him to do, bridal carry them to prison and tuck them in after reading them a bedtime story?
Imagine the hospital bills in Gotham city... if you want to make money as a doctor that’s the place to go
Rippertear Loophole!!
Honestly, I'm just expecting all of these to just be every single Yakuza game.
When you play the game of thrones, you win, or you die.
The Wings of Fire book series takes this VERY literally
You forgot the best part about locking Father Elijah in the vault: you get a radio channel on your pipboy where you can listen to him talking to himself while he's locked in a vault forever!
That's not even the best part of the best part as it turns out if you open the obvious trap (for Dean) on the computer in the safe and the hotel guy says you're trapped forever and you're being recorded to become one of the holograms i enjoy very much the idea of a hologram of mr I'll blow up your head saying what we hear on the pip boy
Yeah I feel like no one trapped him to be nice and non lethal it was more of not giving him the mercy of killing him. A much more cruel punishment imo
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater puts you in a position during a motorcycle chase near the end of the game that you can use the tranquilizer guns for "non-leathal" takedowns to still get the pacifist grade even though knocking the enemy driver of a motorcycle unconscious causes them to clearly cause a crash with an explosion that obviously kills them.
one work around is to use the camo you get from the electro guy, forgot his name its been a while since i played. anyways if you take him down non lethal (even though he still dies at the end due to lightning XD) you get camo that makes it so if your facing an enemy they wont shoot you, so you can go throught that chase scene with non casualties by staring at them, and that way theyll just follow you before they inevitably give up and they wont crash along the way
I mean you can go the non lethal route for all of the cobra unit fights and it they still die the same way due to your actions regardless (somehow non-lethal though!). Pretty much the only person you can beat without doing anything is The End lol.
Nah. They'll be fine. They just need to "sleep" it off!
Thats true for most if not all the Metal Gear games. They encourage you to play non lethally but by the end atleast one person dies.
chappie makes you sleep
(in case it hasn't already been said) To be fair, the example from Dead Money wasn't meant to be "non lethal" and was instead meant to be an ironic death for Father Elijah, trapping him in the Sierra Madre Vault (Not related to the Vault Tec Vaults) with the doomsday weapon he wanted, but no way of getting out and actually using it.
Batman isnt cool with killing
But he's fine with traumatic brain injuries
is that why theygo to the asylum
that stills non lethal lol
Can we talk about Ghost Recon Wildlands' "Knock Out" option? You just end up snapping someone's neck sometimes.
Oh don't be silly. You only crush their larynx. They can survive that!
For about one minute without treatment...
as Andy would say
LOOPHOLE
Dino Dive Metal Gear Wormhole Loophole for @$$hole$ 😂
How Andy made it through the entire video without saying the phrase "Loophole" is mind boggling.
U ok hun?
If you leave the scene of the crime BEFORE they die then it's not your fault. LOOPHOLE !
In which video did he say that?
Aldair Mejia I want to say it's the Times Batman Killed People or something video.
What about Benny from New Vegas? Yeah, being put on a cross in the sun with no food or water. Totally non-lethal.
JM he’s crucified...that’s extremely lethal EXECUTION!
JM tecnicaly also disconecting House kills him in a year and not helping Caesar makes him die by tumor.
so being in the sun isnt bad enough?
I never trapped Elijah with the intention of moral high ground, I did it specifically for sweet Justice. You can also sneak out with the gold. Better have the fast travel while over burdened perk for after tho.
The Vault in New Vegas was designed to keep someone alive for a great deal of time given it has one of those miracle vending machines that could create anything one needed to survive. Not saying he won't die eventually given he's an old man with a serious smoking habit, or that he won't just shoot himself with his massive rail gun when he loses his mind from loneliness, boredom and severe depression.
Was he a smoker? I don't recall, but I do remember his journals in Old World Blues implying that he had a pretty serious Mentat addiction.
In his radio conversations which play after you trap him, the vault loses all power days after trapping him within and he curses the courier before his radio cuts out.
Why leave him alive when you can get away with his badass rifle and a sense of satisfaction?
Because his rifle can be found elsewhere and the satisfaction is x10 better when you listen to his radio frequency after trapping him.
and what if he runs out of the Sierra Madre chips? (trust me i played that DLC and it was a pain in the ass to find new chips to keep myself stocked on stimpaks)
Non lethal, like that time I accidentally snapped the neck of the sage near the beginning of assassins creed 4:Black flag but he happened to have unsnapped his neck in the next cut scene
I was under the impression locking Father Elijah in the vault was more a poetic way of killing him without having to go head to head with him, a Gauss Rifle and like 4 Laser Turrets. Especially with the DLCs message about letting go and the main enemy being killed by his inability to let go
Batman: "Shh, he's asleep, when I fight bad guys, they get all tuckered out and take a nap"
how about the melee in watchdogs 2? im no scientist,but im pretty sure a large billiard ball to he face will break some things
Br@nt0_0 I'm also not sure if brutally smacking people in the neck and temple with a baton at least 3 times is non-lethal. Meh, still non-lethal.
It's not supposed to be non lethal. It's watch dogs one where it's non letha agains the criminals.
>beats the [EXPLETIVE DELETED] out of a criminal with a collapsible baton
>leaves them in the cold without any medical attention
>so non lethal
Dani Blabla Hey at least it's better than batman, he outright kills you.
What are you talking about? Running someone over and unloading several MACE rounds into them is as non-lethal as it possibly gets! John Battman's cowl scanner even says that they're unconscious!
... for hours in a cold street with no medical attention.
What about Pokemon, basically the whole franchise is ‘non-lethally fainted’
I dunno what you're talking about, when a rock slide falls on my dog he's usually fine apart from some key organs not working.
Level 2 Caterpie appeared!
Level 100 Charizard! Use Flamethrower!
Caterpie *fainted*
wailord uses body slam
*flabebe(aka one of the lightest non ghost types) "faints"*
What about those OHKO moves like Fissure and Guillotine?
Blast burn
You keep them in a fiery inferno for eternity, in memory at least
"Fallout:Gods Amoung Us"Sounds Like a great game
Really really love "The Cask of Amantillado" reference. Thank you, Andy. You know good wine.
Isn't the New Vegas one more of an ironic punishment/the entire premise of the whole DLC - that the inability to let go of the past will only hurt you in the long run? I can't remember the game pointing it out ever as a specifically non-lethal option.
It wasn't ever specifically shown as a non-lethal option, however it mainly exists like you said as an ironic punishment. But it also exists to allow pacifist runs through the DLC.
You've missed ac unity, where you repeatedly smash a guard with a gun stock of spiked mace only to knock them out.
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An good example from Dishonored 2 is Captain Ramsey of the Tower Guard. The non-lethal option is locking him in a hidden safe-room that only you have a key for and just forgetting about him the rest of the game. In the last level you discover that at some point after you left Dunwall he was turned to stone, and unlike with Emily/Corvo, you don't even get the option to bring him back to normal.
In the Arkham Batman franchise not only is the car definitely killing at least half of those bad guys, but a LOT of Batman's takedowns and/or finishers and counters clearly breaks the enemies heads, necks, spines and other semi-important parts of their bodies. Some gets thrown off buildings from the 50th floor even. And as a bonus, as this video showed us, every single car you hit with your bat mobile clearly kills every single person inside of them, they are NOT walking away from that head-on collision when their entire car explodes.
Assassin's Creed also has a lot of those, when you chose to use your fists instead of blades to take down enemies you are CLEARLY breaking both necks and skulls - "knocking out" my ass.
I thought the Dead Money DLC was the best narrative adventure ever. Let go, Begin again. Not just a mantra, and not just a hammy moral aesop. No, dead money was almost an interactive novel about how those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat it- which was the overlying theme of the Courier's story in Fallout New Vegas. Elijah's best fate was the most poetic of the four- A man who never could accept that this drive to obtain power at any cost was the source of his repeated failures, and thus is inevitably trapped by a honeypot of everything he ever wanted locking him in there for the rest of his life. He is literally a man who studies the past, but does not learn from it, and one of the most interesting Fallout villains in my mind.
(Character spoiler alert)
For me the best moment was when you save God from going on a rampage in the kitchen of the casino, but in doing so he loses his memory of you and everything that happened to him.
I was so happy for him because for years he was forced to work for a madman, hauling unconscious people into that casino day after day. And the worst part was that God himself couldn't do a thing because Dog, his other self, was constantly suppressing God.
I know that you could chose to either let him stay God or let him become Dog, but the memory loss looked like the best solution so he could let go of his past and start over again.
I trapped Elijah and let the Sierra Madre go.......with 100 sneak, speech, and all the gold bars. :^)
How did you pull that off with the heavy gold weight? High strength and a lot of booze?
Jeremy Stallings The writing was definitely amazing.
Jeremy Stallings Probably the glitch where you sneak by and kill him before he closes the escape.
Andy! You can take ALL 37 bars of gold :-) You don't have to go without!!!
You can also use stealth boy and have barely enough time to sneak out for "non-lethal" in order to avoid fight while walking.
Its a lesson about obsession and letting go, you filthy disgusting philistines. >:(
Exactly, I obsessively claimed all the gold and let it go for a fair price :-)
Speaking of which, how about the times in Xcom when you felt emotional pain?
I love these videos so much, I never skip the ads ;)
I love that most of dishonored and dishonored 2's non lethal takedowns are more brutal than a simple quick, clean, death.
Pierre Fouquet They are so wonderfully over the top. You think 'great i'm not killing I'm being a super good guy' only to realise you're turning a dude into living vegetable, branding someone as an outsifer or condemning a woman to a live with a crazy stalker. It's so awesomely horrible lol
Obsidian Butterfly Or how the non lethal drop takedowns in Dishonored 2 consist of pounding someone’s head into the pavement to knock them out. That at least causes some minor brain damage
Obsidian Butterfly i will point out i hadn’t seen the part in the video where Andy mentions the drop takedowns yet, i apologize
Eamonn Doherty I'm also sure something as simple as knocking out groups and stashing them in a cupboard is lethal. If i had was unconcious and had 4 heavy dudes equally unconcious all stacked on top of me in a pile- I'd probably find it a bit hard to breathe...
To be fair, in Hitman no subtitle, you can assume that within the time it takes to finish the level that the creepy morgue guy wouldn't have suffocated and frozen to death in the freezer....yet, so HA! LOOPHOLE!
Sure Agent 47, whatever you say. Not like you've ever deceived anyone ever or, you know, do that for a living
Agent 47 That's true. I mean, every time you go back to the level there they are still fine and well.
Agent 47 do you come back and pop him out, pretending to find him their so you aren't framed
That wormhole analysis was epic! Also, I'm now in love.
Jane, I love your Buffy shirt! (and the video! Well done, everyone!)
What about everything in Pokemon. I’ve just used a flamethrower and the enemy just “fainted”. I don’t think so
Tom Jackson Technically, Pokémon DO die so if something fatal happened I'm sure they would tell you...
Se7en2107 they don't tell you. I'll have a Pokémon get burned over and over again and it's perfectly fine. Pokémon are immortal unless the story requires dead Pokémon or ghost types
Adam 420 SPOILERS: In the latest season of the anime they show a stoutland who dies from old age. So that's how I know it's possible. Besides in the games there's always a creepy place like Lavender Town where there are actual graves. I think maybe it's not so much that they don't want to tell you that pokémon CAN die because they like reminding you wherever you go. My comment was more of a joke because obviously they'll just never tell you YOUR pokémon died because you are the protagonist and the target audience is mostly little children so they probably wouldn't want to traumatise them. Then again, we don't know what messed up shit they're planning for Ultra Sun and Moon.
Se7en2107 very true. I also agree about the messed up things they might do and have done. I forget which TV series or movie or whatever (haven't watched or played Pokémon in years) but they had Ash died and the Pokémon were literally crying tears like a waterfall. He was later resurrected but it's still sad and made everyone sad in real life. Who knows what they will do in the future
Adam 420 That was the first movie, actually. The feels
Really?! Not a single one from Deus Ex Human Revolution? The non-lethal takedowns in that game are insane.
I would have went with either of Green Lanterns Heroic Brutalities over Captain Marvel's. I mean one literally has him putting them in a bubble, then crushing them in the bubble, the other has him dropping two hammers down onto their waist, flatting it.
I would add Dragon Age 2's quests Act of Mercy (act 1) where you save Grace (or turn her into the Templars). Not only do you save the b***, but she then turns around in act 3's quest Best Served Cold where she's had a few years to think about things and blames YOU for
1. her decision to follow her blood mage boyfriend after HE burns down the Circle of Magi in Starkhaven;
2. because you help her escape in Act of Mercy---which potentially puts your life in danger (esp if you're a mage) because you either bs the Templars or have to kill Ser KissAss....Karas. I meant Karas. (Yup, your Hawke is a terrible person for showing compassion. Go stand in a corner.)
3. because you're a horrible person for not having the option of giving her money or food or magic carpets to escape with. (Weirdly enough, Terrie --a mage you also save w/in the same quest--, becomes a mage who helps other mages leave Kirkwall or evade the Templars and doesn't seem to resort to blood magic, but yeah Grace, you run with your ungrateful hatred. [b****])
The ungrateful b****, Grace, I mean 'Grace', then kidnaps someone you love in Act 3's Best Served Cold. And not just kidnapping, she goes so far as to orchestrate your brother Carver's capture if he's a Grey Warden. (Or a Templar, but hey, the Templars are largely douchey, so whatever.) She also kills one of the few non-douchey Templars (Thrask) who tries to help her. The game forces you to kill her in Act 3, but let's face it, you really REALLY should have done it in Act 1.
You just knew it was coming.... And since the Circle doesn't seem to offer anger management classes, you REALLY knew it was coming.
So.....a takedown?
What about Adam Jenson's 'non lethal' takedowns? He punches people with arms that can reduce concrete to dust! That's got to have broken a few necks.
I was about to mention that as well, but in defense to that, he knows how much force to use to do so, I was about to mention two of them in Mankind Divided, there is one where he will take a person and slam them up against the nearest hard object, like a wall, a box, or even a door frame. Plus there another where he will create a fist and hit a person in the back of the neck.
Meghan Hause does he know how much force to use? Before his augmentations he was just a run of the mill security guard, and as he keeps going on about how he "didn't ask for this" I doubt he really liked or studied augs much. I'm pretty sure he's killed some folks, even if only by accident.
Also how about the one where he turns his hand into a grappling claw, grabs an enemy by the face, and then spins them around. Surely that will break a person's neck in no time. XD
Run of the mill security guard? He was a SWAT team commander. But yes, punches to the head can very easily be lethal, even if you know what you're doing, and the whole spinning thing would /definitely/ leave the other guy with severe spinal trauma. Those Detroit thugs aren't getting back up.
Matthew Ashworth That's a lethal takedown actually.
I'm like 90% sure Mike wasn't the one who got the silent assassin score...
To be fair, locking Elijah in the vault is never called "a non lethal option" the game even acknowledges that he starves to death.
You mention hitman but forget about the garrote wire. If you don’t know what garrote wire is. It’s pretty much thin metal wire designed to cut people’s throats or take their head off. Not to choke people out. Think of a sharp version of the third string on a guitar and you’re pretty much spot on. Garrote wire was used by mobsters to assassinate rival members like how agent 47 uses it. Or in WW2 they tied it too trees on either side of roads and waited for soldiers on motorcycles or open top cars to pass by. Taking their heads or other body parts clean off.
The garrote wire is very much lethal ingame though.