Clarification: it has been said on the stream that conduit will benefit all members of the team who have this trait, no matter who would pick up the clue.
I would guess this lowers the value of stamina shot. Although conduit itself is quite a situational trait but way better value than having greyhound+determination or even with vigor.
My thoughts exactly. I've been a Pax lover since beta and I have been extremely frustrated to see the scottfield basically replace the Pax. I personally am not a fan of the scotfield.
I believe the reason the 1866 bayonet wasn’t called a “musket bayonet” was that the Winchester variant the Winfield Musket Bayonet is based on was historically advertised as the 1873 Winchester Musket. More than likely Crytek was basing their naming convention on that fact.
Yep, there "musket" was referring to the length. They sold the 1873 in Carbine, Sporter (similar to the 1873 in game) and Musket configurations, with the last being the traditional length of a full-size musket. They'd hoped to win military contracts with it but few were ever made, per Wikipedia
@@Silver_7881That's because the capacity of the Winfield is based on the tube length, and the musket configuration is longer than the standard rifle. This allows it to fit several more rounds, while other bayonets are just attached to a standard size rifle.
The winchester varriant you see in game is the french cavalry contract lever rifle that was used to replace the special needle fire rifle they were using. The gun had to match the length of the gun they had as it was supposed to double as a bayonet lance system (which was deemed impractical a year after they received the contract guns). This would also not see a second request as it was better to switch the cavilry to the Berthier short rifle as it was home produced and was cheaper in that regard. The reason the Winchester was selected was because a fight which Russia took on about 1 year prior saw an entire company decimated by a 30 man horseback team of there opponent flanking them and firing all of there 7 shot tube into the Russian ranks causing them to rout with heavy casualties (keep in mind the Russians were still trying to use muskets). This Prompted Italy to also focus on a magazine style rifle right away, leading to Italy skipping from matchlocks to a 6 shot "stripper" fed bolt rifle when most nations didnt have a speed loading option yet selected for there idea. Name wise for the bayonet is the fact the winchester company made the bayonet as well as 3 other companies, this leads to the bayonet on the winchester contract rifle being the same as the springfield and thus makes it hard to name without confusing the call out. Personally the Springfield has been long over due for the pointy bit, cant wait to have a chance of count a knife rush outside of my single shot :p
Dennis suggested that a reason for giving the Scottfield more ammo variants was to increase its pick rate, which seems odd to me because I see Scottfields all over the place but almost never the Pax. I guess the data says something different than my anecdote though!
Exactly. I rarely see the Pax anymore, and get really frustrated to see the Scottfield keep getting more and more. We should have gotten a Pax Precision, not a scottfield precision
Didn't data show recently that the Scott field had a really high player kill count in the past few months? I've been playing pax because I like the sights and fire rate
Edit: my original comment was misinformed since I thought you were referring to the Bornheim getting dum dum, which it's not, & you're actually referring to the Centennial getting dum dum. My bad. original misinformed comment: might not be as threatening in practice as on paper. remember that putting dumdum on a pistol lowers the bullet velocity, and the silenced Bornheim is already going to have super low velocity. I wouldn't be shocked if the dumdum on it takes the velocity down to 200 m/s. For reference, that's less than the velocity of silenced Negant at 250
It will be interesting to see what happens with so many weapons getting dumdum and the event traits having a huge focus on health restoration. I feel like officer carbine with dumdum is going to be an absolute terror.
Infernal pact will be meta since it counters bleeding, burning and antidote prevents poison, so I think dumdum will be strong but 50% of people will play infernal so it won't work consistently, plus I doubt they will fix the no bleeding bug
As a person who liked cheat death, I’m glade it’s not coming back this event. It was nice to rack up exp like that but I always felt it went against the spirit of the game and how you should be mindful of your decision making to get out rich or get out with as much of you left as possible. These new traits not only have some amazing artwork but are great ways to incentivize trying new things
I still want them to add a Savage 95/99 so bad. It was the first lever action rifle able to use spitzer ammo, as it has an 5 round internal magazine and not a tube. It's also a hammerless action, which is just beautiful. It was usually chambered in 303 savage which was a popular caliber back then for civilians. Huge update though, lots to be excited for here!
Honestly, I'd love to see a Lee action, and have it function like the crag, but only be able to be reloaded by changing magazines. I'd be a long lee, so it would be 2 8-round magazines. Alternatively, they could go for the original Lee-Navy that used 5 round box magazines and was in 45-70. make it a medium gun with 3+1 detachable magazines that function like the Berthier.
Oh yes, the Officer Carbine with Dum Dum, because it wasn't annoying enough already. I guess in the end it won't really matter since the thing fires so fast and the aim punch caused by it is so bad you won't have time to shoot back or run to cover anyways.
Kinda sounds like they're going too far in the other direction with flash bombs. Not being able to pick them up in game/loot off of other hunters is a bit much, the other nerfs seem to be enough to me.
I have encountered enemy flash bombs like maybe 10 times in 900 hours. And I got flashed like 5 times by them. It might be more of a catered nerf for very high elo players and streamers
@@johannesschmitz6370 I play 5-6 star and I see them all the time. The pick up rate for them from consumables boxes is probably the most frequent it seems. But it does seem like less experienced players hardly ever use them. They’ve probably flashed themselves before and are afraid of doing it again. I’m my lobbies, a flash = a free kill. They could have just lowered the pick up rate. Changing it to where you HAVE to buy them makes no sense to me.
Kinda dislike how flash bombs no longer give you a hit marker when you flash someone but if the hunter still makes the pain sound when they are flashed it shouldn’t be too bad. Also really wish the Pax got HV instead of the Scottie because now the Pax just doesn’t really seem all that worth taking over the Scottie. Centennial dum dum is going to be pretty interesting as it will most likely 1 shot players who’ve been downed once already unless they have super fast reactions and press and hold f the second they get hit Springfield with HV is pretty cool tho I never really thought it needed it personally
@@KuthGoblinCrytek really hit us with the "Sowwwwy :))) Plague Doctor isn't returning. Have some dumbasses who imitate scrapbeak or smth (it's a DLC btw)"
Kinda crazy that they nerfed the flash multiple ways at once. IMO the slow priming would have been enough. Dev's seem to often go overboard with nerfs.
They are going to have to make a change to bleed if everything is going to do bleed. I know there is the bloodless trait but if you have to patch on every hit then the game will slow down a lot if people keep having to patch themselves.
@@thesicknessism If you are fighting someone from like 70 meters shooting a winnie then you can ignore the first 25 bar lost as you are only vulnerable to a HS kill at that range.
A musket is a type of weapon that shoots a lead ball which has to be directly fed into the barrel with gunpowder which was popular in the late 1600s and early 1700s. Just because something has a bayonet does not mean it should be called a musket, bayonets have been used on 1000s of weapons throughout history and to relocate them to just the American/French Revolutionary Wars is just silly lol. No reason it should be called a musket
I'm very excited about all these changes. The Flash change seems like a big nerf (which I'm "meh" on), but the ability to swap ammo types on the fly is awesome. The new weapons look crisp as well. I'm slightly concerned about all the ways they allow you to restore/regain a health chunk, but I'll reserve judgement until I play it for a bit. I'm glad Death Cheat isn't making a comeback this time around, it's great but removes the risk/reward calculus. Very glad the devs are listening :)
bullwork might just now become a must pick for me lol. Not too stoked for the pseudo pax nerf. Always felt like the Pax was a support type pistol to carry extra ammo cause it had the biggest variety to pick from. HV+dumdum medium on the Scoffield feels like the pax will be getting less picks now unless you really want extra poison. Which sucks cause Pax is my favorite sidearm lol, that's the only reason I went on this rant. Also sad Conduit is getting the reduced timer but I'm glad it buffs the whole team. Hope in the future we will see more perks that buff the team/teamplay items. Super stoked. Nee Veterli animation looks dope and clean
I'll try flashbang when the update comes out but if I have no feedback that they are flashed it will be added to my useless tools list. Conduit time will be reduced? What for? So we can spend more time in a running simulation in slow motion? I don't understand who they are trying to please. Where do they get the feedback from? The rain map was stunning and awesome but i don't see that many playing it. They should do surveys asking stuff to the players that actually play this game regularly.
I think that uppercut sinks definetely the obrez category: much more precise gun for medium-long range, with a deadeye option that could be spicy. no perks required. Imho they should balance it alla just lowering of 100 dollars the price of basic uppercut and the new variants but putting them in a 2 slot for basic one and 3 slot for the long ones. Maybe more range and ok. But in this way the definetely kill the mosin obrez variant. Why should you run them, if you have a much more stable gun that costs more but is so much more reliable? The uppercut is the best pistol in the game, above bornheim for the versatility (ammo pool for long ammo and ranged option for shotguns). With this it gets even more "buff".
@@Dultus Yeah, but those do less than 125 damage. I just feel like the cyclone doing more than 125 would be annoying to fight against. Which is why I said I would wait and see.
NOOOOOoooo!..... I can't believe they added scottfield high velocity ammo before the pax! C'mon, the pax has been waiting for something for so long... and they give something cool to the scottfield again... I think someone on the team just really loves that gun.
I think i'm gonna sit this one out. Crytek literally went "okay fuck balance let's do this" and proceeded to add the most busted stuff to the game. I am NOT looking forward to fighting solos that can't burn, can't bleed and refill their health constantly on kill.
Been calling foul on the flashbomb for years. The subreddit would downvote me to hell anytime I'd criticize its balance: "Just run away", "Use your own flashbomb to counter", "Memorize the building and just run away while blind", "If they're in the game, they're balanced. Get good". The cope was insane, but anyone with 2 brain cells and a critical eye for game balance could realize it was absolutely busted. No warning, instant explosion, and 5 seconds of blindness is actually ridiculous. Crazy that it hasn't been fixed all these years, and NEVER felt fair to fight against.
A Musket variant (in Hunt terms) would have a longer barrel and a bayonet, this is just a "normal" Springfield with a bayonet - hence the Springfield Bayonet and not Musket.
Would love to see Gator Legs receive a buff by affecting Water Devil aggro range or something to nerf Water Devils, as it is a perk I feel is chosen very infrequently. I hate Water Devils and would love a reason to take the perk more often.
So now we have solo's that are harder to burn and imunne to bleed. Meaning concertina traps and lanterns are no longer an answer to self revive. I can't see what could go wrong with this.
springfield high velo is going to be awesome! im hoping for more than 600m/s. Also spitfire with high velo will be sooo good to make it a viable pair with shotguns for those of us who have a hard time leading shots.
I think the Springfield is the most left behind gun. Just because its cheap doesn't mean you shouldn't have options. It's one of the most punishing guns to miss with. At least the baynet variant will help make it more viable. I hope the highspeed is at least 615 to 630ms because it makes no sense that a Drilling has a faster normal bullet speed.
@@dantheman1998 nah, not that punishing. Its reload's half of the time of the spark. Have a good special ammo options. Highspeed going to make it busted, with the scottfield ammo pool, expecially on marksman version.
@@dantheman1998 honestly the springfield is pretty good already IF you use dumdum ammo. it has high accuracy, little sway and the reload is as fast as chambering the next shot on a specter. Its juts not really viable with normal ammo and at longer rangers. Bayonett will be sick though because of the musket look.
@eurghunner I've had maybe 2 kills from bleeding out with 100s of hits with the Springfield and Dumdum. You get hunters to take cover but it never seems to get that much value. I thought it inflicting heavy bleed would change.....not so much. Never got a kill with the heavy bleeding.
I have a lot of questions about that new ammo box. Is it guaranteed to be at every supply point? Can it be used by two people? Does it always restock to full even if you're completely out of bullets? Can I use it if I only brought regular ammo and get free custom ammo?
Felt like we need a pax variant with a longer barrel. Not a precision just a longer barrel version of the pax like the size of the Conversion or standard uppercut
Shadow as a real and not event exclusive (burn) trait? i mean, its not like shadow renders hive bombs usless, it also gives a massiv advantage in fights. Hope the "burn trait" function of this is "if your hunter leaves the match either with a bounty, without or dead, the trait will be gone." I have seen so many traits in these events that would be a good addition to the trait roaster, but not shadow, its the only trait so far i would call op. it also completly removes the pve aspect of the game. Either way, thank you for this summary.
sometimes i ask myself if we reallyty need all this variants and then i end up using them a lot so im excited, just hope the pax gets something soon, although im happy with it as it is so its not such a big deal i do want a new damage type the most though
Nice i like events but the guns i wish for exemple they would add perk called slam fire for pump action shotguns or atleast the slate and add some new weapon not only variants even tho they are cool
I'm confused on how Shadow can be a burn trait and how it can "stack"? What's the requirement for the trait to burn off? Entering aggro range? Getting hit by AI?
I barely ever spend money on the game and I have 11 slots just from blood tribute alone. Only 200hr player. I maybe use half of them regularly. How are you using more than 10 loadouts lol?
@@ep69420 I have 1300hrs and enjoy playing for fun and not meta. I like thematic builds or build revolving around particular weapons. I have a build for light, medium, long, silent, dead-eye, a poison build, fire build, traps,and breaching through doors. That's not including trying to make a build for all the new stuff that they have already added and will add.
they should make the verterlli semi auto special ammo. It would make sense, since the normal black power load would fowl the gas recoil spring cylinder thing.
Small gameplay/gun nut rant. The scotfeild was based irl off the schofeild revolver. .45 schofeild was weaker that .45 colt because the schofeild couldnt handel the power. Game rant give the Pax high vel so it has more use i love the pax but scottfeild spitfire or swift are better ish
I don't think so, they would overlap with the event quests and would be pretty akward. Tho it would be cool to be able to get Mama Maye for us who missed her
Thank you for the wrap-up, highly appreciate thise videos from you for years now. Ok the event - all great but i really cannot understand the flashbang changes. They will almost disappear from the game now i assume (sounds like a huge nerf all in all)
Still no Dragons breath for the Crown n’ King which is just crazy to me. Like we got a Uppercut Precision Deadeye, which I’m pretty sure was suggested as a Joke! But Dragons breath Crown is just too much??
It realistically wouldn't work. DB rounds don't have the kick to fully cycle the bolt and chamber the next round, meaning you'd have to manually rack the bolt each time.
Thank God no Instinct or Death Cheat. I am also very happy about the Flare Gun and Derringers getting ammo resupplied through boxes because that means I only have to get mad at toolboxes giving me a single throwing knife instead of a medkit.
I said all these changes awhile back im so happy about conduit changes and world special ammo but i wonder if i come in with a specific ammo type and make it normal ammo if i dont want the ammo i have
Flashbomb nerf is completely uneccesary. They're never used to behin with and the people who bitch about it get killed maybe once a week at most by them because "It's a cheap kill!".
Clarification: it has been said on the stream that conduit will benefit all members of the team who have this trait, no matter who would pick up the clue.
I would guess this lowers the value of stamina shot. Although conduit itself is quite a situational trait but way better value than having greyhound+determination or even with vigor.
@@Sentinel-kk3lv Greyhound does very little lol.
@@rogerhill9559 I feel the same too but my friends likes to take it since they don't like to use stam shot and opt for throwables
@@Sentinel-kk3lv imagine thinking picking up clues in Hunt is situational
As if groups of 3 need more help…
Someone at Crytek spent $14,000 on a collector's Schofield and is compensating for buyers remorse.
Pax should've gotten the precision and HV
Pax just needs some damn variants lmfao. claw is cool and all but the scottfield has so many
My thoughts exactly. I've been a Pax lover since beta and I have been extremely frustrated to see the scottfield basically replace the Pax. I personally am not a fan of the scotfield.
Holding out for the single slot "pax deadeye" that will make it all worth it.
@@G33KSP34KScottfield really doesn't sound as satisfying to use. Love the crack of the Pax
Pax not getting the HV was a big missed opportunity
This turnaround time was insane
OMG I LOVE TURNAROUND!!! I learned all about it from CZcams
@@bobthehotdog5138is this supposed to be funny? I got a headache reading your comment
@@Jungus1999 clearly, you have NOT watched “what is a turnaround” on CZcams. I suggest you get on that asap.
Most of this information was released several days ago dude...
@@Jungus1999 it was funny, it was hilarious actually. I think you just didn't get it
I believe the reason the 1866 bayonet wasn’t called a “musket bayonet” was that the Winchester variant the Winfield Musket Bayonet is based on was historically advertised as the 1873 Winchester Musket. More than likely Crytek was basing their naming convention on that fact.
Yep, there "musket" was referring to the length. They sold the 1873 in Carbine, Sporter (similar to the 1873 in game) and Musket configurations, with the last being the traditional length of a full-size musket. They'd hoped to win military contracts with it but few were ever made, per Wikipedia
I learned that the musket bayonet variant also increases ammo capacity while bayonet variants just add the bayonet. Weird ik
@@Silver_7881That's because the capacity of the Winfield is based on the tube length, and the musket configuration is longer than the standard rifle. This allows it to fit several more rounds, while other bayonets are just attached to a standard size rifle.
The winchester varriant you see in game is the french cavalry contract lever rifle that was used to replace the special needle fire rifle they were using. The gun had to match the length of the gun they had as it was supposed to double as a bayonet lance system (which was deemed impractical a year after they received the contract guns). This would also not see a second request as it was better to switch the cavilry to the Berthier short rifle as it was home produced and was cheaper in that regard. The reason the Winchester was selected was because a fight which Russia took on about 1 year prior saw an entire company decimated by a 30 man horseback team of there opponent flanking them and firing all of there 7 shot tube into the Russian ranks causing them to rout with heavy casualties (keep in mind the Russians were still trying to use muskets). This Prompted Italy to also focus on a magazine style rifle right away, leading to Italy skipping from matchlocks to a 6 shot "stripper" fed bolt rifle when most nations didnt have a speed loading option yet selected for there idea.
Name wise for the bayonet is the fact the winchester company made the bayonet as well as 3 other companies, this leads to the bayonet on the winchester contract rifle being the same as the springfield and thus makes it hard to name without confusing the call out. Personally the Springfield has been long over due for the pointy bit, cant wait to have a chance of count a knife rush outside of my single shot :p
Dennis suggested that a reason for giving the Scottfield more ammo variants was to increase its pick rate, which seems odd to me because I see Scottfields all over the place but almost never the Pax. I guess the data says something different than my anecdote though!
Yeah I agree the pax needs more love not the scottfield 😂 but it's all good I guess
I see them often aswell
Exactly. I rarely see the Pax anymore, and get really frustrated to see the Scottfield keep getting more and more. We should have gotten a Pax Precision, not a scottfield precision
Didn't data show recently that the Scott field had a really high player kill count in the past few months?
I've been playing pax because I like the sights and fire rate
@@Adam31778 maybe not an higher killrate, but for sure an higher pickrate. The spitfire version is a good sidearm. But also duals do great things
2 slot uppercut with a deadeye scope and a crown and king sounds like a good time loadout to me
A new menacing loadout for sure
Crown and cringe
@@tobiasarnullriemann I didn't play during that time but that shits crazy 🤣
@@itscraig77 Clown and Cringe
its gonna be cool/horrible to face a hidden solo running a silenced dum dum gun
Edit: my original comment was misinformed since I thought you were referring to the Bornheim getting dum dum, which it's not, & you're actually referring to the Centennial getting dum dum. My bad.
original misinformed comment: might not be as threatening in practice as on paper. remember that putting dumdum on a pistol lowers the bullet velocity, and the silenced Bornheim is already going to have super low velocity. I wouldn't be shocked if the dumdum on it takes the velocity down to 200 m/s. For reference, that's less than the velocity of silenced Negant at 250
Silenced Winfield cent with dum dum is much more scary.
It will be interesting to see what happens with so many weapons getting dumdum and the event traits having a huge focus on health restoration. I feel like officer carbine with dumdum is going to be an absolute terror.
Infernal pact will be meta since it counters bleeding, burning and antidote prevents poison, so I think dumdum will be strong but 50% of people will play infernal so it won't work consistently, plus I doubt they will fix the no bleeding bug
I was thinking the same... terror
As a person who liked cheat death, I’m glade it’s not coming back this event. It was nice to rack up exp like that but I always felt it went against the spirit of the game and how you should be mindful of your decision making to get out rich or get out with as much of you left as possible. These new traits not only have some amazing artwork but are great ways to incentivize trying new things
I still want them to add a Savage 95/99 so bad. It was the first lever action rifle able to use spitzer ammo, as it has an 5 round internal magazine and not a tube. It's also a hammerless action, which is just beautiful. It was usually chambered in 303 savage which was a popular caliber back then for civilians.
Huge update though, lots to be excited for here!
Honestly, I'd love to see a Lee action, and have it function like the crag, but only be able to be reloaded by changing magazines. I'd be a long lee, so it would be 2 8-round magazines. Alternatively, they could go for the original Lee-Navy that used 5 round box magazines and was in 45-70. make it a medium gun with 3+1 detachable magazines that function like the Berthier.
Yeah, maybe also some Euro weapons: Carcano (6.5mm, should be medium) or Mauser 1895 (long ammo).
Oh yes, the Officer Carbine with Dum Dum, because it wasn't annoying enough already.
I guess in the end it won't really matter since the thing fires so fast and the aim punch caused by it is so bad you won't have time to shoot back or run to cover anyways.
skill issue
@@hazzy315nah
@@bigsmoke8816 found the other 3* 🤣
@@hazzy315 I'm 6 star actually
Kinda sounds like they're going too far in the other direction with flash bombs. Not being able to pick them up in game/loot off of other hunters is a bit much, the other nerfs seem to be enough to me.
I have encountered enemy flash bombs like maybe 10 times in 900 hours. And I got flashed like 5 times by them. It might be more of a catered nerf for very high elo players and streamers
@@johannesschmitz6370 I play 5-6 star and I see them all the time. The pick up rate for them from consumables boxes is probably the most frequent it seems. But it does seem like less experienced players hardly ever use them. They’ve probably flashed themselves before and are afraid of doing it again.
I’m my lobbies, a flash = a free kill. They could have just lowered the pick up rate. Changing it to where you HAVE to buy them makes no sense to me.
I’ve begged for pax high velocity and they give it to Scott field 😞
Kinda dislike how flash bombs no longer give you a hit marker when you flash someone but if the hunter still makes the pain sound when they are flashed it shouldn’t be too bad.
Also really wish the Pax got HV instead of the Scottie because now the Pax just doesn’t really seem all that worth taking over the Scottie. Centennial dum dum is going to be pretty interesting as it will most likely 1 shot players who’ve been downed once already unless they have super fast reactions and press and hold f the second they get hit
Springfield with HV is pretty cool tho I never really thought it needed it personally
Maybe I misheard but didn't he say that's only if you have bulwark? I guess a lot of people will take that trait now tho
i wish they'd let us get skins from past events. light the shadow: tomahawk and bayou phoenix
GOD DAMN PLAGUE DOCTOR
@@KuthGoblinCrytek really hit us with the "Sowwwwy :))) Plague Doctor isn't returning. Have some dumbasses who imitate scrapbeak or smth (it's a DLC btw)"
You don't deserve ELDOCTORE @@KuthGoblin
@@Deppie_____ maybe
@@KuthGoblin nuh uh, i went through hell getting without sleeping getting that stupid bird skin, he's mine alone
Scrapbeak has always been my favorite and I can’t wait for that bundle
bro thank you for taking the time to go over all this! cant wait to get on and hunt 2morrow!
good roundup,
thanks buddy.
keep your gunz blazing!
🔥💢🏍
Looks awesome! Thanks for the rundown from the Dev Stream!
Kinda crazy that they nerfed the flash multiple ways at once. IMO the slow priming would have been enough. Dev's seem to often go overboard with nerfs.
Thanks Crytech team! You doing greate work! Please dont stop, doing better and better this game!
They are going to have to make a change to bleed if everything is going to do bleed. I know there is the bloodless trait but if you have to patch on every hit then the game will slow down a lot if people keep having to patch themselves.
You already have to heal after being hit because you take damage
@@thesicknessism Not if you're ballsy and skilled. Bleed is a d.o.t. that can't be ignored for long.
@@thesicknessism If you are fighting someone from like 70 meters shooting a winnie then you can ignore the first 25 bar lost as you are only vulnerable to a HS kill at that range.
A musket is a type of weapon that shoots a lead ball which has to be directly fed into the barrel with gunpowder which was popular in the late 1600s and early 1700s. Just because something has a bayonet does not mean it should be called a musket, bayonets have been used on 1000s of weapons throughout history and to relocate them to just the American/French Revolutionary Wars is just silly lol. No reason it should be called a musket
Much appreciated, Home. Solid overview. Very useful to me 👍
I'm very excited about all these changes. The Flash change seems like a big nerf (which I'm "meh" on), but the ability to swap ammo types on the fly is awesome. The new weapons look crisp as well. I'm slightly concerned about all the ways they allow you to restore/regain a health chunk, but I'll reserve judgement until I play it for a bit. I'm glad Death Cheat isn't making a comeback this time around, it's great but removes the risk/reward calculus. Very glad the devs are listening :)
idk what mmr you’re in but high 5 & 6 star flashes are everywhere and completely broken. this feels like good enough, but we will see
I assume death cheat is next in line to be added to the core gameplay.
I *really* hope not. It removes the risk and reward element @@RayPace-r5g
I'm 3-4 star, so that's probably why@@lemoncarton3004
@@dylan_00 yeah you haven’t had to deal with the pain of being flashed for 5 seconds and being spammed at with a carbine hv or mosin spitz… not fun
Man that would be fire if they added the rolling block sniper.
Also if they added a musket. (Think about it 64. Cal round ball moving at 430 M/s…)
bullwork might just now become a must pick for me lol. Not too stoked for the pseudo pax nerf. Always felt like the Pax was a support type pistol to carry extra ammo cause it had the biggest variety to pick from. HV+dumdum medium on the Scoffield feels like the pax will be getting less picks now unless you really want extra poison. Which sucks cause Pax is my favorite sidearm lol, that's the only reason I went on this rant. Also sad Conduit is getting the reduced timer but I'm glad it buffs the whole team. Hope in the future we will see more perks that buff the team/teamplay items. Super stoked. Nee Veterli animation looks dope and clean
Thanks saved me last 2 brain cells some energy.
I'll try flashbang when the update comes out but if I have no feedback that they are flashed it will be added to my useless tools list. Conduit time will be reduced? What for? So we can spend more time in a running simulation in slow motion? I don't understand who they are trying to please. Where do they get the feedback from? The rain map was stunning and awesome but i don't see that many playing it. They should do surveys asking stuff to the players that actually play this game regularly.
I think that uppercut sinks definetely the obrez category: much more precise gun for medium-long range, with a deadeye option that could be spicy. no perks required. Imho they should balance it alla just lowering of 100 dollars the price of basic uppercut and the new variants but putting them in a 2 slot for basic one and 3 slot for the long ones. Maybe more range and ok. But in this way the definetely kill the mosin obrez variant. Why should you run them, if you have a much more stable gun that costs more but is so much more reliable? The uppercut is the best pistol in the game, above bornheim for the versatility (ammo pool for long ammo and ranged option for shotguns). With this it gets even more "buff".
I'm not a fan of semi-auto rifles being added to the game, but I'll wait to see.
Great mindset!
Tbf, the officer carbine and krag are half way there. x)
There's quite a few fast shooting weapons. So there's a downside in any case.
Sounds like skill issues.
@@Dultus Yeah, but those do less than 125 damage. I just feel like the cyclone doing more than 125 would be annoying to fight against. Which is why I said I would wait and see.
Hopefully, the kick from it will negate the overuse.
Great overview home! 🔥
Not sure im down for everything having dumdum ammo...
Small correction, conduit will only work for other teammates who also have conduit
NOOOOOoooo!..... I can't believe they added scottfield high velocity ammo before the pax! C'mon, the pax has been waiting for something for so long... and they give something cool to the scottfield again... I think someone on the team just really loves that gun.
I think i'm gonna sit this one out.
Crytek literally went "okay fuck balance let's do this" and proceeded to add the most busted stuff to the game.
I am NOT looking forward to fighting solos that can't burn, can't bleed and refill their health constantly on kill.
Same, I think I won't be playing this event, the last one was exhausting as fuck already and this one seems even worse.
Been calling foul on the flashbomb for years. The subreddit would downvote me to hell anytime I'd criticize its balance: "Just run away", "Use your own flashbomb to counter", "Memorize the building and just run away while blind", "If they're in the game, they're balanced. Get good". The cope was insane, but anyone with 2 brain cells and a critical eye for game balance could realize it was absolutely busted. No warning, instant explosion, and 5 seconds of blindness is actually ridiculous. Crazy that it hasn't been fixed all these years, and NEVER felt fair to fight against.
Pretty much a death sentence to get hit with one in high mmr. They absolutely needed a rework. Anybody saying otherwise just liked to abuse them.
All shotguns need flare shots so that you have by that ammo box less cheances to get slugs
So what causes Shadow to burn out? Previously there was no activation for it.
They confirmed it burns upon being downed
So as long as you extract you’ll have it.
death, so it doesn't matter if you have 3 or 1 stack in case if you never get picked up or self-resurrected
A Musket variant (in Hunt terms) would have a longer barrel and a bayonet, this is just a "normal" Springfield with a bayonet - hence the Springfield Bayonet and not Musket.
Would love to see Gator Legs receive a buff by affecting Water Devil aggro range or something to nerf Water Devils, as it is a perk I feel is chosen very infrequently. I hate Water Devils and would love a reason to take the perk more often.
Maybe I’m not the greatest hunter but I take Gator Legs fairly often 🤷
So now we have solo's that are harder to burn and imunne to bleed. Meaning concertina traps and lanterns are no longer an answer to self revive.
I can't see what could go wrong with this.
Gonna have to up your situational awareness
At the very least, it's not paired with death cheat. I'm hoping concertina will at least still do a decent bit of damage.
Simple. Solo necro needs a nerf or highway
Concertina should still “slow” them down and do damage. It just doesn’t bleed them
springfield high velo is going to be awesome! im hoping for more than 600m/s. Also spitfire with high velo will be sooo good to make it a viable pair with shotguns for those of us who have a hard time leading shots.
I think the Springfield is the most left behind gun. Just because its cheap doesn't mean you shouldn't have options. It's one of the most punishing guns to miss with. At least the baynet variant will help make it more viable. I hope the highspeed is at least 615 to 630ms because it makes no sense that a Drilling has a faster normal bullet speed.
@@dantheman1998 nah, not that punishing. Its reload's half of the time of the spark. Have a good special ammo options. Highspeed going to make it busted, with the scottfield ammo pool, expecially on marksman version.
@@eazyez5717 better skill ceilling than the sparks but it still is medium ammo, if you dont headshot you deal nothing
@@dantheman1998 honestly the springfield is pretty good already IF you use dumdum ammo. it has high accuracy, little sway and the reload is as fast as chambering the next shot on a specter. Its juts not really viable with normal ammo and at longer rangers. Bayonett will be sick though because of the musket look.
@eurghunner I've had maybe 2 kills from bleeding out with 100s of hits with the Springfield and Dumdum. You get hunters to take cover but it never seems to get that much value. I thought it inflicting heavy bleed would change.....not so much. Never got a kill with the heavy bleeding.
This is so hype ! I rly like the changes !!!
Oh wow they actually added one of those bolt action semi auto conversions
I don't get why they nerfed flash bombs I have never once been flashed
I have a lot of questions about that new ammo box. Is it guaranteed to be at every supply point? Can it be used by two people? Does it always restock to full even if you're completely out of bullets? Can I use it if I only brought regular ammo and get free custom ammo?
If you have dual brawlers you should be able to melee a lot faster and with both hands for light attacks
The regeneration shot with the trait vigor will be fun
Holy moly Spring with High velocity
I like to use Springfield and its getting 2 good upgrates right out of the bat
Neet
OOh it will be nice to get 10x in a row Bleeding/Fire Damage Quest and everyone is running Infernal
Felt like we need a pax variant with a longer barrel. Not a precision just a longer barrel version of the pax like the size of the Conversion or standard uppercut
Oh wow these are actually interesting gameplay changes
From what I'm seeing, Rampage doesn't restore health chunks, it just heals you for damage taken?
May be wrong tho
Ive heen saying custom ammo boxes for so damn long, about time we can use special ammo in quickplay (soul survivor)
This game and community are amazing.
Shadow returning permanently is music to my ears 🙌🏻
Awesome for solo
You got me with the flashbomb clickbate, thanks for the summary. Looking forward to the changes
Creativity/gameplay/balance = we do our best and it shows!
Matchmaking = we have no clue, send help
Not just that but dealing with hackers. Useless.
They are dealing with both this coming year. Watch the roadmap please
Shadow as a real and not event exclusive (burn) trait? i mean, its not like shadow renders hive bombs usless, it also gives a massiv advantage in fights.
Hope the "burn trait" function of this is "if your hunter leaves the match either with a bounty, without or dead, the trait will be gone."
I have seen so many traits in these events that would be a good addition to the trait roaster, but not shadow, its the only trait so far i would call op. it also completly removes the pve aspect of the game.
Either way, thank you for this summary.
So excited to play these new updates in just a couple of days!
Dont like the nagant and Scottfield getting the caldwell and pac (respectively) special ammo types. Less reason to pick those two guns...
sometimes i ask myself if we reallyty need all this variants and then i end up using them a lot so im excited, just hope the pax gets something soon, although im happy with it as it is so its not such a big deal
i do want a new damage type the most though
maybe a freezing type of damage since the new map sounds like it atleast, will deal with colder areas (dont quote me on this)
you won't find a higher 5 or 6 star lobby running anything other than the Precison uppercut in matches with QM.
Why did they ever add it lol
Itd be cool to get another beetle that drops the rotjaw slime on the ground for a few seconds
They did flash bomb dirty, i love it
Dark Sight brought me here.
Poor Pax. :(
I think the only two special ammo I bring now is high velocity and poison as these traits render dumdum and fire ammo almost useless. :D
Dude I'm so pumped for the semi auto vetterli
Pretty please give the Pax some love.
Nice i like events but the guns i wish for exemple they would add perk called slam fire for pump action shotguns or atleast the slate and add some new weapon not only variants even tho they are cool
I'm confused on how Shadow can be a burn trait and how it can "stack"? What's the requirement for the trait to burn off? Entering aggro range? Getting hit by AI?
Love the berthier marksman. Would love it even more, if you would put the scope on the rifle like it is on martini henry marksman 🤙
Finally starshell meta
i think that for springfield bayonet would be called a musket only if it had a longer barrel, could be wrong tho
Thank you for the spark notes version. Pumped
Bornheim already my favorite added ammo is great
What about loadout slots? We keeping getting a ton of new tools and weapons, but not enough loadout slots to quickly use them.
I barely ever spend money on the game and I have 11 slots just from blood tribute alone. Only 200hr player. I maybe use half of them regularly. How are you using more than 10 loadouts lol?
@@ep69420 I have 1300hrs and enjoy playing for fun and not meta. I like thematic builds or build revolving around particular weapons. I have a build for light, medium, long, silent, dead-eye, a poison build, fire build, traps,and breaching through doors. That's not including trying to make a build for all the new stuff that they have already added and will add.
And the old twitch dropps skins, Please release lulu again
I loved the nerf on flashbang man ❤
They didnt reveal the cleaver? It looks like a big knife but on the last clip they uploaded you can see a guy throwing it
love those changes
they should make the verterlli semi auto special ammo. It would make sense, since the normal black power load would fowl the gas recoil spring cylinder thing.
Is there a new wild target with this event?
It wasn’t mentioned, so probably not.
Do you know when the next wild target is expected?
Fire beetle? Okay I’ll play again. lol 😆 I can’t wait.
Small gameplay/gun nut rant. The scotfeild was based irl off the schofeild revolver. .45 schofeild was weaker that .45 colt because the schofeild couldnt handel the power. Game rant give the Pax high vel so it has more use i love the pax but scottfeild spitfire or swift are better ish
Do we know if the Halloween Questlines are returning? I really want to unlock Mama Maye
I don't think so, they would overlap with the event quests and would be pretty akward. Tho it would be cool to be able to get Mama Maye for us who missed her
Questlines not coming, confirmed by a twitch chat moderator, could be coming with twitch drops though
Thank you for the wrap-up, highly appreciate thise videos from you for years now.
Ok the event - all great but i really cannot understand the flashbang changes. They will almost disappear from the game now i assume (sounds like a huge nerf all in all)
crazy update I love it!
The flashbomb nerfs confuse me as it's probably the least reliable throwable in the game
been asking for the Springfield bayonet for years now.
Too bad I dropped the game a while ago, really would've enjoyed it mid 2020
So, is the bornheim silencer a single shot like the welrod? I saw 1/15 for ammo pool.
Oh yeah I didn't notice that. Strange...
Mistyped, it's 5/15
i was so excited then i realized that i work double on october 4th. RIP
They really went to town on those flash nerfs. Don't think they'll be worth taking anymore.
I'm excited. can't wait
Rip UpperMat
Still no Dragons breath for the Crown n’ King which is just crazy to me. Like we got a Uppercut Precision Deadeye, which I’m pretty sure was suggested as a Joke! But Dragons breath Crown is just too much??
It realistically wouldn't work. DB rounds don't have the kick to fully cycle the bolt and chamber the next round, meaning you'd have to manually rack the bolt each time.
@@anotherreloadanimator9701 the *Derringer* can kill a man standing 60 meters away with 1 bullet, I don’t wanna hear about that realism bullshit
Thank God no Instinct or Death Cheat. I am also very happy about the Flare Gun and Derringers getting ammo resupplied through boxes because that means I only have to get mad at toolboxes giving me a single throwing knife instead of a medkit.
I said all these changes awhile back im so happy about conduit changes and world special ammo but i wonder if i come in with a specific ammo type and make it normal ammo if i dont want the ammo i have
Flashbomb nerf is completely uneccesary. They're never used to behin with and the people who bitch about it get killed maybe once a week at most by them because "It's a cheap kill!".