Why you shouldn't worry about OSRS dying
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- For the 11+ years of Old School Runescape's existence, people have been calling for the end of the game. Whatever controversial update there is in any given week, it's the most important update that marks the beginning of the end... until the next update.
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As a 30 year old parent of 3. I punish my kids to run laps on my account when they get in trouble
Banned for account sharing.
Rumor has it they r over 200mill xp and still running
This is either brilliant or how you discover you’re raising a psychopath.
That's diabolical
Asking as a fellow father of 3… how many laps they running and at what age did you start this punishment 🙄
If osrs does die, I call dibs on the loot key
i call dibs on the os osrs license
Bro, I TB'd split
Split I TB’d
china will melt that key before it hits the ground
I dont know, i just started this year. And i dont remember last time ive been so passionate about a game.
Love to see first time players! Welcome :)
I just came back after not playing since about 2009-2010 cant remember but i started over and holy shit i cant stop lol Elden ring DLC came out which i was so excited for and waited soooo long for i bought it and haven't even played it yet because there's to much stuff to be done in OSRS. It was one of the best decisions I've ever made trying it out again and I'm so glad to be back.
Im so happy to hear that runescape still attracts new players.
@@trippy4150 glad to hear you’re enjoying osrs! :) this is very relatable as there are so many games I got excited for then didn’t end up playing because I’d rather keep up the progression in OSRS 😅 I’m a big harry potter fan and have yet to play hogwarts legacy, and I bought zelda tears of the kingdom on release and have yet to play it LOL
@@mandrue73 Lmao right? i got my first 99 a few days ago and finally making GP it feels so good i bought my first bond with GP cause im making enough idk nothing else gives that feeling (still def gonna play ER DLC its just gonna have to wait a while prolly lmao)
I'm a slave to nostalgia. If OSRS disappeared I'd be pretty down. Probably for a long time. I'm a player who stops for months returns to grind for 2-3 months and then quits again.
Don't worry about that, private servers would live on, or offline ports. Just look at Ragnarok or Maplestory, similar games who went to shit. There's still private servers with thousand of players on those games who died a long time ago, osrs will never truly die
I've played games that died. OSRS avoids so many of those errors by polling updates and responding to player opinions.
Who's the new players to osrs?? I promise you this isn't the type of game kids like.
@@iguanaassassin9893why are you assuming that new players=kids? Lol
@@iguanaassassin9893 your just mad because you were perm muted lmaooooooo
They poll updates, but don't release the approved ones for years.
Part of the proud 6.8% 😎
Seriously though, if people like you, Settled, Framed, Soup, etc keep posting entertaining content, people in my demographic will come! I'm 20 & have never played before (started playing because of mctile!). Engaging content is the entry point for gen z and younger.
Ay that's awesome to hear! And what an honor to be lumped in with those guys
I "quit" osrs in 2018 when on my ironman, I felt a sense of personal accomplishment when my bank was 100mill worth and all stats were 70+.
I came back in 2023 due to a Falador massacre documentary video. It got my blood pumping again.
I made a new ironman, re learned the game and all of its new content.
I am sitting at 2066 total with a 650million bank and i don't plan on quitting anytime soon. The game now is so much funner than it was 6 years ago.
Just bought another year of membership.
How tf did you get 2066 total level in 1 year? I know it's technically possible, but holy shlt
I got 1600 total in one year :/ can anyone spare a bond?
even when im burnt on playing osrs, i still watch osrs content and follow the in game updates through said content
Even on a "break" I worry about the exp loss from said break.
When I retire im gonna go for getting all pets before dying.
I agree in general, but I have a couple things to note: If Jagex did go out of business randomly or make a random decision to shut down OSRS (like what happened with club penguin, when they tried to shift players to a new version of the game), it'd still be illegal to host a private server and Jagex (or whoever bought their IP rights during insolvency) would have the right to shut private servers down, which happened for club penguin rewritten. There are other private servers now, so that point is a little moot, but I thought it was worth mentioning, even if there's basically no chance of Runescape just randomly being shut down for no reason. The other thing I wanted to bring up is the fact that we already saw microtransactions come in and deeply damage a game that had a fervently anti-mtx population, RS2. One of the most popular points Runescape had over other MMOs and games at the time was the lack of microtransactions or paid content outside of the base subscription. Realistically, we would hope that investors are smart enough to know the history of the game and not destroy it for perceived short term gains, but it's a _really_ common business practice to just buy the rights to a company, do as much as you can to cut costs and squeeze out additional revenue, and then cash out after you've destroyed the company. Investors don't care about the product at all, and if they _think_ they could make more money doing something, they'll do it.
Rather than dying, I'm much more concerned that the game will slowly become a game I don't want to play anymore
EOC did that for me. I tried to be optimistic for the changes and gave it a chance but it was too different
This is why Mod Ash and some other OGs are important to keep on. The new developers have no idea what they're doing in terms of decision making. Thank goodness we have a voting system.
I've honestly reached that point. I went from having a lot of goals and playing daily for 8+ hours to barely playing 2 hours a day. Somedays, I don't even log in at all...and I've been playing ever since 2007. The only thing that I still enjoy doing are Quests; just thinking of grinding makes me feel a sort of revulsion lately
ill play with 100,000 bots til the day i die
The thing that makes OSRS special is since inception Jagex made it rule #1.0-A) that they have to poll the community and have to abide by the results. I have played so many amazing games and franchises that have been destroyed by devs thinking they know better than the players. Just look at RS3. Our JMods are in a position where even if they're positive their ideas are perfect they still need to convince us. Thus even if the idea is bad they still need to pass an understanding of the community check when they convince us to vote for it. This prevents the disconnect most other major devs have of just jamming their ideas into the community then being shocked at the response.
This is why the only way OSRS ends is if polling ends. The game's very nature of being incredibly slow and grindy will naturally weed out fickle and short-term oriented people over a long development polling cycle. This is also why it is funny that players complain that everything is passing every poll. That's a good thing that means the devs understand the community enough not to waste our time with bad questions.
My only concerns recently have been the dev reaction to the wilderness and fudging polls like the new skill. Other than that we good.
They didn't abide by that rule when sailing got pushed through. They said if two of the 3 skills were close they would re poll them 1v1. That never happened. Sailing won by a very small margin and it was never re polled 1v1
They should sell it as a single player game. If it ever does die with means around Shield of Arrav and Heroes quest.
How would they monetize it lol? Who would pay for singleplayer runescape lmao
A lot of people, myself included
@@childpeanut5095 If it isn't some ridiculous price, I'd wager just about every veteran would pay for it. Though, tbh, it will get boring very quickly once you get to high enough levels and there's nobody around and 0 updates.
@@childpeanut5095 "if it ever dies" one last sale. Also have you heard of ironman
I've been burnt out from runescape but I've never not thought about it. Even when I stopped playing for 2 years. Rs videos were still a daily intake 😂
Im was not a casual player. And despite not playing for over a year now. Comming back from a 2 year hiatus.
And still deeply care for osrs, still watch series about osrs, and has been the game that kept me.comming back for nearly 2 decades now.
To be fair I stopped cause I was spending to much time on it and it was a drag on my life.
So I didnt lose interest per se.
But still. I would care id OSRS were to die even if I am not playing anymore.
I think the most realistic way osrs dies is if jagex gets bought out, investors take over decision-making, and the players stop getting to decide updates so things like microtransactions inevitably squeeze in again. Will it happen? Probably not. But if it did, I could see players leaving in masses to some new private server
Realisticlly I can't see osrs ever getting shut down. There is definitely an avenue for the slow decline mind you: power creep is absolutely unavoidable. The "average" (as in the sum total of all players) gets better and better with each passing day. You already need 70 str just to show up on the highscores.
Everyone is chasing the end game, and we always want new bells and whistles. Everything is in flux, and everything does eventually die. I'm no prophet, but it seems to me that some day we'll eventually choke on all the new content.
I keep saying that OSRS needs to put more focus on midgame play rather than mostly endgame play. Vast majority of accounts do not make it to endgame. Might as well improve the point that almost everybody gets to and stops on.
OSRS is definitely special in a way other games are not. i've played so many other games over the years that were genuinely fun that i don't care or think about anymore - runescape and pokemon being the only exceptions. I feel like if the game integrity was truly in jeopardy, everyone that has ever been touched by the game would come out of the woodwork and speak up. Even people that haven't played in years. look at the amount of people playing at any given day compared that initial ~450k people that voted for osrs back at the beginning; i think there are far more people that care about the game than we realize, that number could even be close to a million now - who knows! i'm certain we will be able to enjoy the game for a very long time
Pokémon? Huh?
Having been sucked back in by content creators (specifically, Settled's Tileman series), GG season 4, etc. I can confidently say that this game isn't dying out anytime soon because of the community that has been built around the game.
OSRS creators really have pushed the game to extremes that most never considered at first, and both the community and Jagex have responded accordingly. Ironman, Leagues, Deadman. Some of the craziest video content and most enjoyable playing content and it all stems from this positive feedback between Devs, Creators, and Players.
I'm so excited to be one of the returning players pushing that graph up
If osrs has 500k players, I am one of them.
If osrs has 1k players, I am one of them.
If osrs has only 1 player, that player is me.
If osrs has no players, that means I am no longer on this earth.
I agree that scenario 2 is the more likely option, but not necessarily based on specific game updates, but if the devs stop listening to the community. You can see it every time they make unpolled changes or mess with the polling system. Some people hate polls, but it truly is the core of old school and its success.
Imo the largest chance of osrs dying would be some systematic collapse of jagex as a company. Where they somehow can't financially operate and are forced to shutdown. This is still veeery unlikely but probably the most likely one
jagex is also based in the uk and our country is failling rn so it deffo is possible our economy is getting shit on
I believe the fix would be that Jagex goes bankrupt, sells the IP to consolidate debts. And the players pray the IP is sold to anyone but Tencent or Embracer.
Honestly anywhere else would be fine.
@@julianrogers8608 jagex is still (currently) owned by a capital investment company based in Luxembourg. So a likely "death" would be that they're sold off company that completely guts their resources in order to turn a profit. But that is still very unlikely because most investment companies are very hands off.
it would probably be relatively easy to just downsize massively and stop regular updates and just run the game and still receive some income before going bankrupt completely
@@20ZZ20 exactly but that would still be a death
Did a tier list of our favorite games of all time time with my mates. Games such as Skyrim, Minecraft, CS:GO came up close to the top. However, OSRS was no. 1. There is no game like it, and the experience and memories I have built from it stand out so much more than any other experience I have had in my life.
I’ve been a very casual on and off player since OSRS first started and have been watching Mudkip since the hcim series. Every video mudkip posts I watch and like. Mudkip has been the reason my itch to return to the game comes back every few months. Thanks for the great content Kip!
osrs wont die unless people stop getting masori pieces
Damn idek what this means and I used to know everything about it
Game won't die unless they stop updating. Veteran players are NOT going to leave unless there's nothing to do. And that's assuming they don't just make series 39 of their tile-locked, HCIM, complete the collection log series.
I think the consistent and steady growth of new players comes from you guys. Look at settled’s series. They reached far beyond the OSRS community, J1mmy’s videos make other communities look into ours because he’s comparing ours to theirs so well. Just to name a few of the super popular ones. It’s a constant reason I still play. Look at the wonderful and beautiful content you all create from this game and I’m happy to be apart of it
Autumn Elegy is cool, man. He's really chilled out too since 6 years ago..
That guy is legendary. Went from your typical gaming nerd, to absolute chad irl.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 thats what I'm saying. Feels like the shade thrown at him in this video is uncalled for and unecessarily passive-aggresive, especially since AE isn't how he used to be & has a much more mature attitude towards the state of the game.
Because we never quit, only take breaks!
I think you're spot on with the aging population. That's really the only way this game can die (assuming no fumble by jagex). I'm also curious if having an aging player base will eventually force jagex's hand into making some "ezscape" stuff since old people can't click as fast or as often as younger people. Maybe those changes will bring in younger people since it won't be such a grind then.
Hey Kip! Love the content and respect your Runescape opinion a lot, but your take at 9:00 that there is data to point them *clearly* to the idea that micro transactions would be a net negative for the game is just wrong. I've worked at enough jobs in my life that went under only because of bad leadership to know that isn't true. Bad leadership can run any business into the ground very quickly. Obviously this isn't the goal, but short term profits over long term success is often rewarding for individuals in leadership. We've had several lead devs come and go in the years I was paying attention and it seems to me they keep getting tired of being the punching bag between leadership wanting to make more money and the devs trying to make people happy.
One day senior leadership could break and allow for micro transactions to leak further into oldschool or some other dumb scheme like a battle pass. But I do agree that the Runescape player base would find a home quite quickly either on a new private server, or Brighter Shores or what have you.
People really just want their escape from capitalism to not be beholden to and possibly shutdown by it lol
One of the reasons I made an ironman when I came back to play since quitting at EoC was because I figured if I was the only person online it wouldn't matter. I even play with identity hider on 24/7
As soon as my kids are old enough to play, they’re going to learn how to play just as I did and I suspect that it’s going to be the latter where it’s the 30+ player base’s kids that revive the game and become the 12-17 group in the coming years.
there will always be a demand for at least rsps unless another mmorpg comes out that replicates the grindy feeling of osrs. i've tried so many new ones in a desperate attempt to find some new mmorpg to play but none of them scratch that itch
Maybe it wasn't about the XP we have but the XP we got along the way
Wow, good point about the player base having a form of adhd/autism spectrum. It makes so much sense why this is the only game that has stuck with me for so long as an adhd kid/now adult. Always something to do in game lol
I felt called out 😂😂
Also funny this is like the 1 place where you can say the majority of the fan base is ADHD or autistic and we're just like "yea, fair" 🤣🤣
The game has constant dopamine hits, that get further and further as the game goes on. Which is why so many people find joy in making new accounts and starting fresh. It is an endless cycle until one is FORCED to stop playing for whatever reason.
"90% of the player base has ADHD or Autism". As someone with both, yeah I have felt this way for a long time.
As well to add on to the idea of the game potentially being aged out. I'm 26, I started playing OSRS avidly in 2015. For me there wasn't much nostalgia because I had only ever touched runescape for a couple hours when our class all made accounts in the computer lab. For me runescape was this vague foggy thing almost dream like.
But when I started killing chickens and getting into the loop of gathering meat, cutting a tree, and cooking it, I was hooked. The fact that everything fed stats that could level so high, like that was the thing that kept me playing other games, the number go up.
So for me there really isn't much nostalgia. It just was like a moth to a flame. Here I am 10,000+ hours later. Currently have 21,000 kills of a boss and am close to overtaking rank 1. I also have started grinding easy clues, currently have a pile of 50 easy clues in the ham hideout that I've been juggling.
For me as long as I can make the number go up I will be happy. To me it is actually disheartening the fact that skills cap at 200m. I love things being tracked and I love to see how high I can get it. The accumulation of effort is a fixation of mine.
I love repetition and getting better and more efficient at things. Its why I like speedrunning and speedsolving rubiks cubes. I love treating a run of a game like one plays a song. Each thing having it's timing, the memory of past runs like a tape running in my head.
I don't get fulfillment from playing new game after new game. I get fulfilment from being really good at the games I play.
I do not forsee RuneScape dying because I feel that it consistently attract more and more people who's brains work like ours and I feel that those currently playing will most likely be playing in some capacity for life.
I feel like you are reading my mind, I ship out to basic training soon and I'm worried the game wont be here when I want to get back into the game 7-8 months down the line once im done with AIT and im at my duty station. I do actually plan to take about a 1-3 year break possibly even 5 depends how I feel
Good luck! I think the game will still be around and thriving even in 5+ years. You may have a lot to catch up on though
7:38 It's just one big psychiatric hospital.
“Maybe if I get this OTHER boss pet, it’ll fill the void ✊🤕”
On the flip side, the older I get, the more I get promoted at work, the more money I make, and the more accounts with membership I have lol. That's another thing about the numbers - a lot of us have a main, an ironman, a GIM, a specialty account, a PKer, etc and all of mine have membership because I can actually afford it now instead of begging my mom for a money order for one account to mail to Jagex lmao
Said it best “I just want to play the game and have fun with my friends.” 💯💯
I honestly don’t think this game will ever truly die. Even if it drops hard in player base, people will still play. A lot of players have played for well over a decade and still aren’t bored. Worst case I feel like they’d just cut the staff and do way less updates
I'm fully ready for the game to sell its soul at any point. I've had games before where I'd have invested a larger portion of my life to it and then move on once it got shit. So if it does happen I'll just see the silver lining that I have more time that I can use to start over in a new thing, like Guild Wars 2 or speedrunning. But right now, I'm happy with the way it is.
The only dark thoughts I've had about the game "dying" is if it grows so successful at attracting new players, that the playerbase average morphs into something that's more tolerating towards MTX bullshit. But if Baldur's Gate 3 has taught me anything, it's that a game just being a good game without MTX bullshit actually means something to a lot more people than I give credit for. So if OSRS attracts more players, it's most likely because those players had their passion game ruined by MTX.
This game pretty much only attracts adults, which almost guarantees that MTX will NOT be voted for in any polls (if the dev team even dares to suggest it)
My friend that kinda introduced me to it back in the days plays once every 6 years and comes back for like 6 months, I quit every 6 months or so for a few weeks. We all are different lol
I personally think that jagex starting to sponsor content creators is a pretty good sign. yes, there are potential issues of favoritism and such, but in general it's good to see that they understand how much their game is community driven, so they invest in members of the community instead of third party advertisement. it's kind of in line with them listening to the community a hell of a lot more than most other game devs. yes, sometimes they ignore us and make weird choices but compare it to any other large scale game dev and you can't honestly deny that the oldschool team is listening to the community a whole lot more than most.
and about the sponsoring content creator stuff: plenty of other companies would realise that content creators do drive up interest in the game but they figure why pay them if they do it for free (or for other sponsors) and decide not to invest in them. and I think that is a mistake.
Fun fact when toontown shut down a few years later fans made toontown rewritten which is like an exact copy of the original so very similar vibes to if rs shut down. Edit to add I hadn't watched further in the video. As soon as I saw toontown mentioned the first time I made this comment. 😂
New player here. I have never played this game before around April, and it has been a very fun experience so far
In December 2022 Jagex reduced the requirement to pass a poll from 75% to 70% solely so they could force a new skill to eventually pass. The players had already voted previously in a February 2017 poll against reducing the poll requirement (57% yes to 43% no) from 75% to 70%. It’s always in Jagex’s nature to revert back to going against what the players want and just force their preferred content in.
Been playing rs since classic on and off and one thing Rs has is incredible content creators. In my opinion osrs has the best content creators out of any game. Also people just automatically hate everything new and until they get used to it=End of osrs, game dying etc. Goes for most games:P
I could see the older peoples kids having a desire to play the game, watching your sibling play something usually makes you want to play it(if you are younger one) personally how i got into the game, my dad played, my older brother played, so i wanted to as well
I started my account about 6 years ago and have played pretty casually. I ignore all the things that dont interest me - I only have 9 hunter for example
I only have 1 99, which is crafting. The whole idea when i started was that i was gonna be like a "guild crafter" and make equipment for my clan members etc like in FFXIV, and realized pretty quickly that the crafting in OSRS is about as deep as a puddle of piss.
My next closest is 95 in melee combats, 91 slayer. Its a super slow burn of a game but I think consistency is the key. I know for example if I logged in for one slayer task per day I'd probably have 99 by the end of the year
respectfully to ur point about the game dying slowly i can promise u even if i stopped playing i would be doing whatever i can to fix it till its dead and i would happily switch to a private server is jagex decides they dont want to provide me my osrs. ive put just short of 80k hours into runescape over all my accounts i aint leaving unless my body dies.
OSRS has the literal best team in gaming behind it. They actually care about the playerbase and there are no microtransactions. incredible
I wonder how the new leagues will be (obviously if there is a new leagues), I'm working on an UIM account to max cape right now, so it's going to be a massively long grind, but if and when leagues drops that'll be a nice change for a bit, probably between December - February.
I do hope that the game doesn't die out before i can max my UIM XD
Also when Andrew Gower drops his new game "Brighter shores" this year, i think alot of people will leave OSRS maybe not permanently but atleast temporarily to see the game that the maker of Runescape is making after leaving Runescape XD i know i'll be going on to his new game atleast to try it out and see if i like it more than OSRS, but i will still max my UIM eventually :P
What if I worry about the channel dying?!
now this is most def a problem that could happen and same mudkip is the best utuber and in second place is C engi.
That's actually what I can see happening first. All the content creators either get tired of making content, or they have families and just retire. Will be a sad day to see some of these guys upload their last video. (Looking at you Slayermusiq1, please don't quit 😢)
I could swear Mudkip posted all these thoughts in a very similar video last year.. but I just like to hear him talk ❤
You know what I'm tired of? People on the subreddit calling everything EoC, or genuinely afraid the devs are going to add EoC to OSRS. Like I get there's a trauma there, but dude, you're insane to think that the dev team we have today would even WANT to do that.
Unlike most games, OSRS feels genuinely rewarding when you accomplish something. Not only that, but if you are a completionist like me, this game is essentially neverending. Also, because of how easy it is to make new accounts, people will just start over when they get bored. This is not even including the MASSIVE pull that the games RNG loot tables bring. As that is a whole discussion on its own.
I think bonds as microtransactions keeps Jagex honest. They can't just get money for in-game items, they can only sell subscription time. Someone has to actually want to play the game to consume the bond.
the aging playerbase is its biggest problem honestly. you need new younger players to be this game’s lifeblood to keep this game going in the long run
I've also never been burnt from osrs... I get burnt on certain grinds or certain content, but there is so much to do that I have never actually stopped playing. Honestly, if the official jagex servers went down and there weren't big private servers, I would even play on my own private server by myself if I could figure out how to set that up. True ironman status at that point...
7:35 bro hit the nail on the head with me 😂 never been tested but I’m 99% positive I’m on the spectrum somewhere.
I wish there was a 2011 version of the game, i miss ancient curses, summoning and dungeons, had the most fun in them times
I’ve played since 2010 and there truly is nothing else out there that can compete. What a GOATED game.
I think the way you can afk in OSRS helps to keep it alive. I mean I'm currently doloing Castle Wars for the Clog...putting in two minutes of play time in, then ignoring the game for 15 minutes while I watch Netflix. I can't think of any other game where I could do that, and if i had to focus on the game constantly I know I wouldn't have time to play. It's like having my proverbial cake and eating it.
I whole heartedly believe that the life of OSRS is tied to RS3. If that game shuts down before OS, then there will be nothing holding back the MTX. Eventually upper management will win and push it to this game. The second they do that, it’s over.
The line starting at 14:19 is too funny. I took it as, "Why are you complaining? You're dead bro" lol
The slow death (the most likely outcome) isn't something to worry about. If the game greatly declines, WE necessarily are the ones who stopped playing, and we would thus care less than we would now if it were to die. That's my cope anyway :D
I'm burnt out right now atm, and struggling to make myself play ever since I maxed my account. I've tried making new mains and Ironmen accounts even, but I just can't seem to stick to any of them (one has 1900 total level; the rest have less than 1000).
I'm honestly considering going back to Steam or Toontown Rewritten lately due to the burn out.
Edit: I have ADHD
Im stuck because I love OSRS but hate gear switching but i hate all the micro transactions and little player count of RS3 but like Slayer and Bossing because of the fact that you dont need to do gear switching. When i look up if i can enjoy OSRS without doing content with gear switching i never get an answer.
Your age chart at the end is what J1mmy needs to supplement his graph with in his "nostalgia doesn't matter" argument. If nostalgia didn't matter, the age chart would be **MUCH MORE** even. But it's not. We're all 30 year olds who want to play the game style(s) we grew up enjoying.
Soft disagree?
Why do 30 year olds who've never played or only seen it in videos sign up? Because their fellow 30 year old friends got them to play.
Not many people in the 25-35 age bracket have young friends, and if a huge part of getting new players is word of mouth then we aren't really interacting much with the younger generation.
Plus not a lot of 30 year olds have teenaged kids, within 10 years I bet we'll see a spike of young adults playing who watched their parents play growing up.
I'd wager that because the playerbase is nearly all adults, the game actually has a stronger chance of not dying. It's easy for kids to play something and move on to the next thing. But most adults are set in their ways, and generally want more of the same, if it's a good thing. As long as OSRS team doesn't introduce some bs like EOC, the playerbase will only die when everyone in it dies (or has to quit due to life circumstances).
@@DeimosDread I can counter that personally - the vast majority of my clan mates, AND myself who account for your initial description started the game on our own, because the **idea** of the game peaked our interest.
I would argue the reason our interest got peaked, and not the 20 year old who saw the same game, is because we connected with aspects of it due to our childhood experiences in the 90's/early '00s.
@@EwokPanda who introduced the *idea* to you? Maybe friend is too strict of a term, how about peer? Did you hear about it from a younger person? Or someone much closer to your age? Was it in your algorithmically driven feeds? Idk about you but when ya visit a homepage without signing in 99% of the time runescape isn't anywhere near the top. Shit's reccomended to you because your peers are also engaging with it.
Again idk man was it nostalgia that made you wanna try it? Or your sensabilities & taste? Is it nostalgia if you didn't experience it yourself, or is it another vague non-term?
You can be nostalgic for mid 2000's, but you shouldn't conflate enjoying something on it's own merits & enjoying it because it reminds you of being a kid. Maybe you TRIED it because of 'nostalgia'(again is it nostalgia if you didn't experience it?), but that's not what gets a subscription.
Plus how many kids can afford to AND are WILLING to pay a monthly subscription? Let's not discount that part of it, even if their interested some just can't ;)
@@DeimosDread You're right - I'm misusing nostalgia. To be fair, I learned about this game from its mobile release while on my honeymoon wanting a game to play while my wife was at the spa. So no peers - just a release banner at the top of the app store, and an "oh yeah, I remember seeing this game in 2003."
"I have a theory that 90% of the player base has ADHD, autism, or both"
Well he's got me pegged.
Me and my friends who signed the petition never played rs3. We had all quit in the period from when guthix sleeps was released up to eoc. Think quite a few people never played rs3 like us.
Okay well I weirdly have a lot to say on this topic so brace yourself for a wall of text.
OSRS isn't going to die and I'm not here to talk about that I just want to share what I appreciate about the game and it's not something you mentioned. I'm a much more casual player though it's kind of weird to say someone with about 4k hours in the game is casual creeping closer to maxing my ironman but compared to most people that's a slow pace since I started it in 2018(OSRS anyway I played RS2 from 2004-2007) with the release of ironman and am about 2/3rds the way to maxing now.
I've played every major MMO for hundreds and sometimes thousands of hours. I enjoy social games and games I can put a lot of time and dedication into it's just something I enjoy so OSRS is a good match for that. what's unique to OSRS more than other MMOs is that there's a very healthy creator economy on youtube making a diverse number of videos about it and seeing a lot of success. While there are content creators in WoW and FF14 and whatever there's several successful Podcasts and whatnot hell asmondgold is a massive force on youtube and twitch and he's mostly a WoW guy what's different about OSRS is that there are many micro channels seeing middling levels of success there's a smooth gradient from smaller content creators to our largest and they range from facts and tutorials to progress series to random gameshows. Compared to the size of the game the content creation side is huge OSRS is much smaller than FF14 and WoW but the force on youtube actually baring a couple outliers is fairly comparable and that endears us to the game a lot. my OSRS CC originally was from Surg1n who used to be a youtuber and while it's a more general PVM cc now it started as that and many people are the same.
Also there's a wild steadiness to OSRS that I really appreciate. there's no changing level cap everything feels permanent. The biggest reason I stopped playing FF14 is that my class got reworked in a direction I didn't enjoy where if I like a scuffed walk under method in OSRS I can still do it later even if new methods out pace it. It won't go away with any patch and my character won't delevel if I leave for a year like has happened many times in WoW and FF14 I'll just not have done the best method to level but that doesn't matter because I already leveled. There's new content to grind but old content doesn't really go away even though a few places are actually gone like the massive slayer cave it just doesn't matter as much there's slow gradual changes rather that violent upheavals every few years that sometimes don't mesh with what I enjoy. WoW has re opened classic servers that emulate older eras but those aren't the main game and feel separate I want to use my main character to do the old content again because that symbolism matters to me. I do take breaks periodically though I basically always do minor chores even on breaks the longest break I took from OSRS since 2018 was just over a year and I want to come back to what I enjoyed I don't want to come back and relearn something new every time I'm getting older and my willingness to fuss with something new every time is becoming less and less I like familiarity and if I'm keeping up with a game they don't change that much but leaving and coming back it's pretty wildly different a lot of the time.
Even if the game never got a single update since 2013, it would still be around I think
almost 23 years in and fixing to get 3.5 levels away from my first 99 woohoo! I think one of the things that keep osrs going is it seems to impossible to have done everything in the game if you have any sort of life at all lol.
Way more worried about rs3 dying than osrs. I have ~700 days of playtime on there and I can confidently say the rate at which they drown their players in MTX has grown exponentially, while the quality in their normal updates has gone down drastically. The game’s so much more fast paced in terms of leveling your account that they really need to be pumping out more and more endgame bosses, and/or increase level caps on all skills to give people more to do. Instead, all they’ve done in the past year is release a really shit boss. I’ve been playing OSRS for 9 months now and I couldn’t be happier compared to what I’d be doing on the other game.
the game outliving is players is CRAZY to think about but if any game could do that osrs could
Streaming absolutely WAS a huge thing back then
runescape classic is still on private server with a loyal group of people
runescape will never die until we are dead
aslo shows how osrs is not just here for nostalgia
2 perfect points
1: there were popular private servers all along
2: runescape classic just had a nostalgia bump that lasted for 1-2 weeks and everyone went back to osrs
I just recently saw a bunch of kids playing OSRS on phones while waiting for a bus. Nothing to worry about I think.
We got WildMudkip OSRS Powerpoint before Sailing.
man, 2006scape bro. played that so much
I'm 37 and quite playing about 3 or 4 years ago. I love runescape, and love the idea of playing again. But, I don't have time to learn new content, when I only get to play an hour or 2 a day. It's not feasible to learn when it might take 20 hours to learn. I also kept play rs3 because I didn't want to start over on old school
I wish the content was dumbed down a bit so I could pick it up in hours. I still have never killed nex and I've played on and off since I was in high school
And yes I still watch runescape content from time to time and try to get into different people steams so I van give them my prime member on the streaming sight.
I legit think the global lockdown and subsequent work from home model has helped osrs out a lot, especially given the age range of people who play it. The 30 year olds today spend less time AT work and have more time to play the games they normally wouldnt have time for.
Posted this on J1mmy's Nostolgia video, just need to correlate the player graphs with the updates to find the truth:
OSRS overtook RS3 2 weeks after the Grand Exchange was implemented (February 26, 2015). I think this feature alone put the game into a state where people were willing to stay for the long term. Everything else has been a cherry on top.
For the next 4 years, the game was stable at a healthy 30-40k online players. The next significant influx of players wasn't until the Bounty Hunter rework & Twisted Leagues (November, 2019). The next significant influx of players was Covid-19 lockdowns (March, 2020).
u misunderstand. they play AT work afking stuff lmfao
Yea no. The 30 year olds are all AFK'ing at work, lmao. Mobile was the true savior of this game.
i’m 17 years old with 1500 hrs on my account where’s my 0.001% for player count 13:47
This is so awkward for me cause I’m burnt on OSRS so i been maxing out a toon in toontown rewritten lmao! It’s actually a good mmo, makes me feel like a kid again.
OSRS is just like my other "main" game Path of Exile, both have been going for 10+ years and are bigger than ever. I doubt the game will die within the next 10 years if gagex doesnt fuck it up that is.
to be fair 70% of the games funds come from bots anyway so if that keeps up so will the funds heck anytime i play osrs it's 90% bots i see
I will recreate old school runescape entirely out of lego bricks if the community can help me achieve 1k subscribers 😀 right at 299, 1 more till 300!
It seems like newer kids in their teens aren't playing OSRS due to the nature of TikTok and short form content. You had to play RS in the early 2000s to continue playing today. Wonder if Jagex are scared of this?!
4:52 forestry after sailing
If osrs perma shut down, id end my suffering permanently
I think OSRS will get a hype in near future
Possibly, the closest thing we saw was when Mobile dropped and all the newcomers came flooding in
wow that 12:01 clip 😄 great vid
edit: nvm i think you referred to my demographic as "grandparent" age, mudkip ruined osrs
Let's get you back to your computer games, old man, and you can watch videos that remind you of the good days czcams.com/video/z2hpJllaF-g/video.html
shoutout to the .6% of 65+ Gamers. I hope to join your ranks one day!
if osrs just vanished... i am just going to scream "I'M FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Perhaps reason OSRS hasn't died is because it offers so much to F2P, and otherwise developers listen to players through polls.
Oh yeah, and Autumn Elegy... isn't he burned out in a sense of playing OSRS? I remember him being very active doing 99s and making simple guides for different skills. Honestly taking one's opinion can be taken a grain of salt, since OSRS as I've seen it has really kept its standards high and it shows.