"Daydream Believer" is a classic. I'll bet those other groups are kicking themselves for passing on it! Every time I hear it I can't help but sing along. It's just one of those great songs.
I think sometimes and idea just needs the right person to give it that little something to bring it to life. The Carpenters did the same thing with 'Close To You' and a few other songs that are memorable to the baby boomers.
Ya, it was a great song but if any other group or even Micky had sung the song it likely wouldn't have been what it was. I think the song and Davy complemented each other.
My wife and I had tickets to see Davey Jones at the La Mirada theater in So Cal. He died unexpectedly shortly before that performance. RIP Davey. I also had the pleasure of meeting Peter Tork at the NAMM before he passed.
Wow awesome story!! 😄 Big Monkees fan to this day!! 🖒 But in the sixties huge teenager crush on Davey!! 💖 Saw them in concert and NEVER missed the show!!! Davey posters on the wall and had the blue and white bead necklace like his!!! 😉 Won a Monkees album from a local radio station!!! Still have it along with all the other Monkees albums!!! 🎶 Loved Daydream Believer but who didn't!!! Such wonderful memories!! 😙 So heartbreaking we have lost three of them!! 😓💔 RIP Davey 💕 RIP Peter 💕 RIP Mike 💕 Thanks for all the great music!! 🎤🎶🎹🎸
You are not the only one who had a massive crush on Davey. I didn't think any guy could replace him in my heart of hearts, but then Bobby Sherman came along. Once again, I was smitten.
I appreciate your thoroughness and conciseness in telling the stories. You are a very good story teller, which, being known as a story teller myself, is the best recognition we can get!
Thanks for the view and the comment, Shirley! And..Every generation thinks that their music is the best, but we win LOL. The next closest genre for me is the Big Band era.
“Bye Bye Love” - written by the husband and wife songwriting team Boudleaux and Felice Bryant - had been offered to many Nashville artists and turned down before it was offered to the Everly Brothers. They recorded it in 1957 and it went to #2 on the charts. It was their first million selling record.
I loved “Bye Bye Love.” Still hum it. Almost everyone in my life is gone now but the memories linger. I was one of those kids who sang into a hair brush and wrote songs myself that everyone sang on the school bus. LOL. My husband passed away a decade ago and he knew the lyrics to every song ever written. He could join in progress. ☺️ My parents were the same way. I can only guess it’s because songs had meaning. Music lives forever. There’s no mention that I can find, but I often wonder if Jesus ever sang….or did he just wait for Elvis to come along to sing gospel.
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Hey! Thanks for the watch! I liked the melody and chord progression of both this song and “Pleasant Valley Sunday”, and mostly ignored the lyrics when I was a kid.
Another song that was passed on by many groups and singers, was ‘Get Together’ it was done by ‘We Five’, but later, it eventually became a huge hit by ‘The Youngbloods’ with Jesse Colin Young’ Keep up the good work
My favorite Monkees song, "Valleri", came close to number 1 (#3), after "Daydream Believer", on Billboard in the spring of "68. Cashbox, Billboards competition, took Valleri to number one for 2 weeks.
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I LOVE stories like this. Thanks for bringing it to the world. Similar things such as Doris Day thinking that Que Sera Sera would never be a hit and I think she recorded it rather reluctantly. The rest is history.
I played this song over and over on my little record player. I just loved still love this song and Davy Jones. He was my first crush too. So many firsts for a 7 year old.
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Well done!! I loved the Kingston Trio and followed them from their beginning in the late 1950s (Tijuana Jail) and already knew that John Stewart wrote this awesome song.
But there was another song Stewart wrote which he absolutely hated. However, his record company forced him to record and release it because they thought it might be a hit. They were right. The song was called "Gold" and, in 1979, it reached #5 on the charts. One thing that boosted its popularity was the presence of his back up singer: Stevie Nicks
Man, your voice and delivery are great. What a refreshing change of pace from all this AI crap! You must have years of experience in voiceover and, I'm guessing, live DJ time. Thanks. Looking forward to more music history.
I have a background in all those and thought the exact same thing that you state here the first time I viewed his work. Great research/knowledge, great voice, great style also.
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I just found your channel and I'm very glad I did. The lack of musical snobbery allows room for facts and not the usual music industry chit chat. Excellent job on a short video so I'm happy to subscribe. Oh yeah, as for the song; when you've got a hook like Stewart wrote along with guys like Boyce and Hart it's impossible to get out of your head upon hearing it which brings me to the main point: Never listen to a record company's point of view. Write what you know.
I love this song and I love the story behind it. I love to know this kind of stuff, in every and each song, what happens since development, the ups and downs and eventually the final results, just like this song with The Monkees. Thanks for sharing. Nice program. Joe Silva, at the city of Vila Velha, State of Espirito Santo, Brazil
Thanks for the video regarding this song. Song's that become hit's are like "magic taking place" and it makes one wonder how does it happen that no one liked the song and yet when it came to the Monkees it was like no problem this was a hit "in disguise". It makes one wonder how that happens.
It’s all in how the production ingredients are done, and how the vocals mesh with the instruments. The talent is a big difference, but the producer can drastically change the final result.
Ok, mind blown🤯😂 Fascinating story!! And the fact that it included my darling Monkees, precious childhood memories, and one of my all time favorite songs to this day.....well, simply amazing!! Made my day, thank you❤
'Ruby - don't take your love to town. It wasn't me that started that old crazy Asian war, but i was proud to do my patriotic chore....' Remember the lyrics? It was written about the Korean war, but that was considered a 'patriotic' war. Nobody wanted to hear about a paraplegic victim. Kenny Rogers' career was drifting in the 1970's, his best successes were behind him. He recorded 'Ruby', & it all seemed to fit with the Viet Nam war. The song - & Kenny's career - was revitalised
My Dad was a big Kingston Trio and John Stewart fan, so I heard a lot of Stewart's solo stuff as a little kid. He's a really good songwriter, with a stronger inclination toward story-songs than "Sleepy Jean" would suggest.
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Thank you for your superb delivery. It's amazing how often similar things happen. Freddy Fender apparently hated recording (or covering, to be precise) Before the next teardrop falls, but it became a No.1. Maggie May was regarded as a throwaway by Rod Stewart - and supposedly Everybody's talkin' was written hastily by Fred Neil at the end of a session for no reason other than that one more track was needed for an album!
Same with Black Sabbath's "Paranoid". They needed one last song for the album and Ozzie Osbourne knocked it off in 15 minutes. It was to becomes the fan's favourite song...
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As a long-time and steadfast Kingston Trio fan, I was aware of this story, but THANK YOU for choosing it and telling it so well! I believe Daydream Believer was the Monkees' biggest hit, and Anne Murray's later version was very nice, also.
As a fan of the Monkees, I watched all of their shows as they first aired back in the 60s.....Daydream Believer was my favorite Monkee song back then and still today....I was just playing that song a couple of weeks ago on the paino.
I like your presentation and delivery of your videos. It's very interesting, not too long and not short either. The background is quiet. No unnecessary music. Very good video. Thank you.
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1. Chip Douglas was an original member of the pop group, the TURTLES. He was also the producer for the group's huge hit, "Happy Together." He was now a very valuable commodity within the industry. Chip left the TURTLES to work on the MONKEES' next album, "HEADQUARTERS." (Douglas would return to the TURTLES for a short while.) 2. Chip Douglas was not "developing music for the MONKEES' second season." On the contrary, he was the producer of the MONKEES' 3rd LP, which was their FIRST album done on their own, showing they were a REAL BAND. 3. BTW, this Chip Douglas was NOT the character, "Chip Douglas," on the television show, "MY THREE SONS!" 4. [More to follow?]..........
Chip was not an original Turtle, Chuck Portz was the original bass player and was with the band until 1966. Douglas stayed long enough to prove he was a producer r(Producers make big money)
I believe Chip (before the Turtles) was a member of the Modern Folk Quartet who also had Henry Tad Diltz as a member. Diltz became a renowned photographer for great, iconic album covers like Crosby, Stills, and Nash's cover on the porch of an old house and many more. He also did most of John Stewart's album covers!!
Great focused discussion. John Stewart "played" Elvis Presley for my elementary school Roosevelt in Pomona CA, his mother knew mine and the PTA put on a show with him as a small element, but I recall him signing autographs, don't know what he signed.
I caught the series when it first aired. It was a fascinating lesson in marketing, and I still remember Monkeemania. At one time, for a short time, that group could demand more for a concert venue than any other act in the biz.
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Was lucky to finally see the Monkees in London in 2011 been a fan since I was 13 and stuck in hospital for 10 months it was the highlight of the week for us to watch their tv show
I am glad I came across you, and ,yes, I did Subscribe. Maybe you came up because I tune into the Professor of Rock Channel, and have been looking up early seventies songs this evening. Oops, it's 5:30 in the morning! I guess "time keeps on slipping slipping into the future".
That's a common misconception that got a little grease on that fire when Davy Jones was asked to appear at a U2 concert date in the 1990s. They performed "Daydream Believer" together, but U2 guitarist Edge Evans credited Neil Diamond for composing the song when they were through performing it. It became a nice little pop fluff piece in the press that whole weekend.
Neil Diamond wrote I'm A Believer. Both songs have the word "believer" in them, so maybe that's where the confusion comes from. Daydream Believer was OK, but I'm A Believer was much, much better.
Love your channel. So many songs that I remember. And you tell a really good story!!! The Monkees !!!! Ahhh, yes. . . I just can’t believe the song was Daydream Believer. You built that story soo well. :) - a simple song, but a really good one! And Davey didn’t want to do it??!!!! That poor song. I wonder how many other good songs have hit the dust bin?
That was a fascinating story. I am a huge Kingston Trio fan, and have one of John Stewart's solo albums as well. My wife met one of the Monkees (I can't remember which one) at a party in the late 60s.
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I love this kind of stuff. I remember reading about John Stewart when he released the song "Gold" back in 1980 (I think). So when you mentioned The Monkees, I had a pretty good feeling it was "Daydream Believer." Always liked The Monkees and John wrote some pretty big hits throughout his life. You mentioned the We 5 in this story, maybe you could find out some stuff about them, like where they're from. I won't mention it here in case you do a piece on them. Groups from their homeland weren't very common back in the 60's.
They will have a piece, at least one, but no time soon. Other stuff in the hopper for upcoming weeks. Unless I get a hankering to go ahead with them early. Thanks for the view and the sub, Bill!
John Stewart's brother Michael was actually in the group We Five who had the hit with You were on my Mind. Kingston Trio manager Frank Werber was also managing the We Five at the time. They more or less never had as big a hit as their first song again.
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Oh my gosh, I can remember the very first time I heard Daydream Believer! I was 12 years old, hanging out in our backyard and I was listening to my little metally sounding transistor radio, when the song came on for the very first time. I knew it was a new song from the Monkees and being the big fan I was, started to jump up and down with massive excitement. Wow, this was 56 years ago! Where has the time gone?
Just wanted you to know how much I enjoy your videos, particularly your "Five Things You Didn't Know About..." series. Thank you for your dedication to factual information.
Great story! I always assumed it was a Boyce and Hart(sp) song. This is one of those timeless songs. You hear it 30 years later - good song! And it has that hook - you know it.
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@@pommie5093 Ha! Frankly, they made the right call, IMHO. The line as originally written was “ Now you know how FUNKY we can be” Seriously? Thanks for the participation!
No way! That is one of my favorite songs ever!! I do agree that Now you know how happy I can be would work better than, I know how funky I can be? Yeah. Glad that they changed it and recorded it. I can't imagine anyone else singing it.
Actually to me, thinking about it, "funky" does make more sense with the lyric idea of that verse. But I think it would stick out because it doesn't really "sing" as well in the musical style of the song. "Happy" is kind of bland and cliché as a lyric, but it fits into the sound more.
I've been trying to remember a not well known song that was playing on the radio for a little while in Las Vegas in about 1966 or 1967 which had a lyric including a "milk factory?" I remember the time as being before I started watching Star Trek as a new show, and before the 6 Day War.
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'Ole Audiophile to Theguitartrooper: I've heard a bunch of stories like this. The one that sticks to me was by the popular group The Doobie Brothers. Upon release of their fourth studio album, a single was selected & the 45 hit the market. Nothing... or what seemed like it. two more singles were then produced & released. Little response. About then, folks started stirring about the b side of the first single. So then the fourth single was re-released but the b side became the a side. Bingo! Huge hit! That song was 'Black Water'. One for all & all for one, good luck in your ventures, sir. Thanx
Nice to hear from you! Yeah. - WB was desperate to get a hit out of this group after the initial lackluster results. They’d try anything to get a revenue stream going from the Doobies, hence the re-release.
@@the_guitar_trooperThe big secret from that album was that Daughters Of The Sea was by far the best track from that album, it just takes a few listens.
"Daydream Believer" is a classic. I'll bet those other groups are kicking themselves for passing on it! Every time I hear it I can't help but sing along. It's just one of those great songs.
Same here. One of my favorites.
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I think sometimes and idea just needs the right person to give it that little something to bring it to life. The Carpenters did the same thing with 'Close To You' and a few other songs that are memorable to the baby boomers.
Ya, it was a great song but if any other group or even Micky had sung the song it likely wouldn't have been what it was. I think the song and Davy complemented each other.
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My wife and I had tickets to see Davey Jones at the La Mirada theater in So Cal. He died unexpectedly shortly before that performance. RIP Davey. I also had the pleasure of meeting Peter Tork at the NAMM before he passed.
Peter seemed to be a very down-to-earth soul, based upon the interview videos that I have seen.
Daydream Believer was an awesome song - Davy Jones was perfect for it. Now it will be days for me to get that song out of my head.
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I was a senior in HS when "daydream" came out. I was lucky enough to date our homecoming queen. So it meant a lot to me and still does.
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I swear to God. That was just perfect. Good info, good voice, damn good timing. Good subject matter. Yeah old guys rule
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A wonderful song! It was a hit for Anne Murray, too!
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"I'm a Believer" that "Daydream Believer" was a hit. Nice job, sir!
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Wow awesome story!! 😄 Big Monkees fan to this day!! 🖒 But in the sixties huge teenager crush on Davey!! 💖 Saw them in concert and NEVER missed the show!!! Davey posters on the wall and had the blue and white bead necklace like his!!! 😉 Won a Monkees album from a local radio station!!! Still have it along with all the other Monkees albums!!! 🎶 Loved Daydream Believer but who didn't!!! Such wonderful memories!! 😙 So heartbreaking we have lost three of them!! 😓💔
RIP Davey 💕
RIP Peter 💕
RIP Mike 💕
Thanks for all the great music!! 🎤🎶🎹🎸
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You are not the only one who had a massive crush on Davey. I didn't think any guy could replace him in my heart of hearts, but then Bobby Sherman came along. Once again, I was smitten.
@@elizabetholiviaclark yeah. You and my wife both. Was he REALLY that cute?? LOL
I appreciate your thoroughness and conciseness in telling the stories. You are a very good story teller, which, being known as a story teller myself, is the best recognition we can get!
Wow, thank you! Those long firms take a lot of production time but I do enjoy creating them.
Missing the music of our youth! 😢😢Hope it comes back so younger generations can enjoy these great songs!😂😊❤❤❤
Thanks for the view and the comment, Shirley! And..Every generation thinks that their music is the best, but we win LOL.
The next closest genre for me is the Big Band era.
I'm 65 and I still have a cassette from the monkeys "daydream believer" on it! 💖
The bigger question is: Do you have a stereo cassette PLAYER?! Lol!
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unfortunately no but workin on one (like the one in guardians of the galaxy) 🙂@@the_guitar_trooper
“Bye Bye Love” - written by the husband and wife songwriting team Boudleaux and Felice Bryant - had been offered to many Nashville artists and turned down before it was offered to the Everly Brothers. They recorded it in 1957 and it went to #2 on the charts. It was their first million selling record.
Thanks for the post and view! That song is in the Shorts production queue to be scheduled.
The Bryant's also wrote Love Hurts which The Everly Bros recorded but never released as a single.
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I loved “Bye Bye Love.” Still hum it. Almost everyone in my life is gone now but the memories linger. I was one of those kids who sang into a hair brush and wrote songs myself that everyone sang on the school bus. LOL. My husband passed away a decade ago and he knew the lyrics to every song ever written. He could join in progress. ☺️ My parents were the same way. I can only guess it’s because songs had meaning. Music lives forever.
There’s no mention that I can find, but I often wonder if Jesus ever sang….or did he just wait for Elvis to come along to sing gospel.
@@arlenejoan6209Great post, Arlene! By the way, the video for Bye, Bye Love is in production now for this weekend!
I really like this song, but never knew it's history That was fascinating, thank you.
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I never gave much credit to the Monkees, but now that I'm older I really appreciate how beautiful Daydream Believer is.
Hey! Thanks for the watch!
I liked the melody and chord progression of both this song and “Pleasant Valley Sunday”, and mostly ignored the lyrics when I was a kid.
I'm of that age where I had this record as a 45. I still enjoy listening to it. (Not the 45 it's long gone).
I had my sister's albums. And that was when I was 10 years old.
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Another song that was passed on by many groups and singers, was ‘Get Together’ it was done by ‘We Five’, but later, it eventually became a huge hit by ‘The Youngbloods’ with Jesse Colin Young’
Keep up the good work
Thanks as always, Paul! Will do!
I have to find the Wee Five version. I thought the Youngbloods was the original. Thanks
Get Together was on the 1964 live Kingston Trio Capitol LP, "Back In Town".
Thanks Dave you are an excellent music historian. I never get tired of learning and listening
My favorite Monkees song, "Valleri", came close to number 1 (#3), after "Daydream Believer", on Billboard in the spring of "68. Cashbox, Billboards competition, took Valleri to number one for 2 weeks.
Oh, how I remember that blazing guitar solo from Louie Shelton. At the time, I thought that Mike Nesmith was doing it.
Valleri is and interesting song
What a cool channel you have.....Bravo
Thank you very much! Don't forget that I'm always open to subject suggestions concerning pop music (of any ilk) from the 1950's to the 1970's
Great musical history lesson! Love these “Rest of the Story” surprise ending type tales!
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I LOVE stories like this. Thanks for bringing it to the world. Similar things such as Doris Day thinking that Que Sera Sera would never be a hit and I think she recorded it rather reluctantly. The rest is history.
Glad you enjoyed it! More on the way
I played this song over and over on my little record player. I just loved still love this song and Davy Jones. He was my first crush too. So many firsts for a 7 year old.
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I own several of john Stewart's albums and played them often. He wrote some great songs that deserved a wider audiences.
He was rather obscure to me. And he had 40 or so albums! I just never listened to him. Thanks for the comment!
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Well done!! I loved the Kingston Trio and followed them from their beginning in the late 1950s (Tijuana Jail) and already knew that John Stewart wrote this awesome song.
And Thanks again!
But there was another song Stewart wrote which he absolutely hated. However, his record company forced him to record and release it because they thought it might be a hit. They were right. The song was called "Gold" and, in 1979, it reached #5 on the charts. One thing that boosted its popularity was the presence of his back up singer: Stevie Nicks
Excellent entry! Thanks!
That's is another great song.
It was a true stinker
I loved that song. Lindsay and Stevie helped him with that. Also, the follow up Midnight Wind.
I understand why he disliked the song. It is annoying.
Daydream Believer?! Wow. Anne Murray recorded it later. That must have helped him too!
I’m sure that the license extended for her version as well. Thanks for watching!
Man, your voice and delivery are great.
What a refreshing change of pace from all this AI crap!
You must have years of experience in voiceover and, I'm guessing, live DJ time.
Thanks. Looking forward to more music history.
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I have a background in all those and thought the exact same thing that you state here the first time I viewed his work. Great research/knowledge, great voice, great style also.
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I love that song -- I was a big Monkees fan already when it came out. Great story!
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Great song, and a karaoke favourite. Timeless.
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I just found your channel and I'm very glad I did. The lack of musical snobbery allows room for facts and not the usual music industry chit chat. Excellent job on a short video so I'm happy to subscribe.
Oh yeah, as for the song; when you've got a hook like Stewart wrote along with guys like Boyce and Hart it's impossible to get out of your head upon hearing it which brings me to the main point: Never listen to a record company's point of view. Write what you know.
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I love this song and I love the story behind it.
I love to know this kind of stuff, in every and each song, what happens since development, the ups and downs and eventually the final results, just like this song with The Monkees.
Thanks for sharing. Nice program.
Joe Silva, at the city of Vila Velha, State of Espirito Santo, Brazil
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I love Daydream Believer.
And with my limited ability strumming the guitar, I still accompany myself singing it.
Yeah!!! Rock on!
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Thankyou for this well spun music tale.
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What an interesting story. I’d love to see more longer videos like this.
Glad you enjoyed it! Production time is the biggest constraint, but I intend to use the long form vids more often as time permits.
Thanks for the video regarding this song. Song's that become hit's are like "magic taking place" and it makes one wonder how does it happen that no one liked the song and yet when it came to the Monkees it was like no problem this was a hit "in disguise". It makes one wonder how that happens.
It’s all in how the production ingredients are done, and how the vocals mesh with the instruments. The talent is a big difference, but the producer can drastically change the final result.
That's a beautiful slice of 60s pop history I didn't know, about one of my fave songs.
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Ok, mind blown🤯😂
Fascinating story!! And the fact that it included my darling Monkees, precious childhood memories, and one of my all time favorite songs to this day.....well, simply amazing!! Made my day, thank you❤
Ditto!
I loved the Monkees and Hoyt Axton.
@@lisalarouge6309 Thanks for the view, Lisa!
I love "Daydream Believer"! I liked to see Davy Jones dancing to this song! Thanks for the background on this great song!
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Daydream Believer is the best Monkees song ever...love it. No one could've done it like Davy...he nailed it.😊
I, too, like "Daydream Believer." I have a CD of the Monkees greatest hits and I listen to it a lot. They had great harmony.
It was where we found out that Micky Dolenz a.k.a. “the circus boy” was a great pop singer!
'Ruby - don't take your love to town. It wasn't me that started that old crazy Asian war, but i was proud to do my patriotic chore....' Remember the lyrics? It was written about the Korean war, but that was considered a 'patriotic' war. Nobody wanted to hear about a paraplegic victim. Kenny Rogers' career was drifting in the 1970's, his best successes were behind him. He recorded 'Ruby', & it all seemed to fit with the Viet Nam war. The song - & Kenny's career - was revitalised
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Fascinating! It is one of their greatest songs! Though my personal favourite is
THE GIRL THAT I KNEW SOMEWHERE!
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Great song written by Mike Nesmith. One of my favourite Monkee songs too.
My Dad was a big Kingston Trio and John Stewart fan, so I heard a lot of Stewart's solo stuff as a little kid. He's a really good songwriter, with a stronger inclination toward story-songs than "Sleepy Jean" would suggest.
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Thank you for your superb delivery. It's amazing how often similar things happen. Freddy Fender apparently hated recording (or covering, to be precise) Before the next teardrop falls, but it became a No.1. Maggie May was regarded as a throwaway by Rod Stewart - and supposedly Everybody's talkin' was written hastily by Fred Neil at the end of a session for no reason other than that one more track was needed for an album!
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Same with Black Sabbath's "Paranoid". They needed one last song for the album and Ozzie Osbourne knocked it off in 15 minutes. It was to becomes the fan's favourite song...
Thanks for the history lesson! I had no idea. I'm glad to see a songwriter get his due.
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Nice. John Stewart is one of my all time favorite singer/songwriters. Glad to see he's getting some recogniztion.
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As a long-time and steadfast Kingston Trio fan, I was aware of this story, but THANK YOU for choosing it and telling it so well! I believe Daydream Believer was the Monkees' biggest hit, and Anne Murray's later version was very nice, also.
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As a fan of the Monkees, I watched all of their shows as they first aired back in the 60s.....Daydream Believer was my favorite Monkee song back then and still today....I was just playing that song a couple of weeks ago
on the paino.
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I like your presentation and delivery of your videos. It's very interesting, not too long and not short either. The background is quiet. No unnecessary music. Very good video. Thank you.
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1. Chip Douglas was an original member of the pop group, the TURTLES. He was also the producer for the group's huge hit, "Happy Together." He was now a very valuable commodity within the industry. Chip left the TURTLES to work on the MONKEES' next album, "HEADQUARTERS."
(Douglas would return to the TURTLES for a short while.)
2. Chip Douglas was not "developing music for the MONKEES' second season."
On the contrary, he was the producer of the MONKEES' 3rd LP, which was their FIRST album done on their own, showing they were a REAL BAND.
3. BTW, this Chip Douglas was NOT the character, "Chip Douglas," on the television show, "MY THREE SONS!"
4. [More to follow?]..........
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Chip was not an original Turtle, Chuck Portz was the original bass player and was with the band until 1966. Douglas stayed long enough to prove he was a producer r(Producers make big money)
ELEANOR was a huge hit for the Turtles...loved that song.
I believe Chip (before the Turtles) was a member of the Modern Folk Quartet who also had Henry Tad Diltz as a member. Diltz became a renowned photographer for great, iconic album covers like Crosby, Stills, and Nash's cover on the porch of an old house and many more. He also did most of John Stewart's album covers!!
This video to me seemed like a video version of Paul Harvey's radio show "The Rest of the Story". Thoroughly enjoyed it. Subscribed and liked. 👍
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Wow! That is so interesting! I saw the Monkees in concert many years ago. The Fifth Dimension was their warm up group! They were awesome!
The industry had no respect for them, at least at first. Understandable, but they had the talent to drive the music too.
Great focused discussion. John Stewart "played" Elvis Presley for my elementary school Roosevelt in Pomona CA, his mother knew mine and the PTA put on a show with him as a small element, but I recall him signing autographs, don't know what he signed.
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"...And now you know the rest of the story!" -Paul Harvey
You like? I enjoy the format. It does take a lot of time to develop the script though LOL
I always watched "The Monkees" on Saturday mornings while I was growing up. I remember Davy Jones singing Daydream Believer.
I caught the series when it first aired. It was a fascinating lesson in marketing, and I still remember Monkeemania. At one time, for a short time, that group could demand more for a concert venue than any other act in the biz.
Thanks for the cool backstory.
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Was lucky to finally see the Monkees in London in 2011 been a fan since I was 13 and stuck in hospital for 10 months it was the highlight of the week for us to watch their tv show
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Very well hosted, you have the gig old man.
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I am glad I came across you, and ,yes, I did Subscribe. Maybe you came up because I tune into the Professor of Rock Channel, and have been looking up early seventies songs this evening. Oops, it's 5:30 in the morning! I guess "time keeps on slipping slipping into the future".
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Hello, that was a good story. Thank you for the upload.
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Great story. Thanks, Man.
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John Stewart was best known for his hit GOLD, but he wrote many fine songs and had a great and unique voice too.
P.S. Also, I've been under the mistaken impression for decades that the song was written by Neil Diamond. Thank you for setting me straight!!
You’re welcome! He wrote 3 but not this one. Thanks for the view!
That's a common misconception that got a little grease on that fire when Davy Jones was asked to appear at a U2 concert date in the 1990s. They performed "Daydream Believer" together, but U2 guitarist Edge Evans credited Neil Diamond for composing the song when they were through performing it. It became a nice little pop fluff piece in the press that whole weekend.
@markjamesmeli2520 interesting! And what an unexpected collab...Davey and U2!
Neil Diamond wrote I'm A Believer. Both songs have the word "believer" in them, so maybe that's where the confusion comes from. Daydream Believer was OK, but I'm A Believer was much, much better.
Love your channel. So many songs that I remember. And you tell a really good story!!!
The Monkees !!!! Ahhh, yes. . .
I just can’t believe the song was Daydream Believer. You built that story soo well. :) - a simple song, but a really good one! And Davey didn’t want to do it??!!!! That poor song. I wonder how many other good songs have hit the dust bin?
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Fascinating.
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What a great voice you have!!
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After John Stewart died, I went to a "Kingston Trio" camp in AZ. We did a concert in his honor, and some of us sang the "funky."
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That was a fascinating story. I am a huge Kingston Trio fan, and have one of John Stewart's solo albums as well. My wife met one of the Monkees (I can't remember which one) at a party in the late 60s.
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You sir are an awesome presenter and gave wonderful material. Thanks. I'll lurk around and see some more.
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I love this kind of stuff. I remember reading about John Stewart when he released the song "Gold" back in 1980 (I think). So when you mentioned The Monkees, I had a pretty good feeling it was "Daydream Believer." Always liked The Monkees and John wrote some pretty big hits throughout his life. You mentioned the We 5 in this story, maybe you could find out some stuff about them, like where they're from. I won't mention it here in case you do a piece on them. Groups from their homeland weren't very common back in the 60's.
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John Stewart's brother Michael was actually in the group We Five who had the hit with You were on my Mind. Kingston Trio manager Frank Werber was also managing the We Five at the time. They more or less never had as big a hit as their first song again.
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Oddly enough, when We Five turned the song down---John Stewart's brother, Mike was a MEMBER of We Five----Go figure!!!!
Oh my gosh, I can remember the very first time I heard Daydream Believer! I was 12 years old, hanging out in our backyard and I was listening to my little metally sounding transistor radio, when the song came on for the very first time. I knew it was a new song from the Monkees and being the big fan I was, started to jump up and down with massive excitement. Wow, this was 56 years ago! Where has the time gone?
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Just wanted you to know how much I enjoy your videos, particularly your "Five Things You Didn't Know About..." series. Thank you for your dedication to factual information.
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The best part of this video, is that the song writer got his share.
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Great story! I always assumed it was a Boyce and Hart(sp) song. This is one of those timeless songs. You hear it 30 years later - good song! And it has that hook - you know it.
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Loved this. Adored Davey Jones as did all my friends.
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I loved this video. Thank you so much. ❣️🎶
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i used to love Melanie. my sister introduced me to her music and i had her vinyl lp
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Chip Douglas produced "Happy Together: for the Turtles, he was their bass player at the time as well...
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Was the original title Funky Together lol, jk. I love that song from the Turtles.
@@pommie5093 HA!
@@the_guitar_trooper lol
@@pommie5093 Ha! Frankly, they made the right call, IMHO. The line as originally written was
“ Now you know how FUNKY we can be”
Seriously?
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A good story, well told.
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I fast forwarded to the end as I got bored with the 5 minutes of history before the big reveal.
Awwww. That ain’t no fun. LOL
No way! That is one of my favorite songs ever!! I do agree that Now you know how happy I can be would work better than, I know how funky I can be? Yeah. Glad that they changed it and recorded it. I can't imagine anyone else singing it.
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Actually to me, thinking about it, "funky" does make more sense with the lyric idea of that verse. But I think it would stick out because it doesn't really "sing" as well in the musical style of the song. "Happy" is kind of bland and cliché as a lyric, but it fits into the sound more.
Good job and a great story!
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What a great presentation. I would have never have guessed. Thank you.
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I've been trying to remember a not well known song that was playing on the radio for a little while in Las Vegas in about 1966 or 1967 which had a lyric including a "milk factory?" I remember the time as being before I started watching Star Trek as a new show, and before the 6 Day War.
Wow. I don’t have any idea what that was.
You do have a great delivery of your program. You sort of sound like Paul Harvey the way you deliver the information . Thanks for this video .
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One of my all time favorite songs.
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Loved that song
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thanks for the info on one of my favorite songs! new watcher from hawk run, pa!
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Every time I hear "Daydream Believer", it brings back a lot of memories.
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Great story.
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a song from the soundtrack of my childhood , if not THE song.
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'Ole Audiophile to Theguitartrooper: I've heard a bunch of stories like this. The one that sticks to me was by the popular group The Doobie Brothers. Upon release of their fourth studio album, a single was selected & the 45 hit the market. Nothing... or what seemed like it. two more singles were then produced & released. Little response. About then, folks started stirring about the b side of the first single. So then the fourth single was re-released but the b side became the a side. Bingo! Huge hit! That song was 'Black Water'. One for all & all for one, good luck in your ventures, sir. Thanx
Nice to hear from you! Yeah. - WB was desperate to get a hit out of this group after the initial lackluster results. They’d try anything to get a revenue stream going from the Doobies, hence the re-release.
@@the_guitar_trooperThe big secret from that album was that Daughters Of The Sea was by far the best track from that album, it just takes a few listens.
@@davidlane1169 I’ll track it down!
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the no. 1 song of the 60's
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i like your stories. thats a great tune.👍🎼
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Anne Murray also took "Daydream Believer to #3 Country and #12 Hot 100 in 1979.
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OMG I love it. I love the buildup because my mouth was on the ground when you said the title. Thank you! You got yourself a subscriber.
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Excellent presentation of this story!
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i enjoy your show. thnaks for the lesssons
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One of my favorite songs of all times
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Oh Gosh! I got Goose-bumps when you said the name of the song: Daydream Believer!
Didn’t see it coming, eh?!
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