"This is my son Bart - he owns a factory down-town" I feel like the entire Bart factory subplot was written solely so they could deliver this line and it's perfect.
"Let me introduce you to my family. My PERFECT family" Homer was using that emphasis to try and impress Frank, yet Frank took it as Homer being condescending to him.
@@pythonfan1 You’re what’s wrong with America pythonfan1 you coast through life and do as little as possible You’re fraud pythonfan1 It was nice to meet you.
Funny how Grimes snaps when Homer showed his Grammy, the one thing Homer got through effort and talent, and not the end result of a wacky situation like the photos.
The best part of the scene to me is Grimey saying it was nice meeting you after the rant. The commitment to pleasantries and politeness after all that it’s hilarious.
@@matteobeach4261 "Gah! I had to work hard everyday of my life, and what do I have to show for it? This briefcase and this haircut! And what do you have for your lifetime of sloth and ignorance?"
@@matteobeach4261 " W-- Everything! A dream house! Two cars! A beautiful wife! A son who owns a factory! Fancy clothes and *sniff sniff* lobsters for dinner! And do you deserve any of it? No!"
Not much of a Simpsons fan, but I will admit that this scene is one of the BEST portrayls of the Innocently Insensitive (Homer)/Green Eyed Jealously (Frank) I have ever saw. This scene alone should have won a Emmy Award. So powerful despite being funny.
@@taurtue I am huge fan of the facial art styles used on Frank Grimes, Dolph and various teenage guest characters on "The Simpsons". They are one of the most beautiful looking art styles EVER next to the facial art styles that "American Dad", "Future Rama", "Young Justice", "Code Lyoko", "Voltron", "Danny Phantom", "Disney's Treasure Planet" & "Japanimation" all use on their young characters. They are a huge part of my life. I am just not a die-hard Simpsons fan and not into 'Simpsons' as a whole. Alot of episodes offended me and even outright infuriated me (e.g. any moment involving either Adult Audience Laughter, Audience Cheering, Rare Canned Laughter, Jokes mocking the essential Christian doctrines or all 4 of them at once). I only watch Simpsons anytime Dolph or a young teenage character (except Jimbo and Kearney) is on screen and also for the jokes that DO make me laugh (e.g. Homer shouting "DAMN!" in church service after realizing he put in $20 in the offering, Steamed Hams Memes).
The saddest part here is no individual is really at fault here. Homer wasn't a leech, he was just a friendly guy. And Frank venting on him is perfectly reasonable too since Frank worked way harder than Homer did.
If grimes or grimy as I like to call him wasn't so stuck in his mindset of working hard to achieve people would help him out more. Can't succeed and you can't be happy without friends. Homer tried so hard to be his friend. It's sad to see when a person turns bitter. Even though I understand him it could only get better if he opened his heart for the world.
People are like Frank Grimes who is a narcissist and are jealous of people who are doing well in life. Because they are bullshit because they didn't understand that life is not fair and bitter of other people doing good in life but wouldn't be jealous of other people doing well in life People are like Frank Grimes who think they people shouldn't better than him or her in life but he should do better than that person in life but don't understand that that person also works hard than him too but he doesn't see it. Homer had nothing in the beginning but work hard to get it
"You're what's wrong with America: you coast through life, you do as little as possible and you leach off decent hard-working people like ME. If you lived in any other country, you'd have starved to death long ago."
Facts. Homer was trying to make a attempt to show Frank Grimes that he is not really a bad person at all such as trying to get back on friendly terms with Frank but unfortunately it backfired horribly due to his jealousy and resentment. In Homer's defense the reason he has a happy and bright life due to his personality. Despite his dim-witted, incompetence, and laziness he can be a kind and sweet person with a big heart. Frank Grimes had a grumpy, snappy, and grouchy personality. For example- Homer, Lenny, and Carl we're being friendly such as introducing themselves towards him on his first day at the Chemical Plant but Grimes was very dismissive. The point I'm making is that you have a good or bad life based on your personality.
@@carlycrays2831 Facts. Homer was trying to make a attempt to show Frank Grimes that he is not really a bad person at all such as trying to get back on friendly terms with Frank but unfortunately it backfired horribly due to his jealousy and resentment. In Homer's defense the reason he has a happy and bright life due to his personality. Despite his dim-witted, incompetence, and laziness he can be a kind and sweet person with a big heart. Frank Grimes had a grumpy, snappy, and grouchy personality. For example- Homer, Lenny, and Carl we're being friendly such as introducing themselves towards him on his first day at the Chemical Plant but Grimes was very dismissive. The point I'm making is that you have a good or bad life based on your personality.
@@connorkling2952 Facts. Homer was trying to make a attempt to show Frank Grimes that he is not really a bad person at all such as trying to get back on friendly terms with Frank but unfortunately it backfired horribly due to his jealousy and resentment. In Homer's defense the reason he has a happy and bright life due to his personality. Despite his dim-witted, incompetence, and laziness he can be a kind and sweet person with a big heart. Frank Grimes had a grumpy, snappy, and grouchy personality. For example- Homer, Lenny, and Carl we're being friendly such as introducing themselves towards him on his first day at the Chemical Plant but he was very dismissive. The point I'm making is that you have a good or bad life based on your personality.
Despite Frank's hatred for Homer, he doesn't know the sacrifices he made for Marge and his kids. Before Bart was born, he had to leave Marge because her sisters hated him. He took a crappy fast food restaurant and gave her every dollar. And when Lisa was a kid, Homer sacrifice his money to buy her a saxophone so she will grow up smart. And before Maggie was born, he had a dream job working at a bowling alley but had to quit and return to the power plant so he can support her.
@@mmtot I mean, Homer does create a lot of the trouble he encounters in his life, but he's generally a nice person who tries to do right by his family. It's also not entirely his fault that the writers for the show continued to make him even worse and more irresponsible as seasons went on. He's stupid and impulsive, not cruel or inherently selfish. For all his faults, he is the singular breadwinner of his family that does involve himself with his children and spends a lot of time with his wife.
@@Can_O_Crayola He was cruel. Towards Flanders. What people don't remember was that how Frank Grimes acted towards Homer, that's pretty much how he acted towards Flanders. But he gave that up when he saw Flanders reach his rock bottom - it gave Homer no pleasure to see that, even though he thought it would. He's still at odds with Flanders but not as much as he used to. Homer got over it. Frankie here... couldn't get over it. He represents the worst of what Homer used to be. Now Homer just loves life, while Frank resented every second of his remaining time on Earth.
1:01 Dans sweetness and genuine attempt at small talk on the line "You've Never Been?" Makes me laugh so hard, while making Homer so likeable in this scene cuz he's really trying to be a good host
When Frank just stops and takes a look around their house before saying, "Good heavens, this is a palace!" It's some of the most genuine emotion I've ever heard in voice acting.
People seem to forget that at one point Homer was in Grime’s shoes. Flanders was originally Homer’s enemy as he had a nice family and lived in luxury while Homer had the complete opposite. Inevitably Homer comes to realize that even when he triumphs over Flanders it doesn’t make him feel better about himself, I feel like the same could’ve happened with Grimes had he lived. But other than that, Frank Grimes is basically someone from our world being put in the environment that is Springfield. While some would like to be friends with Homer it’s possible that most others would grow to resent him. While Grime’s anger is albeit limited to Homer’s material wealth, it’s still very understandable as most people would expect their hard work to be rewarded instead of having someone be rewarded for practically doing nothing at all.
This is missing the point. For one, Flanders, as far as I know, did earn his material wealth. But, furthermore, Grimes's gripe here isn't purely materialistic, unless you count a "perfect family" as materialistic. He doesn't resent that he had to work hard his whole life. He states outright what his problem is: Homer is a fraud. Society has showered him rewards for nothing while ppl like Grimes barely eek out an existence keeping the country running. If this country actually had proper values and had it's priorities in order, Homer would have starved to death long ago. Does that mean Homer hasn't worked hard? Of course not. But he has objectively coasted thru much of his life as well and in return, he has been granted outrageously disproportionate reward, whereas Grimes has been living the life of basically a slave with no future prospects of it ever easing up. Not wanting to work till you're dead is far from "materialistic" and when you add on the sight of Homer Simpson, after a lifetime of unparalleled hardship and adversity: any reasonable would snap.
I love how Frank Grimes complains about living in an apartment between two bowling alleys while Homer, who loves bowling would love to have a place like that.
I love Homer’s: “wooow” It really shows that he sees the best of every situation. He’d be happy to live near a bowling alley, despite it being a small apartment.
No need to defend anybody. Grimes is a spiteful and envious character and no matter how much u may feel sorry for him, the fact remains that Frank's jealousy is what caused his life to end
There is also nothing to defend because it’s true Homer has all those things happen to him because he got lucky He earned none of it It’s like if you won an art trophy even though you didn’t even apply for the competition If that happened to someone I knew, I wouldn’t defend or laud them either
I think Grimes is wrong about something though Homer isn’t able to live his lifestyle because he’s American. He’s able to live this lifestyle because he got lucky Anyone trying to live like Homer would die in America too unless they got lucky Also, it depends on what episode you’re watching, the episodes where Grimes isn’t in do have Homer face the consequences and do have him get called out on his stupidity and do have him be down on his luck Hell, Burns usually plays the role Grimes plays in this episode This episode also shows that the plot changes depending on who is writing the episode
Frank has three things to show of his life; a TV tribute, a room between two bowling alleys and 'THIS HAIRCUT!!!'. Ironically, Homer would likely kill for any of them. :P
Daaamn. This is like the deepest comment on here. We may think we have it worse in comparison to others, but in many ways we probably have many things other people would want. That's trippy, dude...
There are two girls on my recent life: my master student (and best friend) who comes from a poor family and they're having economical problems because the crazy virus... and a girl I was dating who's from a family with money, got an easy life, had her own house, car and economical freedom... but her mother died some years ago. I bet the second one would be changing everything she have with my best friend if this would be translated as getting her mother back.
I read somewhere that the Frank Grimes character represents all of us working people. They wanted to show what it wold be like if a regular person lived in the Simpsons world. That's why compared to Homer, even Lenny and Carl, Frank didn't talk much nonsense, he spoke like someone we'd meet on a regular basis. Clearly, a person in the real world would go crazy in the Simpsons world.
+All the Usernames were taken So, yeah I'm sure the character of Frank Grimes was influenced on Bill Foster (D-Fens) in the movie Falling Down with Michael Douglas (AWESOME MOVIE) I recommend it but that is also rather sad.
Actually, this episode exaggerated a lot, and as miserable Frank Grimes was, he didn't have to be a jackass to Homer (his stupidity was upped a notch, but he was still nice).
@@aeroga2383 Season 4. Lisa's First Word. Grandpa Simpson sells his house and gives the money to Homer to be able to afford a home for his family. Homer is overcome by the gesture and asks his dad to come and live with in the new home. That arrangement lasted 'a couple of weeks'.
Frank had every reason to be bitter about the hilariously poor hand life dealt to him but who he chose to direct all that anger towards was sorely misplaced
Right? Like, I’ll never be able to own a house in this economy, but that’s nobody’s fault. It’s certainly not the fault of anyone who does own a house.
i dont think it was missplaced at all homer is a prime example of liife isnt fair hes useless and reaps all the rewaords he nearly kjillds everyone daily
I love this part of the episode. Grimes envies all the things Homer has, yet he has things that Homer would like to have, such as hair and living between bowling alleys. It really is just a matter of perspective
Just an wonderfully written point that most people can never be satisfied in their lives and worlds and always want something more or what someone else has.
Tell me, what kind of person would prefer living in some shabby apartment between two loud bowling alleys and hair, versus having a nice house with a wife and children that have high IQ and own entire factories?
@@iSyriux probably Homer lol. He loves his family, yeah, but remember that he dearly misses his hair and the sound of bowling is like music to him. He’d probably be happy in either situation to be honest.
In my opinion the Frank Grimes line of " I live in a small apartment above a bowling alley...and below another bowling alley" Is one of the funniest simpsons lines. You really get a feel for how grim ol Grimeys life is and how unhappy and unlucky he is despite all his hard work.
Homer actually said to Marge that he didn't think Frank would come if he told him it was for dinner so he lied to him that he had something really important to tell him.....
By cartoon logic, he was the one that started all the problem for the astronauts. Also he saved them by pure accident (not willingly) to the point that if they didnt restrain him of redoing what he did, they surely would have died.
The funniest thing is when Homer says "wow.' Like through all that he's just impressed by the fact that he lives between two bowling alleys and would probably switch homes with Grimes if he could.
Watching this clip again makes me feel sorry for Homer. Everything he did was his attempt to "put his best foot forward" so that Grimes would like him, but Grimes took everything the wrong way.
“You coast through life.” Homer’s mom left him to escape from the law for good reasons while he lived with his toxic father who drinks and complains. “You do little as possible.” He did so much - He wanted to become a bowling worker until his kids are born. He thinks too hard about what to remember and wants to do the right things for his kids and wife. “And you leech off decent, hard-working people.” Though that is true about society, there are times when Homer truly worked hard. When Lisa wanted a pony, he had to work full hours at Apu’s store. When he can’t make a robot for Bart, he disguised himself to play along. When Marge wanted a ring, he tried to do everything to buy it. Funny that both Homer and Grimes are on the similar account of “Living off a difficult life”. but each has their own bias on the other. Homer praises Grimes because he sees him as someone higher because he’s smart and neat, and normal. Plus he lives between two bowling alleys. Grimes, however, looked down on Homer and envies his lifestyle as if Homer got it easy.
Proof that perspective is EVERYTHING. Grimes has no way of knowing what Homer's been through, only what he himself has been through. As far as we know, Homer never saw that Grimes documentary in the beginning, so Homer has no way of know what Grimes has been through, only what he himself has been through. As such, it affects how they view each other.
to be honest homer did coast through life he got his job just because he showed up the day the plant opened his father abe while yes he wasn't the best father actually helped buy the house that homer lives under and he does try to do as little as possible at home and at work he is barely around for his family since he usually spends a day out of the month with them and he is a damn leech cause while he is just snoozing around and letting everything go to shit in the plant people are actually working
Even Homers position in the job where he does absolutely nothing was not given to him for free. He used to be lowly worker at the power plant where he was hired along with many other highschool graduates when Burns was building it. Once it was shown that Burns is trashing nuclear waste into illegal places Homer and Lisa made large campaign against Burns. Burns then gave Homer his current high position as a bribe to stop that campaign. He was risking his future to fight his boss to get that job, which was a huge gamble for him and his family, so to say that he was just given this position for free is downright false.
@@Sean-Johnson yeh but Homer is far more likeable than grimes. Grimes wouldn’t ever get promoted no matter how hard he works, as he has no people skills.
It’s not that simple. Frank wouldn’t get hired for a middle management position because the person over him would be afraid of losing their job. If you put a “Homer” in that same position you might have a to help him along but you know your job is secure
@@jaychung1380 I think maybe that's why people weren't too happy with Grimes. Sure, the dude had a really shit life and didn't have anything to show for his hard work, but the way he pins all that resentment towards Homer feels like the in-between of being justified and not. On one hand, Homer's laziness and absurd luck could be a source of contempt for anyone trying their hardest to make a living, but on the other hand, we often see a side of Homer where he cares about his family and friends and does kinda strive to do right, a side that Grimes unfortunately doesn't see.
Frank Grimes is a hero. He saved Homer's life and his reward for that act of kindness was being driven to suicide by the person that he saved. How in the hell could you hate Frank Grimes?
@@jamieSp69 Didn't Homer try to take Grime's criticism to heart and Grimes, unable to believe that Homer could be a honest worker, tries to sabotage and humiliate him by tricking him into joining a kid's competition? I don't know, everything after the attempted dinner feels like it was Grimes' fault for letting his resentment of Homer get the best of him.
@@ajgameguy3674 He screwed Grimes over too badly to come back from it. Homer got Grimes a pay reduction, and on the bad side of the boss because Grimes was a good enough person to save his life. Homer could had explained to Mr. Burns what happened with the wall at any time, but he didn't want to get into trouble with Burns, so he threw Grimes under the bus. I would have said "Fuck Homer" too after some shit like that.
Homer: The American Dream, beautiful family , loving wife, 2 cars, large home. Frank: basically the real hardworking American, overwhelmed with debt, 9-5 daily grind, no wealth, worried about bills
Homer may not be the smartest person, but he has a big heart, he loves his wife and his kids and that is why he has a nice wife, a somewhat nice job, and wonderful kids( even Bart sometimes lol)
*You can't even blame Frank, he tries his hardest, only to live in a one bedroom flat, while Homer who doesn't try is more successful. This is literally an analogy of how life works.*
@@laraselters9185 I mean, Lisa is practically a child prodigy and genius with a college level intellect in the second grade that everyone knows about. It's good that Bart gets his time to shine other than troublemaking. I don't think they were trying to outshine Lisa.
@@laraselters9185 Unfairly? Lisa is a pretentious, know-it-all twit, and it's always cathartic to see Bart one-up her. And before anyone calls me a misogynist, most of the female characters I watch are ones like Punky Brewster, Mona Parker, Hilda, Luz Noceda, Maggie Pesky and the like, who I'd argue are closer to Bart than Lisa in terms of character. I'm all about them plucky tomboy types who just like to be themselves and do their own thing.
The joke behind that line was that while Bart DID own a factory, it was rundown, non-functioning, and collapsed near the end of the episode. All Bart used it for was as a giant playhouse.
Frank Grimes is a wordplay synonymous to truth and ruin. Frank really was frank with Homer. Frank Grimes is what Ned Flanders could been if he wasn’t faithful, happy and successful.
Not the real world but a post modern critique on Homer Simpson's character. At the end of the day, all Homer really does is abide with his time in life, where as Grimes is too materialistic to notice what can really make him happy. He's a godless man and his only desire in life is to be successful in spite of his cynical attitude towards society and most importantly, himself.
Frank Grimes Jr completely shat on this entire character by saying he wasted the money he burnt himself out on for hookers, while the whole point of Frank is that he’s the idyllic American hardworking honest man in the dishonest world of Springfield. I swear it’s like after season 8 the show turned into modern Family Guy
I get your point, but just think about this as follows: Grimes never got happiness, so it's implicit that not a single woman looked at him as a suitable partner. Many men go to hookers not fot sex, but searching company because they feel alone. I remember some confesions made by hookers on Reddit (maybe, I saw those on CZcams videos) and many were about men hiring them not for sex, but talking, many being recurrent clients. Also, I have a friend who dates older men, she said me about a man who was married, but always searching that "spark" he lost with his wife, so they dated, but also get involved in long conversations. This also happens to women, my sister lost his husband the same year her ex husband died (she technically became widow two times in less than 12 months), she's still trying to get a relationship because she feel a vacuum on her life. Grimes dying without knowing he got a son, a motivation for keeping his sanity makes his character even more tragic... but I just watched Grimes Jr's episode one time, I don't remember the details, but I guess Grimes never knew about him.
@@MrlspPrt But here's a question you should ask yourself, what hooker names their child after a guy they banged once as part of their job with a client they barely know? Also Frank doesn't seem like the type to hang around with prostitutes so his son could’ve just said that his mother and father use to date. That would’ve been a more legit answer than some random hooker.
I really felt sorry for the character Frank Grimes in this episode, his life is like a Greek tragedy where a man is cursed by the gods to suffer hardship and humiliation, doomed to failure no matter what he does. Like Sisyphus, where no matter how many times he pushes a boulder up a steep mountain in the underworld, at the top he weakens from exhaustion and the boulder rolls back down to the bottom again, for all eternity!
@@edwardgaines6561 nothing, he believes in a system that will not help him. Hard work doesn’t get anything. Luck, connections, and deceit benefit you in the system.
What Frank didn't get is that Homer, despite being more towards the lazy side, has a heart of gold, a good sense of humour, a knack for making friends, and a positive attitude. He probably never went out to party with friends, and his personality intimidated people into not wanting to be his friend.
+Neon Pegasus yeah that's the one side no one discusses, it's obvious that frank has let his denial of success make him bitter and confrontational, i mean it makes sense, he knows Homer doesn't work as hard or is as smart as him and yet he gets rewarded/tolerated whereas Grimes gets hits hard, but that's life.
+Mckenzie .Latham There's also the fact that despite these achievements, Homer is often fairly luckless. He neglected to inform him of the times he got stuck inside a water chute in a theme park, fell down a gorge (twice) and has risked losing his mansion and his loving family over and over again. His wondrous space mission was a disaster that ended up with him ignored in favour of a nuclear carbon rod while touring with the Smashing Pumpkins got him permanent injuries in a stunt (with his fickle kids being embarrassed by him just because he didn't risk killing himself). He gets the negatives as much as the positives, just both are concentrated to their extreme.
Oh my gosh! Are U serious?!? First of allLook at frank grimes background in this episode He had been ditched by his parents He moved thing by HIMSELF (certainly not easy) He is a hardworking person who deserves to be in a better position from his outpout in work And look at homer He had a crayon stuck in brain in one of the episodes Homer ditched his OWN DAUGHTER just so he can have friends(realise how many people you can be friends with besides drunks like barney gamble) Homer has NO SENSE of humour! You tend to like him because of the way he annoys people... Which is just a bad habit to have in like
Homer has NO SENSEbof humour AT ALL He tends to annoy people thats why you like him Look at ned flanders! Ned is like the nicest person but you may not like him due to his personality Homer tends to annoy a nice person Frank grimes got a degree in physics whereas homer was let off from a speech with mr.burns (Lucky) Frank grimes is a hard-worker who derseves more than homeer especially after frank got ditched by his OWN PARENTS!
I think it says a lot that rather than revising his initial opinion of Homer as a dumb lazy oaf upon learning he has a lovely home, perfect family, is friends with a former president, has been on tour with a rock band, went to space, and is a Grammy winning artist- Frank is just more angry, indignant and jealous. Rather than admiring Homer and considering he might have something to learn from him, Frank just blames the world that Homer has everything and he has nothing.
franks whole character trope is that he believes in hard work. ever since he was literally abandoned on the roadside as a child, he had worked hard, and despite his efforts the universe kept shitting on him, which only then made him try even harder. and in the end he has nothing to show for his wasted years and endless effort. meanwhile everything just lands into homers lap from the sky like hes some modern day biblical figure favored by god. I would be bitter as hell too ngl.
I like how even though Frank hates homer homer just wants to be friends with him. I kinda miss that version of homer because now he is just Jerkass homer.
This episode really upset a lot of people and continues to. The real reason is that most people in America "think" they are like Frank Grimes, but deep down they are afraid that they are really like Homer Simpson. The subtle truth makes people uncomfortable.
Sausages, I agree. Compared to Peter Griffin, who I'm pretty sure deep down hates his family like the other Griffins do, the Simpsons seem to actually love each other. Sure Homer chokes Bart, but that's become so iconic that it's accepted by us. Plus, Bart always does something to deserve it, unlike Meg who never does, and mistreated by everyone
The core truth of life is that some people get handed everything on a silver platter through absolutely no doing of their own, through sheer luck and/or inheritance and are blind to this fact, while others can struggle their entire life and never have to show anything for it, through no fault of their own.
But Homer does work hard. Or at least relative to how lazy he is... He hates working at the plant, but he does it to provide for his wife and children. And Homer does come from a broken home, his father was occasionally abusive, he had trouble in school, and no one really supported him until Marge came along.
Lol, homer isnt a nerd who spends all day behind screens being armchair thinker. If he struggles he works hard. He doesnt blame society or americca. Unlike most Americans who spent time behind their screens.
@@blackboxbs8642 "He works hard"... Have you ever watched the show? He constantly cuts corners, does everything half-assed and is proud of it and everything falls into his lap. The only reason why his life is good because it's a cartoon. Normally, his life would be a nightmare if The Simpsons operated on real life logic.
85% of millionaires come from nothing. So hard work usually does pay off. Don’t let life get ya down. Kill or be killed (not actually but you get the point)
People misunderstand that Grimes is a reflection of the other half of America - the hard workers that life isn't fair to, and that point of fairness that he's so focused on drives him to anpoint of insanity and death. Homer is the half who is content to let the world do its thing while he's enjoying himself, just coasting along and well, being lucky. Luck is a huge part of life and Grimes doesn't understand it which drives his bitterness into insanity.
I love it then Grimey is impressed of Homer’s house, family, clothes, food, cars and yet Homer is impressed that he lives between two bowling alleys 😂😂😂
There's a lot to dislike about Homer BUT his attitude of seeing the best of a situation counts for a lot. When Grimes is bitter about living in-between two bowling alleys, Homer sees that as a plus. Now, obviously the reality of hearing balls knocking over pins 24/7 must be maddening but Homer is different to Grimes because he doesn't let it get him down.
You don't see how it might be frustrating for someone living in a gorgeous house to be like "wow, you are so lucky!" because they don't realize how bad living between two bowling allies would be? Its like someone living in a gated community telling someone living in a shithole apartment how envious they are of the poor person because they get to live in such a bohemian atmosphere. Homer lets adversity get him down all the time. The difference between Grimes and Homer isn't that Homer is accepting of his fate with a smile. Its that Grimes tries to make his situation better by working hard and playing by the rules, and Homer tries to make his situation better with mad cap cartoon schemes. And because Homer is in fact a cartoon character in a sitcom, it works out ok for him.
Frank spending 2 minutes in Homer's house as a guest is like viewing someone's Facebook. Things get prepared to impress others and hide the shitty elements.
@@joere-uploader5766 Wow mate are you really that dense that you completely miss the point. Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok , Tumblr and Twitter are all cancer!! And yes there are more platforms that are pretty much the same.
@@joere-uploader5766 If anything your reply supports what I said. People adding "friends" as commodities who will not interact with their page = cancer. Plus women have to be careful who they add or men will jerk off over their photographs. More cancer. And then there is all the targeted advertising and fake news via Russia and god knows what else (the latter point is the most crucial)
This is the turning point for when Frank loses sympathy. He was invited to dinner and instead of just accepting friendship he allowed himself to be consumed with envy and spite.
Frank doesn't realise he's being invited over for dinner, all he was told was that homer urgently needed to talk to him which was why he came over. Although Homer may not have meant to do all of those things to Frank, from Franks perspective it just seemed as if homer was rubbing salt on the wound and being condescending by showing off his 'perfect' family.
Honestly, although Homer is an idiot, he has one thing that so many rich people have that people like Grime overlook, people skills. No matter what happens on the show homer is still likable by everyone and he knows how to work the crowd.
Those aren't people aren't like Frank Grimes. Frank Grimes got to where he is by working hard and befriending those who could help him, but Homer was such an insufferable jackass with more success than any normal person would have in a lifetime, including Frank himself despite all the work he put into his life, that it drove him crazy.
Terry I yeah I can think of a couple, the physically ugly, hyper self-conscious try-hards that are destined to show their worth by acting like they know everything. And when they think no one is looking, you can tell they truly feel terrible and hate themselves
Now I’m scared I’m my classrooms Frank Grimes I do a media production course at College and I appear to be the only one who actually gives a shit and works without complaining and to good standard then I badmouth the lazy people when I get home
I always despised Frank’s bitterness and jealousy. He hates Homer because Homer has what he wants, not what he needs. Homer needed a larger house for his growing family. He stays devoted to Marge and deeply loves his kids, especially Lisa and Maggie. He has his faults, but Homer’s got a good heart and keeps things simple, instead of desperacy to reach the top like Grimes. Homer isn’t exactly happy with his life, but he’s content, and provides for his family. I respect people like that.
Yeah, I wish Homer wouldn’t have to be this too oblivious. (the writers probably should’ve known this and then it doesn’t need to make it worse, at least) Grimes really needs to control himself, understands and be content of any of this but we all know what happens next
He hates homer because he's an idiot and doesn't deserve anything he's got lol. He's right when he says he's leeching off hard working people. Homer does nothing all day.
What's sad about this exchange/episode is Frank Grimes never knew that Homer is no different than him. Homer is insanely jealous and resentful of Ned Flanders because he has a better lifestyle than his. Though I agreed with everything Grimes has said, he lost me at the "decent, hardworking" part. Hardworking, yes. Decent, far from it. You can't go through life with a bitter and resentful attitude. This is definitely one of the most realistic and definitely darkest episodes.
It's not indecent to be human. Frank's gone through a hard, unrewarding life, yet he still chugs on, doing his menial job and paying his taxes. You know, until he goes insane. It''d be difficult not to be embittered, especially when the person who represents the antithesis of everything you stand for works right next to you.
Frank only got bitter after Homer kept harrassing him and distracting him during work. You are biased against Grimes because this is a cartoon and you like Homer too much. In real life, I doubt you would tolerate Homer's behaviour.
Homer doesn’t need to work the same way everyone else does, cause he takes initiative and is an overall likable guy, that’s what causes him to get ahead in life, he isn’t picky about things and is always down for something fun
I personally would find his loud demeanour and outright oafishness too much, but that's just me. I would still be nice to him and say hello in passing, and live it at that.
Imagine hating on someone who has recognised the flaws in the working system and is capable of making a living off it, people like you are just jealous because you werent smart enough to see the potential in streaming as an income yet
@@SemperFi777 indeed, i have no pity for those who hate to see others suceed for the sole reason that they are not currently as succesful, you try to make it out as if people who arent streaming are being wronged in some way
@@vin8754 I think it comes more as a fact that while one is busting his ass off to make a living, another one sits on his ass to play videogames and get paid for it. Streaming is NOT work. It's a hobby. People get money because of donations, not as a result of his work. And if you have a family to feed, you can't do 24 hour livestreams. As you have obligations and demands in your adult life.
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"This is my son Bart - he owns a factory down-town"
I feel like the entire Bart factory subplot was written solely so they could deliver this line and it's perfect.
This episode was written by former Simpsons writer and consultant John Swartzwelder, and he wrote the most episodes out of any writer on the show
Rats abandon the factory and go to Moe's
Moe says calmly: Alright everyone, tuck your pants into your socks
The “this is a picture of me in outer space” and “you’ve never been?” Is equally perfect.
Nope. It was so Milhouse could say 'well this is my life"
@@marcodiaz6322 who told you about John Swartwelder? you need to be careful who you share this information with
I like how Grimes is impressed with homer's house, and Homer is impressed with Grimes living between 2 bowling allies
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Homer being an avid bowler, he was probably legit impressed grimesy had a choice between two bowling alleys so close to his apartment.
Wasn't it his original dream job before working at the nuclear plant?
I'm sure that alone made Homer a little envious over Frank.
@@pierrebegley2746 The grass is always greener, I think the lesson here is
Homer’s dream job was working in a bowling alley.
If a Grammy award-winning astronaut invited me to a lobster dinner, I wouldn't be so rude.
Seriously, Frank had a chance at a nice lobster dinner and he ruined it. Marge would have fixed him up a plate with extra servings.
Tbh, he is someone to keep tabs on
Sheesh man I can't even remember the last time I had lobster.
I don't even think I can eat lobster but I'd come anyway
Buzz (who was with Homer): All Frank needs is the rocket experience! All he needs is the rocket experience!
Homer: "My daughter Lisa, IQ 156."
Lisa: "Hi."
Homer: "See."
Writers WERE genius
The whole Simpsons line are actually geniuses including Homer. Its just that Homer has a crayon stuck in his brain.
@@ShadowMoon878 lmfao
I’m like number 392 and I do NOT regret it. The comment you made is awesome snd I like it. Keep up the good work.
High!
He was decent enough to address to his family that he was only angry at Homer.
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Me watching Simpsons as a kid: haha, their house is such a dump.
Me watching the Simpsons in my late 20s: whoa, you own a house?
Same. Modern murica.
Lies again? Harvard Barcelona Orlando
Haha, I thought their house was a dump as well😆
Oh wow, windows! I don’t think I can afford this place.
Remember kids, if you don't own a house it's because you eat too much advacato toast! mo hu ha ha!
"Let me introduce you to my family. My PERFECT family"
Homer was using that emphasis to try and impress Frank, yet Frank took it as Homer being condescending to him.
That's because, needless to say, Frank is smarter than Homer.
@@pythonfan1 You’re what’s wrong with America pythonfan1 you coast through life and do as little as possible
You’re fraud pythonfan1
It was nice to meet you.
As is see this now as not a kid..poor frank his bitterness n resentment cost him Homer who only wanted to be his friend.
I feel like Homer calling his family 'perfect' isn't necessarily him trying to impress but him being nice and genuine about the family he loves
@@ASR-Ansori same thought here. He wasnt bragging just showing how much he loved them
In a nutshell: a middle class man in the 80s vs a middle class man in the current year
This episode wasn't made that long after the 80s. It seems more like Frank grimes is from depression era america (30s - 40s)
What middle class in the current year?
@@SukatoKjolen Somewhere around 2010 or so.
@@DarkZerolthe joke is the middle class has been eroded, there is only capital owners and the workers.
He`s calling out GenX. He`s not wrong and Im GenX.
Funny how Grimes snaps when Homer showed his Grammy, the one thing Homer got through effort and talent, and not the end result of a wacky situation like the photos.
When did Homer win a Grammy? I don't remember that episode.
DaveOJ the B-Sharps episode
@@jamesgriffin7962 Technically, he won it before the events of the series but that episode is when we learn that.
@@jamesgriffin7962 Thanks.
Homer saved his spacecraft but got no credit for it-Grimes could have related to that.
Grimes: “I-I live in a single room above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley.”
Homer: “Wooooow!”
I've always loved that bowling alley line.
@@Darkstar263 well Homer loves bowling alleys it is his dream job after all but it wouldnt pay enough for his family go support itself
@@reservoir4798 Wasn't there an episode about this exact thing? Homer lived his best life at that bowling alley.
@@joeysingingchannel yeah there was
Sounds like a dream tbh
The best part of the scene to me is Grimey saying it was nice meeting you after the rant. The commitment to pleasantries and politeness after all that it’s hilarious.
Any normal person would do that, as Grimes wasn't ranting at the entire family, just Homer.
Grimes is probably Canadian
No need to be a jerkass to people he’s just met after all.
He may be mad and venting on you but he still needs to be polite manners must be observed especially in the 1990s.
@@timburr4453 Gonna vote for Trump, hey why not. He's as dumb as you, but he gets the money, you don't.
0:42 "I don't know. Don't ask me how the economy works."
Man, that is so relatable.
"You!??, went into outer space, you?"
"Suuuure, you've never been?" LOL
Wanna see my Grammy award?
AHTepsilon no, I wouldn’t
@@matteobeach4261 "Gah! I had to work hard everyday of my life, and what do I have to show for it? This briefcase and this haircut! And what do you have for your lifetime of sloth and ignorance?"
Bob L-B what?
@@matteobeach4261 " W-- Everything! A dream house! Two cars! A beautiful wife! A son who owns a factory! Fancy clothes and *sniff sniff* lobsters for dinner! And do you deserve any of it? No!"
The best part about this episode is Homer doesn't even try to screw over Frank, he's just himself and doesn't even mean to make him mad.
Not much of a Simpsons fan, but I will admit that this scene is one of the BEST portrayls of the Innocently Insensitive (Homer)/Green Eyed Jealously (Frank) I have ever saw. This scene alone should have won a Emmy Award. So powerful despite being funny.
Good ol' Grimey! Best funeral food ever *drools*
@@2tjanthony How can you not be a Simpsons fan? I can't understand that.
@@taurtue I am huge fan of the facial art styles used on Frank Grimes, Dolph and various teenage guest characters on "The Simpsons". They are one of the most beautiful looking art styles EVER next to the facial art styles that "American Dad", "Future Rama", "Young Justice", "Code Lyoko", "Voltron", "Danny Phantom", "Disney's Treasure Planet" & "Japanimation" all use on their young characters. They are a huge part of my life.
I am just not a die-hard Simpsons fan and not into 'Simpsons' as a whole. Alot of episodes offended me and even outright infuriated me (e.g. any moment involving either Adult Audience Laughter, Audience Cheering, Rare Canned Laughter, Jokes mocking the essential Christian doctrines or all 4 of them at once). I only watch Simpsons anytime Dolph or a young teenage character (except Jimbo and Kearney) is on screen and also for the jokes that DO make me laugh (e.g. Homer shouting "DAMN!" in church service after realizing he put in $20 in the offering, Steamed Hams Memes).
@@2tjanthony ...what
The saddest part here is no individual is really at fault here. Homer wasn't a leech, he was just a friendly guy. And Frank venting on him is perfectly reasonable too since Frank worked way harder than Homer did.
No individual, only.. a system?
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If grimes or grimy as I like to call him wasn't so stuck in his mindset of working hard to achieve people would help him out more. Can't succeed and you can't be happy without friends.
Homer tried so hard to be his friend. It's sad to see when a person turns bitter. Even though I understand him it could only get better if he opened his heart for the world.
The only fault I find is Frank being a bit too harsh on Homer, right in his house and infront of his family
@@siphonophores The truth hurts.
People are like Frank Grimes who is a narcissist and are jealous of people who are doing well in life. Because they are bullshit because they didn't understand that life is not fair and bitter of other people doing good in life but wouldn't be jealous of other people doing well in life People are like Frank Grimes who think they people shouldn't better than him or her in life but he should do better than that person in life but don't understand that that person also works hard than him too but he doesn't see it. Homer had nothing in the beginning but work hard to get it
"He's got you there Dad"
So simple but brilliant 😂😂
Good ole' Bart remark!
"You're what's wrong with America: you coast through life, you do as little as possible and you leach off decent hard-working people like ME. If you lived in any other country, you'd have starved to death long ago."
Sad part about this scene is that Homer wasn’t even trying to set Frank off in his attempt to befriend him.
And if Frank Grimes had been nicer, he would have gotten lobster and made a friend.
True. Very true.
Facts. Homer was trying to make a attempt to show Frank Grimes that he is not really a bad person at all such as trying to get back on friendly terms with Frank but unfortunately it backfired horribly due to his jealousy and resentment. In Homer's defense the reason he has a happy and bright life due to his personality. Despite his dim-witted, incompetence, and laziness he can be a kind and sweet person with a big heart. Frank Grimes had a grumpy, snappy, and grouchy personality. For example- Homer, Lenny, and Carl we're being friendly such as introducing themselves towards him on his first day at the Chemical Plant but Grimes was very dismissive. The point I'm making is that you have a good or bad life based on your personality.
@@carlycrays2831 Facts. Homer was trying to make a attempt to show Frank Grimes that he is not really a bad person at all such as trying to get back on friendly terms with Frank but unfortunately it backfired horribly due to his jealousy and resentment. In Homer's defense the reason he has a happy and bright life due to his personality. Despite his dim-witted, incompetence, and laziness he can be a kind and sweet person with a big heart. Frank Grimes had a grumpy, snappy, and grouchy personality. For example- Homer, Lenny, and Carl we're being friendly such as introducing themselves towards him on his first day at the Chemical Plant but Grimes was very dismissive. The point I'm making is that you have a good or bad life based on your personality.
@@connorkling2952 Facts. Homer was trying to make a attempt to show Frank Grimes that he is not really a bad person at all such as trying to get back on friendly terms with Frank but unfortunately it backfired horribly due to his jealousy and resentment. In Homer's defense the reason he has a happy and bright life due to his personality. Despite his dim-witted, incompetence, and laziness he can be a kind and sweet person with a big heart. Frank Grimes had a grumpy, snappy, and grouchy personality. For example- Homer, Lenny, and Carl we're being friendly such as introducing themselves towards him on his first day at the Chemical Plant but he was very dismissive. The point I'm making is that you have a good or bad life based on your personality.
Homer's 'success' comes from getting along with people.
And taking initiative.
His success comes from the cartoon producers.
and quite a few good opportunities
His success comes from being in good place at good time and luck and being precieved as harmless
You don't need to argue with him, he's not real.
Despite Frank's hatred for Homer, he doesn't know the sacrifices he made for Marge and his kids. Before Bart was born, he had to leave Marge because her sisters hated him. He took a crappy fast food restaurant and gave her every dollar. And when Lisa was a kid, Homer sacrifice his money to buy her a saxophone so she will grow up smart. And before Maggie was born, he had a dream job working at a bowling alley but had to quit and return to the power plant so he can support her.
You make it out as if his wife and children happened to him. He created all those circumstances.
@mmtot but he still made the choice to do these things instead of leaving her and the kids high and dry
@@mmtot I mean, Homer does create a lot of the trouble he encounters in his life, but he's generally a nice person who tries to do right by his family. It's also not entirely his fault that the writers for the show continued to make him even worse and more irresponsible as seasons went on.
He's stupid and impulsive, not cruel or inherently selfish. For all his faults, he is the singular breadwinner of his family that does involve himself with his children and spends a lot of time with his wife.
@@Can_O_Crayola until eventually he stopped choking part and is now seemingly less of a idiot and more of a goof ball now.
@@Can_O_Crayola He was cruel. Towards Flanders. What people don't remember was that how Frank Grimes acted towards Homer, that's pretty much how he acted towards Flanders. But he gave that up when he saw Flanders reach his rock bottom - it gave Homer no pleasure to see that, even though he thought it would. He's still at odds with Flanders but not as much as he used to. Homer got over it. Frankie here... couldn't get over it. He represents the worst of what Homer used to be. Now Homer just loves life, while Frank resented every second of his remaining time on Earth.
1:01 Dans sweetness and genuine attempt at small talk on the line "You've Never Been?" Makes me laugh so hard, while making Homer so likeable in this scene cuz he's really trying to be a good host
My favorite line from this episode hahaha
Homer just wanted to be his friend.
if this was literally anyone else in the show that would be a sarcastic remark but, since this is homer, that question was 100% genuine lmfao
Homer: My daughter Lisa, IQ 156.
Lisa: Hi.
Homer: See?
John Bonilla
Homer: And my son Bart,
Bart: *clicks tongue*
Homer: He owns a factory down town!
Btw
Lisa’s IQ raised to 159.
👏🏼😅😅😅
that was proof enough
HIGH
When Frank just stops and takes a look around their house before saying, "Good heavens, this is a palace!" It's some of the most genuine emotion I've ever heard in voice acting.
That’s cos you’re a weirdo
@@eldoradorail8891 yes
@@BananaPhoPhilly correct
Real people vs cartoon people
He really captures the “too confused to be angry” voice.
People seem to forget that at one point Homer was in Grime’s shoes.
Flanders was originally Homer’s enemy as he had a nice family and lived in luxury while Homer had the complete opposite.
Inevitably Homer comes to realize that even when he triumphs over Flanders it doesn’t make him feel better about himself, I feel like the same could’ve happened with Grimes had he lived.
But other than that, Frank Grimes is basically someone from our world being put in the environment that is Springfield. While some would like to be friends with Homer it’s possible that most others would grow to resent him.
While Grime’s anger is albeit limited to Homer’s material wealth, it’s still very understandable as most people would expect their hard work to be rewarded instead of having someone be rewarded for practically doing nothing at all.
I mean, Ned's life also takes a nosedive. His business fails and his wives keep dying.
This is missing the point.
For one, Flanders, as far as I know, did earn his material wealth.
But, furthermore, Grimes's gripe here isn't purely materialistic, unless you count a "perfect family" as materialistic. He doesn't resent that he had to work hard his whole life. He states outright what his problem is: Homer is a fraud. Society has showered him rewards for nothing while ppl like Grimes barely eek out an existence keeping the country running. If this country actually had proper values and had it's priorities in order, Homer would have starved to death long ago.
Does that mean Homer hasn't worked hard? Of course not. But he has objectively coasted thru much of his life as well and in return, he has been granted outrageously disproportionate reward, whereas Grimes has been living the life of basically a slave with no future prospects of it ever easing up.
Not wanting to work till you're dead is far from "materialistic" and when you add on the sight of Homer Simpson, after a lifetime of unparalleled hardship and adversity: any reasonable would snap.
@@carlycrays2831not to mention his house getting destroyed by a hurricane.
This practically mirrors that scene where Ned invites Homer to his house to have a beer in the basement and Homer gets jealous of Ned's lifestyle
The irony is incredible 😂
I love how Frank Grimes complains about living in an apartment between two bowling alleys while Homer, who loves bowling would love to have a place like that.
I love Homer’s: “wooow”
It really shows that he sees the best of every situation. He’d be happy to live near a bowling alley, despite it being a small apartment.
The fact that Homer’s own family didn’t defend him says a lot..
No need to defend anybody. Grimes is a spiteful and envious character and no matter how much u may feel sorry for him, the fact remains that Frank's jealousy is what caused his life to end
There is also nothing to defend because it’s true
Homer has all those things happen to him because he got lucky
He earned none of it
It’s like if you won an art trophy even though you didn’t even apply for the competition
If that happened to someone I knew, I wouldn’t defend or laud them either
True but given all the good fortune homer’s gotten in his life can you blame him?
I think Grimes is wrong about something though
Homer isn’t able to live his lifestyle because he’s American. He’s able to live this lifestyle because he got lucky
Anyone trying to live like Homer would die in America too unless they got lucky
Also, it depends on what episode you’re watching, the episodes where Grimes isn’t in do have Homer face the consequences and do have him get called out on his stupidity and do have him be down on his luck
Hell, Burns usually plays the role Grimes plays in this episode
This episode also shows that the plot changes depending on who is writing the episode
@ShadowNny fuck u too old man
"Would you like to see my grammy award?" xD
Id like to know how he got it... Nevermind. How he was able to do any of that cool stuff is a mystery lol
+PhantoMace2012 He used to be the leader of a quartet. I forgot the name of their band but their was a whole episode about it.
+PhantoMace2012 Homer was the lead vocal of B-sharp.
+link11341 the B sharps
+GoMrTom sigh............ ok fine, where is it...?
At least Frank was nice enough to greet Marge in a polite way.
He calls her beautiful as well
"If you lived in any other country you would have starved to death long ago"
"He's got you there Dad"
LOL
-“You.... made a million dollars of GameStop? You”
“Sure. Didn’t you?”
Dont ask me how economy works
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"Would you like to see my Dogecoin?"
"I had to work hard every, day, of my life.
And what do I have to show?
This pre-paid phone and this haircut!"
@@Hugelag "I invested in dogecoin, every, day, of my life. And what do i have to show? A subway sandwich and this haircut!"
Frank has three things to show of his life; a TV tribute, a room between two bowling alleys and 'THIS HAIRCUT!!!'. Ironically, Homer would likely kill for any of them. :P
ToonReel001 and a briefcase!
Daaamn. This is like the deepest comment on here. We may think we have it worse in comparison to others, but in many ways we probably have many things other people would want. That's trippy, dude...
Holy shit I never even thought about that until now.
Homer has turmoiled and wailed over the loss of his hair.
*And its somethink Frank Grimes has.*
There are two girls on my recent life: my master student (and best friend) who comes from a poor family and they're having economical problems because the crazy virus... and a girl I was dating who's from a family with money, got an easy life, had her own house, car and economical freedom... but her mother died some years ago. I bet the second one would be changing everything she have with my best friend if this would be translated as getting her mother back.
For the haircut mostly I guess
I love how Frank makes it clear he only has negative feelings towards Homer
"You went to outer space?" "sure you never been.." the 90's episodes were so much better 😆
This episode is just really sad.
So much truth, back when The Simpson's was more than just a cartoon show.
I read somewhere that the Frank Grimes character represents all of us working people. They wanted to show what it wold be like if a regular person lived in the Simpsons world. That's why compared to Homer, even Lenny and Carl, Frank didn't talk much nonsense, he spoke like someone we'd meet on a regular basis. Clearly, a person in the real world would go crazy in the Simpsons world.
+All the Usernames were taken So, yeah I'm sure the character of Frank Grimes was influenced on Bill Foster (D-Fens) in the movie Falling Down with Michael Douglas (AWESOME MOVIE) I recommend it but that is also rather sad.
+All the Usernames were taken So, yeah
agreed
Actually, this episode exaggerated a lot, and as miserable Frank Grimes was, he didn't have to be a jackass to Homer (his stupidity was upped a notch, but he was still nice).
Paper Gangsta what do you mean "just a cartoon show"?
Bart’s factory is one of my favorite subplots in the show
A buck!
That and the episode where homer ran a scam thing where it calls people automatically and keeps asking for money lol
I felt like they didn't do as much with it though
"Where are all the rats gonna go?"
Love how homer has forgotten that it was Grandpa selling his farm that bought home his home 😂😂
was this before or after season 8
@@aeroga2383 Season 4. Lisa's First Word. Grandpa Simpson sells his house and gives the money to Homer to be able to afford a home for his family. Homer is overcome by the gesture and asks his dad to come and live with in the new home. That arrangement lasted 'a couple of weeks'.
He's trying to impress Grimes and show how normal his family is even if Homer is clearly not, but Grimes is takeing it the wrong way.
@@abseiduk What an asshole.
Frank had every reason to be bitter about the hilariously poor hand life dealt to him but who he chose to direct all that anger towards was sorely misplaced
Right? Like, I’ll never be able to own a house in this economy, but that’s nobody’s fault. It’s certainly not the fault of anyone who does own a house.
I think Homer is just an easy target for his anger.
i dont think it was missplaced at all homer is a prime example of liife isnt fair hes useless and reaps all the rewaords he nearly kjillds everyone daily
"You're a fraud, a total fraud" "Was nice meeting you" lol
jnr778 Shit! At the same time Grime was right about one thing. Lol
I love this part of the episode. Grimes envies all the things Homer has, yet he has things that Homer would like to have, such as hair and living between bowling alleys. It really is just a matter of perspective
Just an wonderfully written point that most people can never be satisfied in their lives and worlds and always want something more or what someone else has.
Tell me, what kind of person would prefer living in some shabby apartment between two loud bowling alleys and hair, versus having a nice house with a wife and children that have high IQ and own entire factories?
@@iSyriux probably Homer lol. He loves his family, yeah, but remember that he dearly misses his hair and the sound of bowling is like music to him. He’d probably be happy in either situation to be honest.
@@catsorafgc his dream job was working at a bowling alley. His love of bowling has been well analyzed throughout the show's history.
It's really not a matter of perspective, Homer is just an idiot.
In my opinion the Frank Grimes line of " I live in a small apartment above a bowling alley...and below another bowling alley" Is one of the funniest simpsons lines. You really get a feel for how grim ol Grimeys life is and how unhappy and unlucky he is despite all his hard work.
The world will sadly will always has its' winners and losers.
It has even more layers to it because it also shows homer feeling amazed at this bc of his failed dream of working in a bowling alley.
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"my night job at the foundry" Jesus....that was both painful to hear and relatable.
Maybe if he spent less money on hookers, he could afford a house.
I love how Bart agrees with Grimes.
Bart: He's Got You There Dad.
Homer could've at least told Grimes he was inviting him to dinner
but he could have left out the part about the lobster :P
I think Homer was afraid he wouldn't have come otherwise, that's why he fibbed to him.
Homer actually said to Marge that he didn't think Frank would come if he told him it was for dinner so he lied to him that he had something really important to tell him.....
Because then he wouldnt come
It wouldn't have mattered
Homer saved the astronatus and got no credit for doing so.
Grimey would have related to that.
Well he couldn't have done it without the carbon rod.
Homer and the other astronauts should have kept their mouths shut about the carbon rod so that they would have gotten credit and a parade.
Homer is the reason the astronauts had their lives in danger in the first place. That's not reward worthy.
By cartoon logic, he was the one that started all the problem for the astronauts. Also he saved them by pure accident (not willingly) to the point that if they didnt restrain him of redoing what he did, they surely would have died.
And maybe Grimes could also relate to Bart on the fact that the factory he got was a piece of shit that collapsed on itself.
"I live in a one room apart over a bowling alley and below another bowling alley" is probably the funniest joke in the entire history of the show
My single favourite line in all of The Simpsons. 2nd fave is “We shouldn’t have stopped for that haircut. Sorry.”
Also the followup of Homer being genuinely impressed
The funniest thing is when Homer says "wow.' Like through all that he's just impressed by the fact that he lives between two bowling alleys and would probably switch homes with Grimes if he could.
Watching this clip again makes me feel sorry for Homer. Everything he did was his attempt to "put his best foot forward" so that Grimes would like him, but Grimes took everything the wrong way.
Homer means well, but he is incompetent.
You must be like Homer in real life then
@@iSyriux and you are Frank Grimes. Cry baby.
@@iSyriux you are Frank Grimes in real
life.
You miss the point. He wasn’t angry cause Homer was successful. He was angry cause it was completely undeserving.
“How in the world can you afford to live in a house like this Simpson”?
“I dunno, don’t ask me how the economy works”
"Got ya there dad"
“You coast through life.”
Homer’s mom left him to escape from the law for good reasons while he lived with his toxic father who drinks and complains.
“You do little as possible.”
He did so much - He wanted to become a bowling worker until his kids are born. He thinks too hard about what to remember and wants to do the right things for his kids and wife.
“And you leech off decent, hard-working people.”
Though that is true about society, there are times when Homer truly worked hard. When Lisa wanted a pony, he had to work full hours at Apu’s store. When he can’t make a robot for Bart, he disguised himself to play along. When Marge wanted a ring, he tried to do everything to buy it.
Funny that both Homer and Grimes are on the similar account of “Living off a difficult life”. but each has their own bias on the other. Homer praises Grimes because he sees him as someone higher because he’s smart and neat, and normal. Plus he lives between two bowling alleys. Grimes, however, looked down on Homer and envies his lifestyle as if Homer got it easy.
Wouldn't you run from Abe and never look back?
Not the best husband or father, but still not a bad guy.
Proof that perspective is EVERYTHING. Grimes has no way of knowing what Homer's been through, only what he himself has been through. As far as we know, Homer never saw that Grimes documentary in the beginning, so Homer has no way of know what Grimes has been through, only what he himself has been through.
As such, it affects how they view each other.
to be honest homer did coast through life he got his job just because he showed up the day the plant opened his father abe while yes he wasn't the best father actually helped buy the house that homer lives under and he does try to do as little as possible at home and at work he is barely around for his family since he usually spends a day out of the month with them and he is a damn leech cause while he is just snoozing around and letting everything go to shit in the plant people are actually working
Even Homers position in the job where he does absolutely nothing was not given to him for free. He used to be lowly worker at the power plant where he was hired along with many other highschool graduates when Burns was building it. Once it was shown that Burns is trashing nuclear waste into illegal places Homer and Lisa made large campaign against Burns. Burns then gave Homer his current high position as a bribe to stop that campaign. He was risking his future to fight his boss to get that job, which was a huge gamble for him and his family, so to say that he was just given this position for free is downright false.
What Grimes doesn't know is that Homer didn't exactly have an easy life.
Yet, he has all the stuff Grimes should have despite how terrible of a worker he is.
@@Sean-Johnson yeh but Homer is far more likeable than grimes. Grimes wouldn’t ever get promoted no matter how hard he works, as he has no people skills.
@@tolgarrrr1601 Homer is likeable but also incompetent. He would have a hard time getting a promotion.
Grimes is not as likeable as homer
It’s not that simple. Frank wouldn’t get hired for a middle management position because the person over him would be afraid of losing their job. If you put a “Homer” in that same position you might have a to help him along but you know your job is secure
Let's be honest, we all got a little Frank Grimes in us.
As a Kid, i hated him. Now i understand his way hating Homer
Why would anyone hate Grimes? He’s unhappy about life and Homer aggravates the guy unintentionally over and over...
@@jaychung1380 I think maybe that's why people weren't too happy with Grimes. Sure, the dude had a really shit life and didn't have anything to show for his hard work, but the way he pins all that resentment towards Homer feels like the in-between of being justified and not. On one hand, Homer's laziness and absurd luck could be a source of contempt for anyone trying their hardest to make a living, but on the other hand, we often see a side of Homer where he cares about his family and friends and does kinda strive to do right, a side that Grimes unfortunately doesn't see.
Frank Grimes is a hero. He saved Homer's life and his reward for that act of kindness was being driven to suicide by the person that he saved. How in the hell could you hate Frank Grimes?
@@jamieSp69 Didn't Homer try to take Grime's criticism to heart and Grimes, unable to believe that Homer could be a honest worker, tries to sabotage and humiliate him by tricking him into joining a kid's competition? I don't know, everything after the attempted dinner feels like it was Grimes' fault for letting his resentment of Homer get the best of him.
@@ajgameguy3674 He screwed Grimes over too badly to come back from it. Homer got Grimes a pay reduction, and on the bad side of the boss because Grimes was a good enough person to save his life. Homer could had explained to Mr. Burns what happened with the wall at any time, but he didn't want to get into trouble with Burns, so he threw Grimes under the bus. I would have said "Fuck Homer" too after some shit like that.
Homer: The American Dream, beautiful family , loving wife, 2 cars, large home.
Frank: basically the real hardworking American, overwhelmed with debt, 9-5 daily grind, no wealth, worried about bills
Sometimes your both
... and taking it out on THE WRONG PERSON.
That’s probably the symbolism in America
One more missed mortgage payment and the dream dies.
Also Frank: Spending all his money on hookers, briefcases, and haircuts.
I love how despite how angry he was he still went out of his way to give a pleasant farewell to Marge.
The irony is that whenever Homer stops to reflect on his life, he thinks he is a loser who has acchieved nothing.
Every single frame and line of dialogue is just perfection
You don't deserve any of this, Homer!
Frank, being an antagonistic jerk to Homer isn't the way to go ya know. o3o
That's what _you_ think, Grimey!
Go back to being dead, Grimey
Well Grimey did move on to be a police lieutenant trying to negotiate with Denzel Washington in John Q. lol
How are you able to comment on the video? I thought you died from electrocution at the end of the episode.
He could get himself a lobster if he quit drinking all the Haterade in Springfield
Frank acknowledging Bart and his factory made me laugh
I love how he says “it was nice meeting you at the end” it’s like hey the man’s a fraud, but gotta keep it polite
I'm surprised Frank Grimes didn't turn into Joaquin Phoenix Joker.
If he survived he probably would have ended up like Bill Foster from Falling Down.
Robert Woodson lol I thought the same thing
Falling Down was the inspiration for frank Grimes. Even the look matches michael Douglass outfit identically
Great! Now you’ve got me picturing in my head Frank Grimes dancing on a flight of stairs dressed as the Joker
Does he have any negative thoughts?
Homer may not be the smartest person, but he has a big heart, he loves his wife and his kids and that is why he has a nice wife, a somewhat nice job, and wonderful kids( even Bart sometimes lol)
This is a great example of two people being right at the same time
*You can't even blame Frank, he tries his hardest, only to live in a one bedroom flat, while Homer who doesn't try is more successful. This is literally an analogy of how life works.*
True. Thought so as well.
American life anyway, in other countries you don’t get rewarded like homer for being lazy and incompetent
Flat? What are you, British?
@@edward870 That is an existing expression, what's your problem?
@@dropit7694 ... definitely not
- You...went into outer space, you?
- SURE, you’ve never been?
Homer was shocked that the person he was trying to impress was impressed not by his family, but by the material things Homer has.
"Don't hate the player, hate the game."
If anything, he should hate the game's rule-maker (Mr. Burns).
If the player also perpetuates your hate, there is no reason not to hate the player
it's hard not to hate the player when they're flaunting it in your face and saying "skill issue."
but I digress.
The moment you realized that Homer is more successful than you
Jokes on him! I built my own company!
The moment you realize homer is a cartoon character
Leonux ...oh
@@leonux978 homer wrote the odyssey
What is the definition of "successful"?
"A son who owns a factory"
That's actually an incredible achievement for a 10 y.o. kid 😂😂
But it was very out of character for Bart, and unfairly outshone Lisa and presented a distorted view of the entire situation.
@@laraselters9185 I mean, Lisa is practically a child prodigy and genius with a college level intellect in the second grade that everyone knows about. It's good that Bart gets his time to shine other than troublemaking. I don't think they were trying to outshine Lisa.
he bought it for a buck
@@laraselters9185 Unfairly? Lisa is a pretentious, know-it-all twit, and it's always cathartic to see Bart one-up her.
And before anyone calls me a misogynist, most of the female characters I watch are ones like Punky Brewster, Mona Parker, Hilda, Luz Noceda, Maggie Pesky and the like, who I'd argue are closer to Bart than Lisa in terms of character. I'm all about them plucky tomboy types who just like to be themselves and do their own thing.
The joke behind that line was that while Bart DID own a factory, it was rundown, non-functioning, and collapsed near the end of the episode. All Bart used it for was as a giant playhouse.
Frank Grimes is a wordplay synonymous to truth and ruin. Frank really was frank with Homer.
Frank Grimes is what Ned Flanders could been if he wasn’t faithful, happy and successful.
And also, Frank Grimes is also Homer's past behaviours with Ned Flanders coming back to meet him.
@@jorgebersabe293" your wife's butt is better than MY wife's butt"
@@jorgebersabe293 Totally.
Probably Hank Azaria's finest performance. He gets notes out of Frank Grimes that you never hear on this show.
Frank Grimes represents the real world. Hank Azaria pretty much used his real voice
I think this episode was written by Conan
Not the real world but a post modern critique on Homer Simpson's character. At the end of the day, all Homer really does is abide with his time in life, where as Grimes is too materialistic to notice what can really make him happy. He's a godless man and his only desire in life is to be successful in spite of his cynical attitude towards society and most importantly, himself.
@@bloodwrage Everyone keeps assuming that with classic episodes 😂.
Frank Grimes Jr completely shat on this entire character by saying he wasted the money he burnt himself out on for hookers, while the whole point of Frank is that he’s the idyllic American hardworking honest man in the dishonest world of Springfield. I swear it’s like after season 8 the show turned into modern Family Guy
Actually it reveals that Grimey can be a hypocrite too. Hardworking and getting hard at the same time.
I get your point, but just think about this as follows: Grimes never got happiness, so it's implicit that not a single woman looked at him as a suitable partner. Many men go to hookers not fot sex, but searching company because they feel alone. I remember some confesions made by hookers on Reddit (maybe, I saw those on CZcams videos) and many were about men hiring them not for sex, but talking, many being recurrent clients. Also, I have a friend who dates older men, she said me about a man who was married, but always searching that "spark" he lost with his wife, so they dated, but also get involved in long conversations. This also happens to women, my sister lost his husband the same year her ex husband died (she technically became widow two times in less than 12 months), she's still trying to get a relationship because she feel a vacuum on her life.
Grimes dying without knowing he got a son, a motivation for keeping his sanity makes his character even more tragic... but I just watched Grimes Jr's episode one time, I don't remember the details, but I guess Grimes never knew about him.
Pretty sure it was written by people who HATE Homer's Enemy to begin with.
@@MrlspPrt But here's a question you should ask yourself, what hooker names their child after a guy they banged once as part of their job with a client they barely know? Also Frank doesn't seem like the type to hang around with prostitutes so his son could’ve just said that his mother and father use to date. That would’ve been a more legit answer than some random hooker.
In the spanish dub He just said that grimes liked hookers.
This... this is one of the greatest scenes in film and television history.
I really felt sorry for the character Frank Grimes in this episode, his life is like a Greek tragedy where a man is cursed by the gods to suffer hardship and humiliation, doomed to failure no matter what he does. Like Sisyphus, where no matter how many times he pushes a boulder up a steep mountain in the underworld, at the top he weakens from exhaustion and the boulder rolls back down to the bottom again, for all eternity!
But Sisyphus kinda was a huge dick when he was alive..
Greek tragedy, or really just a self-fulfilling prophecy? What exactly does Frank Grimes work hard *FOR?*
@@edwardgaines6561 youll understand when youre older.
@@edwardgaines6561 nothing, he believes in a system that will not help him. Hard work doesn’t get anything. Luck, connections, and deceit benefit you in the system.
@@Swanlord1 A system like that deserves to be nuked, literally. Prove me wrong
What Frank didn't get is that Homer, despite being more towards the lazy side, has a heart of gold, a good sense of humour, a knack for making friends, and a positive attitude. He probably never went out to party with friends, and his personality intimidated people into not wanting to be his friend.
+Neon Pegasus yeah that's the one side no one discusses, it's obvious that frank has let his denial of success make him bitter and confrontational, i mean it makes sense, he knows Homer doesn't work as hard or is as smart as him and yet he gets rewarded/tolerated whereas Grimes gets hits hard, but that's life.
+Mckenzie .Latham There's also the fact that despite these achievements, Homer is often fairly luckless. He neglected to inform him of the times he got stuck inside a water chute in a theme park, fell down a gorge (twice) and has risked losing his mansion and his loving family over and over again. His wondrous space mission was a disaster that ended up with him ignored in favour of a nuclear carbon rod while touring with the Smashing Pumpkins got him permanent injuries in a stunt (with his fickle kids being embarrassed by him just because he didn't risk killing himself). He gets the negatives as much as the positives, just both are concentrated to their extreme.
Oh my gosh! Are U serious?!?
First of allLook at frank grimes background in this episode
He had been ditched by his parents
He moved thing by HIMSELF (certainly not easy)
He is a hardworking person who deserves to be in a better position from his outpout in work
And look at homer
He had a crayon stuck in brain in one of the episodes
Homer ditched his OWN DAUGHTER just so he can have friends(realise how many people you can be friends with besides drunks like barney gamble)
Homer has NO SENSE of humour! You tend to like him because of the way he annoys people... Which is just a bad habit to have in like
Homer has NO SENSEbof humour AT ALL
He tends to annoy people thats why you like him
Look at ned flanders!
Ned is like the nicest person but you may not like him due to his personality
Homer tends to annoy a nice person
Frank grimes got a degree in physics whereas homer was let off from a speech with mr.burns (Lucky)
Frank grimes is a hard-worker who derseves more than homeer especially after frank got ditched by his OWN PARENTS!
I myself HATE homer due to the way he bullies peoples and gets what he doesn't deserve
"..He's gotcha there Homer."
Bart calls it like it is lmao
I think it says a lot that rather than revising his initial opinion of Homer as a dumb lazy oaf upon learning he has a lovely home, perfect family, is friends with a former president, has been on tour with a rock band, went to space, and is a Grammy winning artist- Frank is just more angry, indignant and jealous. Rather than admiring Homer and considering he might have something to learn from him, Frank just blames the world that Homer has everything and he has nothing.
franks whole character trope is that he believes in hard work. ever since he was literally abandoned on the roadside as a child, he had worked hard, and despite his efforts the universe kept shitting on him, which only then made him try even harder.
and in the end he has nothing to show for his wasted years and endless effort. meanwhile everything just lands into homers lap from the sky like hes some modern day biblical figure favored by god.
I would be bitter as hell too ngl.
I like how even though Frank hates homer homer just wants to be friends with him. I kinda miss that version of homer because now he is just Jerkass homer.
mae moment uwu
Which started two seasons after this "Homer Simpson in Kidney Trouble".
This episode really upset a lot of people and continues to. The real reason is that most people in America "think" they are like Frank Grimes, but deep down they are afraid that they are really like Homer Simpson. The subtle truth makes people uncomfortable.
Nothing wrong with being like Homer. He can't help it that everything works out for him. He isn't a leech like Grimey says, he's just a lucky SOB
*****
Good points
Sausages, I agree. Compared to Peter Griffin, who I'm pretty sure deep down hates his family like the other Griffins do, the Simpsons seem to actually love each other. Sure Homer chokes Bart, but that's become so iconic that it's accepted by us. Plus, Bart always does something to deserve it, unlike Meg who never does, and mistreated by everyone
Frankly, I'd rather be like Homer than Frank. From and outside view, Homer's more of a fun guy.
Kif Kroker and David M. not true
Grimey: "How on earth can you afford to live in a house like this, Simpson?!"
Homer: "I don't know, don't ask me how the economy works."
Hes on his third mortgage that's how. If frank had no debt like the sensible guy he seems he's doing better
I thought Grandpa helped him out expecting to live there with them, then Homer shipped him off to the old folks home.
@@giantskunk he also has several mortgages out as we found out when he went to buy his computer
Moral of the story is don't judge a book by its cover. If Grimes really knew the Simpsons he may not be so envious.
@@jcrowley1985 But he lives in a room above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley
The core truth of life is that some people get handed everything on a silver platter through absolutely no doing of their own, through sheer luck and/or inheritance and are blind to this fact, while others can struggle their entire life and never have to show anything for it, through no fault of their own.
But Homer does work hard. Or at least relative to how lazy he is...
He hates working at the plant, but he does it to provide for his wife and children. And Homer does come from a broken home, his father was occasionally abusive, he had trouble in school, and no one really supported him until Marge came along.
Lol, homer isnt a nerd who spends all day behind screens being armchair thinker. If he struggles he works hard. He doesnt blame society or americca. Unlike most Americans who spent time behind their screens.
@@blackboxbs8642 "He works hard"... Have you ever watched the show? He constantly cuts corners, does everything half-assed and is proud of it and everything falls into his lap. The only reason why his life is good because it's a cartoon. Normally, his life would be a nightmare if The Simpsons operated on real life logic.
85% of millionaires come from nothing. So hard work usually does pay off. Don’t let life get ya down. Kill or be killed (not actually but you get the point)
I have so much appreciation for the Simpson’s now. They where dropping gems about life in a covert way
The joke is that Grimes is supposed to represent a real human being, like how the average viewer of the show would feel living in the Simpson's world.
Beef Chavez It’s more like the plot. There’s nothing funny about what you described
@@thepalm8907 The 'joke' in this case is ironic I think.
X X You are probably right.
Beef Chavez The Simpson’s had no savings. No money. Grimes was just a glass half empty pissed off character
@@thebluefus Well, yes. If you worked your ass off and got nothing for it, you'd pissed off too.
I know it's a cartoon, but take it into consideration that despite Homers faults, he truly is one blessed individual
People misunderstand that Grimes is a reflection of the other half of America - the hard workers that life isn't fair to, and that point of fairness that he's so focused on drives him to anpoint of insanity and death. Homer is the half who is content to let the world do its thing while he's enjoying himself, just coasting along and well, being lucky. Luck is a huge part of life and Grimes doesn't understand it which drives his bitterness into insanity.
People shouldn't be lucky, people ought to have the same as homer has
I love it then Grimey is impressed of Homer’s house, family, clothes, food, cars and yet Homer is impressed that he lives between two bowling alleys 😂😂😂
There's a lot to dislike about Homer BUT his attitude of seeing the best of a situation counts for a lot. When Grimes is bitter about living in-between two bowling alleys, Homer sees that as a plus. Now, obviously the reality of hearing balls knocking over pins 24/7 must be maddening but Homer is different to Grimes because he doesn't let it get him down.
They wouldn't be 24 hr bowling alleys lmao
You don't see how it might be frustrating for someone living in a gorgeous house to be like "wow, you are so lucky!" because they don't realize how bad living between two bowling allies would be?
Its like someone living in a gated community telling someone living in a shithole apartment how envious they are of the poor person because they get to live in such a bohemian atmosphere.
Homer lets adversity get him down all the time. The difference between Grimes and Homer isn't that Homer is accepting of his fate with a smile. Its that Grimes tries to make his situation better by working hard and playing by the rules, and Homer tries to make his situation better with mad cap cartoon schemes. And because Homer is in fact a cartoon character in a sitcom, it works out ok for him.
@@stonem0013 who would want to bowl all night?
Uhm, I think the inference is homer is just too retarded to understand how terrible that situation would be.
@@ShellysAshes both are true. Homer is clearly a complete fool, but his happy go lucky attitude and love of life are his most positive qualities
Frank spending 2 minutes in Homer's house as a guest is like viewing someone's Facebook. Things get prepared to impress others and hide the shitty elements.
Haha, facebook.
Facebook is cancer.
Did the Simpsons predict the effect of social media on a younger generation????
@@joere-uploader5766 Wow mate are you really that dense that you completely miss the point. Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok , Tumblr and Twitter are all cancer!! And yes there are more platforms that are pretty much the same.
@@joere-uploader5766 If anything your reply supports what I said. People adding "friends" as commodities who will not interact with their page = cancer. Plus women have to be careful who they add or men will jerk off over their photographs. More cancer. And then there is all the targeted advertising and fake news via Russia and god knows what else (the latter point is the most crucial)
This is the turning point for when Frank loses sympathy. He was invited to dinner and instead of just accepting friendship he allowed himself to be consumed with envy and spite.
Homer be like "I offered you friendship, and you hated me for that"
Frank doesn't realise he's being invited over for dinner, all he was told was that homer urgently needed to talk to him which was why he came over. Although Homer may not have meant to do all of those things to Frank, from Franks perspective it just seemed as if homer was rubbing salt on the wound and being condescending by showing off his 'perfect' family.
Honestly, although Homer is an idiot, he has one thing that so many rich people have that people like Grime overlook, people skills. No matter what happens on the show homer is still likable by everyone and he knows how to work the crowd.
You know the saying, "when opportunity knocks, open the door"? Homer is like that. Opportunity just knocked on his door more than Grimes's.
every single job and every single classroom has a Frank Grimes.
Those aren't people aren't like Frank Grimes. Frank Grimes got to where he is by working hard and befriending those who could help him, but Homer was such an insufferable jackass with more success than any normal person would have in a lifetime, including Frank himself despite all the work he put into his life, that it drove him crazy.
Terry I yeah I can think of a couple, the physically ugly, hyper self-conscious try-hards that are destined to show their worth by acting like they know everything. And when they think no one is looking, you can tell they truly feel terrible and hate themselves
friend don't necesarilly mean success
Terry I And the White House has a Homer Simpson.
Now I’m scared I’m my classrooms Frank Grimes I do a media production course at College and I appear to be the only one who actually gives a shit and works without complaining and to good standard then I badmouth the lazy people when I get home
In Homer's defense, Grimes could probably afford a higher standard of living if he didn't blow all his money on hookers.
Don't forget haircuts and briefcases
@@johnmccrossan9376 especially the haircuts
a man's gotta eat.
man got needs
@@dang0s804 a man also has a hand and imagination
I always despised Frank’s bitterness and jealousy. He hates Homer because Homer has what he wants, not what he needs.
Homer needed a larger house for his growing family. He stays devoted to Marge and deeply loves his kids, especially Lisa and Maggie. He has his faults, but Homer’s got a good heart and keeps things simple, instead of desperacy to reach the top like Grimes. Homer isn’t exactly happy with his life, but he’s content, and provides for his family. I respect people like that.
Same
Based.
Yeah, I wish Homer wouldn’t have to be this too oblivious. (the writers probably should’ve known this and then it doesn’t need to make it worse, at least)
Grimes really needs to control himself, understands and be content of any of this but we all know what happens next
Give him some fame damien lol
He hates homer because he's an idiot and doesn't deserve anything he's got lol. He's right when he says he's leeching off hard working people. Homer does nothing all day.
Homers success comes from being the main character of the script....
Ikr its his show, Grimes never stood a chance.
What's sad about this exchange/episode is Frank Grimes never knew that Homer is no different than him. Homer is insanely jealous and resentful of Ned Flanders because he has a better lifestyle than his. Though I agreed with everything Grimes has said, he lost me at the "decent, hardworking" part. Hardworking, yes. Decent, far from it. You can't go through life with a bitter and resentful attitude. This is definitely one of the most realistic and definitely darkest episodes.
kgunitkeese17 never noticed
It's not indecent to be human. Frank's gone through a hard, unrewarding life, yet he still chugs on, doing his menial job and paying his taxes. You know, until he goes insane. It''d be difficult not to be embittered, especially when the person who represents the antithesis of everything you stand for works right next to you.
Frank only got bitter after Homer kept harrassing him and distracting him during work. You are biased against Grimes because this is a cartoon and you like Homer too much. In real life, I doubt you would tolerate Homer's behaviour.
Well, Grimes did save Homer's life so......
@@eiffel0108
And he was punished for doing so by Mr. Burns due to Homer snitching on him. That was what caused him to start hating homer.
Frank Grimes: I'm Homer Simpson I can do whatever I want without consequences.
biztzzzzz RiP Frank Grimes
Real-life logics and cartoon logics *do not compute!* That's one of this episode's message/point.
Homer doesn’t need to work the same way everyone else does, cause he takes initiative and is an overall likable guy, that’s what causes him to get ahead in life, he isn’t picky about things and is always down for something fun
Homer has that Forrest Gump energy. He just floats through life and it rewards him
I love Simpsons episodes like this, so many layers to the writing and comedy, a joy to watch after many years!
Homer is the proof that once you stop giving a shit things fall into place.
Lol
Even though he is fictional, if I met Homer I would try and befriend him. Homer may do wacky things but he is a good person deep down.
I personally would find his loud demeanour and outright oafishness too much, but that's just me. I would still be nice to him and say hello in passing, and live it at that.
The average worker vs the Twitch streamer
Really says a lot about our society.
Imagine hating on someone who has recognised the flaws in the working system and is capable of making a living off it, people like you are just jealous because you werent smart enough to see the potential in streaming as an income yet
@@vin8754 seems like I busted a nerve.
@@SemperFi777 indeed, i have no pity for those who hate to see others suceed for the sole reason that they are not currently as succesful, you try to make it out as if people who arent streaming are being wronged in some way
@@vin8754 I think it comes more as a fact that while one is busting his ass off to make a living, another one sits on his ass to play videogames and get paid for it. Streaming is NOT work. It's a hobby. People get money because of donations, not as a result of his work. And if you have a family to feed, you can't do 24 hour livestreams. As you have obligations and demands in your adult life.