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- Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos - Grom Hellscream and Thrall Kill Mannoroth Cinematic
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Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos is a high fantasy real-time strategy video game released by Blizzard Entertainment in July 2002. It is the second sequel to Warcraft: Orcs & Humans, and it is the third game set in the Warcraft fictional Universe. - Hry
"I... have... freed... myself."
"No, old friend. You freed us all."
I was 12 when I first watched this after the orcs' campaign.
Thrall's wild scream of anguish made me almost cry in pain.
It same like mein the past dude
That's cuz u were sticking those damn woofers into your ears
I did cry....my potato PC crashed the first time i played the cinematic
@@Geraldo_Rivian damn that's painful
@@Geraldo_Rivian I'm sorry that happened.
The fact that they didn't make Mannoroth an ordinary NPC boss fight but a badass cinematic is soooo epic
real men cried to this scene
yes
Idd
Tch. Real Horde remember to defy all. The example is set.
áá
💯 😢, I cried to this when I was a teenager
Back when Blizzard entertainment .. actually was dedicated to make great fucking games.
Relevant.
1:53 ''...within your heart you know we are the same'' sure dude you both are voiced by the same actor
Every few years I come back to this cinematics because, it can be sentimental yet not contradicting its characters. Grommash was selfish, prideful, ambitious, arrogant and reckless. His flaws were on full display even in this cinematics. His arrogance made him think he can take on Mannoroth alone. He wasn't motivated by his duty to his people, he was motivated by the thought that he and the Pit Lord are the same. His recklessness to stand against Mannoroth by himself led to his demise. Finally, even in death, he truly only cared about his pride. He was glad he personally freed himself, and proved that he's no slave to the demons. His people and others are mere afterthoughts.
Yet, all of those flaws were also reason why he's a hero. His ambition was what led him to drink the demon's blood, empowered him to fight. His recklessness was his source of courage, allowing him to go toe-to-toe with a Pit Lord and win. It was his selfishness and desire to prove himself, pride, that fuelled his axe, to strike down the demon on his own and free his people. Throughout the story, I think Metzen and the writers were very deliberate, in highlighting Hellscream's shortcomings. They showed him disobeying Thrall, showing him fall for the demon's tricks, showing him relish power. All of that to cumulate to him redeeming himself. In that, they also show him being remorseful, regretting his actions, yet he just couldn't help himself. He's still the same selfish and power hungry Grommash, yet even someone like that can be a hero.
That's how I fall in love with Blizzard and Metzen's stories in particular. Characters are players in the larger conflicts, but always driven by their own personality and personal ambitions, not just something arbitral like fate or higher power. I love that Arthas didn't succumb to the Lich King's influence just because of Frostmourne. He picked up Frostmourne on his own will, out of his extremist view of justice. Jaina didn't follow Medivh just because "it's fate". Her curiosity and belief in herself led to her to journey into the unknown with a strange oracle, abandoning her friends and family. Throughout the story, these character's traits are repeatedly on display, to tell the viewers that these people are doing this because they are who they are. They are not just a representative of their "faction".
I just can't see the current WarCraft cast or even StarCraft being their own person quite like the old Blizzard's characters. I can use the same framework to describe people like Mengsk, Kerrigan, Aldaris and so many more. I didn't dislike, despite nor hate any of those characters before StarCraft 2, no matter how much cruelty they exhibited, how selfish they behaved, how many times they betrayed others, because they felt like they were their own person. You can see or understand where they were coming from, why they did what they did. You might not sympathise, but sometime you can't help but be curious about them and their fate. That's how great those characters were.
This is... Exactly the articulation that I've been trying to figure out myself for years. Because you're absolutely right, characters in WC3 and earlier games did not follow fates or destinies or prophecies. They did their own thing. Hell I don't really remember there being much in terms of these concepts except Medivh being called a prophet in WC3, but he was just warning people of the Burning Legion about to come, and characters reacted in their own unique ways to his message.
Whereas in SC2, Kerrigan is _destined_ to become the new Xel'Naga, Raynor _must_ spare her because of this prophecy. All events had been manipulated by Amon, and even the Protoss were fated to become his servants, until they cut themselves off from the Khala.
In Diablo 3, it starts with prophecy, and your character is a Nephalem, destined to take up this quest. As much as I actually like the Nephalem concept, it's still an example. Diablo 4 has much talk about prophecy.
World of Warcraft turned Illidan again from someone that would do whatever it took to save his people, into being someone chosen from birth and destined to walk this path. Oh and in Shadowlands they made it so literally everything that has ever happened in the Warcraft universe was planned by this Jailor that came out of nowhere.
Old Blizzard had characters, and ever since WotLK ended, they stopped having characters and started having puppets.
Illidan in WoW isn’t the best example. WoW has butchered many characters but definitely not Illidan. They did the prophecy stuff to demonstrate how Malfurion went the route of a prototypical hero, but in the end it was Illidan who was there at the “final stage” (what should’ve been the final stage) facing off against the biggest evil in WoW (Jailer is a loser that doesn’t count). Illidan broke so many rules and made so many morally grey or downright evil choices along the way, and don’t forget, he straight up rejected his prophecy by killing X’era.
@@RealJuiceWrld Everything involving the Naaru in Legion spits in the face of everything that was built up about the Light and the Naaru before that point. So forgive me if I find everything about this prophecy and Illidan rejecting this prophecy to be absolutely contrived. Illidan was still a puppet, but it wasn't being a puppet to another in-universe force, it was a puppet of the writers that wanted to tell the story of "But what if the good guys are actually the bad guys!?" They forced all of that crap in there in order to tell a tired cliche that doesn't even hold up to the archetypes of reality.
Fucking on point. You said more in three paragraphs than I've been able to emote the last ten years. THIS is why Blizzard was great. It was personal, but not ignorant of the world. They knew their characters both at small and at large. Nowadays, game companies seem to take either route, and they forget that noteworthy people walk both paths.
Great, great post.
This is real Thrall, not Green Jesus.
Pickle jesus,
@@ElioRigonat you must been watching nixxiom :D
The green pickle of blizzard
To be fair....u need both hands to cast as elemental shaman
Grom is the real green Jesus, a martyr. He died for the Orcs sins.
A powerful cinematic experience. Wish movies were like this.
vineeth thekkethil there used to be movies like this 😂
Always cried seeing this end scene of orc campaign, i miss warcraft, this cinematic is so worth it
when Mannoroth forgot that Chaos damage ignores Armour.
That grom already reverted back to normal so he has no chaos damage anymore. In additional mannoroth has divine armor type. That halved hall weapon type(except chaos)
But y kow grom YOLOed xD
Aditya NoViant I think he just use bloodlust and turn his damage type into chaos and it deal x10 damage for single target or something
I'm pretty sure Mannaroth does not have divine armor nor chaos demage but he has piercing attack
Chaos only ignores armor type not value.
@@vaskataseva2403 yes he has piercing damage only but plethora of base health without the strength (around 4250)
Mannoroth is probably level 1 here and Grom is level 10 and wearing 6 +15 claws.
That explains everything
Thrall forgot to enter 'whosyourdaddy'
@@adressunknown to bad Grom dis-abled the cheat
😂😂😂
It's hard to come to terms with what Blizzard and Warcraft has become.. I miss the days of Warcraft 3. Back when Blizzards games were some of the most powerful forces in the industry. RIP.
indeed
I miss blizzard... Fuck you Activision
Got that right.
today's game don't make these amazing cutscenes anymore. kudos to warcraft. whoever played this game, I salute you all 😊😊
This scene hit's differently when you've played Warcraft Adventures: Lords of the Clans. It shows how these two forged their strong bond
there is also a book about grom and thrall, lord of the clans or something. good read.
2024, 22 years later. Still one of the best game cinematics in history. Miss you Blizzard.
So many years later I still like this one better than the WoD launch cinematic, carries more weight :)
+xLetalis While i can agree in some aspects, the WoD launch cinematic had some amazing music in it, and some lovely set pieces. Its always great to see this one tho!
There's also that one throwback scene to this Cinematic
@Hamza Muhammed Al Zeın well WoD scene happen first the cinematic trailer ( without garrosh ofc ) then this one happen
@Hamza Muhammed Al Zeın The WoD Cinematic was an alternate timeline, that's why Grom lived.
هههه😅😂
A fine critical strike :)
Anjing manusia
Mawas
That is Culling blade
I like how the whole time Mannoroth is reveling in his own power laughing all the time.
I remember playing this when I was 12 and barely understanding any english whatsoever and I still felt that. Such powerful scene.
Nice going thrall throwing ur weapon first into the fight..
His only weapon ...
His a shaman he doesn't need weapons
@@jwmoon1989 he's yet to become shaman at this time
@@magnaviousyk3118 he was a shaman alrdy lol. he became a shaman b4 the events of W3
@@graddeos hes a far seer. he couldnt seer that far though
I was like 17 years old when i finished orc campaign and im 36 years old today watchin this cinematic..still a masterpiece❤❤❤
"Thrall. The blood haze has lifted... The demons fire has burned out in my veins... I have freed myself..." 😭😭😭
When you boosting your low lvl friend on a raid
If this comes in Warcraft 3 movie these lines must be used
Thrall... the blood haze has lifted... the demon's fire has burnt out in my veins....I...have...freed...myself...
No old friend you've freed us all
Most epic way of death fucking YES!
Fuckin' A
I think they'll do Arthas' story first and then Thrall
Perhaps the most favourite cinematic in all RoC campaign for me. Outstanding!
The primordial urge of Warriors to oneshot their enemies with their swifty macro
03:08 - Me after working trough the weekend to fix last minute rush thrown at me by the project manager.
Grom: The boy believed I could be saved, but he didn't know what burns within my soul when in my heart I know we are the same.
Mannaroth: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Mannaroth:"The blood haze has lifted... The Orc fire has burned out in my veins... I have freed myself..."
Archimonde: "No old friend you freed us all.UWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH"
I remember back in 2004 when i was leveling my undead warlock i actually ran into mannorth corpse in ashenvale and you can find his armor and gromm axe near warchief building before cata, donno if they moved cuz last time i played was 2010 and i miss the old wow so much the game became less social and anti fun as the expasion progresses
This is my favorite Warcraft Cinematic and always will be.
The Warsong Clan lost their leader and his son becomes the new chieftain, hoping to follow his father’s footsteps.
And That's The Honor Of Orcs
And he drove that clan's honor to shit.
ehehe about that...
He followed his step of pursing power, but die differently. Fucked up his dad as well, by traveling back in time
Did Grom use whosyourdaddy? lol
Anyways the sound ambience is always nostalgic. 😥
just op blademaster crit ^^
RIP GROM GREAT ORC.
Hahaha RIP
I will always like this cinematic better than WoD. Here the situation is entirely hopeless, yet Thrall and Mannoroth dares to fight the big Mannoroth. Even thought Grom was more of a brutal villain, he made a heroic sacrifice in the last minute for his own kind and freed himself in the process too. The WoD cinematic doesn't have the same feeling in it.
He never did this for his people. Even in his dying breath, he only acknowledges that he freed himself. Thrall is the one that tacked on the "he did this for his people" stuff to everyone he told.
"Thrall and Mannoroth dares to fight the big Mannoroth" heh :)
Both are good in their own ways. WoD cinematic i thought was very good (better than the xpac itself by miles ironically) and i felt some good goosebumps when i saw garrosh save his father from the fate he was destined to, even in an alternate timeline dimension. Knowing the WC3 and WoW story of the characters.
That's because nu-blizzard can't write good stories anymore.
back then it was a true desperate move since the legion was winning. Had illidan and Hellscream not kill off both generals, Archomonide would've overwhelmed the alliance and won at Twilight.
Moral of the story:-
*Don't cosplay as THOR if u in a serious confrontation*
Look at the face shape who can cosplay him anyways
This brought tears to my eyes as a kid. I can never forget this moment.
ah sweet nostalgia.
I always loved Grom in this cinematic... but i could never get over Thrall, "the boy" looking like a 60 year old smoker.
Orcs standards
I'm so bummed that they're not gonna make Warcraft 2 movie...
I was looking forward to seeing a pit lord in the movies
Why arnt they
I watched this over and over again as a 13-year old. It might sound like hyperbole, but the simplicity and directness of Grom's arc helped me navigate right from wrong on an emotional level, especially as a male. I still believe, 20 years older, that the Orc campaign taught me how to be a better person. Because I have always, since I was eight and WC2 was the thing, loved the Orc's, but found their default evil to be propaganda.
Edit: My fucking god, I hope Frostgiant Games nail it.
Everytime I want to cry, I watch this
This scene used to terrified me. Manoroth towering over Grom and Thrall is just so menacing to little old me
Wish we could fight mannoroth in an actual gameplay
In the game his model has chaos damage, huge ass hp pool, shock wave, thunder clap, bash, and reincarnation.
@@j.emimarunrak4348 i used to against AI, so would map editor him into all maps on my side, and just keep him in the base 😂, i remember 5k hitpoints, insane attack speed and a collection of mountain king and tauren chieftain abilities
@@mdawni6933 how huge he is and how fast he attack looks kinda funny lol
in game he is slow as fuck
@@j.emimarunrak4348 indeed, i was thinking like this big dude is upset and sweating it
best cinematic in game history ...
Mogul khan and thrall vs pitlord
Mannoroth: "hahaha, you cannot defeat me"
Grom: "nat 20 bitch"
I played this as a teen. (Yes I’m old) I hated when they made wow. I know it made them a lot of money but they left good storytelling behind. Arthus was so damn crazy also
Looking back to this era of Blizzard games you understand why people say they're shit now.
Dammit, after seeing this masterpiece a number of times now going all the way back to the early 2000s, it wasnt that long ago when i noticed that Grom's eyes went back to their natural state after killing Mannoroth.
Malfurion Im gona call a bunch of wisps to destroy archimonde
Grom hellscream - 1 hit cleave vs manoroth
srsly, gentleman, how much a MASTERPIECE is that?
Every detail, the artwork, ... this is from 20+ years ago!!! The level of perfection in such a Orc characters. Think for a second, there's another work of an Orc so well made as these two? In terms of manifestation of strengh, power, brute force,... Lotr, war hammer, wherever orcs have been represented throughout the decades!
And how imponent is Mannoroth here? LOL, no easy to critics this!
Oh well, time to do another full Warcraft 3 campaign playthrough
As someone who grew up starting with Warcraft 1 it was such an amazing twist that the orcs became one of the most heroic plot lines. I loved that demonic magics had corrupted their people and thrall became my favorite character in Warcraft. This plot line makes me a horde fan for life
Back WHEN The Blizzard Entertainment™ Had Soul...
When one of the greatest heroes of your race opens the belly of his enemy and dies due to a fart
That was his deathrattle : final explosion.
On you really made me laugh hard.
The great hero used to be a villain for most of his life, yet became a hero thanks to the one time he killed the man who made him a villain in the first place. How symbolic.
Look up exploding beached blue whales and youll see Grom got off easy
his turd was the leader of the infernals
Epic😢
Champion of the Horde vs master of the demon
Poor one out for the dead demon Boyz. Back to the void for you demon blood
I always watch the original :D The reforged so fuckin bad,,,they ruined thralls scream at the end its so weak and meaningless. This one it is so epic and powerful like it should be.
Feel like in general they've made all characters look too pretty and safe. The orcs in wow don't look nearly as badass as I imagine they would be. I still like the art you find of Grommash if you do a google search of him with severed heads attached to his belt. Doubt they would ever make them as menacing or as monstrous as that in game anymore.
The Orc Campaign ending sequence allows the Thrall and Grommash Hellscream roar a giant kanji character 怒 (Anger) at 0:51, 2:00 towards Mannoroth which inexplicably turns Mannoroth into a flame and then "3:24 No, old friend. You freed us all." 3:32 ゲームオーバー! (Game Over!) グロム死す... (Grom Dies...) Thrall Roars in anguish.
Why didn't thrall just use Healing Wave on him?
2:58 "Thrall, the blood haze has lifted. The demons' fire has burned out my veins." Now regarding healing skills. I dont think it's applicable to use it in a way like restoring blood or blood transfer.. so yep. Normal Healing usually works for minor flesh wounds.
bro the avg enh shaman would literally watch you die rather than heal lol
he's out of mana, apparently
The fuck are u on about
Thrall doesn't have healing ability
He is enhance shaman, won’t over heal the burning damage
Remember that time Grom 1-shot pit lord Mannoroth? 😂
I love Grom°s charge with PSychocial by Slipknot, its AWESOME ♥ For the Hellscream! its true my Warchief! Grom for Shadowlands!! and return him to OG as Warchief ♥
i seen alot of videos warcraft 3...i really thank you for your time sir/miss
A
Thrall should've aimed for the head
he did but there is fall damage because of gravity which why it hits body instead , also it won't matter since he will cover his head with his wings anyway :P
"I don't feel so good, little brother."
When Thrall wished he had M'jolnir instead
He did Mannoroth has enormous wings.
And the reason it doesn't hurt is because the cannon was filled with fel so the elements couldn't empower him enough.
There were the good old days of Blizzard!
2:00 when the ubereats arrives
hi leth, do you know if you buy things from the star wars the old republic website, do they send a bill or not?
+Emperor Skeletor they won't send you a physical one if that's what you mean ;]
Ok, thank you for your help
TEARIN UP RN NGL
"the boy believed you could be saved, but he didn't know what BURNS within your soul, within your heart you know....we ARE THE SAME" still gives me chills, mannoroth legit sounds like the devil
Blizz sure loves the horde.
Horde meta always played a huge role in Warcraft.
@@Pablo-se9qx too much so, mostly when thrall was the only hope for saving the world.
Considering Thrall's VA, Chris Metzen, was also the writer... I am not surprised with the way the story was written.
Yup that clearly explains 2 watching going crazy 1 expansion after you party with them.
who doesen't
fucking love Grom's warcry !!! he's best orc !
I hope Arthas gets a chance to redeem himself in Shadowlands.
he surely will
Hehehehe, probably. Unless the Alliance and the Horde has a way to go in the Shadowlands.
Redeem megaLUL , will blizzard should redeem every evil so the answer I hope not , let him in the maw best place for him
Oops he became a lightbulb
He became the lich king, if you uncannon World of Warcraft, he'll have a chance.
Back when the sheer imagination of 'Vulpera' d be an orc meal
Legendary cinematic , this is why I love WoW
This is actually why I hate wow, retconning and destroying a well told story with well written character's just so you can grind you're boring and repetitive MMO trash
@@chillhour6155 mmo’s get repetitive and boring but I just play less when I get burned out, try other games and is better
first time seeing this now the wod cinematic is 1000x better
This still resonates so deeply inside of me. It's so fucking cool. And look where Blizzard ended up, from a 2023 perspective. :(
so how did Gorehowl end up at Prince after this?
I always imagined the Dark Riders of Karazhan found it and brought it too him
What move is that when thrall throws his hammer at monnoroth? That move had a name
Still better than the reforge
Poor grom hes much more warrior like than thrall man u will be missed
Seloterio Renz grom is a warrior thrall a shaman lol
Grom hellscream was a warrior damn sure of that
Fokking epic.
Good
I always tought that Mannoroth was kinda weak, to be killed by only 1 axe cut in it's belly
Phillip Bathory it was Gorehowl
Level 1 pitlord
Demons don't due in azeroth
Broxigar was another standard orc with an enchanted weapon by the elves, and managed to strike Sargeras a blow that forced him into withdrawing. SO i dont see ur point here
he took divine rapier from dota and landed a crit strike
Grommash just need to stay on the ground face down. Why? he need to stand and absorb Mannoroth destruction and made me cry when i was a boy.
Mannaroths base HP is 4000 ABOVE and grom must have a critical rate 99999 if you go to the world editor you can change or upgrade he's critical skill that's how he one shot him🤣🤣
whosyourdaddy then dis-abled the cheat
The Final Boss died in 1 hit?
I call bullshit!
Grom activated *whosyourdaddy* cheat.
Miss the old blizzard
My feelings... Mah hart mah sole
Why didn't Thrall cast Ancestral Spirit? Is he stupid?
the big question
has anyone realise hat mannoroth has no fire on top of his head InGame
F for You my Warchief!!! ♥
Then you play a game and pick pitlord in the tavern and wonder how blademaster killed him in the cinematics.
Jesus what level is his cleaving attack
Is this same dude who showed what demon blood had gived to him. In movie
susigang 96 yup
susigang 96 Grom Hellscream. He who damned and deliverd the orcs
That dude in the movie is Guldan
i amtheone yeah he is the one that was in deleted scene of the movie
He isn't talking about Gul'dan. He's talking about one of the deleted scenes in which Grom shows how powerful the fel has made him.
I don't remember Mannoroth dying in 1 hit lol... ONE PAWNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They really changed nothing in the remaster did they
Thrall u r no Thor, hammer throwing does not work.
Ka Po Chu so does Muradin...
It works in the battle of Hyjal
imagine not playing Horde
Garrosh is way too more selfish and ambitious compared to his father Grom. But he isn't even close to his warrior skills