Review | 2018 Infiniti Q60 Red Sport | Casual Performance
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- We do a quick review on the Infiniti Q60 Q50 Red Sport. With 400HP, the output wars continue to accelerate. Can this mix of old and new tech push Infiniti past competitors from BMW, Lexus and Audi? We look at the pros and cons of this mid-level luxury car.
SavageGeese is:
Scott Turbowski - Nissan Lover
Mr. Goose - Inflatable Pool Tester
BendPak is the Offical Lift Provider of SG
Index:
00:00 - 00:22 Intro
00:22 - 3:50 In the Shoppe with Turbowski - Front Suspension
3:50 - 5:00 Rear Suspension and Oddities
5:00 - 6:11 Under the Hood with the Twin Turbo V6
6:11 - 10:10 Driving Impressions
10:10 - 11:25 Exterior Impressions
11:25 - 15:09 Interior Impressions
15:09 - 19:00 Final Thoughts - Pros and Cons - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I'm just here for the control arms
Bro you gotta see um.
bullshit, your here to test the sun visors
I'm here for the product planning advice :D
g2 get your hands one one of these to test, but try to get it from a private name who updated the tires. The dunlops Infiniti puts on are straight up dangerous.
Forge Aluminum baby~
If you had a valet confuse your 2 door sports coupe with a Mazda 6, I don't think his opinion is valid anyway.
Ironically though the Q50 does look like a Mazda 6 only a little sexier. Especially from the rear quarter panel. Q50 Redsport owner here :)
Pretty sure that story was made up just to get his opinion across. No way in hell is someone confusing that thing for a Mazda 6 lmfao...
I'm a Nissan guy, but that new Mazda 6 is quite a nice looking sedan (in it's highest trim level).
Mazda badge is similar to infiniti except it's upside down. Maybe he didn't look at the car but at the badge.
This is the worst car ever💀☠️. Looks like Aston Martin , 400HP rocket ship, baby GTR, the worst review I've ever seen
A stroll down memory lane featuring Turbowski.
Kind of the same for the Q60, unfortunately.
I have a 2017 Q60s red sport. You nailed this review. I absolutely love this car, hands down one of the best looking cars at any price on the road. however there are some quirks. Infotainment and tranny being the biggest. You are correct when saying this is a luxury car first. It is not a German sports car, it also is more reliable as a daily driver than one too. This car is whatever you want it to be, and looks good doing it. Everything you said was spot on however the underneath of my car does not look like the one in this video. I have AWD and opted to not get steer by wire ( thank god) and Immediately took the crappy run flats off, went plus one 265/40/19and put a set of Michelin pilot super sports on and it makes a HUGE difference. Thanks for your great reviews, I enjoy all of them. Good stuff!!
So do you recommend the car for a balance of luxury and performance?
Yeah they are stunning to look how don't know how you would ever confuse it with a Mazda 6 maybe the valet got the badges mixed no other cars look like the q60 to me it looks like a concept car for the road
I love that SavageGeese's "Quick Reviews" are still almost 20 mins long.
I test drove the Q50 3.0T in the 300HP guise and I really liked it. I can only imagine how much more fun the 400HP is with that minimal turbo lag. The DAS deserves a special place in hell, though.
yep, really wish someone would review a red sport w/o das and in rwd.
I love my 2017 q50 Red sport 400, My favorite thing to do is floor it, once in a while. When you're at a complete stop and just you floor it, there like a 0.3 sec you feel like you arent going anywhere and the car just takes off!!
sheldon lewis right...
The Das is not bad I own a red sport awd that has every option and if nobody told you it had Das then you would not notice anything.
@@noahlugobaseballandboxing7015 I had one a loaner for a few days. True, if nobody told you you wouldn't know but you'd still know something didn't feel right with the steering. It doesn't feel natural at all.
I enjoyed hearing Scott talk more about the driving impressions of this Infinity. Its always nice to have another opinion!
Can you introduce a final "Goose Spec" where you talk about how you would spec the car if you were to buy it? What options would be best, make the most sense, etc. This car seems like a perfect example of how you could explain the perfect Goose Spec Q60. Thoughts?
Shocks me to this day how he doesnt do this.
I think Jack went over this recently, they don't want to recommend too much as I understood them. They will tell us about the engineering and what the engineering will do for the owner but they are not getting into telling people how to use their money.
Used to be critical of Turbowski but I genuinely enjoy his commentary, you can tell he knows what he's talking about. If scott ever sees this, keep doing what you're doing man
One of the few cars that got Turbowski actually interested. Kudos to Infiniti. Such a shame cars like these are dead.
Traded in my '09 G37 for an exellent deal on a 2016 Q50 RS in November 2017. My opinions based on my experience: 1st the easy part: the engine. It's awesome. Done. 2nd, transmission: If you've owned a G37, you know how to get the most out of it. When it upshifts (in Standard mode) from letting off the gas and it gets into the 1500-2000 RPM range, you can either give it a little extra gas and it'll downshift or you can downshift it with the paddle on the fly (or the shifter in manual position). In Sport+ the upshift into low RPM doesn't happen. In Sport it happens rarely because it holds the lower gear/higher RPM's more, though not as far as in Sport+. In fact, it'll downshift a little more aggressively than my taste when slowing down abruptly in Sport and Sport+ but I've corresponded with other drivers who prefer that. So, it's a matter of taste and, thus, your own test drive experience is what you should base your purchase decision on. 3rd, steering: my test drive took place in very congested traffic. I was quickly sold on the power and looks and didn't get to scrutinize the steering. I was very concerned I may have made a bad decision on my 100 mile highway drive back home because steering felt too sensitive in Standard. After a couple of days driving it in Sport and Sport+ mode on my favorite local twisties, I found it better centered and slightly heavier, thankfully. (I can't be sure it isn't me adapting or the ECU.) So, I set my Personal setting with the steering and engine on Sport, suspension in Standard. 4th, suspension: very very well-planted on either mode IMO. (By the way, I get no little noises, rattles or buzzes at all in my car. The run flat tires could be a little quieter. Next set will be Michelin SS's or PS4's.) 5th, looks: are a matter of personal taste and I love my Graphite Shadow car with Gray wheels and tints. I could have bought a couple of comparable vintage/mileage 435i's but preferred the Q50 RS body lines and interior room. That's just my personal taste. 6th, infotainment system: It's fine and, truth be told, I don't really care about that stuff. Finally, regarding appearance of quality from underneath that Savage Geese cites as being the same as G37: I drove the G37 to 87K with 8 years of Miami, Florida heat on the bushings, and all other components, and I never heard a CV joint knock, squeek, buzz, nothing. Never had to replace any components at all other than brake pads, tires. Honestly, I felt guilty, spoiled, privileged when I looked back after trading the G37. So, Infiniti won my brand loyalty with a great previous experience and the aid of a 2000 Maxima that was as trouble free as my 05 Accord ESV6, Camry, 626, 2 Civics and 2 Corollas. Just sharing my experience. Oh, most importantly, every time I drive it, I have a lot of fun.
Same story, I got the Q50 RS well below sticker because people don't see it for the value performance it is. Opted out of all tech. It beats cars twice its price in a straight line and handles better than F-Sports I've driven. Sure it doesn't compare well with German competitors but you are sacrificing a lot of reliability there. The RS is an amazing all arounder for the value.
For what its worth I passed my Subaru STI to my wife. The RS is not as slick but still engaging enough, and that should say a lot. Very happy with it.
Same. Had acuras, hondas, and nissans before and never had any major trouble with them. I owned the RS 400 for a year now and love it. Zero issues. That's a lot better than most brand new germans.
Xeno, is your RS 400 faster than your STI?
I'm sill rocking my 05 g35 coupe and 08 M35 as daily. No plan for letting them go in near future. Rock solid. Power is still there just like he day I got them. Surprising
thanks for your message bro
Savage geese reviews:
Professional, comprehendive, accurate..
Absolutely thr best reviews by a far margin.
Dude....
You have the best car reviews on the interwebs!!! If not for how thorough y'all are, the comedic value of your sense of humor alone, makes for great entertainment. I'm looking forward to seeing your brand grow! ☮️ in the middle East, homey!
"Fake vents on the side ".... Umm no. Look again, they are functional...
Barely
@@yourvault1612 They are either are functional or they are not.
Functionally fake?
I love how they go so deep on how technically it feels to drive it, no one does that beside these guys
Red sport with normal steering, no safety tech, wheel and tire package, intake, exhaust, lower down pipes, springs, and strut tower bar has turned this coupe into something amazing.
I agree that the transmission is the main thing holding it back, but otherwise with a little bit of work this q60 is a beast.
Turbowski was fired up for this one. Nice video, and as always great honest review.
I've had this exact car, the red, Red Sport AWD, but without the carbon fiber accents for a little over three months now. I'm getting around 24 MPG. I usually have it in eco mode when I'm stuck in traffic, but otherwise tend to drive a little over the speed limit in both the normal and sport modes, so I'm not sure why you were only getting 15. The rattle you heard may have been that the rear seat wasn't all the way back. I heard that same rattle when I first got the car and realized I hadn't pushed it back into the catch all the way after having the back seat down. I haven't heard it since.
Having driven a Lexus SC430 for the last 11 years, the infotainment system is not a big drawback since I've been living in the stone age in that regard. I did not know you could turn it off in the Q60 until I revisited this video after buying the car. Thanks for showing me that trick. Other than the seat belt being a little uncomfortable and no Apple Talk, I love the car and really enjoy driving it. For my taste, it is the perfect combination of power and luxury and I've had several compliments on the appearance.
a real review on this car...thank you! ps, you've brought out things i never got from any other review...appreciate your hard work.
He hit it on the head." Being a good car is no longer good enough". This is a crazy competitive environment since about 2017. Everything is good and the odd ones have unique strengths.
Turbowski brought the fire this time around. Real good to hear some good commentary.
I have a '16 Q50 RS400 and love it after a year. Here's how you take the Q50/Q60 Red Sports to the next level. Don't get DAS, the standard electronic steering is still much better. Take the $2400 you save from that "nanny package", put on Michelin Pilot Super Sports or A/S 3+ tires, you can go 255 on the AWD and 255/285 on the RWD model stock wheels, add the Infiniti Motorsport exhaust and body mold splash guards. You'll have hundreds left over and a car that 1) steers better (no DAS), 2) handles and rides better (stock tires stink), 3) sounds like a performance vehicle but not over the top, stock exhaust is way too quiet.
With the above all the nit picks go away, the engine was awarded a Top 10 pick and deserves it. I am a fan, and I've owned Germans and Jags, not a track car but a great sport daily driver.
I owned two Beemers then a Jag S-Type R, then a G37 IPL, briefly a QX50 and now a Q50 RS400. Ain't nobody telling me what to like or what to buy, and I could care less what they prefer. Probably will buy Infiniti again, which will be my 4th, when the "new" Q50/60's come out, zero problems, the Beemers and Jag loved to be in the shop. People love to bitch, and most can't afford what they love to bitch about, not worth my time........
What did you think of your IPL?
I liked it, 3.7 was a nice engine, platform was getting dated, but the steering was fine (hate DAS) and it had a nice growl. The new 3.0 twin turbo is a great engine,more HP, more torque, better mileage..the next generation........
Well I'm looking at the 2010-2013 G37 coupes, it's just so hard to find a manual, I would love an IPL but price is an issue too. Was yours auto or standard? I heard the auto is kinda clunky and isn't fluid sometimes.
Also curious about the reliability and the Bose sound system? What's your take on those, thanks.
JD Foster i have the 2013 g37x with the bose performance series. That shit is awesome, wife looooovesss it.
Have a Q50 Red Sport(no steering wire) love the car just change the OEM run flats tire to normal ones car drive and handle so much better.
Yep. Have the 3.7 q50 on 19s and changed the run flats. Ride is more comfortable, more quiet.
@@m.m14433Same car. I agree 100%.
So how would you avoid the steering wire thing? It's an option?
@@NinjAsaya yes, I have a 2016 model I don’t know if still available this option
Good stuff, Goose!
I can draw good conclusions from your reviews; you tell it how it is.
Look forward to seeing your reviews and new cars you are excited about.
Cheers!
The red arrow as you camera pan under the steering is really good. I can easily tell what I should be focusing on based on your helpful tracking.
Best review for this car I've seen yet.
The 'professional' reviews panned the Q50 with DAS. Yet when I got mine I could not understand where they got their incredibly negative opinions on the car.
Before I even start watching any of your new videos I like it! :)
Thanks!
That channel is so good ,I can watch it more than once.
Awesome review just got mine last month and decided to go base for 52K and was a great deal! Been driving it as my daily for a month now and I totally agree with your review of the engine and transmission up to the technological side it was all accurate!please keep posting videos like this
You hit it on the spot with car interior design. Technology is ruining the modern day cars. Let the experts take care of that department with Apple car play and android auto. Or simply do a phone mirroring to a screen. Let’s keep mechanical buttons that doesn’t get dated!
This car is beautiful. And rare too where I live.
Thank you a car reviewer that doesn’t baby the car and actually tests it to how it supposed to be driven.
Finally a video!! Man I wish we could see you more often sir, I would pay for more videos.
It’s 2024 and that exterior still hold’s its own today. I can’t stand all the tech that cars have today. My last car before going back to a somewhat basic, reliable and powerful enough daily driving car ( 2017 Honda Accord 6-6 Coupe) was a 2021 Mazda 3 AWD Turbo, I definitely did not like all the tech that besides a few things, ends up causing more issues then it’s worth. When traveling I continue getting cars from various brands that I feel nothing when I am in them . They basically do the driving for you, it just feels horrendous. Ill continue to take good care of the cars I own now because I am not a fan of what’s out there,
This engine imo seems like the true successor to the 3.0TT engine from the 300ZX Twin Turbo. It's like Nissan has finally been able to pick up where they left off back in the early 2000's.
Yeah not some Renault minivan engine
I have a 2018 Q50 RS fully loaded\. Between my wife and I we have had 6 infiniti's in 6 years. G35, G25, G37, G37 S Hybrid, Q30, also drove the Q60 RS many times. SavageGeese you nailed this review in every respect, good and bad, nothing left to be said there. The question is value, these lease much better than the competitors for the same MSRP. Negotiate hard with the dealers, it works. They are great cars with very livable flaws but $ per $ they become more attractive than the competition. That's why I stick with Infiniti. If only they upgraded the transmission and info, then wow.
Really informative review, as are all of yours. Thank you for the good work.
I own this car and dont get what he's saying about the steering wheel doing corrections in the highway. It doesnt do that, only if you turn of the steering assist, which keeps the car in the lane without you having to touch the wheel. Its an amazing feature for long straights and yet people complain! Just dont enable it lol
What year is yours? If this was filmed the first year the model was available you might have one newer that has been fixed.
ZF makes a great torque converter 8 speed box. My B9 S4 has that box...it shifts quickly with close ratios in the lower 4 gears. Also GM and Ford have that sweet 10 speed auto. So torque converter autos can be acceptable performance pieces.
Sorry but the Ford mustang 10speed is terrible! Great full throttle but in town its hurky jerky, always trying to think what your going to do with too many gears, not smooth at all, never own another!
I have to Agee with everything said in this review! I own a 2018 Q50 3.0t Luxe that I totally love except the transmission it is slow and yes the electronics are old. The Bose sound system is very different from the Bose system I had in my Cadillac, I can’t balance the sound from the front to the back and the tire noise is another issue as well. But I’m satisfied with its short falls because I enjoy driving this car so much. It’s an old mans Luxury Sport Sedan and I’m an old man. Thanks for a great review.
Wow! Excellent review, I love your attention to detail and methodical approach.
Honestly the best car reviewer ever
Great review Savagegeese. like you said, "if you are Nissan guy we'll love it!" #facts this 7 speed slush box has come long way since 2009. only thing I wanted was a 7 speed dct with a little bigger turbos for tuning and It would be almost perfect... but I'll take it for now :). oh... I own 2018 q50 rs400
Condensed look is 20 mins - lol. Only savage could pull that off. Still the highest quality and most thought out reviews for real car guys who want all of the details and none of the theatrics or b.s.
@savagegeese Question, which would you reccomend; Genesis G80 Sport or Infiniti Q50?
lol @" Let me get your Mazda." I'm a nissan/infiniti guy but that made me laugh. valid point.
Another great review! I love how you tell it like it is. These manufacturers think they have all the shizzle and it's really nothing more than swapping technology together in a half-hazard Manor and expecting people to pay 65- grand for the car.
That under body crap and wire looming on a $65,000 vehicle is unacceptable. You could probably pick these vehicles up off lease if you're really wanted one badly enough.
Lot of people hate on the infinity and say bad things about it but owners know how great of a car it is in terms of longevity, exterior, interior, performance, great car overall.
Very true. Infiniti is actually more reliable than hondas. G35 n g37 have close to none recalls and complaints on nhtsa website. Only 2014-2015 qseries have steering software problems and navi freezing up. All fixed since 2016. Id take infiniti over hondas any day.
Honest and thorough review as always. I'm still waiting for the golf GTI or even golf R review :D
I like my G37...you actually have steering input, manual, simplicity, reliability....
Why i love my old school 08 M45 Sport!👍
My mom had a 2004 g35 coupe when it came out, it was absolutely beautiful and started my obsession with cars. I had a 04 350z and last year bought a 2013 G37 IPL so I know these cars and platform. IMO Infiniti has went downhill significantly since 2010. The q60 looks good but it has the same 7 speed auto as last gen, all this electronic crap including the steering and it just lacks soul. Maybe thats just the trend of all luxury makers but the g35 coupe was perfect and I wish car makers would go back to making simple yet elegant cars not complicated piles
also my g37 was 50kish new and has the same problems my 04 z had lol.....thats why you buy used with the depreciation hit
Exactly, and why spend $55-$65k? And if you really want to spend that much, then whynot something like a GT350? or a Cayman S? or TTRS? Agreed they will be bargains used, but they may be harder to find than the g37's from the last generation as I don't believe many of the redsports are even selling, and Nissan will use that as further justification to kill off sports cars just like they have with the Z ("see, we tried, and it didnt' sell..." marketing flunkee's and accountants are destroying these companies). I wish we could go back to the days where products sold themselves because they actually were GOOD, not because marketing added acronyms and "tech" fluff. Too many manufacturers are taking the checklist approach, rather than sticking with what they are good at. Checklist car, checklist blond, etc...time to go watch FightClub again...
I totally agree I'm not sure what happened to them recently but I love my G
Yep. I still live my 05 g35 coupe and 08 M35. No plan of getting rid of them as they're rock solid and still as powerful as the day I bought them.
hey bro, I'm looking at G37's, maybe considering an IPL but hard to find in manual plus budget might be an issue. Can you give me the pros and cons on the IPL though?
I always like it when Turbowski is in a video
Help! In terms of reliability, longevity. Would the RC v6 natural aspirated be a better choice than a Q60 ?
I love the seats and the exterior or the Q60 but i wonder if its as reliable as a lexus?
Savagegeese - Just leased the Q50S for basically 1K down 450 a month. At that price point I think the 50S/60S is a steal. By no means is this car perfect but it's all about the price to value ratio. Also not mentioned in your video, the Bose audio is pretty damn good.
Agree on the value and I too was very surprised about the Audio. The wide sound stage it offers is incredible.
Exactly .This dude loves the car but still can not say it .Just because Japanese car manufactures do not over charge you doesn't mean it is anything less than German competitors .
This is is perfect example of a coupe car in V6 .i take it over any V6 Audi or Mercedes for sure any day
Nice. They are around$110.00 more now a month
I can save $60,000 by having a drive-by-wire simulator. Then I can use my starbucks-by-wire simulator to simulate a Venti Iced Carmel Macchiato sub White Mocha. Then I can simulate taking a crap, before starting my simulated work. I can simulate going home and simulate going to sleep... providing the software can be updated.
Score - 9.5
I actually own a q60 red sport awd and if you have never driven the car like most people that comment. Then it's a must drive and if you had no clue about the steering then you would not notice anything. It's such bullshit that every review is the same it's because they come into the review thinking about what the next man said. I say if you like the car drive it for yourself.
I agree with your sentiments completely. Most folks never notice the difference. Some folks do.
There is one here in Dallas 2017 35,000 with 12K miles.
During the acceleration run, a drop of spit or water just barely covered the speedometer. What are the chances?
These reviews are very well made.
Q50 hybrid with DAS owner. Came from BMW. I love the Q50. Intouch is great but seems abandoned. But it does everything I need and more and is not intrusive or annoying for me. fly by wire steering is just great, but it takes some miles to get used to it. It does not pull left or right. Did you druve with ALC on? But fast, refined and great fun in the back roads.
Shades out the speedometer 9:10
love your review. Looking under the car can tell how the car’s build quality is in general
i would like to buy one ... but when are they going to up date the center stack? .. So, far i heard no change for 2019..
One big pet peeve I have with this car is it does not come with Navigation standard. You can buy a base Nissan Maxima (all Maximas have NAV standard) but it's upmarket and much more expensive Infiniti Q60 you have to pay extra for it. In 2016 I rented a mid grade Maxima which of course had NAV which was great since I was traveling and needed to know how to get around. This year from the same rental company I selected a sports car to rent and at some point in the process they put me in a Infiniti Q60. I was BLOWN AWAY by the exterior and to me the interior looked equally nice. Then much to my chagrin I discovered the car had no NAV so I had to switch out to a Dodge Charger RT. Why? Well even though the Charger was lacking NAV, it had Android Auto and Apple Carplay functionality. Come on Nissan! If you are not going to make NAV standard in a Coupe that runs upwards of 60k in price at least offer Android Auto and Apple Carplay standard! YEESH! :(
Nav is standard where u come up with that? Perhaps rental company want to charge u?
Great video, but you never mentioned how well this vehicle can drive to the grocery store and get the groceries.
Its great just watch the commercials.
Does the q60 body on the 2018 look the same as the 2019??
great review! I had the same exact thoughts about the steering feel as well. is it possible that you can do a VW GTI review sometime soon? loving the content !
This would be even more of a boss car if it had a 6MT and the steering wasn't so fake. I still love the car though
I work at Infiniti as a Technician and I did a PDI on a Red Sport today and he's definitely right about one thing, that thing flies. It's extremely quick and the RWD version lights up the tires as soon as you let off the brake, it's fun. The steering is terrible and I hate the steer by wire technology it's shitty. I wish they would rid themselves of it. It's better on the Q60 than the Q50 though.
Love your videos, guy!! Please review the 2018 Acura TLX A spec Sh AWD next please!! It’s what I just got last month!
Literally just discovered your channel but im liking it so you get a sub 🤪
Sentra engine swap????
Thanks for the review I think I'll just keep my G37
Love this review. You're spot on with your criticism of the interior tech. I like the look of the car, but the underwhelming performance and last gen tech is enough to steer people away.
Another great and thorough review many thanks
Platform from 2001, synthesized steering and Nissan reliability! What's not to like?
I have two nissans, one with 410.000 km And one nissan suv with 140.000 km And i have zero problems. So stop nissan is The Best brand, i have over 20 years And i Dont pay 1 euro
What's wrong with Nissan reliability? I've had 4, including a 350Z I've driven to 190K miles. All very reliable.
future62 Generally people too cheap to maintain their altimas who could barely secure a loan in the first place.
yup, nissan reliability.... had an m35 with 220k km, ex35 with 250k km, a g37 with 120k km, and a q50 with 35k km, not a single issue EVER with any of them. Keep believing bullshit...
(Toyota, Lexus) Honda uses the 1990s trash platform.
Only high-end performance cars use the new platform.
It is a con artist.
Please, review 2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0 6MT next. First time in my entire life I am thinking of switching from a VW to a Honda...
The new Accord has a more upscale looking interior than this infinity, not sure about the exterior styling though.
Surprisingly, i am OK with the styling - I wouldn't say I like it, but it doesn't bother me. 2018 GTI SE and Accord Sport 2.0 are at the top of my shortlist, but I didn't test drive them yet.
The under body and open hood reviews are really helpful and although not important to the average Joe, it is helpful in my purchase decision.
The cooling design (of the engine) on this car, is it the same design of the m5?
The whole review kinda sounded like you were making excuses for the car that doesnt meet your expectations. Sounds like you want to like it but dont.
That feels like Infiniti's brand identity.
lol kinda feel the same way
ZDriver1996
Precisely how i feel about the rc350
I wanted to love it so much. Truly. I used to stare at them eberytime they drove by... then i drove one
Yess. Exactly. I leased a RC350 for two years from 2015-2017. It was a FSport with all the options with red interior. I loved the look of it. But I friggin hated driving it. It was basically like a horse with way too much weight on top of it. It would run but it had no feedback, no pull. And on the top of it, it had the worst gas mileage I've had in a vehicle. It was rated 28 highway and 23 combined but I never got more than 19mpg out of that car. The car was full of electronics and had the most awesome sound system (Mark Levinson) but that wasn't enough to make it a car that I'd actually buy. I wasn't the slightest sad when I turned it in. I actually was glad when I did.
I now drive a Q60 2017 3.0T. I actually like this car since it has a lot of pep. Lot of people go into reviewing this car with the knowledge that it has drive by wire steering and that they tend to overfocus on that for some reason. I bet if they never knew that it had DBW, they probably wouldn't notice it much. In fact, that never ever bothered me one bit. In fact, I can't tell the difference between this car and my wifes other infiniti that doesn't have DBW. The one thing I'd say is that Infiniti screwed the pooch by installing a shitty exhaust on this car. Most people including the other dude in this video who was trying to find words to indicate of why he didn't like the driveability of the car even though it has great pep and handling was likely eluding to the fact that it doesn't sound like a 400hp car. It doesn't. It like other newer cars generates exhaust notes through the speakers which is pretty lame. Fortunately Infiniti got the message and are now offering a helmholtz oem exhaust as an afterpurchase option.
Those carbon mirrors are overlays... looks good though
First time I've seen Turbowski contribute something to these videos!
My dad has a Q60 red sport 400 With the carbon fiber package and Infiniti sport exhaust, and it is an awesome car and I like to see what people say about the car!
"It's just laughable how messy it is, and again what does it mean for the regular consumer, not much, just read between the lines" - a.k.a. Nissan/Infiniti build quality
@William Vagabond The rear is just a multi link suspension. Nothing special. The front is double wishbone, which is used in race cars
Lol
The GDI Twin Turbos makes me nervous about reliability for my hard earned money.
You don't buy a luxury car for reliability. That's why the smart people lease them, so they don't have to deal with the horrendous long-term reliability or the terrible depreciation.
People are running these with 600hp with no issues so it seems the gdi injectors seem reliable in this case
When will you do a review on a Kia Stinger? I love your honest reviews and i am looking to purchase one in near future.Waiting for your review.
Get rid of the run-flats...What are the best replacement tires?
This review bums me out a little bit. I have a G37S, and much of the pros and cons haven't changed. The 7AT was so-so 10 years ago... thankfully the car is fast enough that it almost doesn't matter. The infotainment system on my 2012 seems BETTER than this- it's ancient, but it's responsive, easy to operate, and reliable. Chassis is the same, etc. Engine and design aside, seems like a bit of a waste.
The 2018 is MUCH better than your 2012. In just about every way.
@@UALHVY I much prefer my new 2018 q60 rs to my 2012 g37s; although I did truly love my G37S but it had sentimental value of being the first car I ever got exactly that was exactly what I wanted and not what I could afford.
I have been waiting for this car! Most people lease luxury cars anyway and this thing is real cheap like 379 a month awesome vid love the quality of these vids. Great value car value!
Where have you seen 379/month for a Red Sport? I think you're thinking of the Silver Sport. I mean, sure, it can be 379/month if you put a huge amount of down on a lease, but most people put around 2000-3000/down and with that much down it'll never be 379/month anywhere in the states.
Aram Garibyan 2017 Infiniti Q60 red sport in Raleigh NC, 379 a month with 4800 down for 39 months. Check Infiniti USA official website
Anton Zuykov down payment is a sump cost bro
Anton Zuykov I’m just sayin you can get a 2017 red sport for 4900 down and 379 a month. Seems like a good value to me
When will I learn? Seems like your math didn't check out there bud. Infiniti's usually lease for 39 months with an average $2k down on sign-off before payments are calculated. 4k-2k = 2k, and for 39 months 2k extra down translates to about $50/month for 39 months, 379 is about 380, 380 + 50 = 430, not 490. Pretty much nobody leases cars with $0 down. When will you learn how to do basic math, eh? Blyat.
Totally agree with your points.
Just bought my Q50 SIlver Sport (3.0 V6 twin turbo 300HP with single water pump RWD plus DCC suspension) back in Jan and our local dealership does not provide Red Sport model(400 HP with doube water pumps).
Our local dealership cancel the "drive by wire" and the "lane keeping system", they also upgraded the infortament sytem(Still 2 screens but the good response time and even with Apple carplay).
So I am not struggling with most of the CONS you have mentioned with this car, all big thanks to our dealership.
Plan to bring it to do some track days so I might probably need to upgrade my brake system(pads/line/fluid) and cooling system before that.
I know this car is running on a old platform with 1.7-1.8 tons of weight so it definately cannot compeat with all of these cuting edge morden sport motors.
It makes me feel like I am still driving a Rocky Balboa or John Rambo in 2022 lol.
Overall me and my family all enjoy the time when we are cruising on our Q50 and I have heard that the new "Z" is using eactly same power train so there might be more after market options in the future.
Anyone have any recommendations for a sporty Manual car in the 35 - 40k range?
12:10 Preach!
Gear ratios aren't right? What? 1st and 2nd are short to get you up to 60 quick and the rest do a great job keeping the car in it's power band when shifting. Not sure I follow you on that comment. On the freeway in 6th you're at over 2,100rpm allow you to just goose the throttle to pass. What's not to like? In terms of slow, I'll give you it's no ZF nor the DSG I've come from in my S4 but under WOT it's not slow and shifts up and down without a lag. It's under normal driving where I find it lags a bit.
Thats what I thought too. This 7-speed gears perfectly through out whole speed range.
It really does. Gearing isn't the problem; programing is. I have no doubt if turners tapped into Trans. Control Unit and re-worked the shifting it would be way better. It upshifts too soon even in Sport Mode and under moderate throttle it downshifts too slow. Key is to use the paddles down shift manually and then apply the gas. I don't expect nor care if it shifts "crisp" under moderate to lazy driving. That's actually kinda the idea unless you're calling for power.
Actually his description sounds a lot like my 2010 g37 - the transmission is obviously conservative unless you go into sport mode. Even sport mode is not all that aggressive - it almost could be the regular mode. Lastly, even with the conservative gearing the gas usage is high. All that being said my 2010 can be quite fun in manual mode and has been very reliable - overall the pros outweigh the cons
My thoughts about this episode: I loved Scott's enthusiasm in this one. It was cool to see how he explained his experience driving before Mr. Goose. Also really liked the Final Thoughts section with the projector displaying slow shots of the car in the background.
My thoughts about the car: Love the exterior but the interior is quite bland and boring. Even without the drive-by-wire, $54K is a bit much if you take into account the shoddy quality evident on the underside. It seems like "just another luxury sports car" and not really that intriguing to be honest.
Can't get enough of these reviews though! And ready to see what you guys think of the Kia Stinger!
This guy sure knows how to make great videos👌👌
EVERYONE complains about the way this car drives.
This car is half baked. They just slapped a turbo engine into this car and dropped it off in the showroom. They try to push it as a performance car and it's not and it's not a great luxury car either. It's just middle ground like most Infiniti cars. BUT this car will be a great buy second hand when the prices fall but not worth 65k at all.
You can get it for $52k and it comes with everything you'll ever need. You can option a BMW 320i for like 40k+, doesn't mean it's a 40k worthy car.
Rob Ctrc for 30k id rather have e92 m3 or c63 or idk there are too many used cars that are much better driving more reliable better built and faster.
Good luck finding a well kept e92 m3 for 30k, that's after 2010. Not to mention those cars need their own bank accounts for regular maintenance cause they have so much major issues after the 40-50k mile mark. And i'm confused that you used m3/c63 in the same sentence as reliable lol.
And that's the problem. $65k gets you what with other manufacturers? Whynot an M2 instead? or a Stingray? or a GT350? or a ZL1 Camaro? or a used Cayman S? If you're really going to spend that much, then you may as well get what you really want for a sports vehicle rather than something that's kinda/sorta/maybe halfway there. What's sad is that this car is barely faster than an older 370z with an exhaust and a tune, which anyone can go get for around $15-17k if you really want to stay with a Nissan, so then why go through the exercise of depreciation and high car payments? The real issue is Nissan is going to kill off the Z because they think they can make the margin with the Q60, and the reality is that people with either hold on to the old Z, or go to a different brand completely, or wait for this thing to depreciate like a Mercedes after 36-48 months.
Toyota4Life well the RC-F didn’t exactly blow the doors off either even that car was half baked mixing a GS, IS-C and IS platform. Japan Inc unfortunately seems to be sleeping on attention to detail lately.
Jack is so much better then Turbowski. Good lord. He was annoying in retrospect.
Agreed, these "quick reviews" are much much better than other people's "quick" reviews...I lover how you show folks that just because the wrapper is all fancy and shiny, that things below that wrapper may not be up to the image the wrapper is trying to convey...Nissan is losing their way and has found ingenious ways to fool their customer base...I understand the end goal is to make a profit, but all of the corner cutting/cost saving measures make a great car not worth driving...but who am I to judge as I own a CX-5, which is nothing but a car of compromises to keep the price in check...
100K CONGRATS
Nissan ain't what they used to be
Exactly: They decided about 10 years ago that they want to be a volume seller, and if you want "the best" they have, then you have to over pay and compromise with the whole "infinity" garbage with tech that's not needed. They are attempting further product differentiation by getting rid of the 370z and hoping that people go with a Q60 if they want to stay with Nissan, however, they'll find after they fire their completely worthless marketing turds, that those in the market for a sports car will simply look to other brands, and that's really the overall trend among most car makers. All the new cars "look sporty" just like all the hipsters have beards or tats but cannot change a tire or fight. All show/no go, or if you want some go, then it's overpriced and you may as well go to a different brand completely. There's simply nolonger a value unless you pick one of these up used without the retarded adaptive "packages" the mouth breathing dealerships insist on ordering so they can just GOUGE the new car buyers with. Thats the other issue: You go to a dealer, yeah, try finding one in stock with the color and only the necessities. Good luck!
They were on the verge of bankruptcy, they had to cut corners everywhere to return to profitability. For some reason people still buy them.
opl500 yup. I was a long time fan. Owned a G37x and I now own a Nissan 370Z. They threw everything away - over engineered!! Why didn’t they just pop this engine into the new design and keep the old steering? Tons of Nissan guys I know have moved on because of this steering - most were willing to overlook the older tranny.
The wire steering is a option Normal or Wire steering.
jnagime drive by wire (DAS) and electronic assist steering but no hydraulic steering a la G37/370z as far as I’ve seen/heard
It's cool and all but that stupid steering system is a deal breaker for me and the interior looks just stupid with those two ugly, outdated screens. No thanks! I'd rather have a Kia Stinger.
Everyone will be driving those soon lol
It is Direct Adaptive Steering. Aside from the complaints, this is a great luxury sport coupe. It does not have the most updated technology but it sure does its job for someone who wants a simple interior layout. I personally do not need all that additional tech like carplay, cooled seats etc. I love the design that Infiniti currents provides. I do wish the 7AT was more responsive but it is a rather reliable trans. The VR motor is also very reliable and has been recognized for that. With the Q Inspiration being released and the winner of 'Best Concept Vehicle' and awarded 'Best Designed Interior' at 2018 NAIAS by EyesOn Design - it is very exciting for Infiniti buyers. The future of Infiniti looks very bright and rewarding.
Great review, especially like the first part in the shop. I'm on my 3rd infiniti, q50s, and I totally agree about the infotainment- horrible, outdated and not intuitive. The fact that I can't change the gps screen to say clock, or at least turn it off without turning the second screen off or manually rewriting the programming script is very frustrating. The rest, minus the transmission, is a big improvement over the g models